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all right what's up
everybody today I got
amanda the co-host of the
socially this is podcast
and anime pop podcast over
at the pop break and I also
have my main man gibbs
fresh off a competition
this weekend where he was
slinging pulled pork and
barbecue for everybody
what's up y'all hey
I'm like, I,
I wish I had been there for
that competition.
I'm hungry now.
Oh, it's, it's, it's always great.
And I was kicking my star
wars stuff for made a fourth.
Yeah.
I had, uh, my, uh,
one with the force and the
forces one with me shirt.
Crocs.
I was wearing my, uh, dude,
you gotta rock the cross with no socks.
No, I had socks on,
but I was rocking my star wars crocs.
Yeah.
Those are my barbecue shoes.
I'm just saying, I mean,
the first is definitely with you.
Definitely with you because
that first place for your sauce.
First place for sauce,
third place for pork loin
and pulled pork was 18th
and our ribs was 17th.
But this is the third
straight competition in which we've
had finals, which is the top three.
So that's awesome.
And this is our first year competing,
our fifth competition.
Hell yeah.
That's what's up, man.
I'm happy for you, dude.
Especially the part where
you're rocking the Star
Wars cross because that
puts a smile on my face.
I'm a crop guy.
I would rock crops to work
if they had let me.
I wish that they had,
they take pictures of you.
So there's a picture of me
With my first turn in and
with my Star Wars shirt and my Crocs on.
But what they don't get is the sound.
I actually walked up there
to Vader's death march.
Hell yeah, dude.
That's how to do it.
That's how you should do it
every competition, man.
Now I just have to know,
do you have any cooking,
like your grilling utensils?
Are they Star Wars themed?
No, not yet.
We got to change that.
We got to change it.
I have some Star Wars chopsticks,
but I haven't found any that I really,
really like yet.
But most definitely once that happens,
yeah.
Yeah, that's awesome.
Oh, man.
So we got Mac joining us right now.
We got Frankie D in the house.
Frankie D,
it'd be nice for you to check
your messages, bro.
I'm trying to check in on you,
make sure you're good.
The dark side...
Yes.
The dark side is stronger,
Frankie D. It always is.
He's always the heel.
That's what I love about him.
Oh, yeah.
He's probably a fan of Tales of the Empire,
then.
Let's not jump ahead.
We're going to get to Tales of the Empire.
That was different.
It was definitely different.
So today is Revenge of the Siths.
Well, technically,
it's Revenge of the Fifth on the 6th.
But we're going to make it
work because my team was busy yesterday.
And, well, you know, I was watching,
you know,
Episode 1 again for like the
15th or 16th time.
I mean, it's Star Wars month, really.
You still have Thor's birthday.
You have the attack on the
Clone Wars anniversary.
You got all kinds of... It
should be Star Wars month.
It really should.
I'm going to petition that.
We make it the whole month.
Of course,
Frankie D is going to say it was crap.
Today is all about the Bad Batch,
Tales of the Empire.
And we're going to talk a
little bit about the Alkalite trailers.
They released the final trailer Saturday,
I believe it was.
And they said, hey,
let's jump right on into the Bad Batch,
Clone Force 99.
So we had Dee Bradley Baker,
who voices the entirety of the Bad Batch.
And I think the clones as well,
if I ain't mistaken.
Yeah.
And then Michelle Ang, who plays Omega.
And that's mainly our main cast.
I mean,
we get some reprisals from some
other characters.
I know Wanda Sykes voices some.
I think she voices Fi.
Yes.
And then...
Danny DeVito's ex-wife.
Rhea Perlman.
Rhea Perlman, yes.
She voices somebody as well, I believe.
She's not in the season yet.
Sid.
She voices Sid.
Sid, yes.
Who polarizes the internet.
Yes.
So, I mean,
it's the same group of voice
actors that we're used to getting, but...
Let's back up to season two.
The biggest thing from
season two going into season three.
We lose Tech.
That reminds me.
Wanda Sykes.
Fee.
Huh?
Fee.
Yeah.
What were you going to say about her?
I was going to say that we
mentioned that Wanda Sykes
was voicing Fee.
Yes.
Boy.
That grill must have took it out of you,
bro.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, we're going to discuss that, Frank,
ED.
I swear to you, we are.
I got my thoughts on that one as well.
I think there was some
missed opportunities there,
but we'll get into that.
So we lose Tech, who, by the way,
had this weird thing going with Fi,
the Pirate.
Well,
she didn't consider herself a pirate.
She considered herself a a
recoverer of a lot.
A privateer.
Yes.
A recoverer of artifacts.
And of course,
Omega to save her brothers
goes with the Empire.
Yep.
To the island where Hemlock
is conducting all his experiments.
On the clones and creatures and
Everything else.
He's like a modern day.
Well,
I don't know if you want to say
modern day,
but Island of Dr. Monroe or
whatever it is.
Is that the name of that movie?
Yeah.
Dr. Monroe.
Dude, that movie was phenomenal,
by the way, both versions of it,
the new one and the older one.
And that's kind of what this
season reminded me of with
this guy experimenting on
the clones and the animals there.
Oh, yeah.
So then we get, right, wait,
let's do this.
I don't want to do this episodically.
I just, it bothers me.
So let's start with, um, the first escape.
Okay.
So Omega escapes with, um,
crosshair crosshair and the dog.
Cause she's,
of course,
got to be Omega and save the dog.
Right.
Which, I mean,
that's been me and Rob's
complaint about Omega since
season one is this girl is
going to get everybody freaking killed.
Well, remember,
she almost got the dog
killed because they
released the dog because of
her bond with the animal that
They were like,
it's no longer doing what
we want it to do.
It's no longer as tough, as feral,
as all this stuff.
So they put it out to be killed.
Yeah.
But that's Omega.
I mean, it's it's a tough call, though.
I mean,
that poor dog was going to get it
either way.
I think I think at least
she'd get a dog would have
gotten somewhat of a fighting chance.
But that's hard, though,
because I'm wondering if they well,
I don't think they were native.
To the planet, were they?
I didn't I don't I don't
think I made it seem like
they were they were brought in.
They were brought in and
they were genetically
modified by hemlock is what.
Yeah, I got out of that.
Yeah.
So it's such an interesting
take because I'm like, well, either way,
it was due to get put down.
And it's, well,
it's either it's going to
get eaten by something
native to the island or.
Yeah, and the island didn't take no jotes.
It took lives.
No.
Like even the plant life
there was taking bodies.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was a real,
real dangerous situation.
And they cultivated it.
They did.
The weed out the weak.
I kind of wish we had gotten
more from that, though,
because you're in this
forest and they set up, like,
here's these dangers.
And then, you know,
here comes the
stormtroopers blundering
around with the tracking dogs.
And I'm like, nobody got eaten from there.
I'm like, y'all are all stumbling around.
And I'm being very nitpicky at this point,
but I'm just like... You know what?
The chief complaint...
Is they cultivated that island.
To keep everything in.
And nothing.
Or nothing to get in.
Like the only people who can get out.
Is themselves.
Like you're not getting in.
You're not getting out.
Because the island itself.
They cultivated.
They.
Dr. Hemlock.
Freaking made this island to be.
Like it will kill you basically.
Like the entire fucking island.
So.
But it would have been cool to kind of,
since we were getting so
much of the animal life, you know,
sometimes you see some of
the plants that are intriguing.
The creeping vines.
Yeah.
That's interesting.
And I'm like,
I would have liked to have seen like one,
especially when it got chaotic,
like one stormtrooper mess up and get.
Get snatched up.
I thought there was one that
did toward the escape.
There was one that did get snatched up.
Oh, that's right.
Okay.
There was one and that was to show that,
you know, hey,
it was carnivorous and all
this other stuff.
It was during the first escape, I believe.
Yeah.
So that would have been fun
to have seen a little bit more of that.
Cause I'm like,
I'll build this and it's like, okay,
okay.
We're in the forest.
And I'm like,
and I was kind of looking
forward to seeing like,
if there was more wildlife or, you know,
there was some wildlife,
but we'll talk about that.
Not native though.
No, definitely not native,
but it definitely owns the
Island all to itself now.
I was happy, though, with that one.
I guess it's like the most
Omega thing ever.
Yeah, it is.
But I feel like it was
redemption for that particular.
Oh, yeah, without a doubt.
Yeah, without a doubt.
So they save themselves.
They finally meet back up
with their brothers, Crosshair and Omega.
They meet up with, you know,
with Wrecker and Hunter and Echo.
who Echo is kind of like a
come and go character with
Captain Rats and that crew
that's actually out there
helping save the clones
from other worlds and planets.
How do y'all think or how do
y'all feel about how they
did Echo with this?
Because I mean,
when you look at some of
the other things in the Bad Batch,
it's not just your main
It's not just Hunter and Wrecker,
Echo and Crosshair and Omega.
I mean,
there's been other clones that have
worked with them in the past.
Do y'all think we should
have got some more of those team-ups?
For this season, for the third season, no.
I think that they did it
exactly the way that it
probably was supposed to go.
you do those little cameos
those little support guys
but you you they really
needed to focus on the the
main four of the bad batch
and they they did that they
brought it in to show how
much contact and how much
support they still had to
you know rex echo and the
other clones that were out
there doing it yeah but I
think any more than it would have
diluted who and what the Bad Batch were.
I agree with that.
I think it was handled perfectly with Echo,
too.
I think he was a nice center
point and very balanced
because he brought in, again,
the original Clone Wars.
He's part of the original series.
And then, of course, he tied in Rex,
which we know is going to
tie into Rebels further.
And I think it was a nice
little... He kept
everything together to
where everything made sense
in the Star Wars universe.
But I also think it was
well balanced because you
don't want to put too much
detail in because you've
already told their story in
Rebels and you know where
Rex winds up and you have
Wolf and Gregor and
And then the question comes
up of where did everybody else go?
And then you have to start
kind of trying to fix what
you've already put out there, retcon,
and people start deep diving.
So I think this was handled.
Oh,
and people deep dived the hell out of
this to begin with.
They do.
Hey, I will put it out there.
Gregor is getting a Black
Series figure with Yoda.
Nice.
Interesting.
Okay.
Indica sheet green.
Oh, not okay.
With the green, like his,
he's getting his green,
like the green lined in the green,
like accent pieces.
So it's going to be, I was like, God damn.
And all this up for pre-order right now.
I'm like, that might be one.
I might have to sneak over and pre-order,
but yeah,
Hasbro dropped some great
stuff over the fourth and
they're still dropping stuff.
Yeah.
So, but I know that's off topic,
but her mentioning Gregor,
I was just like, Ooh, by the way,
Gregor's getting, but it's also,
it's also interesting too.
When you talk about toy,
the toy releases and the figure releases,
because sometimes even though you're like,
what is this?
Or that that's just,
it's like a whole different,
they might be setting up.
They might know something.
We don't.
Yes.
Spoiler alert.
We'll predict the future.
Yes.
Yeah.
And judging by some of the
figures they dropped, there's some,
some good stuff coming down the pipe.
If it's all gonna, if it's related.
Right.
Cause there was some great
stuff that dropped over the weekend.
So let's get to the, you know,
the family reunites, so to speak.
And they're dealing with
crosshair and he's like a,
angry teenager at times.
I know his hand is messed up
at this point.
It was injured.
And how did y'all feel when
basically they forgave him?
Not necessarily forgive him,
but when they put the trust back into him,
he kind of earned that
place with the team again.
If you...
If you notice,
the dynamic never went back
to what it was.
It did.
It did not.
And Hunter, and they got into it later on,
you know,
and they had to have that come out.
Ricker was like, Ricker, you know.
He's a child.
He's a big man child,
but he basically goes the
way that Hunter is going to go.
Yeah.
And, you know, he's, you know,
especially Omega, you know,
when Omega's like, hey, you know,
he's he's our brother.
He's back.
This this records this.
But Hunter has I felt even towards the end,
feel the end.
which I'm getting a little
ahead of myself of us, but I mean, we can,
we can,
we can answer the questions ourselves.
In that last episode where
things were going up
against the fence and
against the wall and crosshair was like,
you guys go, I got this.
And Hunter kind of looked
back and was like, no, you know,
he was like, you don't have to, he goes,
it's okay.
You know,
that that sort of kind of closed
it back in for him.
But it was 13 episodes to
get to that point.
Well, it's about nine episodes, I guess,
because till then he was if
he's on the fence, he's always looking,
you know, at what Crosshair is doing.
Keep an eye on them.
I think it's a valid
reaction to have in terms
of I would have been more unhappy,
I think, if Hunter was two episodes in.
Okay, I forgive you.
I think you have that visible reminder.
It's very un-Hunter-like.
It is,
but also you have that visible
reminder of what the cost
was for Crosshair defecting
and being turning trader.
And, you know, with tech loss,
they lost tech.
And I feel like with tech,
if tech was there,
I think the dynamic would
have gone back to what it was instant.
Instant.
But, I mean, gives you a great,
that's a very astute observation,
or observation because you really can't,
it never really, even at the end,
when Hunter kind of made peace with it,
it never went back to being the same.
Like it just, you know,
Tech's loss was so profound.
And I think you just,
you felt it in just the way
the dynamic just never, never fixed.
And Omega looks at it like a child.
This was a good reminder
that she is a child.
She's a teenager.
She's 12, 13 years old at this point.
Because it's a very simplistic view of,
okay, he's back.
He's our brother.
We should forgive him.
And there's not a whole lot
of comprehension on her end about
These guys grew up together.
They came up.
The bond there,
even though the bond with you is strong,
they had a bond before you came.
Yeah.
But let's also remember,
Omega is older than them.
Oh, that's true.
Technically, she is, yeah.
They had the flash training moments.
maturation, if you will.
I don't know if that's a word,
but Gibb is using it.
The maturation of the
process and all that stuff
ingrained into them.
It makes them seem like
they're older and they've
aged older than she has.
Technically, she's older than them.
It's funny because the
dynamic between her and
Wrecker is more on a level
because of his, you know, reduced IQ,
you know,
even though the dude could do some,
you know,
he can do some different things
with engineering and stuff,
but it like an idiot savant type bill.
Yeah.
But if it's an explosive,
he can blow it up, man.
Yes.
Hey,
we're going to have a Frank D join us
for a few minutes.
All right.
Okay.
Always the heel.
I love having him on.
Our resident Darksider.
Exactly.
Somebody has to balance everything out.
While we're waiting on him to join us,
answer me this now.
Before the season ever started,
we knew Dr. Hemlock had
created his own special
force clone-esque people
that he had mutated and
genetically modified once
again to make these assassins.
Did y'all at any point
believe Tech was that one?
No.
Yeah, I didn't either.
I was just like, yep.
