{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"AI & I","title":"How Notion Cofounder Simon Last Builds AI for Millions of Users - Ep. 37 with Simon Last","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":3351,"description":"Notion cofounder Simon Last told me everything he’s learned from integrating an AI application into a platform that has over 100 million users.\n\nSimon likes to keep a low profile, even though he’s the driving force behind Notion AI, one of the most widely scaled AI applications in the world.\n\nIn this episode, we get into how AI changes the way he builds software since the days he cofounded Notion with Ivan Zhao in 2013. He talks about the challenges that arise because AI doesn’t follow the deterministic rules of traditional software, and how he designs evals to build AI systems that are reliable at scale. Simon tells me about the AI tools he uses to code and how he would think about rebuilding Notion from scratch with them. He also shares his thoughts on how the growing capabilities of AI are redefining human roles, and argues that we have the responsibility to shape technology to align with our collective vision of the future. \n\nThis is a must-watch for anyone interested in building reliable AI products at scale.\n\nIf you found this episode interesting, please like, subscribe, comment, and share! \n\nWant even more?\nSign up for Every to unlock our ultimate guide to prompting ChatGPT. It’s usually only for paying subscribers, but you can get it here for free.\n\nTo hear more from Dan Shipper:\nSubscribe to Every: https://every.to/subscribe \nFollow him on X: https://twitter.com/danshipper \nLinks to resources mentioned in the episode:\nSimon Last: @simonlast\nNotion AI: https://www.notion.so/product/ai \nThe AI code editor Simon uses: Cursor\nOpenAI’s definition of AGI that Simon ascribes to: https://openai.com/charter/ ","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/tpm1hNSy8JXTtPDypo5McPF0S6eDqruRTGYywu9SVrc/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS8yNDM2/YzU4NDNmYTQxNTJh/MTEzYjE4YmJmYTg5/ODY1NS5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}