{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"The Professional CISO","title":"Magic, Mentalism, and the Modern CISO – with Gary Chan","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":2662,"description":"Episode Summary In this episode, host David Malicoat sits down in St. Louis, Missouri with Gary Chan, Chief Information Security Officer at SSM Health — and a professional Security Mentalist. Gary blends his background in cybersecurity, engineering, and mentalism to bring a refreshingly human and creative approach to leadership, awareness, and influence in the world of cyber. From performing mind-reading demonstrations to explaining how storytelling drives executive buy-in, Gary shows us how creativity and communication can transform a CISO’s impact inside and outside the organization. They dive deep into how CISOs can become better leaders, storytellers, and advocates for security — and why selling the “why” is far more powerful than explaining the “how.” Key Takeaways🎩 Magic Meets Cybersecurity: How Gary uses mentalism and showmanship to make security awareness engaging and unforgettable.🧭 The Future of the CISO: Why tomorrow’s security leaders must master storytelling, influence, and emotional intelligence — not just technology.💼 Selling the Business Case: How to translate “reduce risk” into tangible stories that matter to the CFO, board, and business leaders.🧠 Leadership Lessons from the Stage: What performing magic taught Gary about persuasion, empathy, and audience connection.💡 From VAR to Healthcare CISO: Gary’s career journey through consulting, sales, and healthcare leadership — and the lessons he carried forward.Notable Quotes“When you’re a senior leader, it’s all about storytelling — people need to understand how security ties back to why the organization exists.”“Nobody cares about reducing risk. They care about the impact to them — their goals, their reputation, their mission.”“Magic and cybersecurity aren’t that different — both are about understanding people’s perceptions and guiding them toward the right conclusion.” Listener BenefitsLearn how to communicate cybersecurity’s value through stories, not statsDiscover practical ways to make security...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/ug-fdoDtb-XHe_KV42kTMgyIR-0A0-pVyy6kAU5aDd0/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS83YTZi/YjBjZDcwZGU5Zjcz/M2E1ZWJkY2QxMTFk/MjkyZC5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}