{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Build It Forward","title":"Legends Learn From Legends with Steve Baczek and Kohta Ueno","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/d623503e\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":3004,"description":"Summer Camp started because Joe Lstiburek wanted his young staff to learn from the mentors who taught him. In the early years, that meant three days of Gus Handegord at the front of a lecture hall, with a crowd of about 150 people trying to keep up with the equations.\nIn this conversation on Build It Forward, recorded in the Building Science Corporation Test Hut at Summer Camp 2026, Nick Falkoff sits down with two of BSC's earliest employees. Steve Baczek, an architect, joined in 1996 and calls himself the first employee. Kohta Ueno joined in 1998 after seeing Joe on an episode of NOVA, and today handles BSC's day-to-day consulting with Peter Baker.\nThey share stories from the early years: a production builder asking which ventilation system to use in the 3,000 houses he's building next year, flow hoods made from grocery store cardboard boxes, a garden hose proving that brick leaks, and Kohta's three red flags for building failures. They also get into how Joe made sure his staff understood the problem before leaving a job site, what Betsy Pettit built behind the scenes, and why so much of BSC's research is free on buildingscience.com.\nWatch Can Buildings Make You Sick?, the NOVA episode that led Kohta to Building Science Corporation:\nhttps://archive.org/details/CanBuildingsMakeYouSick?\nThank you to Betsy Pettit for graciously hosting us.\nConnect with Steve Baczek:\nhttps://stevenbaczekarchitect.com | IG: @stevenbaczekarchitect\nConnect with Kohta Ueno and Building Science Corporation:\nhttps://buildingscience.com | LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kohta-ueno-472a4\nThank you to our production partner Benjamin Obdyke. Build Better™ with samples of their roof and wall products:\nhttps://benjaminobdyke.com/get-a-sample-build-forward-podcast\nWork with Auburndale Builders on your high-performance build:\nvision@auburndalebuilders.com\n01:06 How Summer Camp started\n06:51 Theory meets builders who need real answers\n13:09 Gus Handegord and the best wall to build\n15:40 How...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/-Ao_bwqJOd8XP1Oqx5_ardqmHaaRKP_qhVtz4noqcLM/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9iZjE0/MzBkN2UyMTQwMzc0/M2NmZTY4NGRkZDQw/ZDUyZi5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}