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Welcome to the Catholic
School Leaders Podcast.

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My name is John Mahalio,
president and founder of

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Elementary Advancement Solutions.

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The goal of this podcast is to
connect Catholic school leaders Bye.

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from across the world to
grow Catholic education.

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Visit us at www.

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elementaryadvancement.

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com to see how we can help you
make advancement seem elementary

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at your Catholic school.

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Well, today I want to talk to our new
Catholic school leaders out there.

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Now that might mean a Principal, an
Assistant Principal, an Advancement

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Director, a Dean, Recruitment Directors,
Athletic Directors, any leadership role

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in your school, talking to you today.

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Now maybe you've been hired to lead
a school for the first time, maybe

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you're shifting to a new school, maybe
you're leading a Catholic school for

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the first time after spending a lot
of time in a public school setting.

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Whatever your story is, you're now
in charge of a Catholic school, or a

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particular area of a school, and all
the responsibilities that come with it.

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So we're going to be talking
about those things today.

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Before I get into this, I want to say,
please, please, please, a quick favor

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to ask you, if you enjoy this podcast,
if you benefit from this podcast, Please

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be sure to like it, subscribe, leave
a review, share it with other leaders.

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Maybe you know a principal who is
just starting out this year, or

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an Advancement Director, somebody
who's in a new role to Catholic

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education, and uh, share it with them.

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By doing this, it helps us reach other
Catholic school leaders just like you,

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which helps us to grow Catholic education
together, and that's a win for everybody.

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So I can't say thank you enough for this.

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Uh, if you know somebody, like I said,
please share it with them, like it,

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and if you have 30 seconds to drop
a quick review and, uh, let others

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know how much you enjoy it, it just
helps us reach a wider audience,

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and that's an amazing thing to do.

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So, you're new in your role as a
Catholic school leader, and I want

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to first and foremost say this.

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Congratulations!

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Taking on a leadership role in
a Catholic school is a vocation.

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It's more than just a job, and you
said yes to this vocation to lead the

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future of your school, which is amazing.

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It shouldn't be taken lightly.

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So first and foremost, let's
celebrate for a minute.

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Congratulations as you step into
this new role in your school.

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Second, I want to say thank you.

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Uh, by saying yes to this vocation,
saying yes to this new role, you

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are taking on that challenge of
Catholic education to keep that

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light shining for future generations.

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And so Thank you for saying yes to
this vocation and your new role at

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the, at the school that you're at.

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I'll be praying for you for nothing
but success, uh, and just, to just

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have Christ's light shine through you
and, and just to keep that light of

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Catholic education alive and well.

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So, congratulations.

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Thank you.

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That's the first thing I want to
say to you because I know that the

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business is going to pick up really
quickly for you if it hasn't already.

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and so let's just take a minute
to congratulate and to say

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thank you first and foremost.

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So here's some things that as I
look back, I've led three different

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schools, things that I learned
from stepping into a new leadership

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role that I hope will benefit you.

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And I'll try to make these so
that they are applicable to

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no matter what role you're in.

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Uh, but please know that my
responsibility and my vocation, my

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job was as a building principal.

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And so the reflections I'm going
to give here are kind of going

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to be from that perspective.

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But I will incorporate it into some of the
other roles within the school community.

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So here's some things I learned from
taking over a school and from leading

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a school that I think are going to
really help you in your new role.

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Number one, get to know
the culture of your school.

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First and foremost, get to know
what your school community is all

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about because By now, you've gone
through the interview process, you've

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answered all the questions, you've
met with the committees and the search

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committees, and they've told you what
a great place their school is, and

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it, and it likely is an amazing place.

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But you're going to learn that,
what's important in the culture could

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either be something that's really,
really great, or something that

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really needs to be improved upon.

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and so getting to know the culture of
the school is something that, I can't

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stress to you enough, asking people,
sitting down with people, talking to

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people, just asking a lot of questions.

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And so, I would recommend getting
to know the culture, Make yourself

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accessible and available to people,
that, that want to sit down with you

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and that want to talk to you and ask
them lots of questions and then listen.

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If there's one piece of advice I can
offer you, it's listen, listen, listen.

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God gave you two ears and one mouth.

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Do twice as much listening
as you do talking when you're

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learning about the school and the
culture at your school right now.

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Learn So that you can know where
those areas of focus are going to

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be, and so it helps you get caught
up to speed as quickly as possible.

