{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Future of Life Institute Podcast","title":"Defense in Depth: Layered Strategies Against AI Risk (with Li-Lian Ang)","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/e44300de\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":3347,"description":"Li-Lian Ang is a team member at Blue Dot Impact. She joins the podcast to discuss how society can build a workforce to protect humanity from AI risks. The conversation covers engineered pandemics, AI-enabled cyber attacks, job loss and disempowerment, and power concentration in firms or AI systems. We also examine Blue Dot's defense-in-depth framework and how individuals can navigate rapid, uncertain AI progress.\n\nLINKS:\nLi-Lian Ang personal site\nBlue Dot Impact organization site\n\nCHAPTERS:\n(00:00) Episode Preview\n(00:48) Blue dot beginnings\n(03:04) Evolving AI risk concerns\n(06:20) AI agents in cyber\n(15:52) Gradual disempowerment and jobs\n(23:26) Aligning AI with humans\n(29:08) Power concentration and misuse\n(34:52) Influencing frontier AI labs\n(43:05) Uncertain timelines and strategy\n(50:18) Writing, AI, and action\n\nPRODUCED BY:\nhttps://aipodcast.ing\n\nSOCIAL LINKS:\nWebsite: https://podcast.futureoflife.org\nTwitter (FLI): https://x.com/FLI_org\nTwitter (Gus): https://x.com/gusdocker\nLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/future-of-life-institute/\nYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-rCCy3FQ-GItDimSR9lhzw/\nApple: https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/id1170991978\nSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2Op1WO3gwVwCrYHg4eoGyP","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/fFhIC-s2qSlHXzmJI7qMGts2WuLwImi4tWmRLH9EdPg/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS81MmU5/MDZjZGQ5OTI0MDc5/YTk2ZTAxYTgwYTNk/M2VlOC5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}