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If you need more accurate transcripts of an episode for ADA purposes, please contact Anthony Hanson - hans4022@umn.edu. 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,480 I'm Ryan Miller, Crops 2 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:03,480 Extension Educator earlier this morning. 3 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:04,760 We recorded in an episode of 4 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,200 the Strategic Farming Field Notes program. 5 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,140 Strategic Farming Field Notes is 6 00:00:09,140 --> 00:00:10,600 a weekly program addressing 7 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,400 current crop production topics. 8 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,360 A live webinar is hosted at 08:00 A.M. on Wednesdays, 9 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:16,800 throughout the cropping season. 10 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:18,960 During the live webinar, participants can 11 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,460 join in the discussion and get questions answered. 12 00:00:21,460 --> 00:00:23,680 An audio recording of the live program is 13 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,800 released following the webinar via podcast platforms. 14 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,560 Thanks and remember to tune in weekly for discussion 15 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,795 on current cropping and crop management topics. 16 00:00:32,795 --> 00:00:34,790 Good morning everyone, and welcome 17 00:00:34,790 --> 00:00:38,070 Today's session of strategic farming field notes. 18 00:00:38,070 --> 00:00:40,030 Today we're going to be covering quite a bit 19 00:00:40,030 --> 00:00:42,550 about what's going on in the insect world here. 20 00:00:42,550 --> 00:00:45,590 We know we've had a few developments going on 21 00:00:45,590 --> 00:00:49,430 both Southern Minnesota dealing with a lot of army worms, 22 00:00:49,430 --> 00:00:51,470 but then also Northwestern Minnesota. 23 00:00:51,470 --> 00:00:54,490 We're looking at a new small grains 24 00:00:54,490 --> 00:00:56,770 and insect at least to the area up there. 25 00:00:56,770 --> 00:01:01,150 To start off, we'll talk to Dr. Ian MacRae. 26 00:01:01,150 --> 00:01:04,770 He's based out of Crookston, an Entomologist up there. 27 00:01:04,770 --> 00:01:06,450 And then also we have Bruce Potter, 28 00:01:06,450 --> 00:01:08,830 IPM specialist based out of Lambert, 29 00:01:08,830 --> 00:01:10,570 Southwestern Minnesota. On two. 30 00:01:10,570 --> 00:01:12,910 I want to remind folks that these sessions are 31 00:01:12,910 --> 00:01:15,710 brought by University of Minnesota Extension with 32 00:01:15,710 --> 00:01:17,090 very generous support from 33 00:01:17,090 --> 00:01:19,190 Minnesota Farm families through 34 00:01:19,190 --> 00:01:22,370 the Minnesota Corn Research Council 35 00:01:22,370 --> 00:01:25,050 and the Minnesota Soybean Research Motion Council. 36 00:01:25,050 --> 00:01:26,870 Again, we're glad you could join us today 37 00:01:26,870 --> 00:01:28,750 for today's update here. 38 00:01:28,750 --> 00:01:30,370 My name is Anthony Hanson. 39 00:01:30,370 --> 00:01:32,190 I'm a regional extension educator 40 00:01:32,190 --> 00:01:34,830 in integrated pest management based out Morris. 41 00:01:34,830 --> 00:01:39,370 I think with that I will hand it off to Dr. Ian 42 00:01:39,370 --> 00:01:41,110 MacRae in just a second here. 43 00:01:41,110 --> 00:01:44,410 I do want to say that one of the programs that we 44 00:01:44,410 --> 00:01:46,250 have an extension is 45 00:01:46,250 --> 00:01:48,210 what we call our Western IPM Scout Program. 46 00:01:48,210 --> 00:01:50,370 This is funded both by the Minnesota Wheat Growers 47 00:01:50,370 --> 00:01:52,170 and Minnesota Soybean Growers. 