Realities Remixed

Haleon, a world-leading consumer health company, are dealing with large enterprise legacy, as they were formed via a demerger from GSK. While product engineering and the transition to product-centric organizations are often associated solely with born-in-the-cloud companies, the reality is usually much broader, and Haleon are on that journey.

This week Dave, Rob and Sjoukje talk to Steve Westgarth, Global Head of Engineering & Architecture at Haleon, about product engineering best practices, building high performing teams, aligning product teams with the business, getting the engineers as close to the business as possible and whether Agile is dead or not.

TLDR:
02:30 Cookie confusion
05:40 Cloud conversation with Steve Westgarth
29:00 Five key characteristics of high performing teams 
35:00 A surprise birthday party!

Guest
Steve Westgarth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevewestgarth/

Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Sjoukje Zaal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sjoukjezaal/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Production
Marcel Van Der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-van-der-burg-99a655/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

Creators and Guests

Host
Dave Chapman
Chief Cloud Evangelist with nearly 30 years of global experience in strategic development, transformation, program delivery, and operations, I bring a wealth of expertise to the world of cloud innovation. In addition to my professional expertise, I’m the creator and main host of the Cloud Realities podcast, where we explore the transformative power of cloud technology.
Host
Rob Kernahan
VP Chief Architect for Cloud and Cloud Realities podcast host, drives digital transformation by combining deep technical expertise with exceptional client engagement. Passionate about high-performance cultures, he leverages cloud and modern operating models to create low-friction, high-velocity environments that fuel business growth and empower people to thrive.
Producer
Marcel van der Burg
VP Global Marketing and producer of the Cloud Realities podcast, is a strategic marketing leader with 33+ years of experience. He drives global cloud marketing strategies, leveraging creativity, multi-channel expertise, and problem-solving to deliver impactful business growth in complex environments.

What is Realities Remixed?

From the award‑winning team behind Cloud Realities, Realities Remixed explores what happens when people, culture, industry, and technology collide, because real breakthroughs rarely come from technology alone.
In each episode, hosts Dave Chapman, Esmee van de Giessen, and Rob Kernahan dig beneath the surface of innovation to understand what’s truly shifting. They speak with leaders, practitioners, vendors and thinkers across industries to explore how technology reshapes human behaviour, organisational culture, and society, for better and sometimes for worse.

Web - https://www.capgemini.com/insights/research-library/cloud-realities-podcast/
Email - realitiesremixed@capgemini.com