I think at this point,
Tech or Filoni was like, Tech is dead.
Y'all understand.
Dude is dead.
All right, here we go.
All right, ladies and gentlemen,
boys and girls,
without much more introduction,
I bring you Frank D. What up, Frank D?
Nice.
yes oh yes what's up I knew
this was happening with the
red with the lightsabers
dressed like darth vader
you got to hear his darth
vader impression and his
his sidious impression
they're top notch listen
you can't have a revenge of
the six show or whatever
we're calling it without
the dark lord so yeah I
tried reaching out man and
I hadn't heard from you so
he had us all worried
Well, you know something, sometimes, bro,
you just got to take a step
back for a minute.
Trust me, I'm just getting back into it.
I did the same thing.
Yeah,
but you guys were talking about the
Bad Batch,
and I started the Bad Batch late.
And I was hearing the conversation.
I said, you know what?
Why am I listening to these
people talk when I can just
simply come on?
So I decided I'm going to
crash a party tonight.
I'm going to come on here.
You are a forever council member.
You are more than welcome.
You can hit me up and go, hey, Jeff,
let's go live and let's talk something.
And we will do it.
Well, I appreciate that.
Good, sir.
It is.
Good job.
You didn't freeze,
but it could be if you are freezing,
it's because you like to
adhere to the light side of the force.
No, no, no, no.
Let's get things straight.
I am Mando ID.
I am Mandalorian.
And I take down both Jedi
and Sith with equal, equal pleasure.
well the thing I will tell
you is you don't know the
power of the dark side yes
that's what I needed but
you guys are talking about
rogue clones the bad match
yes so please continue all
right so we were just discussing tech
and whether or not anybody
actually believed beside
the internet community that
they brought tech from the
dead and made him one of the assassins,
which just, yeah.
Yes.
I was a believer in this theory.
Yes.
I thought this.
Okay.
You know something?
When there was some similarities.
Yes.
When dude started showing up this mystery,
you know, I'm like,
that's tech has to be right.
Yeah.
Yeah, I fell for it.
I fell for the Ben switch.
I did.
I thought we had something here.
I'm like, okay, this is going to be good.
Because I was like,
I marked out when I saw the Emperor.
I marked out when I saw him.
We all did.
Yeah.
I mean, it's the Emperor.
Why would you not?
Exactly.
It's the whole reason why this exists.
Outside of, you know, Lord Lucas.
But...
That dude's not a $4 billion
man or $4 million Sith.
I don't know who he is.
No,
but I actually thought that this was
tech.
I was like,
this is going to be cool to reveal.
It's going to be sweet.
Wait a minute.
I actually thought,
because I knew that there
was more than just the one
that they showed, right?
Because he was like, why did you call me?
Why am I operating?
Why are you bringing me in?
I actually thought that they
were going to reveal,
if they revealed at all,
that these were the Delta Squad.
oh okay because an episode
in uh the clone war series
I think it was season three
one of those episodes you
actually saw delta squad
from the books in the video
game yeah but I thought
they were uh with the red
like they had red trim
for Delta Squad?
They did in some of the
books and some of the other stuff.
But in the Clone Wars, all they did,
they said,
this is Delta Squad coming back.
And they brought some stuff
and they had the yellow visors.
They had the different
visors and all that stuff.
And I was thinking that
would be awesome for them
to have converted Delta Squad into this.
But
That would have been dope.
Yeah.
That was the only thing that I thought of.
But the fact that they left
them as nameless, you know, assassins,
assassins, you know,
shadow shadow clones.
And that's I was OK.
Shadow clones.
I like it.
And to me, when they did that,
it was missing the – I
guess I was looking for
this emotional kind of
scene where it would have
been like that big reveal.
It kind of goes back to –
you remember when in Rebels
where Ahsoka kind of knew
she kind of sensed that
Vader was Anakin Skywalker?
It was kind of that emotional dynamic.
So I was looking for that
with the Bad Batch when
they realized that Tech didn't die.
and that he's just rogue
trying to kill them now.
Yeah, no, I get that 100%,
because I kind of, like, that was around,
it was that mid-season mark
where you're kind of looking for that,
emotional twist or something
that they normally give you
and they just didn't get
they could have done it if
because especially when you
have the episode with Asajj
Ventress and we're talking
about you know Omega
possibly forced sorry for
sensitive I'm jumping ahead
I know but that would have
been an interesting way to
reveal that she really is
for sensitive by her by her being the one
to detect tech because she's
force sensitive.
And I think the other clones
are not from what I understand,
or at least the rest of the
bad batch wasn't.
So that would have been an
interesting way to go about it.
Well,
Are you talking about Omega?
Yes.
Okay, let's put a pin in that one.
We'll get into that whole
Omega Force sensitive.
Yeah, I have thoughts on that.
In the conversation where
we're at right now,
let's just jump right into that.
Because Asajj Ventress, I mean,
I'm a huge fan of the character.
Where she went.
What she came from.
How she actually died.
Like the character as a whole.
I'm a big fan.
Like hands down.
I'm probably going to end up
paying like $100 for her Lego minifig.
Just because I'm a fan like that.
And her regular figure from
Hasbro right now is like $100 plus too.
My allergies are bothering
the shit out of me right now.
But let's talk about that.
So the clones.
The batch,
they visit Fennec Shad and they
put them in contact with Asajj.
Asajj visits to see if she's
clone or sensitive.
And at the end of the day, it really,
it still left us kind of
high and dry where we
didn't know one way or the other.
that was done on purpose.
I feel like, I mean, I know it was,
but it's kind of like, well,
you want to see some type
of closure there.
Like there,
is she a force sensitive clone
or is she like,
it's going to be one of those things that,
because I,
I feel like the way that the
show ended with Omega, uh,
The door is open for her to
show up anywhere at this point.
I feel like that might be
something they further
explore later with her,
which would be interesting.
I almost feel like they were
testing it out.
How are people going to react?
I think that he's done this before.
It's the Sabine Wren all over again.
Yeah.
But here's the difference.
They, again, and we can go back,
and I think me and Frankie
D talked about this for a second.
The whole, you know,
everybody is force
sensitive because the force
is in everything.
There's a difference between
the force being within
every living thing and all
that stuff and someone
actually able to utilize
the force on any level.
Like they said, that she, you know, she...
Basically, was she force sensitive?
She had the potential is
what I think that they were getting at.
But it was, again, like Sabine Wren, very,
very low.
But what Dr. Hemlock was
looking for was the
capability of the transfer
of the M counts in which
everybody has M counts and
whether it's ridiculously low and God,
I still hate that word.
I'm glad they don't say the full,
but they say M counts, but the,
whether or not, you know,
the greater the M count,
the greater your potential for.
You know, utilizing the Force.
You know, it's that connection.
Basically, she was, when I got from that,
too,
was basically a female Anakin Skywalker,
pretty much.
Yes, she had a ridiculously high MK,
according to the show.
The midichlorians?
Yep.
Yeah.
That's Rob's favorite word, by the way.
I don't think that she had a
ridiculously high.
I think that it was the fact
that within those,
because remember when they
were testing the other kids
and those stuff, those kids actually,
some of them were actually
using the force and had force abilities.
Yep.
Her difference was they were testing her.
And the only reason why she
was moved down there is
because they were testing clones,
not only to see whether or
not they can use the force,
but whether or not they can
port the M counts from one
clone genetic source to another.
And of course that ties into, you know,
Project Necromancer.
And all that stuff.
The return of making
Palpatine's clones able
to... They were justifying
the comeback of Palpatine.
Let's just look at it as it is.
Oh yeah, it's retro.
And that harkens back into
the EU in which after Palpatine dies,
he has a whole bunch of
clones that come up.
until they actually drag his
soul into the great beyond.
I mean, even then,
Omega wasn't the first
clone to be Force-sensitive.
There was one before her in the books.
In the book?
Well, yeah,
but that's a whole different thing.
We're talking about Genku
and that whole thing,
but that's because Genku
was actually the son of a
clone and a Jedi General.
Ladies and gentlemen,
I just want to make it
clear that a BCP Hall of
Famer has joined us in the
comment section.
Mr. Bill Bodkin.
Ladies and gentlemen.
Hi, Bill.
What's up, Bill?
Hey.
I'm not up on the young people slang,
so I don't know what that means.
Yeah, yeah, motherfuckers.
Exactly.
Yip, yip, motherfuckers.
That's what he's going for.
Oh, you can cuss on this show.
We're perfectly fine with that, Bill.
Okay.
Cuss away.
Yip, yip.
Now we got a show.
What's up, Bill?
Glad to have you on.
Glad you could join us tonight.
We were talking Star Wars, of course.
And we were talking Bad Batch.
Everybody knows I have a
problem with Omega.
You and me both.
But I think she redeemed
herself to some degree.
It's not just that.
I detest her character ever being created.
But that's part of my
problem with Filoni is too.
I hate that I love that he's
so awesome and great for Star Wars.
He is the heir.
He is the apprentice.
And one day he shall become
the master after George
Lucas fades into the
becomes one with the force.
But he is the future of where we're going.
And I hate.
I recognize and I love that.
I call him Thelonious
because he steals a lot of shit.
They are absolutely making
Omega out to be this super potential,
super individual.
I'm not going to get carried
away too much like I sometimes can.
You do.
Her potential with the Force is...
I think that that was too spot on,
too on the nose and all that stuff.
If they're going to have her
in something else,
I fully understand that.
So, I mean, let's air it out, man.
We have Rogue, not Rogue Squadron.
Yeah, is it Rogue Squadron?
Rogue Squadron is coming up.
And we'll jump ahead of
ourselves a little bit.
She did leave to join the
Rebellion to be a pilot.
So who's to say that we
don't see her again?
I swear to God, I'm going to lose my shit.
Oh, she's the best pilot in the Rebellion.
No, stop.
My theory on her is that I
think what Filoni was
trying to do was take Omega
and create the phenomenon like Ahsoka.
You have this kid that starts off,
and he's basically
following the same formula,
hoping that people would
get attached to Omega.
We're not attached to her.
Like, we love Ahsoka.
Sabine and Ahsoka.
But I think with Sabine,
a little different, though,
because of the following
she had from Rebels.
But kind of, yeah, that same formula.
I didn't like her in Rebels.
So, listen,
you brought up a minute ago about Filoni.
One day being the heir to the Empire,
pretty much.
He is the heir to the Empire.
He is the heir to the Empire,
and we'll see come October
just how far he will go into the Empire,
because there's a lot of
things happening right now
at Disney where
I don't know if you guys are
aware of what's going on at
Disney right now.
They know they fucked up
with the sequel trilogy.
They know it's a done deal.
They put a video out the
other day for Celebration
of May the 4th and the
sequel trilogy was not in it at all.
It was all original trilogy shit.
It was prequels.
It was animation.
That's what it was.
They're kind of reverting
back to what made Star Wars
work to begin with.
What is Star Wars?
Star Wars is
Darth Vader, Luke Skywalker, that shit.
This is what's going to make them money.
They know this.
This is the reason why if
you're looking at Star Wars Blue Milk,
who's undercover to Blue Milk?
Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader.
So that's what makes them money.
So as it relates to Omega,
I personally think Omega's cool,
but she's like a dork.
And
She's a child.
A nice dork.
She's kind of like one of those.
She's just so pure.
She reminds me so much of
Luke Skywalker in A New Hope.
She wants to help everybody.
I'll get even further than that.
She reminds me of Anakin from Episode 1.
Just... No, no.
Just pure... And I can't
wait for Omega to finally
see the real world and join
the dark side.
Because... That... That
would be the ultimate...
That would be the ultimate, you know,
turn for me.
Is to see her, you know,
so pure and now... But
she's out here seeing some shit.
And she's seeing that, you know,
what the Bad Batch tried to
protect her from.
You know...
She's going to see it now,
and she's going to fall to the dark side.
That's where I think the
character has to go here.
You can't be a goody
two-shoes in a baby face.
I'm talking to you, Kaylee.
You can't be a goody
two-shoes in a baby face
this entire time.
You know, the villain is a sell.
You know what I mean?
Why is Darth Vader so
popular in pop culture today?
It's because he sells.
It's because people like the bad guys.
So when it comes to Omega, I'm like,
they missed opportunities
here with her so much in the show.
She was trying to, oh, you know,
you have to forgive him and
all this bullshit.
No.
Fuck him.
I mean,
we all know Filoni likes to lay out
storyboards and game plans
years in advance.
So, I mean,
who knows where he's going with it?
But as she stated here, Amanda stated,
she stated basically that
Filoni followed the same blueprint with
Ahsoka.
Ahsoka started off as this
annoying character that
people grew to love.
Oh, I will not tolerate Ahsoka's slander.
She's my favorite.
See, you know something?
Honestly, I can't agree with you on that.
Because Ahsoka turned a
corner for me in Rebels.
When she had this connection
to when they're doing this
and saying the force is
strong with this one.
Then he said, the apprentice lives.
That is when it turned a
corner for me with Ahsoka.
And that followed into...
The Ahsoka show.
Now,
what was wrong with the Ahsoka show
real quick, people?
Then we'll get back on this.
What was wrong with the Ahsoka show to me?
I did not like fucking
Sabine and I didn't like
Ezra because they basically
pussified Ezra.
You know what I'm saying?
He was not the character he was in Rebels.
Sabine all of a sudden now has the force.
Fuck that.
You don't have the force.
The only people that should
be dealing with the Force was Ahsoka,
Ezra, Bailen, and Shin Hattie.
And Shin Hattie was one of
the best female characters
on the whole damn show.
And listen, I'm partial to the dark side.
I'm in the red light here.
She was charismatic as hell.
But you have Sabine here who like, okay,
you get fucking... And this
is another problem with
Disney Star Wars real quick.
You get fucking stabbed with a lightsaber.
And my God, if you're quite gone, Jen...
And you see all these
fuckers being resurrected.
They don't die.
We all know 10 minutes after Qui-Gon died,
they invented the Bacta tank, okay?
If he would have died 10 minutes later,
he would have been good to go.
That's one of the best skits ever done,
by the way.
Well, there's somebody,
I feel like I see him on Instagram,
Charlie something or other,
that he does these reels
where he's like AI'd Qui-Gon.
Yeah, that's where he came from.
Yeah, and that was great.
I was like, what do you mean?
What do you mean?
That was so great.
Yeah,
Batto was invented 10 minutes after
you died.
She's going to play a big part.
Omega's going to play a big
part moving forward in their plans.
So, you know, obviously,
what's on the horizon here?
You got, what is this, the Skeleton Crew?
Yeah,
Skeleton Crew is going to be Old
Republic.
But you also have,
what I'm getting at here is
that you have all these
other projects on a
pipeline because the only
thing we know what Omega is this, is that,
okay, we've seen her in animation form.