48 00:01:52,170 --> 00:01:54,950 And it was about two weeks ago that 49 00:01:54,950 --> 00:01:56,710 both our scouts started 50 00:01:56,710 --> 00:01:59,990 finding insect in northwestern Minnesota, 51 00:01:59,990 --> 00:02:02,190 specifically Norman Oman and 52 00:02:02,190 --> 00:02:04,070 a little bit in Red Lake County. 53 00:02:04,070 --> 00:02:05,970 And this was cereal leaf beetle. 54 00:02:05,970 --> 00:02:08,410 And we found out partly through an, 55 00:02:08,410 --> 00:02:12,390 that it was the first find in northwestern Minnesota. 56 00:02:12,390 --> 00:02:15,030 You want to talk a little bit about what's 57 00:02:15,030 --> 00:02:17,850 the big deal with cereal leaf beetle here 58 00:02:17,850 --> 00:02:20,370 and why that was 59 00:02:20,370 --> 00:02:22,430 both an exciting find 60 00:02:22,430 --> 00:02:25,650 but also a worrisome find for the area. 61 00:02:25,650 --> 00:02:28,450 Sure. Thanks Anthony. 62 00:02:28,450 --> 00:02:32,170 Well, certain leaf beetle is, 63 00:02:32,170 --> 00:02:34,670 can potentially cause economic loss. 64 00:02:34,670 --> 00:02:37,150 And what it's in 65 00:02:37,150 --> 00:02:40,630 basically all the states that surround us, 66 00:02:40,630 --> 00:02:46,210 in my time up here, we had not seen it in small grains. 67 00:02:46,210 --> 00:02:49,510 The MDA doesn't have a report of 68 00:02:49,510 --> 00:02:52,710 it being collected up here in small grains. 69 00:02:52,710 --> 00:02:55,490 I spoke to one of the local a couple 70 00:02:55,490 --> 00:02:59,010 of the local scouts they had don't recall seeing it. 71 00:02:59,010 --> 00:03:02,790 Bruce Potter who was up here actually, Bruce. 72 00:03:02,790 --> 00:03:04,270 You were up here before? I was. 73 00:03:04,270 --> 00:03:06,190 You were up here in the '90s? 74 00:03:06,190 --> 00:03:07,950 I guess older than you are. 75 00:03:07,950 --> 00:03:09,390 Yeah. 76 00:03:09,390 --> 00:03:14,610 But only by a few months. But Bruce 77 00:03:14,610 --> 00:03:15,850 seems to remember seeing it, 78 00:03:15,850 --> 00:03:17,170 so it might not necessarily be 79 00:03:17,170 --> 00:03:19,190 the first time that it's been hit. 80 00:03:19,190 --> 00:03:22,670 And it wouldn't be unusual to have an insect come in and 81 00:03:22,670 --> 00:03:24,890 disappear if the environmental conditions 82 00:03:24,890 --> 00:03:27,750 weren't right and have a reinvasion when they were. 83 00:03:27,750 --> 00:03:30,610 What we do know about this particular insect 84 00:03:30,610 --> 00:03:33,170 is that it's boy, 85 00:03:33,170 --> 00:03:35,370 what a charmer to work with. 86 00:03:35,370 --> 00:03:38,070 The adults are quite distinctive. 87 00:03:38,070 --> 00:03:39,590 They're about a quarter of an inch long, 88 00:03:39,590 --> 00:03:41,090 but they have very, 89 00:03:41,090 --> 00:03:44,790 very dark metallic blue wing covers. 90 00:03:44,790 --> 00:03:47,230 The posterior portion of 91 00:03:47,230 --> 00:03:49,430 the insect is covered by this really bright, 92 00:03:49,430 --> 00:03:51,550 dark blue and it's very metallic. 93 00:03:51,550 --> 00:03:53,870 And then they're thorax, 94 00:03:53,870 --> 00:03:55,470 so the legs are attached to their head 95 00:03:55,470 --> 00:03:58,210 are a very vibrant orange. 96 00:03:58,210 --> 00:04:00,470 They're not hard to miss. 97 00:04:00,470 --> 00:04:02,090 The adults really aren't hard to miss, 98 00:04:02,090 --> 00:04:04,350 but they're not around for a long time. 99 00:04:04,350 --> 00:04:05,970 They overwinter as adults, 100 00:04:05,970 --> 00:04:08,130 so the adults will emerge in the spring. 101 00:04:08,130 --> 00:04:11,150 They're usually very similar to a lot of other beetles. 102 00:04:11,150 --> 00:04:14,070 Overwinter leaf cover and duff in 103 00:04:14,070 --> 00:04:18,950 the hedgerows and shoulder belts move into a field, 104 00:04:18,950 --> 00:04:21,910 they make legs, they don't feed a lot. 105 00:04:21,910 --> 00:04:23,670 In the spring, a little bit 106 00:04:23,670 --> 00:04:25,990 the eggs will hatch and you have these larvae. 