{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"The Web Privacy Podcast","title":"Why Privacy Lawyers Are Becoming AI Lawyers: Mark Sanders at Tekion","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/d8ef3655\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":1880,"description":"Summary\nWhat happens to privacy lawyers when AI takes over the spotlight? In this episode of The Web Privacy Podcast, host Ethan Prete sits down with Mark Sanders, Sr Product AI & Data Privacy Counsel at Tekion, an AI native platform for car dealerships, and a 30 year veteran of in-house roles at Adobe, eBay, and Airbnb. Mark explains why the lawyers who mastered America's fragmented privacy patchwork are the best prepared to navigate AI regulation, what it looks like to work as embedded product counsel reviewing Figmas and data flows alongside engineers, and the three lens framework he uses to review every consumer facing AI agent: AI regulation, privacy, and channel specific consumer laws like TCPA and CAN-SPAM. This conversation is for privacy professionals, in-house counsel, and the analytics and marketing teams who work beside them.\nChapters00:45 Meet Mark Sanders01:45 From digital signatures to data privacy04:45 The shift from privacy law to AI law06:30 Inside Tekion and the DMS space09:00 The end of review and approve legal13:00 Bridging the lawyer engineer language gap18:05 Privacy through a B2B lens20:00 The FTC and the California CARS Act22:55 AI agents as the new privacy frontier27:05 What keeps Mark up at night\nTakeaways-Embedded product counsel reviews designs and data flows before anything ships, which is cheaper and faster than the review and approve model where legal is always running behind.-Privacy lawyers who learned to navigate the fragmented US state patchwork are the best positioned professionals to handle AI regulation, which is developing the same way.-AI and privacy are concentric circles with a constantly moving overlap: you cannot have AI without data, and personal data in AI always raises privacy questions.-Every consumer facing AI agent needs a three lens review covering AI regulation, privacy, and channel laws like TCPA and CAN-SPAM that apply regardless of the technology.-AI is only as good as the data it can reach, which makes...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/wnwhLmmWW5L4s26jmBLObEL2UQpElc_j_x-FZX7R-Rc/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS81MWZh/MzBiODVkMTA2OTE3/NmVlYWRlZDM1MWE1/MmUwZS5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}