We have not yet seen her live action,
okay?
Where do we go here with Andor Season 2?
We know Andor Season 2 is
leading to the events of Rogue One.
We know this.
Will they then somehow bring
Omega into this situation?
Is Omega going to be a part
of the Mandalorian Grogu film?
Is Filoni going to put all
his main characters into
this one thing to make this super movie?
Because they got to save
this shit somehow.
It's got to be, dude, listen,
whether we like it or not,
It's going to be complete
fucking fan service here.
And I love it.
Because you have no choice.
You got to bring in fucking Padme.
You got to get Natalie
Portman in this shit.
You got to bring in Padme.
You got to bring in all
these force ghosts.
You got to bring in every
fucking body to make this
one movie to stop, you know, Thrawn.
And all this type of shit.
Because this is going to save it.
Because they have no choice.
You can't bring in fucking
Rey and the director and
say she likes to make men
feel uncomfortable.
If I say that, I'm a pervert.
You know what I mean?
So you can't bring her.
You know what I'm saying?
You've got to fix this.
So this is going to be a
complete fan service.
I think that's where we're going with Rey.
Not Rey, excuse me.
Omega's going to join the Rebellion.
She's going to be one of the
top pilots there because
that's where they're going.
Unfortunately, that's what it is, man.
Listen.
She's got to live up to what
she has to live up.
Exactly.
She's got to be that one.
There has to be one.
They take these shows and
they always have to have
that one main character
that's going to go off into the universe.
It's going to be something special.
And Omega is a strong...
female character, in my opinion,
done correctly.
Whether you agree with me or not.
She was done correctly
because she's still
innocent and pure until she
goes and sees some shit
that's going to make her rugged.
That's going to make her,
I've seen some shit.
I mean,
I would like to think that she
already has.
I mean,
she's 12 years old and she's been a
part of a conflict for how long?
And she never waned from her beliefs.
She went through so much
during the Bad Batch.
All this shit.
Let's just say a lot of it
was brought on by herself.
But being that pure hearted person.
Of course.
But look what she did.
She took one of the hardest
characters on that show.
And Crosshair.
And was able to turn him.
And that was excellent.
It's that part where
Crosshair's with Rampart, and he says,
I've changed.
Sure you have.
And it turned out, that right there,
it was like,
that's one of the best things
I've ever seen as far as
character development of
any show I've ever seen,
is the turn of Crosshair
from where he was.
Crosshair probably had the
best story and redemption
in the entire season.
It was just that damn good.
He had a better, and I'm saying this,
and I'm a fucking huge mark for this guy,
and I'm going to tell you
something that's going to
shock the shit out of you.
Crosshair had a better
redemption story to me than Vader.
Because Vader Vader Vader
Vader only redeemed himself
after he realized that he
had been bitched out and
lied to by Palpatine and
that he had a son.
Crosshair had to work for that shit.
Crosshair went through a
bunch of bullshit.
To get to the point where he
could actually twice over.
Yes.
Give me his hand and all that shit.
He went through a lot of
bullshit and sacrifices of
believing in the empire, believing that,
okay, I'm a soldier.
I'm going to finish his
mission to the point where
you realize you were alive.
Just kind of like Vader.
But all the bad shit that Vader did,
Vader had that one
redeeming moment where he
had the Emperor and he says, oh, you know,
in the remix.
And threw Palpatine to his
death and saved himself and
then became Anakin Skywalker.
Okay, that's cool.
But that's one thing out of
all the bullshit that Vader did.
Crosshair.
I got to stop you.
It wasn't just one thing.
I was watching and I was
talking to my wife about it and she goes,
you're such a nerd and I love you.
Yeah, I was.
But I was watching Empire
Strikes Back yesterday, right?
As you should.
And there was a scene where
they were freezing Han, right?
He stopped Boba Fett.
Now, hold on.
Why did he stop Boba Fett?
I don't know.
I never thought about it.
He didn't know Leia was his daughter yet.
Okay, it's not about that.
Bubble Phat was raising up
because he was going to
blast the fuck out of Chewie.
Because Chewie was knocking
everybody and doing all this stuff.
Darth Vader didn't care about Chewie.
He cared about C-3PO who was
on Chewie's back.
You're right.
He was in pieces on his back.
Chewie is only still alive
because of C-3PO being on his back.
That's why Vader in all
these years I've watched this
And it wasn't until yesterday when I,
you know, and I've seen him do this.
And I sat up here and I said, whoa,
wait a minute.
C-3PO.
I will add on.
I will add on to that.
So I know what you're getting at.
So there is a story I saw.
It was in a comic.
It was some stuff that
happened off screen during
the Empire Strikes Back.
And Vader actually found C-3PO.
And he remembered 3PO as Anakin Skywalker.
He remembered him.
And he started feeling those
emotions again.
But he had to quickly turn away.
He says, don't destroy him.
Let him go.
Let the Wookiee take him, pretty much.
So I get what you're getting at there.
Other than that...
Well, and he's got other signs, too.
I mean, look at the end of Clone Wars,
you know,
where he found Ahsoka's lightsaber.
He's looking at the remnants
of Bible first.
He has maybe a couple of moments.
Those emotions were there.
He killed Skywalker.
There's some moments in the comics,
quite a few moments in the
comic books where he has
human qualities of Anakin Steel.
It's really depending on who's writing it.
It really is.
If it was me riding him,
there is no redeeming qualities.
I don't know if y'all read
Dark Droids or not.
I have not.
He traps a Dark Droid in himself.
The Dark Droid is trying to take over.
They're these sentient beings.
And he tries to take over
Anakin Skywalker's body.
Anakin's just like you're in
here with me now dude yeah
so he literally
compartmented this guy this
dark sentient into himself
and it's there well real
quick real quick so this
past May the 4th I went to
a it was an event going on
here in San Antonio called
Heroes and Fantasies yes I
was there too I thought you were there
I was dressed as Darth Vader.
Why would you not be?
Well, of course I am.
I was a new Hope Vader.
So I would have been Empire
Strikes Back if my fucking
helmet got here on time.
That's another story.
Did it get in yet?
No, not yet.
I know you've been waiting on one.
Oh, fuck yeah, man.
Hell yeah.
I've been waiting since January.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
So I've been here working on
my armor and just doing a
bunch of bullshit.
Just to make a long story short,
I took a picture.
I saw Crosshair and I went
to him and I said,
I want to take a picture with you,
Rebel Scum.
So I said... So we took a picture together,
me and Crosshair.
You gotta post that up.
Did you post it up yet?
I have not.
Oh, come on.
I shall do that.
I have to go to work in a
little while and go slave for the Empire.
So...
But I'll be making a long
story short here.
Crosshair, like I said,
had the best redemption
story I've seen in Star Wars.
I will say in Disney Star
Wars because I can't count that.
We will allow it.
Because that's all Lucas.
Disney Star Wars,
Crosshair's redemption story,
him caring for Omega.
Something you never thought
because he didn't give a shit.
Basically, he was telling her,
you're dumb.
You are stupid.
You're too...
Everybody's not good.
It's kind of what they try
to do with Obi-Wan and Leia
and Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Everybody's not good, Leia.
Some bullshit like that.
It's the same kind of thing.
It felt more genuine here
with Crosshair because
they've gone through shit.
She was able to break
through this hard shell and
redeem this guy.
And at the end,
to see Crosshair take that
one shot at Rampart.
Not Rampart, Hemlock.
One shot at Hemlock to get him.
With one hand.
And he was able to pull it off.
And they live happily ever after.
That was fine.
A lot of people had the same,
like season three of The Mandalorian,
how it ended and like, oh,
they live happily ever after.
No,
this one felt more genuine that they
live happily ever after.
That they are finally somewhat at peace.
The Empire is going to grow, of course.
We're still in the infancy of the Empire.
But to have this, you know,
not so much of a dark moment,
but a light moment,
it was actually pretty good.
Yeah, we're, we're, we're gonna, we're,
we're working on getting to the end.
Um,
and we've already been at it for like
50 minutes on the bad batch
is fucking great.
I love it.
Um, well, that's why I tell people,
you know what, dude,
let me say something.
So I've been just busting my ass.
for weeks and months putting
together my Vader costume.
I'm talking about... Dude,
I've been watching you at
least for like a year work
on these things.
So that was just bullshit
that I was doing for Halloween.
This time now I'm taking it seriously.
One day I'm probably going
to join the 501st Legion.
So I have fucking been doing my shit,
making my armor, doing everything, right?
And just the people when I
was at the Heroes and Fans
here in San Antonio and the
people saw me come out as Vader.
That was fucking cool as fuck, man.
Just, that was excellent.
And I met a lot of cool people there.
I took a picture with R2-D2 and shit.
Nice.
It was cool, man.
You know, just to do that.
So, it's just, you say, you know,
been here basically 53
minutes almost doing this.
When you're talking about
something you're passionate about,
it's kind of like me with Vader.
When you do something you're
passionate about,
it's not really work or
time because somebody's like,
I'm having fun.
No.
You never get tired of talking about it.
No, no.
I was in that costume for
fucking four hours.
I was in that damn costume.
Nice.
I just missed you, I think,
because we came in after I
think you guys had left.
Were you guys – where were you dressed as?
Ahsoka.
I was playing with Ahsoka.
Ahsoka.
God damn it.
See, you know something?
What?
so we have are you are you
here are you san antonio as
well I am yes okay we have
got to get together and do
uh coming up in like a
month I think in san antonio
Oh, is that right?
Because I got to take a picture.
I was like, you know,
I'm missing Ahsoka and I
got to have a picture with my apprentice.
Yeah,
I've got both Clone Wars Ahsoka that
I do and Rebels Ahsoka.
And I also do Mando Ahsoka.
Okay,
so we've got to hook up and do
something because...
that that photo op has to
happen with with with the
apprentice are you gonna be
if you're going to
nostalgia con well I won't
be in ahsoka at that time
but I will be in uh june for a superhero
That's the one I was thinking of.
Yes,
that one is at the... I think that's
at maybe Freeman.
I think it's at Freeman Coliseum.
I'm not sure.
I just seen the advertisement for it.
I have to look into it.
Yeah,
they're bringing in quite a few people.
So we had GalaxyCon here
back a couple of months ago.
And I was in line to get
Ashley Atstein's signature
on my 25th anniversary Clone Wars comic.
And she's so sweet.
She's awesome.
She's the best.
I will stand in line to get
her signature like anytime now,
just because she's that
nice of a person to talk to.
And she had her mom
traveling with her this time.
Her husband was in Europe.
But I'm in line and this guy walks by.
He's got like this baby face
and he's dressed like Balin.
He looks over at me.
He's like, why aren't you Balin?
I'm like, I'm working on it, dude.
Trust me.
It's in the work.
Are you still doing Cal Kestis?
So I'm too gray now to do Cal Kestis,
unless I want to do Grandpa Cal,
but I'm going to switch it over.
I was able to get my order
that I had placed for some
of the basic pieces of Cal,
and I'm going to swap it over.
I swapped it over and asked
them if they would start
making it into a Balin.
And the lady was super cool about it.
She's like, yeah, I'm not that far.
She's like,
I've only started making small
pieces of it to start
putting it together.
She's like,
and I can reuse them into the the Balin.
So that's what she's doing.
Oh, I'm happy for you.
I'm glad you finally joining
this this cosplay community.
I know.
People look at me like crazy when I do.
In my closet,
it's just nothing but fucking
cod pieces and shit.
I mean,
behind my door is all my wigs and
my boyfriend's wigs,
so we've got all our stuff.
The queen of the short king.
I got my Jedi robes and when
I lose a little bit more weight,
I've got to.
I'm not going to be one of
the fat Mandalorians out there, but
I am getting my Mendo.
I've already got it broken down,
the schematics of it.
But that's when Zendon Lorne will be born.
Listen,
when you got all that shit on you anyways,
no one can tell your fucking weight.
You're going to have all
this stuff on you.
Oh, no, no.
I've been to a couple of
Comic-Cons and you can see the fat ones.
And you know what happens
when you see the fat ones?
Can I take a picture?
Can I get a picture with you?
Yeah, I do.
No one gives a flying fuck
about any of that shit.
I have to lose about 50 more pounds.
Well, you know something I'll tell you?
If you had given your soul
to the dark side a long time ago,
you would have shredded those pounds.
This motherfucker.
No,
I would have been fat enough to do that.
We like our barbecue, man.
You know what I told this guy?
I said,
you need to have a fucking barbecue
channel.
I want to see some.
And I just gave you an out.
I said, galactic barbecue.
Oh, yeah.
He did mention that.
Yeah.
I gave it to you.
All right.
Well,
you're up here talking about barbecue
and shit.
You think like, damn,
I'm getting fucking hungry.
I want some fucking barbecue.
Well, I'm hungry.
He was talking about
everything from the beginning.
I'm hungry.
Have some rank four ribs.
Oh, yeah.
You need to get on that, man.
Circling back with the
crosshairs and that whole thing, Frankie,
you said that at the end,
and there's a whole lot of
stuff that happened between them,
but at the end,
that scene where they were
just sitting there on the retaining wall,
and they're just sitting there,
and you can feel just the
Right.
They're at peace.
You know, I wouldn't say totally at peace,
but they're like, this is over.
We are together again and this is done.
Yeah, not so much that.
I guess peace is wrong,
but not just we can stop
and take a breather for a minute.
We don't have to.
A sigh of relief.
Yeah, you know,
I'm going to tell you how I would have,
real quick,
how I would have ended the damn show.
So,
Yeah,
that was nice to have that happy
ending that I mentioned.
But the way I would have done it was,
is that, okay,
the ultimate instrument
should have been used at
the end of the show,
which would have given
Omega a motivation to join the rebellion.
And that, to me,
would have been Vader
coming in and killing all
of the Bad Batch.
And that...
giving her what she needs,
that shit that she needs to say,
I need to stop this.
This empire is more
dangerous than I thought
because we've never seen
Vader in the Bad Batch.
She's never been there.
We haven't seen the Sith Lord.
So him showing up there,
maybe some Inquisitors, whatever.
I think that would have set
the tone for what happens with Amiga next,
which would have been she
has to fight the rebellion
and stop the Empire because
she just saw Vader kill everybody.
But she's never seen Vader.
No.
The power of what Vader can do.
There needs to be a sacrifice.
I didn't see any spoilers.
Some motivation.
I didn't see any.
I saw people like,
and I tried to save my ass
off of social media when
the Bad Batch came.
The only thing I saw was somebody says, oh,
they all died.
I'm like, oh, fuck.
They killed the entire Bad Batch?
That's what I thought.
Right?
That's what I thought.