107 00:04:25,990 --> 00:04:28,270 Now, these are just charming little creatures because 108 00:04:28,270 --> 00:04:31,430 they're a light yellow color 109 00:04:31,430 --> 00:04:33,890 and against the green of a cereal grain, 110 00:04:33,890 --> 00:04:36,110 they would really stand out, cover 111 00:04:36,110 --> 00:04:38,350 themselves with mucus in their own feces. 112 00:04:38,350 --> 00:04:42,090 And now they're this really dark brown black blob 113 00:04:42,090 --> 00:04:45,750 that actually it resembles a little bit like a slug, 114 00:04:45,750 --> 00:04:47,130 but it also looks like 115 00:04:47,130 --> 00:04:50,350 bird droppings when they're very small. 116 00:04:50,350 --> 00:04:54,390 And it's probably a method of avoiding predation. 117 00:04:57,150 --> 00:05:00,110 Do you know of any other insects that we deal with? 118 00:05:00,110 --> 00:05:02,390 At least the field crop side of things that do that? 119 00:05:02,390 --> 00:05:05,590 Because, yeah, that's not something I should say. 120 00:05:05,590 --> 00:05:11,850 It's, Thank God there's other leaf beetles that do that. 121 00:05:11,850 --> 00:05:16,760 Thought Lily as well. 122 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,830 I know a needles will do the same thing. 123 00:05:19,830 --> 00:05:21,770 They also seem to 124 00:05:21,770 --> 00:05:23,450 have many of them 125 00:05:23,450 --> 00:05:26,050 seem to have this bright yellow color as well. 126 00:05:27,290 --> 00:05:31,610 Yeah. The adults and 127 00:05:31,610 --> 00:05:34,170 the immatures will feed in the same way, 128 00:05:34,170 --> 00:05:35,650 and that they start on the top of the leaf, 129 00:05:35,650 --> 00:05:37,050 they're usually on the top of the leaf. 130 00:05:37,050 --> 00:05:39,010 They start feeding down through the leaf material, 131 00:05:39,010 --> 00:05:40,570 and they stop when they get to the bottom 132 00:05:40,570 --> 00:05:42,530 of the bottom leaf cuticle, 133 00:05:42,530 --> 00:05:45,190 which leaves this empty area, 134 00:05:45,190 --> 00:05:46,690 and it looks like window painting. 135 00:05:46,690 --> 00:05:48,470 The adults feed in rows. 136 00:05:48,470 --> 00:05:50,070 They're fairly mobile and so they're 137 00:05:50,070 --> 00:05:52,370 feeding as they're walking up the leaf 138 00:05:52,370 --> 00:05:55,790 and you have these basically windowpane look 139 00:05:55,790 --> 00:05:58,070 like tracks as they go up these very narrow, 140 00:05:58,070 --> 00:06:00,830 long tracks, the larvae which are 141 00:06:00,830 --> 00:06:03,730 not as mobile as the adults. 142 00:06:03,730 --> 00:06:04,430 They do have lakes, 143 00:06:04,430 --> 00:06:05,870 but they're not as mobile and they have 144 00:06:05,870 --> 00:06:09,350 a tendency to feed more in a patch across the leaf. 145 00:06:09,350 --> 00:06:11,970 That actually turns out to be a lot more damaging 146 00:06:11,970 --> 00:06:14,950 simply because when they take right down to the cuticle, 147 00:06:14,950 --> 00:06:16,450 that cuticle is going to eventually 148 00:06:16,450 --> 00:06:17,810 dry and the rest of the leaf, 149 00:06:17,810 --> 00:06:19,070 even if it's fed upon or not, 150 00:06:19,070 --> 00:06:21,590 will drop off and you lose a lot of 151 00:06:21,590 --> 00:06:30,670 photosynthetic material there when the grain gets into. 152 00:06:30,670 --> 00:06:34,110 And I should specify, these are only on grassy crops, 153 00:06:34,110 --> 00:06:35,910 small grains, grassy weeds, 154 00:06:35,910 --> 00:06:37,790 things like that is where you'll find them 155 00:06:37,790 --> 00:06:42,750 when they they're feeding. 156 00:06:42,750 --> 00:06:46,870 And moving around, you have a tendency to see 157 00:06:46,870 --> 00:06:48,830 them move over to the flag leaf when the flag 158 00:06:48,830 --> 00:06:51,370 start developing and then they're very evident. 159 00:06:51,370 --> 00:06:52,890 It's not hard to find them. 160 00:06:52,890 --> 00:06:57,770 Really, the thresholds are reasonably low, 161 00:06:57,770 --> 00:07:01,030 which makes because they can cause a lot of damage. 