{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"The OPTIM Update","title":"Labor as a Cloud Service: One Operator, 100 Machines | Christoffer Jørgenvåg, HIVE","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":1712,"description":"Christoffer Jørgenvåg wanted to sell a brain to the machine makers. Nobody bought it, so he spent twelve years building the machines instead: hundreds of cranes and lifting systems at Red Rock, which he started at 23 and sold to Ocean Infinity in 2021. What he took from all that steel is that the machines are already perfected. The innovation is in who operates them.\nHive builds what it calls a silicon brain for industrial machines: a sensor kit (radar, lidar, GPS, cameras, compute and comms) installed in a day or two on the wheel loaders, excavators and forklifts a company already owns. The operator moves from the cab to a control room, and Hive sells the productive hours, not the kit. Christoffer's argument is that this is not machine automation. It is labor delivered as a cloud service, the way AWS packaged servers, and the ratio that makes the economics work is one operator supervising 100 machines by 2029, with one to ten next year.\nWe cover why Red Rock had to build machines when no OEM would buy its control system, what a wheel loader shift costs an operator's body and a plant's output, what goes on the machine and who sits at the back end when the model can't perform, what happens when the 5G link drops with the operator 90 kilometers away, why the retrofit beats a new machine, how Hive sees Bedrock and TerraFirma, the path from $20 to $1 per machine hour, whether the OEMs are channel, competitor or partner, why London came before Austin, the pitch to AI engineers, and his hot takes on humanoids, construction sites without people, and the 25% of machine hours that will be supervised remotely in five years.\nChapters:\n00:00 Intro\n00:51 Why \"Hive\", and \"Built for the moon, proven on Earth\"\n02:05 Red Rock: a brain nobody would buy, so he built the machines\n04:55 Starting over in 2022: scalable labor, not automation projects\n07:07 What a wheel loader does, and what an empty seat costs a plant\n09:04 What goes on the machine, and the operator at the back end...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/MD1uw3xsUV8NIC9WNTbAWnAxAqctNuVEgSaMzKwMDRQ/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9jYTFk/YTA0N2ZmOThmMmZl/ZGVjMjA3NWMwZDUw/YmRlMS5qcGVn.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}