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Identify some easy wins as you're walking
into this, as you're meeting with people,

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as you're asking a lot of questions,
as you're doing a lot of listening.

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I'll bet you that you're going to have
some repeating and reoccurring themes.

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that keep coming up over
and over and over again.

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Maybe it's something like, hey,
our carpool's not real smooth.

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Maybe it's something like, hey, our
master schedule isn't real great.

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Maybe it's something like,
nobody's ever here on time.

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I don't know, whatever the case
might be, but I'll bet you that

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you're going to find some reoccurring
themes over and over and over again.

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Now, certain ones might take
you some time to get to.

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you know, hey, we need to build a
new gym and that's going to take,

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I don't know, 25 million dollars,
whatever the case might be.

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Obviously, unless you have somebody
that's a really generous donor on day

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one, it's probably going to take you some
time to get that 25 million for that gym.

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But, I'll bet you that there are some easy
wins out there and low hanging fruit out

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there that you can jump on right away.

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To get yourself some wins to show
people that, hey, I'm listening, I'm

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taking these things seriously, and
I'm looking to improve our school

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to make it better for everybody.

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Now, one thing I want to caution
you on is make yourself available,

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make yourself accessible.

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But, something I will caution you on,
and it's not to, uh, look at the negative

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or anything like that, but I guarantee
you that you will have somebody who just

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has to get your ear right away They just
have to talk to you about something.

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They just have to come see you
to tell you everything that was

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wrong with the school before.

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be weary, listen, respect their opinions.

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But, uh, sometimes that's somebody
that is looking to create drama

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within your community and somebody
that you need to be wary of.

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Not always, but I have found
that sometimes that's the case.

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And so, uh, just know that you're
going to do a lot of listening.

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You're going to want to do a lot of asking
questions, but you want to make sure

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that you're So, protecting yourself and
not listening to the wrong person right

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off the bat, uh, that's why I say make
yourself available and spending time with

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a lot of different people, because that's
going to give you a lot of different

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perspectives to hear what themes keep
coming up over and over and over again.

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Now, I mentioned earlier in
the podcast, the website, www.

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elementaryadvancement.

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com.

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If you go there, you can get a free
download, our six keys to create

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a successful Catholic school.

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Uh, it's yours for free.

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Um, hopefully it'll help you.

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I think it's a really great tool because
it really gives you, uh, Some areas

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to focus on the six characteristics
that I believe every strong Catholic

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school has, but also allows you to look
at some questions, maybe to, uh, some

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key questions to evaluate where your
culture is in that particular area.

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So, um, if you go to www.

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elementaryadvancement.

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com, uh, you can click on the,
the link there, it's a little pop

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up, it'll say, Hey, receive this.

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you can, you can get that for free.

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Again, uh, I think it's really helpful
to you, especially new, being new to

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your role, as a leader, no matter what
it is, because no matter what area

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you're focusing on, whether you're a
principal, president, uh, advancement

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director, assistant principal, these
things going in, in these key areas

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that you have as a school, make your
school a stronger place, which is then

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going to make your job a lot easier.

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and your role within the
school, be more effective.

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Um, if your school is doing a great
job in these six areas, your job as

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an Advancement Director is going to
be to tout those areas, those things

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that you're doing in those areas.

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Uh, if you're recruitment and you're
trying to recruit new students,

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knowing where you sit in these areas
is going to be something that's

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really, really beneficial to you.

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Because it's areas that you
can tout to new families.

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So check it out, elementaryadvancement.

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com, and you can get that for free.

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It's something I think you'll be
really helpful and really a great

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tool to have in your back pocket.

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the other thing I would say to
you, or the next thing I guess I

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would say to you is, Don't assume
that all the schools are the same.

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chances are that you may have
come from a different school.

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Maybe you've spent time in another school.

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Maybe you were leading a different school.

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Maybe it was a public school.

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Maybe it was another Catholic school.

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Maybe it was a private school.

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Uh, maybe you were an
assistant principal someplace.

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Whatever the case might be, But you know
what your culture was all about there.

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Don't assume everybody's
culture is the same.

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Don't assume that, uh, everybody's
experiences are the same.

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that's where that listening piece
of things come in, and really

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hearing what others have to say.

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to know where your strengths
can really lend itself to making

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the school a better place.

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It also kind of gives you that opportunity
to identify the areas that maybe you're

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not, you don't necessarily have the
strengths in so that you can try to get

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connected with others who can give you
some perspective on those strengths.