162 00:07:01,030 --> 00:07:05,350 When the plants are small, maybe a little six plants, 163 00:07:05,350 --> 00:07:10,070 the threshold is three eggs or three larva per plant. 164 00:07:10,070 --> 00:07:12,150 When they get a little bit older, 165 00:07:12,150 --> 00:07:14,070 boot, the flag starts coming up. 166 00:07:14,070 --> 00:07:16,570 It's one larva, a flag leaf. 167 00:07:16,570 --> 00:07:18,010 And a lot of that has to do with 168 00:07:18,010 --> 00:07:21,050 how devastating they can be to a flag leaf. 169 00:07:21,050 --> 00:07:23,150 We know this thing. I've talked 170 00:07:23,150 --> 00:07:25,530 to Dr. Joo over in North Dakota, 171 00:07:25,530 --> 00:07:28,470 she's dealt with this an awful lot more than I have. 172 00:07:28,470 --> 00:07:31,490 I gave her a call and took a short serial leave, 173 00:07:31,490 --> 00:07:33,550 beat one on one course from her. 174 00:07:33,550 --> 00:07:35,770 She's been dealing with this for 175 00:07:35,770 --> 00:07:37,330 several years now and she 176 00:07:37,330 --> 00:07:38,950 seems to think that they're moving, 177 00:07:38,950 --> 00:07:40,910 or moving east rather out of Montana, 178 00:07:40,910 --> 00:07:42,010 and that seems to be how 179 00:07:42,010 --> 00:07:44,370 they're moving across North Dakota. 180 00:07:44,370 --> 00:07:46,410 She said they find it most 181 00:07:46,410 --> 00:07:48,450 years in a number of different counties, 182 00:07:48,450 --> 00:07:52,630 but usually it's not at economic populations. 183 00:07:52,630 --> 00:07:54,530 And she said occasionally you'll 184 00:07:54,530 --> 00:07:57,530 get a very similar to what we're seeing here. 185 00:07:57,530 --> 00:07:59,090 Occasionally you'll get a field 186 00:07:59,090 --> 00:08:00,330 that has a heavy population, 187 00:08:00,330 --> 00:08:02,370 but most of the ones that we've run into 188 00:08:02,370 --> 00:08:05,250 here's you'll find the damage, 189 00:08:05,250 --> 00:08:07,410 but it's oftentimes hard to find a large, 190 00:08:07,410 --> 00:08:10,210 and there's a lot of natural mortality with this insect. 191 00:08:10,210 --> 00:08:14,210 There's parasites and peristoids and predators, 192 00:08:14,210 --> 00:08:19,330 and so I think we may not be seeing a huge outrage. 193 00:08:19,330 --> 00:08:24,430 I can tell you where we are and are not finding it. 194 00:08:24,430 --> 00:08:28,910 We're finding populations in 195 00:08:28,910 --> 00:08:33,710 Noman and in Norman. We've recovered in both. 196 00:08:33,710 --> 00:08:36,270 The one field that we 197 00:08:36,270 --> 00:08:39,970 first found and it was one of the ones at the IPM 198 00:08:39,970 --> 00:08:43,250 found was actually heavily populated and at 199 00:08:43,250 --> 00:08:44,790 one point it probably was at 200 00:08:44,790 --> 00:08:46,590 a point where it was a threshold, 201 00:08:46,590 --> 00:08:47,670 but the vast majority of 202 00:08:47,670 --> 00:08:50,050 threshold of fields have not been. 203 00:08:50,050 --> 00:08:51,690 In fact, that was the only one that I 204 00:08:51,690 --> 00:08:53,510 saw that was even close. 205 00:08:53,510 --> 00:08:56,090 And I'm remembering the numbers a little bit too. 206 00:08:56,090 --> 00:08:57,950 And I think one of the first fields we sent you to, 207 00:08:57,950 --> 00:08:59,010 at least the scout found 208 00:08:59,010 --> 00:09:02,130 about 25% of the plants were infested. 209 00:09:02,130 --> 00:09:03,550 And I think that's when you said 210 00:09:03,550 --> 00:09:05,390 that was a threshold in the past? 211 00:09:05,390 --> 00:09:07,270 It was a little bit too late Based 212 00:09:07,270 --> 00:09:08,890 on yeah, based on the feeding. 213 00:09:08,890 --> 00:09:10,270 I would say there used to be 214 00:09:10,270 --> 00:09:12,850 an awful lot more lava in there than what we saw. 215 00:09:12,850 --> 00:09:15,330 The distribution was very even across the field. 