{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"The Luba Show","title":"$9.5B Gusto Founder Went Back to Being an Engineer to Build an AI CoFounder - Edward Kim","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/f12571e7\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":4525,"description":"Today I walk with Edward Kim, co-founder and CTO of Gusto. Edward built Gusto with two Stanford classmates into a $9.5B payroll platform running 300,000 small businesses, made over $1M selling Android apps on the side, and after a decade managing engineers, he's writing code again to ship an AI co-founder for the back office his mom used to run when he was a kid. He gets into why his doctor dad handed him a Paul Graham essay in the car, and the unfairness technical co-founders feel while business co-founders raise the money.\nWe get into:\n-Making $700K a year selling Android apps after his first startup shut down\n-Why his doctor dad handing him a Paul Graham essay changed his career\n-His mom running the entire back office of his dad's medical practice while raising three kids\n-The unfairness technical co-founders feel while business co-founders get wined and dined by investors\n-Going back to code after 10 years managing engineers to ship an AI co-founder for small businesses\nso much more!\n\n(00:00) Trailer\n(00:51) Edward Kim, Co-Founder and CTO, Gusto\n(00:57) The elaborate escape rooms he builds for his wife Yuna\n(03:04) The San Francisco half marathon on a bet that reconnected him with Josh\n(05:32) Making $700,000 a year selling Android apps\n(10:25) Screenshot It, the $7 app for a feature Android didn't have\n(18:31) His mom running the entire back office of his dad's medical practice\n(26:22) The Paul Graham essay his doctor dad handed him in the car\n(29:51) Getting into Y Combinator with Gary as a partner\n(32:49) The unfairness technical co-founders feel while business co-founders raise money\n(36:51) After 15 years of co-founding, why the workload evens out\n(56:07) Building Gusto Co-Founder for the small business back office\n(1:15:01) His life philosophy in one sentence\n(1:15:08) Outro\nFollow Edward\nLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edawerd/\nX: https://x.com/edawerd\nFollow Luba\nInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/lifeoflubaa/\nLinkedIn:...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/YqzaHw3n0IkFjbaJ3P1-kJdgx8xK8KM9hpwhFomu37c/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS8yNTdk/NDE1ZWFmMmZiMGJk/YWZmODg0ZDZmMDYy/M2Q1Mi5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}