{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"The Dave Gerhardt Show (from Exit Five)","title":"#120: Design - How To Drive More Pipeline by Taking Risks with Design and Brand (with Eli Rubel)","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/f9a6fd57\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":2572,"description":"In this episode, Dave is joined by Eli Rubel. Eli is the CEO of Matter Made and NoBoringDesign and a Marketing Advisor for companies like Dropbox and Loom. Eli discusses how companies that take risks with their design and go outside the brand guidelines will stand out in the sea of sameness and drive more pipeline. He also discussesHis framework for focusing on 'micro surfaces' that lead to bigger winsThe importance of timing in email marketingHow to properly analyze the efficiency of your marketing spendTimestamps","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/qp2EGyx49zNMpcn-IwZXI3v-kD3r0QUel9Kwnpr1jPQ/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS8zMzlh/ODVjZDNmNjY4Mzli/MTFlNzMxZDI4ZmJm/Yzc1MC5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}