{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"The DRIFT Transitions Podcast","title":"#3: Justice as the oppositie of exclusion, with Daniëlle Hirsch","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":1608,"description":"For the first season of the DRIFT Transitions Podcast, we are republishing a number of English-language episodes on transition science and practice that we previously recorded for our Dutch-language channel. What is it like to work on environmental and human rights issues from both ends, so from both the Global South (or majority world) and the Global North? And not to work *for* but *with* global organisations that are seeking justice, pointing out that those in power have to be more inclusive?In this episode from 2023, we sat down with Daniëlle Hirsch. Daniëlle has since become a member of the Dutch House of Representatives for the Dutch green party GroenLinks, but at the time of recording, she was a politican as well as director of Both ENDS. This Netherlands-based environmental and human rights organization devoted to funding, knowledge-sharing and policy work within a large global network of civil society actors.If Dutch pension funds invest in a Ugandan oil pipeline that spells tragedy for local communities and a liveable planet, Both ENDS connects Ugandan experiences with Dutch conversations. And Daniëlle also speaks of campaigning with indigenous leader and environmental activist Berta Cáceres against Dutch development bank FMO’s activities in Honduras. Sadly, Berta was killed.And though it may not be what researchers like to hear, Daniëlle doesn’t define justice as such in her work. Instead, she is fiercely devoted to the process. Do we organize processes to share power? Are enough ‘powerless’ voices included to ensure suffering stops? And why does the Netherlands have such a specific ‘do-gooder’ self-image on the global stage?Handy links:Both ENDS website: https://www.bothends.org/en/Guardian photo journalism on Uganda’s East Africa Oil Pipeline: https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/gallery/2023/feb/24/counting-the-cost-of-ugandas-east-africa-oil-pipelineSlain Honduran activist’s daughter seeks criminal probe (Al Jazeera):...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/hbZgBNITLFl7sOxKW5GgXbLhfqFUC-CGdK0nvfWTANs/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS84NzQy/NGVlM2E3ZDcwYTdi/MzNjYTc1YzAxNTNh/OGM5Yy5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}