{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Intentional Churches Podcast","title":"Landscape of Evangelism in America, with Andy Cook","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/ee8db772\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":2529,"description":"Doug and co-host Daniel Goulding sit down with Andy Cook, Executive Director of the Wheaton College Billy Graham Center, to unpack why relational evangelism belongs at the center of discipleship. Together they explore sobering stats (60% of U.S. churches are stagnant or declining), Gen Z’s surprising openness to spiritual conversations, and the practical rhythms leaders can model—from Alpha tables to breakfast-booth friendships.\nDaniel shares church-plant lessons around decisions and baptisms, while Andy unpacks BGC research, revitalization cohorts, and the vision behind the Amplify Conference. Along the way, they wrestle with transfer growth vs. true conversion, the seeker-sensitive debate, preaching clearly into cultural issues, and how “radical alignment” mobilizes everyday believers. The conversation is actionable, hopeful, and data-informed.\nNew to Intentional Churches? Start here:\nhttps://intentionalchurches.com/radical-alignment\nCHAPTERS:\n00:00 The Sobering Statistic: 60% of Churches in Decline or Stagnant\n01:03 Meet Co-Host Daniel Goulding and His Church Plant Story\n01:21 Andy Cook’s Journey: From Willow Creek to Wheaton College\n03:28 Daniel’s Radical Conversion: From Fraternity Life to Faith\n06:43 Early Lessons in Relational Evangelism\n08:03 Inviting Friends, Broken Hearts, and the “Lonely Bench” at Willow\n10:33 Why Evangelism Must Begin with Leaders\n13:32 Everyday Evangelism: Breakfast Tables and Baptism Stories\n15:02 Making Evangelism a Regular Appointment on the Calendar\n16:56 Why Andy Leads Alpha and Steps Outside the Christian Bubble\n17:13 Inside the Billy Graham Center and Its Institutes\n20:30 State of Evangelism in America Today\n23:15 Transfer Growth vs. True Kingdom Growth\n24:48 Why Evangelism Feels Scary—and Why It’s Still Biblical\n26:20 Bad Evangelism vs. Good Evangelism: Learning Like Toddlers\n28:56 Discipleship and Evangelism: Two Sides of the Same Coin\n30:40 Can You Have Deep Discipleship Without Evangelism?32:23 Gen Z’s Spiritual Openness...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/smAwUgxq6qqLJDPHm-fVts5bjtUHttHCDUNOwZdqKHc/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS80ZTJm/ZGE1ZjNhMTBhMDkz/M2EwOTQ4Y2Y2YzRl/NjVkOS5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}