{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"The Book Love Foundation Podcast","title":"Moves Leaders Make - Season 1, Episode 6: Leading Through Relationships and Conversation","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":1451,"description":"In this episode of Moves Leaders Make, hosts Penny Kittle and Elaine Millen talk with Jaren Vetter, a school leader whose work centers on relationships, intentional time, and the power of conversation. From leading a small rural K–8 school to stepping into a larger high school principalship, Jaren shares how conferring with staff became the anchor of his leadership. Together, they explore how prioritizing people over paperwork, making space for vulnerability, and addressing conflict head-on can transform school culture. This conversation is a powerful reminder that leadership is relational work — and small intentional moves create lasting change.GUESTJaren Vetter — High School Principal in Saskatchewan, Canada.KEY TAKEAWAYS• Why learning every student’s name is a foundational leadership move.• Prioritizing people over paperwork in the daily work of leadership.• How intentional conferring builds trust and strengthens school culture.• Structuring time to protect relationship-building in busy leadership roles.• Leveraging peer support and teacher leadership within a building.• Addressing conflict through honest, face-to-face conversation.• Why leaders must model the relational practices they hope to see in classrooms.BOOKS & REFERENCES• Revenge of the Tipping Point by Malcolm Gladwell• When Breath Becomes Air by Paul Kalanithi• The Psychology of Money by Morgan Housel• Same As Ever by Morgan Housel• What Great Principals Do Differently by Todd WhitakerMoves Leaders Make — A Book Love Foundation Podcast; Hosted by Penny Kittle and Elaine Millen; Produced by Testwood Creative Studio; Music by ryanancona, licensed from Pond5; Learn more at booklovefoundation.org","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/tIs0J9SYP9dhn1JlleKvXwE8KQZ8FeZJbyNYRnvZ8J0/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9mMGQ0/ZTVlMDAxZDdmZjNl/NTQ4ODNlYTYxM2Mx/ZDY1Yi5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}