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You know, that's a great reason.

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Our mastermind groups that we
do are a great reason for that.

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Hey, I know how to do this, but
I don't know how to do this.

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And I'm being asked to do this.

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Does anybody have experience with this?

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It's a great way to get
connected with people.

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Maybe you have a support system
within your own diocese that

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you can ask questions to.

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Whatever the case might be, but don't
assume that all schools are the same

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and don't assume that every school
is dealing with the same issue.

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You may have come from a school that
had Uh, high tuition rate and, and

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no, uh, student assistance being
given for tuition to a school where

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75 percent of your families are, are
dealing with tuition, uh, assistance.

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And so, each school has
its own unique challenges.

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as I've always said, that when things
are, are great, they're probably

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not as good as you think they are.

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And when things are not great, they're
probably not as bad as you think they are.

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Um, know that the, somewhere in the middle
there, and something that you're always

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striving to get better, you're but don't
assume that all of the schools are the

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same, uh, in terms of the challenges,
in terms of what it is that they're

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dealing with because those preconceived
notions that you have, maybe, uh, those

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scars that you're carrying from your
last school, bringing them to your new

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school immediately could put you behind
the eight ball and, and, and almost

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present as, as making you unapproachable,
which is certainly something that you

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don't want to do in this new role.

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If there's one partnership
that I can tell you.

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to make sure gets off on
the right foot immediately.

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Uh, and chances are that in this
new role, uh, and especially for

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principals, I'm going to talk to you,
especially for principals, is that

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relationship and that partnership
that you have with your pastor.

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That is something that the two
of you should be lockstep on

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everything that's happening.

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Uh, making an opportunity to sit down
each week with, with this person to,

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just talk about what's going on with
the school and, and, and how things are

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going, challenges that you're facing.

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Insights that they may have, um,
what direction do they want to see?

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What's the vision that they
want to see for the school?

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Um, but just creating that
open partnership, those open

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lines of communications early.

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I guarantee you, if you show me a
school that is succeeding, I will show

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you a pastor and a principal that are
walking lockstep with one another.

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Establishing that partnership with your
pastor is one of the most important

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things you can do as a building principal.

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If you're in a role of assistant
principal, dean, development director,

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advancement director, recruitment
officer, whatever the case might be,

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establishing that partnership with your
building principal or your building

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president is equally as important.

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They are the person that's going
to be supporting your goals.

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They're the person that's
going to be supporting the

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initiatives that you're doing.

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Thank you.

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as well as you're going to be
bringing forth the initiatives that

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they want to see you, uh, doing.

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Maybe it's an enrollment goal.

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Maybe it's a development goal.

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Maybe it's a fundraising goal.

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maybe it's a, putting a new sport
into play, whatever the case might be.

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Establishing that partnership with either
your principal or your pastor is something

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that cannot be stressed enough that doing
that early to establish trust, to build

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that partnership, not a relationship,
but a partnership between your role and

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that leadership role is something that
will pay off for you in the long run.

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But get on that early.

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Don't wait for things to get
rocky and things to, problems to

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exist before you start to do that.

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Get on it early.

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Get on the same page early.

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Create that time.

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Uh, for me, as a principal, I would want
to meet with my development directors,

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advancement directors, recruitment
directors, at least once a week for a

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minimum of a half hour to 45 minutes
so that I could be supportive of them.

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But they would also be able to keep
me in the loop of the things that

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we were working on together to meet
the longterm goals of our school.

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So that really comes into play of what you
want your schedule to look like each week.

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And we can do a whole other episode on
time management and things like that.

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But the bottom line is establishing
for our principals, establishing that

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partnership with your pastor right away.

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And for those other school leaders,
establishing that partnership

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with your principal right away
is something that's only going to

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help you be better in your job.

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I think one of the biggest things for
new leaders is that they are sometimes

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afraid to invest in themselves.

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And they're afraid to admit
that they don't know everything.

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And so my next piece of advice to you is,
don't be afraid to invest in yourself,

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and don't be afraid to get better in the
areas that you want to get better in.

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there's a lot of opportunities out there.

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There's conferences.

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There are, I had the chance to attend
the NCEA conference this past year.

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I know the next one is, I think
it'll be in Orlando this coming year.

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It was in Pittsburgh this past year.

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If that's something you're able to
do, to, to attend something like that,

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to make connections and to, um, hear
some first class speakers, all about

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Catholic education, uh, invest in
yourself, make yourself better in areas

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and continue to grow and to learn.

