{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Terminal Value","title":"Email Security Is AI vs. AI | Cy Khormaee, Aegis AI","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":2665,"description":"In this episode of Terminal Value, I'm joined by Cy Khormaee, founder and CEO of Aegis AI, an AI-native email security company that recently raised a $36 million Series A led by Battery Ventures, to discuss why email security is becoming an AI-versus-AI problem, how personalized threats are bypassing legacy rules, and what changes when AI begins handling the intelligence layer of cybersecurity.\nWe cover how email security evolved from reputation-based appliances to machine learning and rules, why LLM-based reasoning can investigate each message in context, how Aegis uses specialized multi-agent models instead of frontier APIs, why proprietary email data creates a compounding advantage, how automated incident response can shrink exposure from hours to milliseconds, what security buyers need to trust autonomous systems, why AI-native architecture can challenge incumbents, how the category could expand from protecting the corporate inbox to protecting the person, and why Cy hires for slope in an uncertain future.\n0:00 Hook: Why email security is becoming AI versus AI\n0:40 Intro to Cy Khormaee and Aegis AI\n1:45 How email security evolved from reputation and rules to AI\n4:55 How AI is making phishing attacks more personalized and harder to detect\n9:35 How Aegis uses multi-agent reasoning to stop email threats\n12:50 Why rule-based security breaks as threats change faster\n15:45 How proprietary email data creates a compounding AI advantage\n18:00 How automated response changes accountability and earns trust\n25:10 Why Aegis builds specialized models instead of relying on frontier models\n31:45 How AI-native architecture can overcome incumbent data advantages\n39:25 From securing email to protecting the person\n41:15 Why Cy hires for slope in an uncertain AI future\n42:50 Closing takeaways","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/F63affn3RYjAl7Jyw4EzUdUzrARkOc4Y6ceodi_6QEY/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS81ZTAx/MDY0NzRlNzI1MDFl/ZTQ0MzA4OGUyYTUx/YWI2ZS5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}