216 00:09:15,330 --> 00:09:18,170 I mean, I was we were walking transect the field, 217 00:09:18,170 --> 00:09:19,870 you know, even strung out. 218 00:09:19,870 --> 00:09:23,110 We had about five people in the field and 219 00:09:23,110 --> 00:09:24,790 you could find damage all the way out 220 00:09:24,790 --> 00:09:27,590 into the field and you could find Larval. 221 00:09:27,670 --> 00:09:30,990 So, we had weather field too, 222 00:09:30,990 --> 00:09:32,970 Red County, that one had about 223 00:09:32,970 --> 00:09:35,810 33% But that's a research trial plot? 224 00:09:35,810 --> 00:09:40,370 Actually, we didn't remember. 225 00:09:40,370 --> 00:09:43,670 So, yeah, we did we did scout down 226 00:09:43,670 --> 00:09:45,970 Highway Nine and were coming 227 00:09:45,970 --> 00:09:47,510 back from one of 228 00:09:47,510 --> 00:09:48,870 the other things we were doing out there. 229 00:09:48,870 --> 00:09:50,110 And we did not find it on any of 230 00:09:50,110 --> 00:09:52,310 the wheat fields on nine, 231 00:09:52,310 --> 00:09:55,530 we did find it up to I think, 232 00:09:55,530 --> 00:09:57,910 about 15 to 20 mi away from that one. 233 00:09:57,910 --> 00:10:01,360 Very heavy one? Yeah. Yes. 234 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,120 So if one, those are counties, 235 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:05,940 at least for a lot of folks in Southern Minnesota, 236 00:10:05,940 --> 00:10:07,760 that's far Northwestern for them. 237 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,140 Is this an insect that folks 238 00:10:10,140 --> 00:10:11,240 should be keeping an islet 239 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:12,300 for across the rest of the state? 240 00:10:12,300 --> 00:10:14,700 I know Southeastern Minnesota roughly. 241 00:10:14,700 --> 00:10:17,380 It actually had been documented back and 242 00:10:17,380 --> 00:10:19,340 Mda did a survey from 243 00:10:19,340 --> 00:10:21,840 2010 historically been found down there. 244 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,140 But from our conversation, 245 00:10:23,140 --> 00:10:25,000 it sounds like it hasn't really been 246 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,980 economic threshold for people 247 00:10:26,980 --> 00:10:28,860 notice it too often down there. 248 00:10:28,860 --> 00:10:30,480 Yeah. And that's what I'm starting 249 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:31,740 to think, given the distribution, 250 00:10:31,740 --> 00:10:33,460 this is not something that's 251 00:10:33,460 --> 00:10:36,120 probably just come into this area in one year. 252 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:37,520 But I'm guessing at this point because we 253 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,280 don't know what the full distribution is, 254 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,560 we don't know how long they've been there. But 255 00:10:41,560 --> 00:10:43,380 The populations are so low in 256 00:10:43,380 --> 00:10:45,260 some fields that it's entirely possible. 257 00:10:45,260 --> 00:10:46,620 This is just something that's been 258 00:10:46,620 --> 00:10:49,000 here for a while, we've just missed. 259 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,260 There was one field we were in 260 00:10:51,260 --> 00:10:53,560 that we really had to look hard and we did 261 00:10:53,560 --> 00:10:55,220 find a little bit of damage and we found 262 00:10:55,220 --> 00:10:57,440 one larvae and that was after being in that field, 263 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:02,920 forths possible they could 264 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,420 be there at very low populations, 265 00:11:04,420 --> 00:11:05,580 and we know they're close. 266 00:11:05,580 --> 00:11:07,340 They're in Walsh County, which is 267 00:11:07,340 --> 00:11:10,120 the county that's on the border right above Grand Forks. 