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Uh, I mentioned before about
the mastermind groups that,

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uh, I run for principals.

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We have one starting here in the fall
for new principals that we're going to

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have where you're able to just to connect
with other new principals and really

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get a network going across the country
to help you be better in your job.

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your development director, advancement
director, coming together to learn

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new strategies, uh, from others.

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Getting connected with people to make
yourself better and investing in yourself

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is going to be an investment in your
school community which is only going

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to make your school better, which is
going to make you better as a principal.

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And so, don't be afraid to
put on your oxygen mask.

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Don't be afraid to invest in yourself
because when you invest in yourself,

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it says to others that it's okay
for them to invest in themselves.

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But that's just going to make your
school a better place for your students,

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for your families, for your faculty.

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It's going to grow Catholic education.

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So Get better.

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Don't be afraid to invest in yourself.

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And just because you say, Hey, I
need to get better in this doesn't

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mean you're not good at your job.

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It just means that you want to get
better in areas and we all have them.

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We all have them.

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And so, uh, invest in yourself.

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Don't be afraid of that.

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like I said, there's a lot
of opportunities out there.

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So, I think another one is identifying
the core values of your school.

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Now I'm going to say this so that
I'm going to slow down on this one

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and say what are the core values
at your school versus what do

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you want the core values to be.

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Okay, for example, a core value at
your school might be that everybody

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comes late and everybody leaves early.

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Okay.

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That's not one that you
really want to, to have.

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maybe it's not a core value, but it's
a, it's a trait, I guess I should say

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of, of teachers, but maybe the core
value that you want is to establish

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professionalism and that trait that
everybody is having of leaving early,

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cutting their late, whatever the case
might be, is something that you've

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identified as something that is a problem
with professionalism or something that's

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a core value maybe in a negative way.

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So when you're looking at your core
values and you ask people, what

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are our core values at our school?

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be sure to get clarification of is
that a core value or is that what

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you want the core value to be?

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It's going to tell you something
either way about your school community.

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If it's something everybody says,
Yeah, we'd really like this to be it,

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but it's just not there right now.

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It's going to tell you just as
much as if you say, listen, this

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is a core value of your school.

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And, and I'm going to say this
when it comes to core values,

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and I'm not saying this to upset
anybody or anything like that.

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If your core value is we all love and care
for each other because we're a Catholic

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school, to me, that's a Catholic school.

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That's what you're expected
to be as a Catholic school.

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That better be part of your core values.

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But to me, that's like saying we
teach the faith in our school.

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That's an understood for me.

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What else do we have that's a core value?

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And if that's not one of your core values,
put that on your list as something that

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you need to take note of and bring to
your school community is making sure the

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faith is something that's very much a part
of your school and making sure that your

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community cares about their kids, that
your kids know that you care about them.

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So, identify those core values.

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What are they versus
what you want them to be?

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As a new, uh, administrator, as a new
leader walking into a school, I remember

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one of my assistant principals used
to tell people when they were coming

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in that you gotta earn your stripes.

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And I think this is so true that
sometimes we walk in and maybe we've

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been a principal for 25 years somewhere.

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Maybe we've been a
principal for 15 minutes.

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Maybe we've had a lot of
success as a teacher somewhere.

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Maybe we've had a lot of success
in another role as a coach or

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whatever the case might be.

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And And we're bringing this success,
that we've had in our previous roles to

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our new, uh, vocation and our new job.

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But you still have to earn
your stripes as a new leader.

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And so that's great that
you can rely upon that.

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That's great that you can
build upon those experiences.

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You can rely upon those experiences
to, uh, help you through your new role.

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Um, but, you know, people might
not know you all that well.

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And, you know, sometimes within a
school community, maybe you were

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the, a great teacher who's now been
assigned or now been promoted to

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be the principal of the school.

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you were a great teacher, but now
you've got to earn your stripes

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as the leader of that school.

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Uh, and there's challenges
that come with that.

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Now you're responsible for overseeing
and, and managing and leading

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people that were colleagues before.

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And, and that's, It can be
great and there can be some

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challenges that come with that.

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Um, but either way, you're going to have
to earn your stripes as a new leader.

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maybe you're moving into a role of
a, of an advancement or development

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director or recruitment director.

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Uh, and people are looking at
you going, well, why did that

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person get the job and not me?