I was like, oh, you son of a bitch.
It's like, why are you spoiling it?
And then I saw what it was.
And I'm like, damn, man.
It's like, there was no Palpatine.
There was nothing at all.
It was just like, okay,
the only one we got was Tarkin.
And he says,
we're going to divert all funds here,
shutter this facility completely.
We're going to divert all
funds to Project Stardust,
which is a Death Star.
That right there should have
been a missed opportunity for Vader.
You can't have Vader in everything,
but you can use Vader.
I think he should have
walked in with Tarkin.
That would have been legit.
Or you could have ended the show on
Vader breathing at the end
or some shit like Omega
flies off in a rebellion
and Hunter's there with
Venture and then all of a
sudden Vader just kills
Hunter at the end or some
shit I think that I'm with
you on the better bigger
motivation for her joining
I think that at the end
because we all saw it and
we all thought Wrecker was
going to die and
Crosshair was going to die.
If Crosshair would have died
fighting the shadow, whatchamacallit,
and that sacrifice that he had,
and then coming back and shooting him off,
and then him and Hunter,
I love that scene.
They capped the fuck out of his ass.
And she stabbed that motherfucker too.
Let's not forget that.
She set it up so well.
Wrecker dying, Crosshair dying,
and at the end it just being Hunter
and not Ahsoka Omega,
I think that would have
been better on us for her
joining the rebellion.
And that would have made
that end scene with her leaving and just,
you know, knowing that it's just Hunter.
And Hunter is like, you know,
I understand.
And she's, you know,
I got to do this or else
they died for nothing.
We're fighting for that.
Here's the thing.
We get a long...
From where,
so the screen goes black and
then it comes back on and
you see Omega going to her ship.
Right.
We don't know what has
happened between those years.
We do know that Crosshair
and Wrecker are both still
alive because she tells him
to take care of him.
But we don't know what's
happened to them in those
years that we don't see
where she grows up.
Yeah.
So something could have
happened in there that we
just don't see to make her
want to join the rebellion.
Did something happen to Echo
or to Retz or to somebody
else that she hears about
to make her want to join the rebellion?
I agree with Frank on that
point because there was
nothing to really motivate her.
I love the idea of having
Vader in projects.
He just elevates what he's in.
That's just the sheer power
of a Vader entrance.
Even if you're just looking at his boots,
just the breathing.
I am not a dark side character,
but I feel like they have
very compelling people on the dark side.
Again, with Darth Vader, Darth Maul,
there's a lot of charisma there.
Absolutely.
But I feel like, too,
I'm actually glad in a way
that Vader didn't show up
here because you want that
mystique to continue and
you want those uses to be strategic.
I think for me,
and I know we're going to
dive into tales of the Empire,
but I think you just have
to be careful with where Vader is at.
And then you need the story
to stand on its own.
That's the hard part.
You can't rely on everything.
And this is going to be the
true test when it gets to the Acolyte.
Can something survive without it?
Being a Skywalker, Vader.
We do get Yoda, though.
We know that for a fact.
We are going to get Yoda.
Yeah, but with Omega, it just was like,
I'm going to join the Rebellion.
I'm like, well, what happened?
What happened?
And that's what I'm getting at.
I'm here with that.
I'm here for that.
That tells me that she can
show up in squadrons that
is being developed,
and we're going to get her reason to.
for joining the Rebellion.
Yeah, but here's the thing.
But here's the thing.
That's a long ways off.
It's a year away.
Still.
These projects are changing all the time.
Remember this.
Originally,
the Rey movie was front and
center of what they were going to do.
They already had Pinewood
Studios locked and ready to go.
That stopped.
That switched.
It was now Mandalorian Grogu.
That's when this whole shift started.
They realized what we've done is bullshit.
It's not working.
They put this shit on the back end.
I will say this about... I
will say this about Vader.
I want to see how powerful he really is.
All the media we've seen
from Disney to the universe
showed him as a threat,
but we never really got to
see his full potential.
Go read the comic book.
You kind of saw that.
I get what you're saying, dude.
Like Jeff's saying,
you got to read the comics
and you also need to look
at the episode three of Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Yes.
You see right there just how
much of a badass.
Let me tell you one thing real quick.
One thing real quick that
Disney's done that Lucas can never do.
They made Vader into a
fucking horror character.
Because everything now Vader does,
he's sinister.
He's more evil than he ever was.
You kind of saw that in the
original trilogy.
But you really see it now.
And a lot of people,
and I criticized it too
until I heard it the other day.
Vader's theme song from Obi-Wan.
It's fucking fantastic
because it just sets the tone.
It's better to me than the Imperial March.
It sets the tone for Vader.
How this motherfucker is
just one thing in his mind.
Where is Obi-Wan?
That's his motivation.
It's just Kenobi.
That's his whole fucking thing.
And just knowing that,
it's kind of like Michael Myers.
What was Michael Myers' motivation?
It was Laurie Strode.
That's what he wanted, right?
Same thing with Vader.
Vader's whole thing now,
and that's one thing I will give Bob Iger,
if you're listening,
I'm actually giving you a compliment,
you jack-off.
Here's the thing.
You actually did Vader right in some ways.
You're doing Vader correctly.
That's the only compliment
you'll ever get from me.
You're doing Vader correctly.
But if you want to see more Vader, dude,
episode 3 of Obi-Wan Kenobi,
I would say the duel he had
with Obi-Wan in episode 6,
that was good too.
But to really see him, I mean,
the motherfucker choked out
a guy for nothing just to
draw Obi-Wan out.
Choked the dude out.
And then killed a kid right
in front of him.
Killed his son.
I agree with both Jeff and
Frankie D. To see Vader's truth,
you have to go into the comics.
And I grew up with the
comics and on until they
started writing the books in the early,
late 80s, early 90s.
In those series,
you really get a sense of
how much of a badass he was.
He tricked a whole bunch of Jedi.
It was like 12 to 15 Jedi
coming in there in this meeting,
and he killed them all,
wiped them all out by himself.
So in Dark Horse Comets,
you really see his...
Before he had Inquisitors,
he was on a personal spree
to rid the Earth of Jedi.
It took him three times to kill a couple.
The first one he was sent after,
it took him three times to
kill him because the suit
just impaired him so bad.
But after that,
once he got used to the suit,
fucking killing machine, dude.
He put Michael Myers to rest.
He was just so badass.
there was a book shortly
after Disney took over and
it was not I Vader or something like that,
but it was talking about
Vader immediately after the
transition into the armor.
And you actually saw him
fighting and then making
those adjustments to his armor.
And he was adjusting and
becoming and changing up his style.
And then at the end of the book,
he was Vader.
And I was like,
He did upgrade his suits
himself a few times
throughout the book series.
Real quick,
and then we'll get back to this.
Another thing you can do as well,
there is another book I'm
actually listening to on
Audible when I'm working.
It's called Dark Lord,
The Rise of Darth Vader.
That is fucking awesome.
You don't realize how close
he actually was
to, of, of, of Leia, baby Leia.
It was like how close he was.
If he had met, um, Bell's wife, like, yeah,
it was just fucking insane.
So if you want to know
anything about Vader, dude,
it's the body shit on,
on YouTube that all Vader stuff on it.
It's all comic shit.
It tells you different Vader
stories and all that.
If you want to know about Vader,
which is what I've done,
I've done a research to do
the character correctly.
Um,
You gotta go do your... It's out there,
man.
You just gotta be a student of the game.
I used to be a student of
the game when it comes to wrestling.
I'm now a student of the
game when it comes to
everything dark side.
It's out there.
And Audible is probably the
best thing on road trips to
me because that's what I
listen to on road trips.
Oh, hell yeah.
And a lot of people... And
my wife tells me all the time, she's like,
oh, you know,
because my wife is a part of
a book club and she likes to read books.
I don't think you fucking read shit.
I will listen, but I'm not gonna read.
No, I read it all.
Yeah, Starkiller.
That's true.
But it's not... We don't
consider it canon because we can't.
I mean, I love... I know.
I keep hoping at some point
that he'll just magically
show up just somewhere, somehow.
Listen, we got,
with the changes that
they're making right now at
Disney with Lucasfilm,
You could very well see.
They are into making money
is what they realize.
They have not.
I know this is straying away, Jeff.
I apologize.
No, we're good.
This is what this is all about.
They realize.
I don't know if you guys saw the report.
Disney has not made a profit
off of Star Wars since they bought it.
They have not made any money
from Star Wars.
George Lucas has.
Of course, but they did not.
They bought Lucasfilm for
$4.2 billion is what they bought it for.
They've only made a billion
dollars off the project.
This is including all the fucking movies.
They have not made any money
off this project.
You've got to bring in
characters that people want to see.
You've got to do different shit,
but you've also got to go
back to what made the original.
You know the number one
figure right now that collectors want
It is Anakin Skywalker.
That figure from the Black
Series at Revenge of the Sith,
Anakin Skywalker, it goes over $100.
It's like $165 to $175 right now, I think.
Correct.
And they just brought out on May the 4th,
they just released some new stuff.
It was Palpatine from Revenge of the Sith.
They released a three-pack
from Episode I. It was Qui-Gon Jinn,
Obi-Wan Kenobi, and Darth Maul.
They just brought out the
new Darth Maul lightsaber
from Shop Disney.
That was on there for like
$500 and everybody fucking bought them.
I got a whole wall over here
of nothing but shit.
There's a lot of money to be
made with the original.
Now,
I'm going to tell you what people
don't fucking buy.
People are not buying the
Acolyte bullshit.
They're not buying that.
I wonder why.
A lot of stores, I know like Target isn't,
they haven't got any TBC,
the vintage collection stuff in a while.
Well, they discontinued those.
Yeah.
No, TBCs are still being made.
They just made a whole bunch
of them for the Acolyte.
They discontinued them at Target.
Target's only selling them.
Oh, okay.
Target, yeah.
Yeah.
Target's only selling them.
And they just released a new
Bale and Skull that I'm going to get.
Bale and Skull for Mercenary
at Walmart exclusive.
Yeah.
They just put that out.
I'm getting that.
I'm probably going to order
two or three of them and
put them on eBay.
Okay.
If you come across them, let me know.
I should have pre-ordered it,
but I didn't.
No, they're still there.
I was at Walmart this
weekend and I didn't see them.
It's a pre-order.
It comes out in October.
I got that New Hope Vader
that just came out too.
I got that one.
Awesome fucking figure, by the way.
So I'm still missing one.
Oh, there's a Palpatine.
There's a Palpatine coming
out with a throne for Black Series.
Yeah, I saw that.
Similar to how they did
Black Adam with the throne.
Yeah.
But except one of them is
actually going to make money.
But that one I'm definitely
going to pick up when I find it.
I like finding them in the store.
It feels so good when you
find them in the store.
So Ollie's is a good place to go.
We don't have an Ollie's.
We got one in San Antonio.
Yeah, we do.
Let's see.
Where is that off?
It's off of Highway 90.
Yeah.
Military Drive.
It's the one towards
Lackland Air Force Base.
So I went over there and I
raided that store and I'm like,
where the fuck is all your
Star Wars shit?
I only found one, and it was Han Solo.
I got a Han Solo somewhere.
It might be in a box, actually.
I need to rearrange my office.
I'm going to be moving my
spawn stuff into storage.
Okay.
And then it's going to be
all Star Wars and Star Wars Lego.
Excellent, excellent.
I'm not getting rid of my spawn,
but it's going to go in
storage for a little while.
Yeah,
and they're supposed to be doing
something with Spawn, too, so stay tuned.
Yeah, don't get me started, man.
Back to the Bad Batch.
Yes.
There you go.
So we did see Wolfpack at
the midway point in this season,
I believe it was.
We did.
With Hunter and Rets and...
I think it was Rets.
When they...
I'm trying to remember what
part it was in.
It was on one of the bases.
I think it was when Gregor pulled up.
Not Gregor, I'm sorry.
The Wolf Pack leader.
Captain Wolf.
Wolf was leading them to
stop them from escaping.
That's right.
The first assassin when he
first showed up.
Once again, damn, man.
It should have been fucking tech.
Nah.
Let tech be.
So you guys aren't getting it.
It's just like fucking
WrestleMania with Cody Rhodes.
Cody Rhodes should have
fucking turned heel.
That would have been the
emotional attachment.
Oh, he's going to.
We're getting there.
I've given up on it, but go ahead, sir.
I just wanted to shout out
to the Wolf Pack because we
actually got the Wolf Pack.
Yeah.
Here's the thing.
What happened to Wolf?
What happened to Commander
Cody and all these other characters?
We never saw any of them ever again.
I feel like Cody's going to
just pop back in another
project at some point.
He really does.
They were on Rebels at the end, right?
They did show up at the end of Rebels.
See, this is where I'm...
what I'm saying like there's
one I mean so what would
say okay frankie what was
he doing at the end of
rebels when he was with uh
he was with uh captain rex
and coach when cody no wolf
and gregor with rex where
was cody at see that's what
I'm saying I don't know okay so
In between all of this that
was going on over these years,
because it's 19 years from
Revenge of the Sith through A New Hope.
So you've got all that.
Cody, remember, at the time of A New Hope,
only the 501st has any
clones left within the
stormtrooper brigade or any of that stuff.
Only the 501st has clones.
Of those, I'm pretty sure,
and they became more of a
you know, number.
They were phased out.
We may see,
and this is something that I
would be interested in seeing, you know,
a 501st, you know, something on the 501st,
which details how all the
clones are brought back
into just the 501st because
they're dying out.
And that's why in A New Hope, you know,
Star Troopers can't shoot for shit.
Because they are normal,
regular people now.
There are no clones.
They're not clones.
Yeah, we only saw, like,
when it comes to the 501st and the clones,
we only saw one of the clones in Obi-Wan,
and he was homeless.
Yeah.
Remember that.
Yes, that's the only thing.
I don't think he was 501st, though.
I think he was just a clone that...
escape remember they they
they phase out all follow
it doesn't matter what
what's calling you was
follow first or anything
they phased them all out
palpatine got rid of all of
them exactly I got that
yeah so he was that but uh
Which I think he did that
too to hurt Vader.
Because everybody knows the
501st were loyal to Skywalker, Vader.
See,
I don't think the 501st still has all
their clones up until A New Hope.
It's the other clones and
the other units and
commands that lost all of their clones.
They were either killed... Now,
in the way that they had in the EU was...
They had a life lock.
They regenerate.
They age twice as long.
So by the time of New Hope,
they were all dead because
they were too old and they
died and all that stuff.
They kind of get away with
that after Disney took it over.
But yet still,
those clothes with the 501st
was still there.
That was the only unit that had clothes.
And then they all died on the Death Star.