268 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,140 And we do know that 269 00:11:12,140 --> 00:11:15,480 they're relatively proximal in Minnesota. 270 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,380 If you're that close, the river 271 00:11:18,380 --> 00:11:20,380 does not make much of a barrier 272 00:11:20,380 --> 00:11:22,440 for an insect that'll fly. 273 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:27,040 Have some links in the chat and if folks do want to 274 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,160 look up a article that just came out last week, 275 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,500 Minnesota Crop News, this type in cereal leaf beetle. 276 00:11:33,500 --> 00:11:35,440 And you should see the article there too, 277 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:36,820 that'll have more information 278 00:11:36,820 --> 00:11:39,880 on what we look at for scouting thresholds, 279 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,340 But what are the options we have for insecticides for 280 00:11:43,340 --> 00:11:45,120 this insect and how well does it work 281 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,200 considering you have that mucus layer on that? 282 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:48,740 Is that affecting Fc 283 00:11:48,740 --> 00:11:51,440 at all or the insecticides working pretty well? 284 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,660 Well, most of the insecticides that I 285 00:11:53,660 --> 00:11:57,100 saw you got fairly good. 286 00:11:57,100 --> 00:11:59,760 When I went onto the arti trials, 287 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,020 most of the pyrethroids seem to be working fairly well. 288 00:12:03,020 --> 00:12:04,180 There wasn't a lot of resistance 289 00:12:04,180 --> 00:12:06,160 being recorded with this insect. 290 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:11,400 And the other one is if 291 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,440 there are certain amines that are also available. 292 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:15,960 But I think that might be overkill 293 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:17,940 if the pyrosis are working, 294 00:12:17,940 --> 00:12:20,020 you know, that's the low price point 295 00:12:20,020 --> 00:12:21,620 and they seem to work well. 296 00:12:21,620 --> 00:12:24,100 So that would probably be the first thing to 297 00:12:24,100 --> 00:12:27,620 go to. All right. 298 00:12:27,620 --> 00:12:30,400 I think we will move over to 299 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,580 Bruce and some of the other insect issues we have, 300 00:12:32,580 --> 00:12:34,620 but we'll definitely come 301 00:12:34,620 --> 00:12:36,800 back to you for Northwest Minnesota because I think we'll 302 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,800 talk about some dry season insects 303 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,390 and what's also happening with that, because again, 304 00:12:42,390 --> 00:12:45,700 showing up some parts of the state likely to 305 00:12:45,700 --> 00:12:47,100 show up in more counties 306 00:12:47,100 --> 00:12:49,240 this coming week here unless we get some rain, 307 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:50,980 there definitely are some insects or keep 308 00:12:50,980 --> 00:12:53,420 an eye out for first. 309 00:12:53,420 --> 00:12:55,660 We've had a lot of calls about 310 00:12:55,660 --> 00:12:59,200 true armyworm the last week or two, 311 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,040 At least some of these 312 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,060 are ones where they're wrapping up. 313 00:13:03,060 --> 00:13:04,660 There may not be as much they can do about it, 314 00:13:04,660 --> 00:13:07,480 but what have you seen for true armyworm? 