{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"The Dave Gerhardt Show (from Exit Five)","title":"How to Stay Relevant as a Marketer in the World of AI with Mark Schaefer","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":3042,"description":"#261 AI & Creativity | In this episode, Dave is joined by Mark Schaefer, marketing strategist, keynote speaker, and author of 11 books, including his latest, Audacious: How Humans Win in an AI Marketing World. Mark has spent decades studying the intersection of marketing, tech, and human behavior, and his ideas have helped reshape how B2B brands think about relevance, creativity, and differentiation in a noisy digital world.\n\nDave and Mark cover:\nWhy playing it safe is the biggest threat to B2B marketers in the AI era\nHow to create marketing that actually connects by disrupting the story, the channel, or the storyteller\nReal examples of B2B brands ditching “best practices” and standing out with emotional, human-first marketing\nYou’ll come away with a fresh perspective on how to stay relevant, creative, and impactful, especially as AI becomes a bigger part of your marketing stack.\n\nTimestamps","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/qp2EGyx49zNMpcn-IwZXI3v-kD3r0QUel9Kwnpr1jPQ/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS8zMzlh/ODVjZDNmNjY4Mzli/MTFlNzMxZDI4ZmJm/Yzc1MC5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}