Yeah, I kind of like your idea, though,
concept of just a 501st show.
And I think that would
actually be kind of cool.
You know,
a 501st Vader show would be
interesting because you
hear about all these
missions the 501st went on with Vader.
They were Vader's fists.
That's the whole point of it.
And just to see these
different stories and just –
If Palpatine made the decision to just,
okay, I want to wipe out the clones,
period,
and Vader sticks up for the 501st.
Kind of see that type of shit.
But then, once again,
that would be kind of going, you know,
Vader showing empathy to, you know.
But I think that that was
the point of that scene in
Kenobi of showing the clone
down and out homeless,
begging with his helmet that
you know,
the clones were basically destitute.
And we see that in the Bad Batch.
We also see it in a couple
episodes of Rebels as well.
Yes.
Their whole thing was we
have to free all the clones
that are in this thing to
give them some sort of freedom,
to give them what we have found.
And it's that point of what
happens to the clones, this and this.
Because now Order 66 is no
longer relevant.
Right.
But I'm wondering, though,
if you can... And I wonder
if we're going to get this at some point,
because I feel like this is
not the last Dee Bradley
Baker appearance or project
we're going to get.
I feel like the idea of what
happens to the clones after
is going to happen in Rex.
I feel like Captain Rex is
going to get his own show.
That kind of ties...
If I had my wallet,
I'd say shut up and take my
money because I'm all about it.
I hope not.
We're seeing Rex into everything.
I think I agree with Frankie on this that,
you know,
give the other clones out there
some shine.
Yeah, or Cody.
Cody gets the show.
But I feel like there's
going to be something to
kind of just bridge the gap.
yeah but and rex is the most
recognizable clone other
than cody and now you have
the bad batch but people
resonate with rex so I feel
like disney they're
probably going to go that
route and you know have and
there's some you know
something I mean I know
this would be kind of like
fucking with stuff but once
again if you're looking at
it from this emotional attachment like
There are some unresolved
things you can do with
Captain Rex that hasn't been done before.
Okay,
how would Rex feel knowing that the
guy he's been fighting against his old,
you know,
Anakin Skywalker is fucking Vader?
We didn't get no kind of,
there was no closure with that.
See, Ahsoka knows.
Ahsoka found out.
I thought Ahsoka told him.
In Rebels.
I thought she did tell him.
If she did, I may have missed it.
She did, but there's that gap of time.
Hey, Kelvin!
There's that gap of time, though,
between even with her in
Tales of the Jedi,
her deciding to be Fulcrum
and him kind of doing his side mission.
There's some point where
they have to come back
together or reconnect or something.
I mean, she still has to be rescued.
And just a lot of these shows, once again,
a lot of these...
Really,
the thing with Ahsoka is if you
didn't watch Rebels,
you have no idea what the
hell is going on in Ahsoka.
You don't know any of these characters.
So it's kind of like if you
do a Captain Rex show and
you show the history of
Captain Rex and his
attachment to General Skywalker.
Just,
that's something new for the new fans.
You know, I mean, we're the old heads.
We get shit, you know what I mean?
But it's the newer people
that's got to catch up to
speed on everything.
So when we talk about these new projects,
and I love, like I said,
the concept of a 501st
censored show to show that
point of view from them.
Because, I mean, we saw the Clone Wars.
We saw that.
But just specifically this side over here,
these particular clones,
the ones that are loyal to Vader,
that would be an
interesting show right there.
And to see them, I mean,
did any of them have any kind of,
you know, resentment to the Empire?
You know, were they starting to feel like,
okay, some of this shit's not right.
You know what I'm saying?
Because, I mean, during the Clone Wars,
they all worked together.
You know what I mean?
But you have some that were just,
they were specifically with
Anakin Skywalker.
They were loyal to him.
But,
Did they?
There's a lot of shit here.
The different lies.
I mean,
like we talked about earlier with Omega,
what was her motivation for
joining Rebellion?
It's because the Empire was bad.
That's what it was.
That's another motivation.
They just, even though we did this,
we blew up Mount Tantis and
all this bullshit.
the empire is still bad.
It's still here.
It's,
they're still doing all this shit there.
I don't know.
I don't understand.
We had an accurate cartoon back in the day,
but I would still be all about it.
You know, I had a little kid.
He walked.
I was trying to take a
picture with me over there,
but she was scared to death.
And she should have been.
Yeah, she should have been.
I was like,
none of these kids are coming up to me.
Have they ever watched episode three?
Uh,
They don't know.
Did y'all see that force pull?
I pulled a drink.
I did.
That was a good force pull.
What kind of cup is that?
Seven brew.
Okay.
Yeah.
I'm like, I'm here for a new one.
If she really cared about you,
she'd have sent us all one.
It'll come in the mail in
the next two months.
We're not that far apart.
I agree with Bill on that.
Ewok show, I'm here for it.
They did have a cartoon back
in the day that was actually good.
The Ewoks were popular at Star Wars night.
I know that.
They not only had the cartoons,
they had two movies.
But you know what?
They're Ewoks and I'm not
mad and I'd take more Ewoks.
I'm here for it.
That's just me.
I'm a Star Wars guy.
Give me Ewoks.
I was dying at the trailer.
We'll get to it.
I know we're going to talk about the Lego.
We're going to talk Legos
and action figures if we get there.
It made me happy.
We may have to do a part two.
I'll be down for that too.
Listen, Bad Batch.
He owns it.
You know what, Bill?
You probably still own it.
It's probably in a box in your ass.
I watch it on Disney Plus all the time.
I've watched a couple of them.
I go back and watch the Clone Wars,
the original 2D Clone Wars.
It's the best one out there.
That's so good.
The best clone ever is Fordo, not Rex.
Fordo.
Who Rex was made based on Fordo.
ford's last stand yeah I
seen a dude build that shit
in lego and it was amazing
like he had custom fordo
lego minifigs made for it
and it was top notch but
you know it's funny how
much the the the captain
rex bad batch uh captain rex
Black Series figure goes for?
It's up there with Skywalker.
Anakin Skywalker.
It is his OG one, yeah.
Yeah, it's pretty hefty.
And I've come across several
of them on eBay.
I'm like,
am I really going to pay this
much more for a fucking toy?
Yes.
Yes, you are.
Yes, we will.
I have him and Cody in TVC.
And there's supposed to be a
two-pack with him and Cody
coming out eventually.
I don't know when they're
going to drop that one,
but I know that one's
supposed to be a drop.
What up, dude?
Real quick,
when we sum up here real quick
on the Bad Batch from start to finish,
what do we say the legacy
of the Bad Batch is as far
as what it was able to do
for Disney Plus?
Following this journey,
And following this
particular set of
rebellious clones and Omega and all that,
are we satisfied with the way it ended?
I am.
I think Filoni, I always feel like,
is back.
I feel like he's doing what
he did with the prequels,
with the Clone Wars and
Rebels and fleshing it out and is like,
we're going to make it.
Because again,
we all know that the prequel
backlash back then was very real.
I feel like, again,
with the sequel backlash,
it's deserved because I'm
not a fan of the sequels.
Nobody is.
If they say they are, they're lying.
But I think,
I think here it's trying to connect.
He's doing what he did with the prequels.
It's okay.
We brought in,
we're going to throw in
project necromancer to show that,
you know,
this is something Palpatine's
done for a while.
It's not just something new.
I think it's going to lead
into a feed into more of
what we're going to get a Mando.
I feel like we're going to
get more of an extension.
Yes.
And even some of,
if we get extra content or
that's based in the Mando
universe or the Mando verse,
I think it's going to fill in.
you know,
kind of tie in here's the
previous research.
Here's how it's going to flow into here.
So I think it's just
throwing the idea out there of, you know,
if we throw it out there early,
maybe people will buy it
for rise of Skywalker.
Who knows?
Yeah.
But it gave us new, it gave us new,
a new perspective for star
Wars in terms of, you know, you,
you have everything told
from the viewpoint of the clones and,
I'm not necessarily directly
Skywalker based.
So, I mean, you know,
it's still in the same universe,
but doesn't necessarily
kind of like rebels doesn't
directly rely on the Skywalker.
So I thought it was,
I thought it was effective.
I liked the science-y side
of it a little bit.
And we got Cad Bane.
We got Finnick.
We got some guys.
I will never be mad for
getting Cad Bane or Finnick.
It's never bad for more Cad Bane.
So I will say this, as far as their legacy,
I'll kind of look at it like Vin Diesel.
and say it is family.
I mean, I, I, I agree.
I mean, I'm just, you know something,
I'm just a sucker.
I'm just a sucker, honestly, for, um,
just the fact that, you know,
we're still getting a star Wars content.
Yes.
And that's the thing about it.
Now I'm just going to be honest with you.
I'm not,
I'm most likely not going to watch
the acolyte show.
I just, I can't get with it.
Um,
But if people like it, hey,
more power to you if you like it.
I'm not here to force
anybody to like something
or don't like it.
I'm just saying what I don't like.
Now, when it comes to the Bad Batch,
I came in late on that shit.
You know what I'm saying?
But I liked what I saw.
I liked them, you know,
Project Necromancer and all this stuff.
And I said, okay,
this is going to tie to...
sequel trilogy somehow you
know they got to go back
and write the wrongs is
what they that's what
they're doing right now
that's what they're exactly
trying to do you know I
told you we were having
that conversation frank I
told you bad batch was
better than what you
thought it was you did and
that's like but I'm such an
yes I have to I have to uh
you know nobody will argue
that frank no exactly I
admit the I'm not like one of these other
that walk around and, you know, oh,
I'm just a good guy.
No, you're not.
Fuck you.
I am what I am.
You know what I'm saying?
So it just takes me a while.
And I'm such a critic on
every fucking thing.
And that goes back to wrestling.
I used to be the biggest
wrestling fucking mark.
And
And so I learned the business.
So when I learned the
business and then worked
inside the business and all
this and know the
intricacies of how everything works,
it's hard for me to sit back and be like,
you know, enjoy something.
You can't enjoy it anymore.
You have to look at it from a different.
I went into the let me tell
you what I did.
This is going to sound like crazy.
All right.
Every time the bad batch happened,
guess what it was in my house.
That was spaghetti night.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, that was spaghetti night.
Me and my wife would eat spaghetti.
On Wednesday?
On Wednesday and watch the bad match.
That's just what we do.
Okay?
That's what it was to us.
I went into that shit as a fan.
I didn't go into it as like, oh, well,
I wish they would have done this.
You know,
playing Monday morning quarterback.
I never did that shit.
I went into it as a fan
because I was genuinely like,
where is this story going to go?
Okay?
Now, I was happy for the happy ending,
but fuck, man,
I wish they could have done so much
Because there was so much
open-ended shit that
happened with the end of
that show to where you're
kind of wondering now,
where are they going to go with this?
And you know the slate for
the Star Wars projects that are coming up,
there's nothing on there for the clones.
There's nothing on there.
It's the skeleton crew.
It's the bad – skeleton crew.
It's – what is it?
The Acolytes.
There's nothing else after that.
Let's take a look at the
comments real quick.
We got Brian who are giving
– Brian giving us props.
Thank you.
We appreciate it.
That's what I personally
like to try to do is bring
some positive and hopefully
somebody learns something
while listening to us talk
the Star Wars universe.
I like this question a lot.
I don't think Skeleton Crew
takes place within the same verse.
Is it?
I thought it took place in
Old Republic with Skeleton Crew.
No,
all this stuff that's happening right
now is all connected.
Skeleton Crew, Mando, Ahsoka,
all this shit is all
leading to the Filoni
I knew that.
I just couldn't remember if
Skeleton Crew was part of
the Mandoverse if it takes
place in the Old Republic.
The only thing that they're
coming out with that takes
place in the Old Republic is the Acolyte.
Well,
they're calling that one... What is it?
The High Republic era.
Yeah.
High Republic bullshit.
I mean, it happens.
It's in the books.
So...
Yeah,
a lot of people were talking about
those books.
Not.
Those books,
there was some good stuff in those books,
man.
There was.
The comic right now is fire, dude.
I'm not going to bullshit nobody.
We'll see what happens when
the show comes out.
We'll see what the show, man.
Let me tell you something.
I saw the Acolyte the other day, right?
And I don't know what the
fuck to think about the Acolyte.
The mask looks very Apo for me.
Because I have a bunch of
teeth on the side of the motherfucker.
So I don't know, man.
I'm kind of sketchy about it.
And I'm saying this shit now
as we're saying, oh,
I'm not going to watch it.
I'll probably watch it.
You're going to watch it.
Yeah, because I'm a Star Wars mark.
So of course I'm going to
fucking watch it.
I just have to keep up my persona.
So this is,
we talked about Bad Batch start
to finish.
Yeah.
I hate the Bad Batch.
How dare you?
That's spaghetti night for me.
How can you hate spaghetti night?
The reason why I hate the
Bad Batch is it has nothing
to do with the characters.
Hunter, Wrecker, Tech, especially Tech.
Y'all don't know how much
Tech dying hurt me.
I would have rather one of the others died,
especially that punk-ass Crosshair.
And I especially hate Omega.
And all of that is because of Filoni.
When you understand where he
got the Bad Batch from and
what we missed out on because of him...
Oh, my God.
Look up.
And this is for you,
Frankie D. Look up the Noel arcs.
That's it.
Look up the Noel arcs.
That's who that's where he
got the concept of the bad batch from.
Noel arcs.
The Noel arcs.
And when I tell you that.
frankie go and listen to the
karen travis clone war book
clone commando books I
guarantee you you will say
oh my god I hate the bad
batch too now they are
awesome the the this
cartoon took me to I loved
it I i loved what it was
doing I love what it did
for star wars I love for it
you know bring it into some
focus episode nine project necromancer um
Omega's annoying, but I loved her.
So we got to talk about Amory.
Amory?
Is that how you say it?
Yeah.
Yes.
We have to talk to her
because there is a doctor in Mando.
Who is overseeing the cloning project.
Yes.
Or who could possibly be her son,
which was one of my
favorite things I seen from the weekend.
Yes.
As far as like, cause the glasses,
everything makes sense.
Yes.
That it could possibly be her son.
And we know she leaves with
echo to go help them save
the other clones,
which is what her mission
essentially becomes is saving the clones.
Yeah.
And with her being a doctor,
that makes sense.
And it also makes sense for
her to possibly have had a
child in this guy who works
now for the Empire.
Who works in genetics being
potentially her son.
Because he says he learned
it from his mom.
Or being stonewalled into
working for the Empire.
Yes.
You know, because of whatever.
I made that connection too.
Yep.
Originally, I was so upset.
The reason why I didn't like
Omega was because of why she was created.
Yeah.
Yet another way for Thelonious to say, aha,
Bubba Fett isn't the only one,
and he's no longer special and unique.