315 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,120 Caterpillars are getting calls in 316 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,520 that both for concerns about 317 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,200 what's in our field crops 318 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,760 but then also what's happening in pastures too. 319 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,300 Because there's been apparently a few calls 320 00:13:18,300 --> 00:13:19,560 coming in Southeastern Minnesota, 321 00:13:19,560 --> 00:13:21,840 especially where folks fed close to 322 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:27,150 maybe 50 larvae per square foot in some well, I mean, 323 00:13:27,150 --> 00:13:28,930 we've been worried about army worms 324 00:13:28,930 --> 00:13:30,890 and black cutworms all spring, 325 00:13:30,890 --> 00:13:33,270 we run some pheromone traps and 326 00:13:33,270 --> 00:13:37,090 light traps for both of those insects. 327 00:13:37,090 --> 00:13:39,490 And in the Southern part of the state, 328 00:13:39,490 --> 00:13:41,570 when we had those heavy rains come through, 329 00:13:41,570 --> 00:13:44,130 that those were systems that 330 00:13:44,130 --> 00:13:47,950 brought migrating insects in from the south. 331 00:13:47,990 --> 00:13:51,230 I haven't I think I was on one 332 00:13:51,230 --> 00:13:54,030 of these previous webcasts, 333 00:13:54,030 --> 00:13:56,390 but, you know, I cut 334 00:13:56,390 --> 00:13:57,710 my personal record for 335 00:13:57,710 --> 00:13:59,430 army worms in a single night 336 00:13:59,430 --> 00:14:01,530 and a light trap that was 195. 337 00:14:01,530 --> 00:14:04,210 And then quite a few of the following nights, 338 00:14:04,210 --> 00:14:07,290 some pretty big flights have come in on both species. 339 00:14:07,290 --> 00:14:12,790 We've had injury to 340 00:14:12,870 --> 00:14:16,770 a lot of injury to pastures and grass, 341 00:14:16,770 --> 00:14:18,490 hay land, that sort of thing, 342 00:14:18,490 --> 00:14:20,330 But also in corn, 343 00:14:20,330 --> 00:14:23,790 particularly where corn was planted into rye. 344 00:14:23,790 --> 00:14:26,690 And I think we've had people alerted to that. 345 00:14:26,690 --> 00:14:28,350 They should have been out scouting both of 346 00:14:28,350 --> 00:14:32,030 those areas because of the high flights. 347 00:14:34,030 --> 00:14:40,350 I think the thing to realize here is that we've got, 348 00:14:43,430 --> 00:14:45,890 we've had a perfect storm, 349 00:14:45,890 --> 00:14:49,365 especially in Southeast Minnesota where it's dryer. 350 00:14:49,365 --> 00:14:53,620 We had weather systems that brought a lot of mass in. 351 00:14:53,740 --> 00:14:57,000 They were looking for dense grasses to 352 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,820 lay eggs on in case of army worms, 353 00:14:59,820 --> 00:15:02,840 whether that be a ry cover crop 354 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,500 or some sort of perennial grass. 355 00:15:06,500 --> 00:15:09,620 Then we had a dry conditions set up 356 00:15:09,620 --> 00:15:13,120 and that slowed crop growth. 357 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,260 Those larvae ran out of food 358 00:15:15,260 --> 00:15:18,020 quicker and they were encouraged to move faster. 359 00:15:18,020 --> 00:15:21,460 And that's where they get the term armyworm. 360 00:15:21,460 --> 00:15:25,180 When they run out of food, those larva move in mass. 361 00:15:25,180 --> 00:15:27,800 That's what we're dealing with right now. 362 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,480 There's been multiple flights and we've 363 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,680 got quite a range of arable sizes out there. 364 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,300 And we're going to have some issues here for a while. 365 00:15:38,300 --> 00:15:40,760 And it's not just Southeast Minnesota. 