{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Sticky Note Conversations","title":"Leo Murrieta - \"Ordinary People\"","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":5097,"description":"Host Erika Washington sits down with Leo Murrieta — former Executive Director of Make the Road Nevada and proud \"recovering executive director\" — to talk about what real organizing looks like, the price of citizenship, and why staying moderate is a losing game.\nLeo shares his journey from arriving in the U.S. as a week-old baby to navigating notario fraud, discovering he'd been a citizen for a decade without knowing it, and leading one of Nevada's largest Latino power-building organizations for nearly nine years. He also opens up about the night of the Route 91 massacre — and what it taught him about who gets left behind.\nFrom grassroots base-building to the 2028 presidential primary, Leo and Erika get into what's broken in progressive politics, who the real leaders are (hint: they're not in the title), and what the American dream means for a queer immigrant who's spent his career fighting for others.","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/UK61Fbw1FkXECaQSnnti0WTzPuR-_QX4UzfQVqnrNXw/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9kNDZm/NWQ3NTFlZDAyMTNi/YjM0YTQwOTc2ZTI2/ZjM2Ny5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}