Well, we all know that's bullshit.
Well,
that's exactly what they did with Omega.
Bubba Fett was the only unaltered, ungrown,
super grown clone, and this and this,
and now we have Omega unaltered.
and it changes all of that.
You got Alpha and Omega.
Emery's a clone as well.
Yeah, but see, okay, here's the thing,
though.
This is where you gotta get it.
This is how I look at this, okay?
So, yes,
Omega's a new... It's the new drink.
But you can't replace Boba Fett...
It's not happening.
Because that's a smaller,
that bad batch audience is
a smaller niche audience.
Boba Fett goes all the way
back to the original.
I'm with you.
Hold on.
You're not going to find a
bigger Boba Fett fan than I am.
Here's where,
and this is my problem with Thelonious.
He created Din Djarin to get rid of,
to supplant Boba Fett.
Right?
Right.
And then they created that
atrocious Book of Boba Fett,
which has made him almost –
they did the same thing to
him that they did to Luke
Skywalker in Episode 8.
When does not speak of Book
of Boba Fett on live TV?
Well, let me ask you a question.
Is that – okay,
I know the whole thing with Dave.
I understand.
I get it.
But we got to remember something here,
people.
It's not Filoni at the time.
This is the one down that's
pulling the strings here.
I saw Kathleen Kennedy
pulling the strings.
No, no, no, no, no.
So Filoni has had full
creative control over
everything in Star Wars,
not Kathleen Kennedy.
Hold on a second.
We can blame Kathleen
Kennedy for a lot of stuff.
I am blaming Kathleen Kennedy.
Okay, but for Boba Fett?
Yes.
Bubble Fett, because remember,
there was supposed to be a
Bubble Fett movie.
It was Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni.
Dave Filoni has long since
hated Bubble Fett.
That's why he did them that
way during the Clone Wars cartoon,
the original,
which Kathleen Kennedy had
nothing to do with.
When they came along, he said,
I don't want to do Bubble Fett.
Bubble Fett sucks.
Those are Dave Filoni's words.
Kathleen Kennedy ran with it
and did all this other stuff.
But it was Dave Filoni and
Jon Favreau that said,
we got someone better.
We got a real Mandalorian.
We've got this.
And that's how that whole
thing came about.
People kept saying,
are we going to get Bubble Fett?
Are we going to get Bubble Fett?
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
And so they brought in Boba Fett,
but then the way to get rid
of a guy to make him
unpalatable to anyone else
and to make your guy seem a superstar,
they gave him the Luke
Skywalker treatment.
Nobody who's seen episode eight,
and that was the sequels
where their introduction
likes Luke Skywalker.
The same thing with the Book of Boba Fett.
You can go back and you can go,
but he's not the same.
That whole, oh, come on, man.
Well, okay, to agree with you on that,
just look at what they did
in the Book of Boba Fett
when it comes to it was no
longer about him.
You brought Luke Skywalker
and Ahsoka and Grogu onto his show,
and it was no longer about him.
That was to push his other... But then,
in reality, they fucked themselves.
Because when season three of
The Mandalorian came out,
people were wondering,
why the fuck is Grogu back
with Din Djarin when he was
with Skywalker?
Because Thelonious got
control back of... They did
that because... They did
that because everything
that they were trying to do
with that disastrous book of Boba Fett,
they failed.
The only good thing is we
got Cad Bane out of it.
That live action was not well.
The only good thing about
that is they killed Cad Bane.
So here's another thing.
I want to break up right quick.
So here's the thing.
We got to think about with this too.
So they're going to do the
Mandalorian and Grogu film.
And they're putting a lot into that.
They're putting a lot into
the popularity of quote
unquote baby Yoda.
Grogu.
Baby Yoda.
We know what it is,
but to the casual Mark fan,
it's Baby Yoda.
So, when it comes down to,
you're trying to... They're
talking about this movie's
going to come out in 2026, possibly.
The earliest.
Maybe 2027.
Is anyone going to give a
fuck about Baby Yoda by that time?
All the people that have
grown up that fell in love with Baby Yoda,
are they going to still
give a fuck when this movie
comes out about Baby Yoda?
I think they will because I
think in between here and
now... Real quick.
With the sour taste of
of season three of The Mandalorian,
are people going to give a shit?
Just like this.
Are people going to give a fuck?
Because it's pretty much out there.
Luke Skywalker is back.
Are people going to give a
fuck about Luke Skywalker
after what they did to him?
Yes.
Simply because it's Luke Skywalker.
We'll see.
Let's close out the Bad Batch real quick.
So, the end.
We're going straight to episode 13.
Is it 13?
15.
Episode 15.
Omega is once again escaping the Empire.
And she does the most Omega thing ever.
Which is called Complete Chaos.
On the way out.
I mean,
she straight up releases the one
thing nobody can control.
Was it the Gila Beast?
The Zillow Beast.
They had their fucking
Jurassic fucking Park moment.
I was happy, though, for it.
Because he just got done.
That was one of the saddest
episodes of the Clone Wars.
It really was.
It was.
and but now we the zilla
beast literally has mount
tatis all to himself during
a damn thing on that island
that can mess with him I'm
like be free be free run
just like how the fucking
the the t-rex and all them
had jurassic park at the
end there you go nature
yeah I mean they even had
like a little the zilla
beast actually had like a
little t-rex of their
It did.
They found a way.
It's like Jurassic Park, man.
They had their Jurassic Park moment.
I mean,
the best thing ever is when Emery
and Echo are trying to track down Omega,
and it's just like,
follow the fucking chaos.
And they're like, Omega was here.
Omega was here.
She's like, well,
how do you know it was Omega?
Omega was here, trust us.
It's like, at this point, Echo knows, like,
if you just follow the chaos,
you're gonna find Omega.
So...
We've already talked about
the shot that Crosshair takes at the end.
I mean, Hunter is just like, trust me,
Omega knows what to do.
Just take the shot.
And it was like this perfectly timed.
She stabs him and ducks.
Crosshair takes the shot
with one good hand that barely functions.
And they kill him.
Oh, they shot him to shit.
And he fell off the fucking bridge as well,
which was even better.
So I was like,
they're scraping him up like
something's going to eat him down below.
Yeah.
Hopefully in the beast.
Yeah, that would be.
Yeah, I'm here for.
Yeah, I'm here for it.
Exactly.
And then we get to the
ending and we see a we see
Emery and Echo fly together to help,
you know,
to continue the fight with rats
and to help the other clones.
We see everybody just kind
of sitting and they take that breath,
you know, just like, fuck.
Like, finally, we can take a breather.
And then we get like the blackout,
which is where I kind of
thought it was going to end.
But then she turns on the
lights in the cave.
I'm like, oh,
what the fuck's going on here?
I'm like, oh, damn,
Omega's grown up all of a sudden.
Yeah.
And, you know, Hunter's like, what,
you think you're just going
to leave and not say goodbye?
Like the most fucking dad moment ever.
And it's kind of like, well, damn.
All right, Hunter.
And they have their little conversation.
I mean, she still didn't.
She just says the rebellion
needs pilots and like she
never really gives us the
good reason that we discussed.
But I thought it was a
fitting in because she
grows up and her brothers let her go.
So what did y'all think
about the ending of how it
actually ended?
Minus it's not really
getting a good reason for her to leave.
You know what?
She did say a little bit
more than just the rebellion.
You know, the rebellion needs pilots.
She pretty much said, you know, this is,
you know, my fight.
You know, yes, you guys,
you guys have had your fight.
This is this.
The rebellion needs pilots.
And so she let that go.
Again, I think that if it was a, you know,
more of a sacrifice and, you know,
it might have been just her and Hunter,
it would have been more poignant.
it might have hit harder.
Yeah.
But I did say, okay,
so they're going to continue this,
and we'll see Omega somewhere else.
All right.
I'm telling you,
we're going to see her in
that new series that the other girl –
is writing Rogue Squadron.
That makes the most sense
because you have to get her
out of the Skywalker, you know,
event or the Skywalker of it all, right?
You need to get her out of
there because it's going to
mess up what you already have.
We can't do,
there's nothing we can do
about the sequels unless
they completely retcon them.
So,
No more retconning.
That's the only way they're
going to... So they have to
work around that.
And so for all of that to make sense,
they have to get her out of
the way somehow.
So why not stick her in the Outer Rim?
Which is, I think,
where the Rogue Squadron is
supposed to take place anyway.
It is.
From what I'm reading, it's the Outer Rim.
And where...
We'll see where it hits up.
We may not see her for a long time.
Yeah,
it'll probably be two years at least.
I don't know, dude.
Let me put it like this.
Like I said,
things are happening right now
at Lucasfilm where they are
going back to... I know people say, oh,
let's move.
Let's move away from the Skywalker shit.
They're not moving away from it.
They're going back to it
because that's what makes some money.
This is a business, okay?
They're going to make money.
They don't give a fuck about
all the rest of the shit
that we're talking about.
They're into it for the bottom line.
They're into it to make money.
So they realize what makes money.
They're going to go back to
what makes them money.
The shit that they don't
want to go back to.
They tried with their
characters and it didn't work.
They tried with Rey.
They tried with Kylo Ren.
They tried with all these
different characters.
That shit didn't work.
They had to go back to where it works.
Now,
if you can take Omega and put her
somewhere where we can put
her out the way until we need her,
I'm cool with that.
But unfortunately right now, well,
not unfortunately for me
because I fucking love it.
They're going back to what works,
which is the prequels and
the original trilogy.
That's what they're going back to.
With that, though,
let's jump in to Tales of
the Empire that released May 4th.
Oh, let's jump in to this piece of shit.
So we got six brand new
episodes of Star Wars on Saturday,
May the 4th, which, oh, by the way,
it was free comic book day.
I hope everybody got out and
got some free comics.
Oh, I know.
Hell yeah.
I got a bunch of them.
Great.
Hell yeah.
Like, I sent that out to my unit just like,
hey,
you want to do something with the
kids that's free?
And it gives them an
opportunity to pick up
something to either color
in or freaking read.
Go do it.
Yeah.
Jeff.
I loved it.
Listen.
I love free comic book day.
It's my favorite day of the year.
And it just so happened to
correspond with May the 4th.
Okay.
I got to say something quick
because I got to jump off
here in a minute.
We're going to talk about Tazian.
Let me give a little solidic way,
as Dusty Rose would say.
All right.
And then I'll let you guys handle it.
I thought this was a
complete fucking waste of my time.
You take a character here at
Jabron in the first three episodes.
The only cool part about
that was General Grievous.
That was the only thing that
was cool about that.
He also got Grand Admiral Thrawn.
Those were the only two
things in the whole fucking thing.
You take a character I don't
give a fuck about.
And you give her three episodes, whatever.
Then we go to Beresov.
That's the one I was interested in.
That's the one I wanted to see.
Because what's going to be
that fucking showdown here
with Beresov and when Vader
sees her fucking ass after
what happened in the Clone Wars?
That's what I was waiting for.
I was waiting to see that.
But then I look at it from
the perspective of Vader,
the way Vader thinks.
He's not Anakin Skywalker.
He's Vader.
So whatever Anakin Skywalker did,
he didn't do that.
So that's what we were waiting on.
And to me, it was a bait and switch.
Because literally what you
saw of Vader in those
episodes is what you saw in
the fucking trailer.
There was nothing more, nothing less.
So that to me, it was a bait and switch.
I liked the main character simply because,
the four sisters, simply because...
of how ruthless she was but
you also knew at the same
time barry zafi wasn't
going to go to the dark
side that was she was never
a sith she was she was
trying to show well none of
the inquisitors were really
ever sith so for the first
two or three yeah I know
that they they were just
you know you know they had
to survive yeah but at the
same time you look at her and
Barazavi wanted to call out
the corruption of the Jedi Council,
she thought.
That's why she bombed the temple.
She wanted to bring this corruption.
So when you see now that
there's an even bigger evil
than what you thought,
you're either going to
become a casualty of the
war or you're going to join.
We all knew she wasn't going
to last as an Inquisitor.
It wasn't going to fucking
happen because she was still good.
Even though she did a bad thing,
she was still good.
So, in that retrospect, I like that story,
but I didn't give a fuck
about the first three.
I just didn't care.
That could have been spent
on somebody else.
Maybe on the minority on this.
But I just,
I went into it with an open mind.
I'm like, okay,
this is going to be the end.
Like, this is it.
Tales of the Empire, right?
When you put Tales of the
Empire up against Tales of the Jedi,
there's no fucking comparison.
Tales of the Jedi blows this
shit out the fucking water.
Period.
Tales of the, I mean,
When did you get Tales of the Jedi?
You got Qui-Gon.
You got all this shit.
Skywalker is just baseline.
You can branch from that.
I would love to see Anakin's
journey as Vader.
Thank you.
That's what I'm talking about.
That's what I mean right there.
You need more.
And I know it.
And I'm speaking on this
because of just my love
affair and obsession with Vader.
But you need more Vader.
Because there's more to the
character than just you know
I'm your father.
There's more to it than that.
I want to see, you know, what was this?
You know, honestly, dude,
there's lots of fan films.
I just saw one that was on
YouTube where Vader fought Vader.
Sounds crazy, I know.
But he actually fought himself.
But it was a light side
Vader who was Anakin that
was telling him that you
were supposed to be the
chosen one and you let everybody down.
So he fought himself.
So there's... Why are fans...
making better content when
it relates to these
characters than what Disney's doing.
Obi-Wan Kenobi real quick.
Sorry, Jeff.
I know.
Obi-Wan Kenobi.
There's a fan film of
Obi-Wan Kenobi on YouTube
that Debra Child and Disney
completely fucking ripped off of.
They sold the entire concept.
Everything they sold from
that fucking fan film is in
the Obi-Wan Kenobi show except Vader.
They sold it all.
So when you say Thelonious stealing shit,
yes, sir, you're absolutely correct.
They steal shit all the time.
And they still can't do it
better than we can.
I'm at the point here where I'm like,
listen,
I could do a fucking fan film here
in San Antonio and it would
be ten times better than
anything you do at Disney.
You know, you could do a fan film.
It could be me in there with
Revan or me in there with Niles.
Of course, I'll get fucking, you know,
Malgus, Darth Bane,
all these motherfuckers.
you know,
I can just call it a whole damn movie.
Just, you know, the darts, you know,
we just, you know,
going around San Antonio, just, you know,
fuck you.
You know what I'm saying?
But no, no more, but just, I just,
you know, honestly, when it comes down to,
to the tells the empire, I was just,
I was so disappointed in that, man.
I was like, I was looking forward to that.
I really was.
And I just, I didn't, I didn't like it.
They, they, they, they kind of lost me.