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Um, and, and there's an immediate, uh,
Black Cloud over your, your office from

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somebody in the school because they didn't
like it that they didn't get that job.

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you gotta earn your stripes, you gotta
show results, and I think by, again,

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going back to partnering with the key
leadership people within your school

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community, whether it be your pastor or
your principal, is only gonna put Those

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things to rest and it's just going to
show how good you are and how what an

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amazing choice you were for this job.

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but also help you to overcome those things
quickly by forming that partnership.

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Um, the naysayers are
going to be the naysayers.

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You can't do anything about that.

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Uh, there was some great advice that Kirby
Hasselman gave on a marketing podcast.

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They did a few weeks ago a few months ago.

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talking about how to deal
with those kind of things.

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Uh, it's a great listen so recommend
that but You you, you do you.

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Partner with your principal, your
leadership, your pastor in moving

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and advancing the goals of the school
forward, um, which is just going

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to make the school a better place.

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I said this one before, and I'm
going to say it one more time

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because I think it bears repeating.

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Listen, listen, listen.

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Uh, do a lot of listening as a new leader.

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Learn about what things, how, how
were things before you got there.

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You're going to see that the
previous, person in your role, if

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your role is not a brand new, position
at your school, that there were

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things that maybe went very well.

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They're going to talk about things
that maybe didn't go so well.

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Some opportunities for improvement.

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what are those things?

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Learn about those things.

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If you're walking into, this is not
uncommon, unfortunately, but if you're

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walking into a, uh, role where you're
a fundraiser, you know, head of the

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fundraising officer, uh, maybe the,
the person that was before you wasn't

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exactly a good steward of, of the money.

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Maybe there were communication issues.

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Maybe there were, reporting
issues, whatever the case might be.

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and you've got to build
that trust back up again.

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And so.

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Listening, listening, listening, and
learning the story of your school,

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um, and knowing, just where those
opportunities are for you to make

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improvements and get those easy
wins with that low hanging fruit is

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something that I can't stress enough.

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So, do a lot of listening, do a lot of
talking, do a lot of asking questions.

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I remember a former, um, A boss of
mine told me once, he said, ask as many

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questions as you can within the first
couple of months that you're in this job.

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Because if you ask them in the first
couple of months that you're in the

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job, people are going to think, wow,
this person is really, really sharp

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and they really want to get better.

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If you don't ask those questions,
everybody's just going to make

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the assumption that you know it.

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And when it comes time a couple months
later that you don't know it, and

00:22:05.017 --> 00:22:07.637
you're asking those questions that
you should have been asking before,

00:22:07.637 --> 00:22:10.037
people are going to say, how did this
person even get this job if they don't

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know the answers to these questions?

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So don't be afraid to ask as
many questions as you can.

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At the beginning to really help you
get to know your school culture and to

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really just get to know, you know, the
history of your school because, you

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know, you're taking over a school that
might be a few years old, might be 100

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years old, and you're now responsible for
stewarding that for the next 100 years.

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Uh, so listening, listening,
listening goes a long way.

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Establishing those partnerships
with your key leaders on

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campus, is so very important.

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The last thing I'm going to tell you is,
I think, uh, I always say this, I appeared

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on a podcast a couple months ago with,
uh, President Jethro Jones, and I told

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him that I felt a lot of Catholic schools
come down to three, three words, okay?

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Now, obviously, I'm going to just
say that the Catholic faith is, clear

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far and away the reason that we exist
in terms of being a Catholic school.

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So when I say my three C's, uh, that
Catholic faith piece to me is overlying

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and overarching on all of these areas.

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So, but if you have Clear communication,
you have consistency in your policies,

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and you have great curb appeal.

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People are going to see that, and it's
probably going to knock out 90 percent

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of what you're doing as a school, and
give confidence in you as a leader.

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So being a good communicator,
communicating with your families,

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communicating with your faculty,
what's happening at your school.

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If you are responsible for the
advancement work at your school,

00:23:39.009 --> 00:23:40.989
communicating where dollars were spent.

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I just did a great podcast recently about
communicating ways that, uh, how you

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can communicate, how funds were used to
give people confidence in your office.

00:23:49.791 --> 00:23:54.091
just honoring what people's requests
are, creating trust, and just over

00:23:54.141 --> 00:23:58.198
communicating what's happening
at your school is so important.

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Being consistent in your policies.

00:24:00.484 --> 00:24:03.049
you know, we're going to let this
person do this, but not this person.

