{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"START","title":"🎧 START pod: Lucas Ngoo, Co-founder & CEO, Cortex AI \"The Real World Is the Next Training Ground for Embodied AI\"","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":646,"description":"The internet was the training set for intelligenceNobody has built the equivalent for the physical worldPreviously, Lucas Ngoo co-founded Carousell, scaled it past $1B Now at Cortex AI he's collecting the data robotics labs need to train foundation modelsCameras, VR headsets, glasses on factory workers, retail workers, everyday people. Recording real-world manipulation work (Maybe tens of millions, even hundreds of millions of hours)Not building the robot. Not training the model. Collecting what goes in2026: scale data in a big way 2027+: start rolling robots out, 90% teleoperation, 10% autonomyWhile humans step in, the system keeps learningThat's the flywheel toward full autonomy01:38 Cortex as the data layer for general-purpose robotics02:19 Why text data doesn’t transfer cleanly to the real world02:51 Recording day-to-day human manipulation work03:23 “Tens of millions” to “hundreds of millions of hours” of data06:37 Cortex’s role: “We are really the data piece”07:28 When humanoids become part of everyday life08:00 2026 as the year data scales08:13 90% teleoperation, 10% autonomy08:37 Data flywheel toward full autonomy08:55 Synthetic data + real-world data reinforcing each other","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/q-E1hh7K6IS4AfZiNy2p4MYVGcUOO8lQP92h8QbOEOA/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS80NzVj/MDEzNjkxNjU1N2Uy/NDFhMDQ3M2ZhNWI3/NWY0MS5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}