They really did.
It's just, I mean,
embarrassed off of school,
but this first Morgan, I was like,
who gives a fuck, man.
Well, hold on.
This is why they give a fuck
and agree or disagree
because people wanted to
know more about where
Morgan Ellsworth came from
because of Ahsoka.
So that's why the give a fuck was there.
Did they really?
Yes.
Not you.
We understand, but people do.
Yeah.
Even just the culture of Dathomir.
I've seen this shit in Jedi Survivor.
The Nightsisters.
There's a whole fucking
mission about that shit.
On Dathomir.
I've gone to Dathomir several times.
The video game aside...
What,
what happened with Elsa's the night
sisters?
Cause in Disney cannon,
there's only like three that were left.
Yep.
Yeah.
So what happened to them, you know?
I mean,
we knew General Grievous did his thing.
We had all of them.
So what happened to all of them?
Well,
this kind of shows how Grievous and
them just went and
eradicated all of them.
And not just the plain tribe
that Morgan Elspeth is from,
but also the mountain tribe
eventually as well.
But hold on a second.
I guess what I'm getting at
here is the show was called
Tales of the Empire.
She's a part of the Empire.
What's that?
She was a part of the Empire.
But I don't consider I don't
consider the Empire that
she was a part of to be the
Empire that the Galactic Empire.
But it was though.
She's literally briefed in
the Galactic Empire.
Not really.
It's not because it's not.
It's not the same to me.
So that's the thing I'm getting at.
If they would have called it
something else,
maybe Tales of the Dark Side or some shit,
that would have been different.
I don't know.
When I'm thinking Empire,
I'm thinking more stories
that relates to people in
the actual Empire.
I'm sorry.
I don't give a shit about that story.
Hold on.
So if they would have done
Tales of the Empire and had...
What's his name?
The chess guy.
Red, blue skin.
Thrawn.
Would that have been all right?
Yeah,
because Thrawn worked alongside Vader.
I mean, he was in the Empire.
But Morgan Elspeth was... This show,
Thrawn recruiting Morgan Elspeth.
Morgan Elspeth,
because she wanted revenge on the Empire.
I'm sorry.
I'm going by this.
It's just, it didn't do shit for me.
It didn't.
I gave it a chance.
I like... Okay, let me tell you like this.
I like the animation of the show.
The animation was top-notch.
Like, that was some cool-ass shit.
I just... To me,
I wasn't... Maybe I have to
give it a re-watch.
I think what it came down to
is I went into something
with high expectations.
Because I saw the trailer for it,
and I marked out for it big time.
I was down for it.
And then I think what
happened was I think the
execution for me wasn't right.
It wasn't good for me.
So would you have been more
interested in the first
half if it featured more
Vader versus Thrawn?
No,
because it doesn't have to be
necessarily Vader.
It just has to be give me something.
Thank you, the Sith.
Give me something more in
relation to that.
that's that's what because
I'm thinking we're gonna
get a tales of the sith I
feel like that's coming
yeah I mean we got in two I
mean like he just like he
just like he just like he
just like the comment just
said right there the empire
started because of the sith
that's correct that's the
entire thing that set the
shit in motion it was
palpatine's the sith that's
what it was we
Empire was already there.
The Sith decided to
infiltrate the Empire
because they were having
problems keeping and
maintaining their own power.
This is just fleshing out other stuff.
Like Bears Ophi.
I could have gave five shits
about Bears Ophi.
I only cared about that
story because I remember
what happened in the Clone Wars.
Come on, man.
Listen,
when you look at the fucking
trailer of the goddamn show,
they know what they were doing.
They baited you in to watch it,
and you watched it.
Exactly.
They baited you in.
They got their view from you.
Correct.
So that's what I'm getting at here.
It's like, okay,
if I'm looking at the
Morgan Ellsworth story, I'm like, okay,
that was cool.
Okay,
this is what I think it comes down to.
When I was watching it, I was like, okay,
this is cool.
I like the first two episodes.
But the third episode of the Morgan story,
I didn't give a shit anymore.
Because is this what they're going with?
And then when the Bears
office story happened, I'm like, okay,
When she says, you know,
you're in here for crimes
against the Republic and yada, yada,
yada.
That's cool.
But then it's like,
you wanted something there with her.
It's just for me personally.
And I think a lot of people,
because the videos I've
been seeing on YouTube with
all these big ass content creators,
same shit.
You wanted her to have that
moment with Vader because
of what happened with Ahsoka.
That whole thing, it goes, it goes back.
We didn't get that.
Yeah,
but he wasn't going to reveal the
fact that he was Anakin
Skywalker to her when he
just became Lord Vader.
But what I'm getting at is
what kind of bullshit would
he have if you had had
Vader single her out as this Inquisitor?
Because if you remember correctly,
when Vader met the Grand Inquisitor,
he damn near killed that motherfucker.
Same thing here.
You really have to go
through some bullshit to
even become an Inquisitor.
So if he would have like put
the pressure on bears to
the point where she would have quit,
that would have been a more like, okay,
this isn't for me.
We didn't see any of that.
We started going through a
couple of training sessions
and all of a sudden now they're, you know,
they're going to go for Jedi.
So I think when it comes down to me,
it's like kind of like a
buyer's remorse kind of thing.
Like I watched the shit and
I thought about it because
I have to think about these
things after I'm done.
I'm like,
That was not as satisfying
to me as I thought it was.
The animation was top notch.
The Disney animation fucking
gets better and better
every fucking show I watch.
It's like crazy.
But it's just, to me,
the storytelling just wasn't there.
And then the use of pronouns
and all that bullshit,
I didn't like it either.
Nah.
Alright, Amanda.
Listen,
they fleshed out two characters
which I'm going to be honest with you.
I'm mid on Ahsoka,
and the only reason why I
like Ahsoka is because of Ogre.
I'm sorry.
I've hated her from the beginning.
Rosario Dawson?
Yes.
I've hated Ahsoka because
she annoyed the fuck out of
me in Clone Wars.
Okay?
So we get the live action,
and even Morgan Ellsworth
was in The Mandalorian.
Episode 3 of Tales of the...
The Empire is exactly where Mando pits up.
Exactly.
Well, I knew that.
I get that.
But it's just, it didn't do anything.
Okay,
maybe because it didn't do anything
for me because I didn't
give a fuck about her in a
Mandalorian either.
Exactly.
That's what it was.
But that's just you, man.
I understand that.
That's why I said, I said me.
I said me.
I didn't say you.
I said me.
I got you.
Just because I don't like
something that's me,
you don't have to not like it.
That's what I'm getting at.
I got you.
you I got you Frankie I'm
just saying and the whole
thing with Bear Sophie I I
I could have cared less
about Bear Sophie but I
like what they did
You know, I was like, okay.
It was a good nod for Clone Wars fans.
When Vader came in, I was like, oh shit,
there's Vader.
I was happy to have Jason
Isaacs back as Inquisitor.
He's just great.
I'm here for it.
I was like, I need more Inquisitor.
Jesus Christ.
Don't get me started on how
they wasted the Grand
Inquisitor and Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Fuck.
But we're not talking about that.
We're talking about Tales of the Empire.
Yeah, I know,
and it brings back a bunch of bad shit.
I mean, I went into this open-minded.
We were getting Morgan Elspeth,
so we got Diana Lee back,
the granddaughter, well,
not granddaughter,
the daughter of Grandmaster Dan Inosato.
Yes.
And, oh, by the way,
he trained with Bruce Lee,
and Bruce Lee is her godfather.
Yes.
We also got Lars Mikkelsen
back as Grand Admiral Thrawn.
We got Katie Sackhoff as
frickin' Bo-Katan again for
about half a second,
which I still appreciated the nod that,
hey, they just called Bo-Katan for help.
So...
We could already put
together Morgan Elsbeth's story.
We really could from the
Mando and what we got from
Mando and what we got from Ahsoka.
We knew the story.
We knew General Grievous burned Dathomir.
There was three tribes of Dathomir,
I think.
There was a total of seven.
Seven.
And we know that he burned
it top to bottom.
So we knew that.
We knew that she wanted
revenge on Grievous himself.
That was her purpose.
That's why Grand Admiral
Thawne wanted to hear her
say is that she wanted the revenge.
And he still brought her on
to be a part of the Empire
and to work for him.
She didn't work for the Empire necessarily,
which she did in the beginning,
but she worked for him.
Well,
and I said that when I was watching it,
that explains their relationship,
you know, so wide or so close.
So I understand the
storytelling point of view.
I just, I guess, I guess as a, as a, as a,
you know, just, just a fan that I am.
I just, I wanted more of, of.
You wanted more empire.
Yeah.
Because you, you, because you see these,
it's like,
you see these characters that come along,
dude.
And like, nobody ever says heel or bad.
They, they always, it's always a redeemer.
You know what I mean?
The only person that's ever
stayed true to the cause in
Star Wars really has been
Palpatine and Thrawn.
You know,
there is no redeeming qualities there.
It's all about, you know,
I guess that's what it was for me.
I wanted more.
And I think a lot of people
just got sucked into the
allure when you all tells
the Empire is coming, you know, just.
When you saw that fucking logo,
when you saw Tales of the
Jedi and you saw the fire,
it burns the logo and it
turns into the Empire.
You're just expecting more of it.
This is just season one.
This is one of those where
they can bring you back at any point.
So, I mean,
would they need to hash out
another character or a
couple of more characters?
I mean, just like in the first one,
the only real story that I
liked out of Tales of the
Jedi was Dooku's.
Because I was wondering how
Dooku ended up being a part
of the dark side.
And I got
Yeah, and to me,
that's kind of what this was, though.
Yeah,
I think this is more to give content
to have content and not have, you know,
it's like everyone's
waiting for the acolyte.
Like, obviously, you know,
there's long gaps now
between the Star Wars projects,
not like it was a couple of years ago,
a celebration where they
announced everything.
They kind of have to give,
they kind of have to keep
Star Wars in the media or
in the news and keep it
going and keeping it relevant.
Exactly.
So I feel like we're going
to be seeing a series of these.
where it's going to be you
know different facets of
what we think like again
you know it's two different
facets if you will of the
empire from you know kind
of the mainstream
perspective for one part of
it with Vader coming out
even for a short second but
everybody knows if you
watch Rebels Kenobi you
know you have that
mainstream viewpoint of the
second half and then the first half is
Yes, people,
it's a little bit more
mainstream in a way because of Ahsoka,
but not really like it's
Backwater Empire.
If you really think about where she's at.
So I think you're kind of
getting these different
perspectives of difference.
I think it's just really to
kind of just give us
something to have until the
big content comes out.
Yeah, and unfortunately,
the big content might have
come up for a while,
and that's the thing.
So you have to settle for
these Tales of the Empire, I guess.
I enjoy it, though.
I know I like some of the
back history a little bit or some of the,
okay, that's cool.
I guess just, I don't know.
I guess what it comes down to me, too,
is I watch a lot of the fan
films that people come up with on YouTube,
and it just shows me people
come up there with,
and they don't have to
budget that Disney ass thing.
And they just come up with better shit.
And I'm like, you guys are Disney.
You own the IP.
You are Lucasfilm.
And this is what you give us?
That's my whole point.
Like, yeah, I mean,
when it comes to Morgan's story,
one of the things I was
impressed with is she's a bad bitch,
but she has a reason to be.
That's what I got from that.
So
I don't know, man.
It's just... It makes her
character in The
Mandalorian and Ahsoka make more sense.
Yeah,
so I guess I could... I got to jump off.
I love you guys.
Y'all keep on rocking the show.
Amanda always, Frankie D, my dude.
Yes, sir.
Keep it dark.
Oh, hell yeah.
That's the way you do it, man.
And Jeff, I will see you guys later.
Yeah, bro.
Appreciate you coming on, man.
Good luck at the barbecue
this weekend in Memphis,
if I'm not mistaken.
Next week in Memphis.
Yeah, dude.
Post some fucking videos, man.
I'll see y'all later.
Keep your head down out there.
grew up about 45 minutes
south east of memphis in
alabama so I know all about
memphis some of the best
soul food I ever ate though
and some of the best
barbecue I ever ate you
know what's funny you know
um since I've been here in
san antonio I have not
found good mexican food yet
really you're in san
antonio dude what kind of
are you tex-mex or mexican
Well, listen, I came from Cali in 2021.
Ah, okay.
No, I have not found it yet.
And I hear people say, well,
you should go to this place.
Well, listen.
I'm kind of bougie.
So I'm not going to go,
I'm not going to go to all
these different fucking places.
I'm going to stay in my area.
Okay.
So.
Yeah, I get you.
Like California,
Mexican food is definitely
different than Texas.
It's hard to, my, my boyfriend grew up in,
in Turlock.
So like kind of Modesto area.
So he's.
Yeah.
kind of the same about, you know,
he'll eat it here, but he's like, yeah,
it's different.
Like we're going back to
towards that area to go visit family.
And so he's like, Oh,
I can't wait to eat here, here, here.
So, I mean, you know,
HEB has this Tex-Mex queso dip,
which is fucking fantastic.
Yes.
The hot, the hot,
we usually get the hot pepper.
No, it's just the regular one.
Just the regular one that they sell there.
But it's excellent.
I had some O'Dell on that shit.
It's pretty good.
Yeah, that's good stuff.
But real quick,
because I got to jump off as well.
Tales of the Empire.
On a scale of 1 to 10 for me,
I'm going to give it a 5.
I'm just going to keep it right there.
Because I think they could have done more.
I think I was just looking
more for a Darksider type of show.
I hope they get it in the
Tales of the Sith.
I was actually thinking they
were going to go that route.
That's what I was expecting, too.
I kept shaking my head a
little bit earlier when we
were talking about it
because that was my letdown.
I don't want to say it let me down.
I expected more Sith and
more dark side when we
talked about the Empire.
We didn't get that.
However, am I mad at what we got?
Not really.
I wasn't mad about it.
Yeah.
care about Barriss' story.
She never crossed my mind one bit.
It wasn't an interesting
choice with how her story turned out,
that she's an Empire story.
It doesn't seem to fit in
either Empire or Sith.
Or Jedi, for that matter,
because we know she betrayed the Jedi.
So it's a weird one to go with.
I think the only reason,
and it goes back to, once again,
it goes back to,
what's the connection with
Barriss Offee in the story?
Anakin.
It's Anakin's Vader.
That's where they got you.
You know what I'm saying?
So that's where I think that
they were going with.
And I think the Inquisitor
story is also something
that should be told.
You know, those stories.
Properly, you mean?
Yes, absolutely.
Be told properly?
Absolutely, yeah.
So Inquisitor should be another show.
It could be Vader and the Inquisitors.
That could be something that
you could do there as well.