00:24:03.049 --> 00:24:04.379
We're going to do this, but not for this.

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there might be a reason that you're
creating inconsistencies in your

00:24:08.829 --> 00:24:10.259
policies that nobody needs to know about.

00:24:10.259 --> 00:24:11.989
Maybe your family has
a special circumstance.

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That's not what I'm talking about.

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But when you're giving different rules for
different people, uh, this person gets a

00:24:17.459 --> 00:24:20.749
uniform violation, but this one doesn't
and they're doing the exact same thing.

00:24:21.144 --> 00:24:25.214
Uh, that consistency in how you
operate as a school to keep people

00:24:25.214 --> 00:24:28.804
from guessing how you're running
your school is so important.

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And so, consistency, curb appeal,
communication, the last one being the

00:24:33.604 --> 00:24:37.703
curb appeal that I just mentioned, what do
people see when they come to your school?

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When people walk up for the first time,
this was a great exercise that I did

00:24:41.828 --> 00:24:44.948
with my leadership team was I took them
outside and I said, I want you to walk

00:24:44.948 --> 00:24:46.608
up to our school for the first time.

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Don't say anything, but just
write down what you see.

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Look around like you're looking
at this school for the first time.

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Is the sign that welcomes people
to the school old and rusted?

00:24:57.598 --> 00:24:58.688
Does it need to be replaced?

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When people come up and they ring the
doorbell or what are they greeted with?

00:25:02.678 --> 00:25:03.948
Or what do they see?

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Do they know it's a
Catholic school right away?

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What's that curb appeal that people have?

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Think about a new family who's visiting
your school for the first time.

00:25:12.918 --> 00:25:16.048
They may be on your campus for 15
seconds and it doesn't matter what you

00:25:16.048 --> 00:25:19.978
show them because the curb appeal that
they were met with when they pulled up

00:25:19.978 --> 00:25:23.588
to the school is something that really
turned them off and they said, Yeah,

00:25:23.638 --> 00:25:25.918
we're probably not going to do this, but
we're going to go on the tour anyway.

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You're playing from behind at that point.

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Communication, consistency, and
curb appeal are going to help you

00:25:33.194 --> 00:25:37.274
in so many ways, no matter what your
responsibility is at your school.

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These are just a couple things, like
I said, that, that I have learned,

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if I can help you in your role as a
principal, as an aspiring principal,

00:25:45.241 --> 00:25:49.556
as a development director, as a
recruitment director, this is why I exist.

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This is why my, my company exists at
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com.

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There's a lot of resources on there.

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There's some articles on there.

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very much.

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Uh, old podcast, but also times that
you can set up just to set up a consult

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with me, uh, at no charge, just to see
if I can help you in what it is that

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you're doing as a school community.

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Um, that's the goal of this is to
really help grow Catholic education.

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I just, was so saddened to see so
many Catholic schools closing, uh,

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over the past 10 years and, and wanted
to make sure that, you know, moving

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forward that I took an active role in
making sure that we could help and.

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make Catholic schools thrive, not
just survive, but we want to see them

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thriving again in your community.

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So if that's something I can help
you with, if you're new to your role,

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um, there's a lot of opportunities
out there, that I'd be happy to

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help you with and talk to you about.

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Uh, like I said, mentioned about our
mastermind groups that are out there.

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It's a great way for you to get connected
with leaders all over the world, not just

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in the United States, but over the world.

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to learn new strategies and new
skills and just bounce ideas off of.

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It's a great thing to do.

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Our mastermind groups are rock stars.

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So big shout out to them.

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you know, hey, if that's something
that you think could, could be

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in your future, reach out to me.

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Let's set up a time to do a virtual cup
of coffee on zoom and hear more about

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your school and what your goals are.

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So thank you so much again for listening.

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Again, I remind you that if
you like this podcast, if you

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think this is something that.

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Would benefit others.

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Be sure to like it, subscribe, uh, leave
a comment, leave a, uh, a review on there,

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or share it with others, share it with
colleagues, whatever the case might be.

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Uh, I want to say thank you
in advance for doing that.

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praying for you in this new role.

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You've been blessed.

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said yes to a wonderful, wonderful
vocation of working in a Catholic school.

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And I promise you it's something that's
really, really rewarding and something

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that is just going to fill your heart.

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So, for all of our new leaders out
there in Catholic schools, we're praying

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for you and, uh, wish you nothing but
success in the year moving forward.