But yeah, man.
But other than that,
I got to jump off here.
I have enjoyed this.
I haven't done podcasts in a little while,
so I enjoy coming back.
Yeah, we know, man.
Hey, and like I said,
you're always welcome back here.
Yeah.
That's nice to meet you.
We got a different hookup.
You got your Ahsoka cosplay.
We got to do that picture.
Master and the Apprentice.
I think that would be fucking phenomenal.
We have got to do that.
Definitely.
Other than that,
you guys have a rest of the good show.
I am going to go get ready for work,
but I appreciate the chance
to come up here and talk a
little bit of Star Wars and
celebrate the Sith.
All right, Frankie.
We'll catch you later, man.
Same as well.
Thank you.
All right, Amanda.
Let's round out
Tales of the Empire real quick,
get your opinion,
and then we'll roll
straight to the Acolyte,
and then we'll discuss Star
Wars LEGO real quick.
Sounds like a plan to me.
So, Tales of the Empire, I liked it.
I was a bigger fan of Tales of the Jedi,
just because, again,
I liked Dooku's story.
I did like the Ahsoka moments.
I did too, yeah.
I liked her...
going into,
you're finding out how she got
back into the fight and
what inspired her and her
becoming Fulcrum,
or at least those initial steps.
You know,
I am happy we found out what
happened to Barriss because
there's a lot of people who are like, oh,
she's a Seventh Sister or she's, you know,
she became one of the
Inquisitors you see later or whatnot.
And
My question is who at Lucas
wanted to finish her story?
Because that story does not get finished.
I feel like it was a baloney more.
Because that story doesn't
get finished without
somebody wanting it at Disney.
I think it was a Filoni.
And I mean,
there was kind of a lot of
chatter about it.
I feel like that usually
comes up when there's an
Inquisitor-related show is, oh,
one of them's got to be
Barris or one of them's got
to be... So I'm glad we got the finish.
We're not up in the air.
And it was a different
ending than what I expected.
So I...
I didn't,
I was kind of expecting her to be
a little bit more dark side then.
And then that's what I was expecting.
Yeah.
And then the redemption arc
be more powerful or more impactful.
I still think it was handled
well and it's still open-ended.
So you don't know.
I felt like you don't know where she,
we don't even know if she
actually passed.
Yeah.
Cause I mean,
she's walking out of the cave
carrying her.
So we don't know if she
passed or if she's still alive.
It kind of another one of
those where it just kind of
tossed it in the air and say, Hey,
we'll see.
Yeah,
and then Qui-Gon's going to get mad
if she gets force healed.
Exactly.
That poor guy.
I know.
So that's it on there.
Let's jump into the Acolyte
because we did want to
speak on it briefly.
They did drop the final trailer.
Yeah.
Now,
I know that it's hard because it is
High Republic,
and it's a completely new
era for Star Wars fans,
and we're very used to the Skywalker.
We're going 100 years before Episode I.
Yeah.
And I mean, a lot of so far,
Disney has relied heavily
on the Skywalker saga.
Yeah.
And that's why they're
dropping Darth Vader so much.
And that's why we're getting, you know,
Luke in stuff, you know, it's,
it's especially after the
sequel trilogy and how that,
that worked out, it's taken time to rehab,
but to,
but this is exciting to me because
it's untread ground.
And that's what I'm looking forward to.
Cause the high Republic
comic book and the old
Republic comic books are
some of the best stuff ever.
out to read well like it is
good stuff for video gaming
yes and to me I i want to
see this like badly I
wanted to see it succeed
what do you think about the
cast they have with this oh
opportunity I'm like you
got yeah she's a natural
she's a natural fit she
really is and when she
popped up in that first
preview I was like okay
this is gonna work
And the marketing was
interesting because they're
still sticking with it,
but it's like the Kill Bill meets Frozen.
And I'm like, it's intriguing.
I'm here for any kind of fighting.
So I'm like, bring on the lightsabers,
bring on.
They did say we were turning back to,
you know, star fighters and, you know,
lightsabers and duels.
And so we're going to get it.
and even I feel like there's
a little bit of martial
arts type of influence in
the fighting styles like
more so now and it's going
to be the the interesting
part is the mystery it's
who's killing the jedi and
what's happening here that
was the twist I wasn't
expecting so much like the
mystery part of it I really
thought okay we're gonna
get just straight up you
know fight between jedi and
the sith and the sith are
trying to survive kind of
thing this is the the started the sith
learning that we can't go at
the Jedi and tear apart the
Jedi this way.
We have to somehow start
interjecting ourselves into
the government and into
this that leads us to Darth
Sidious and down that road
to the rule of two and that
kind of stuff.
So I got a feeling that's
kind of where we're getting
at with this and them going back to go,
hey, this is how we got here.
Do you think we're going to
get Darth Bane?
God damn, I hope so.
That's been one of those where, like,
why haven't we had it yet?
But it makes sense.
There was also rumors that
he was actually in episode one.
I've heard that rumor.
Yeah.
So we'll see.
That's what I'm really hoping for.
He's the one pulling the
strings into this.
So we'll see how that works out.
I'm hoping so.
I'm hoping we get just more backstory.
I'm excited for one of the characters,
though,
to come out from the High Republic books,
Fenestra Rowe.
I want to see her lightsaber in action.
She has a whip.
The whip.
Yeah.
I'm excited for that.
Everybody is.
How do you not get excited for that?
In comic book, it is like...
It is.
It's a high bar.
We're going bold with Vernestra.
Okay, that's who we're going with.
Let's go.
Yep, yep, motherfucker.
Let's go.
Exactly.
Now we're at less than a month away.
We're six days into May.
Two days pass.
May the 4th.
We are exactly 28 days from
you know the accolades
premiering I'm here for it
I know I mean like I said
this has taken place 100
years before the phantom
menace takes place and it's
like we have what's his
name lee jung jay from um
shit that weird show squid
games squid games yes
I didn't watch it.
It wasn't my favorite.
That's the only reason why I know.
He is the man.
He's the master in this and
we'll see how he goes.
Now today we did see the
premiere trailer for a new
Star Wars Lego movie.
And I'm here for it.
It's like rebuilding the
rebuilding the galaxy,
rebuilding the galaxy.
And I know we got to talk a
little bit about Star Wars Legos earlier.
And this movie looked so cool.
Like the way it intros is phenomenal.
You know,
I love the Legos products that
Star Wars has done.
I feel like they're very underrated,
you know, and they're just they're really,
really well done.
Like we watch some of the older ones,
you know, too.
My son and I watch them all the time.
He loves the Christmas special,
which again,
Christmas special is hands
down probably the top notch best one out.
Oh, it is.
It's so good.
And for not liking or being
as crazy about the sequel trilogy.
And when I say that, again,
no disrespect to the actors.
No, like, you know,
they did what they could.
It was a bit.
It was piss poor writing.
Yeah.
Let's just say what it was.
Exactly.
The story was not good that
they were given.
The writing was not correct.
There were so many things.
Yeah.
We can go to a whole podcast
on about that.
But but we could.
But the Lego version, the Christmas movie.
I was like, okay,
I don't even care that I
didn't like the sequels.
This was just fun.
Even if you just threw these
people all together and
just had the story and I
had no idea who they were,
I'd have enjoyed it either way.
So it was really, really fun,
really well written.
And this trailer just looked so good.
So good.
And if it follows the same
lines as all the previous
Star Wars Legos movies,
we're getting perfection
again because they are really good.
I'm going to say the two
best parts of the trailer.
One, Ewok bounty hunters.
Yes.
Okay, Bill, you might get that show.
If this works out, Bill might get that.
More Ewoks.
Well, I mean, yeah.
I mean, it's literally there.
We're going to get, you know,
Ewok bounty hunters.
I'm here for it.
In true cannibalistic fashion.
Exactly.
I'm here for it.
I love that this is almost
like spoofing all of the internet rumors.
And that's what I felt like
when it first started with
the door kind of exploding.
I was like...
Are they spoofing on everything?
They are spoofing everything.
That's like the whole vibe
is like Star Wars is
literally spoofing its
fandom in itself all at the same time.
And I loved it.
And I have to ask you if
you're doing okay after
seeing the glorious reveal
of one Darth Jar Jar.
I've hated Jar Jar Beans for
20 something years.
Seeing Darth Jar Jar Beans made my day.
Yes.
Because we've all wanted it.
We all secretly felt that he
was a secret Sith.
Yes.
There is an action figure out there.
There is.
You know which one I'm talking about.
Yes.
Lightning.
And I'm just like, finally,
they're acknowledging the
fact what we all felt for so long.
And I'm here for it.
Every single bit of it.
And they bring back Ahmed Best for it.
I'm like, you know, what a redemption.
And poor guy.
He also just got his
redemption in Star Wars
Lego with the saving of Grogu.
Yes.
And I'm with the speeder and everything.
And I'm just like, I'm here for it.
I'm so happy for him because I mean, again,
like you may not agree with the movie.
We may not agree with the movie,
but you know, it's not the actor's fault.
And I think for him, it was so personal.
And he did.
He took it very personal.
I mean,
just the hate that he himself got
was just, it's sad.
Undeserved, really.
Exactly, exactly.
So just to see him.
He did the best he could
with the character he was given.
Exactly.
And honestly,
after I went back and re-watched it,
And then I watched the Clone Wars.
Yes.
Jar Jar had moments where you were like,
God damn, Jar Jar, that's deep, bro.
Yes.
Like when he's in the temple
talking to young Annie,
he's telling Anakin like
something with like he has
this heartfelt moment with
Anakin when he's a child.
Yeah.
And it's like, God damn, dude.
I'm like that one.
Like that's very deep.
unjarjar like but it's kind
of like well damn I'm like
because he's talking about
his heart and everything
like that and he's like
that's what makes you good
is that you have a good
heart exactly and I feel
like even in the clone wars
his story was stronger like
he had a stronger art he
did he had really and it
wasn't just like a couple
episodes here and there it
was spread throughout like
we kept seeing him and he
was actually a was he the senator's aide
Or her envoy or something at one point?
I want to say yes.
I think so.
And he did excellent.
I mean, he still had his Jar Jar moments,
but he, for the most part,
he represented Tatooine the
way he was supposed to.
Right.
Like he matured into his position.
Absolutely.
It was awesome to see that
happen for him in Clone Wars.
yeah so I mean my my undue
hatred lasted for 20 years
and I'm happy to say
although I still don't I'm
not the biggest fan he he
holds at least ahmed best
holds a special place in my
heart yes I'm right there
with you I'm at best killer
and beck is a character
And I pop because I'm like,
I watched the show,
the show that he was on
that his character came from.
I remember watching that
because I was like so into
everything that was Legends
of the Hidden Temple.
Like I was a big game show nerd.
Yeah, we all were.
Because it was down our
throats with Nickelodeon
because every other thing
that came on was something
related to that.
Yeah.
And I was like,
did I want to be on the show?
Yes.
Everybody did.
If I got invited right now,
I would still go do it.
40 with a busted back and busted knees.
I'd still go.
Let's go.
I can still run this temple.
Come on.
Exactly.
I was like,
I'll punch out the temple card.
It's fine.
Catch me if you can.
But just to see him get that
moment and then here to even troll us.
dare say in like the best
possible way it's like
here's here I am I'm back
as jar jar not in a movie
but in legos you're welcome
and I'm darth jar jar
you're welcome everyone I i
was like I'm here for it I
i that I was seeing I seen
it and I was like my guy
that that's what we've all
been waiting for
All right.
Let's let's round it out.
We this lasted longer than I anticipated.
I was planning for like 90 minutes,
but I won't say no to
talking about Star Wars.
What do you got coming up, Amanda?
I know you got a busy week coming up.
I do.
I am going to be record.
Of course,
we record every Friday or every
Thursday for socially distanced.
And of course you can catch
that on the pop break.
And so we have our pop
break.com website actually
socially distance does have
its own separate feed on
all streaming platforms,
but we do have the pop
break feed as well where
you can find several of our
other podcasts, including.
Yeah,
we're all combined now right on one
streaming service.
Yes, except socially distanced.
It still has its own.
But all of our other podcasts are now,
instead of being Pop Break
TV and Pop Break Today,
we are now one big happy
place in the Pop Break,
including my second podcast,
which is Anime Pop.
And so, yeah,
so this week we've got our
post-NFL episode coming up
on a post-NFL draft episode
on socially distanced.
We'll be covering Doctor Who.
Of course,
we'll be covering The Acolyte
when that drops next.
and House of the Dragon.
Of course,
we know we'll have you on for
the Acolyte too.
So excited.
Yes, absolutely.
I'm excited to come on.
I think I announced that last week.
Yeah.
Last month.
Yeah.
Last week I announced that
I'd be on there with y'all
talking Acolyte.
Yeah, it's going to be great.
So we're looking forward to it.
We're going to have our, our X,
we're going to touch,
touch base on X-Men 97,
which has been fantastic by the way,
if you're not watching it.
So watch it.
It's great.
We have two more episodes.
So two more weeks left.
Yes.
And I'm going, none of us are,
none of us really are.
but we will be doing a show here.
I don't know who from the
council will be on yet.
I will be reaching out to people,
but I do know in two weeks
we will be closing out at
Smith 97 here at USDN.
Okay.
I don't,
I don't know what your schedule is
looking like yet,
but don't be surprised when
you get a message you and
bill and some more people.
Cause I want to,
Now,
I want to do a nice panel for X-Men 97.
Give it the love that it deserves.
It's fantastic.
It's honestly one of the
best things out there.
It really is.
And I'm not going to lie to
anybody right now.
If you haven't watched it,
if you tune in to USDN,
when we bring up X-Men 97...
We are dropping fucking
spoiler after spoiler on that show.
So if you ain't prepared,
don't watch that show.
Just go watch it.
Drop what you're doing and go watch it.
Go watch it.
That last episode.
Jesus Christ.
That set up for that three
part ending is like.
Oh, it's so good.
Then we got another one
coming on Wednesday.
God damn.
Because I was like,
my Wednesday was come home.
X-Men 97.
Bad Batch.
rampage like that was it you
still there hello all right
I think we may have lost
amanda but that's okay I
know she needed to go but
just know smin97 is going
to be coming up here soon
For everybody who stayed with us,
thank you for tuning in to
tonight's episode.
We'll be back again, like I just said,
in two weeks with X-Men 97.
We're going to have a whole panel.
We're going to drop spoiler
and we're just going to
have a lot of fun with that.
And then after that,
I think we may be doing
just our normal show there after that.
with um talking nerd news
and that kind of stuff I'm
going to have a few
interviews lined up as well
with some comic book
artists coming up I want to
send a big thank you out to
dfpm for giving me a
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