366 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,780 I know they've had some bigger flights 367 00:15:42,780 --> 00:15:44,340 up into Northwest Minnesota, 368 00:15:44,340 --> 00:15:46,600 so we're going to have to keep an eye 369 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,740 out for at least the next few weeks. 370 00:15:49,740 --> 00:15:53,040 Yeah. That was actually one of the questions I had was 371 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,520 how long we really need to be keep an eye out 372 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,300 for if people are seeing an issue right now. 373 00:15:58,380 --> 00:16:00,760 When and where should they be treating? 374 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,980 If we're talking about field crops, corn, 375 00:16:03,980 --> 00:16:05,320 how long is that susceptible 376 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,630 for if they have grass edges. But then also 377 00:16:08,630 --> 00:16:09,520 Pastures? 378 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,020 When is it economical to treat pastures, 379 00:16:12,020 --> 00:16:13,600 especially in these stroke conditions? 380 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,880 Is that something where if you see high numbers in 381 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:21,560 your pastures and you're already on age out there, 382 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:22,760 is that something you need to be out 383 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:23,940 there ahead of treating 384 00:16:23,940 --> 00:16:26,440 pretty heavily or is it a little bit difficult, 385 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:27,720 especially if some of these 386 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,220 larvae are more mature out there? 387 00:16:30,220 --> 00:16:32,580 Well, I think really if 388 00:16:32,580 --> 00:16:35,240 the guys are wanting their hay crap, 389 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:40,340 they want to protect it from the insects taking it. 390 00:16:40,340 --> 00:16:43,040 The threshold is the same for 391 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,580 grasslands and hay ground as it is for small grains, 392 00:16:46,580 --> 00:16:49,580 four or five larva per square foot. 393 00:16:49,580 --> 00:16:52,680 I think the other thing that happens 394 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,220 is movement out of those areas, kind of similar. 395 00:16:56,220 --> 00:16:58,880 I think maybe I'll talk about grasshoppers later on, 396 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,500 but you don't want 397 00:17:01,500 --> 00:17:04,480 the larvae to move out of those areas into, 398 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,640 into your field crops, either, particularly corn. 399 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,040 And so I think, 400 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:11,940 you know, treatment should have 401 00:17:11,940 --> 00:17:14,580 happened in some of those fields earlier. 402 00:17:14,580 --> 00:17:16,980 Some people didn't find the problem in 403 00:17:16,980 --> 00:17:20,460 their hay ground until they were out there mowing. 404 00:17:20,460 --> 00:17:24,780 But I think I think definitely 405 00:17:24,780 --> 00:17:27,380 treating the treating where 406 00:17:27,380 --> 00:17:30,520 these larvae are starting from is a good idea, 407 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,980 or at least a border on those areas before they 408 00:17:32,980 --> 00:17:36,220 get into the crops. Row crops. 409 00:17:36,220 --> 00:17:39,320 I think you mentioned black cutworm earlier too, 410 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,860 what you've been seeing happening with that? 411 00:17:41,860 --> 00:17:45,400 Well, we've had some pretty significant issues. 412 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,820 Some of the Southern Minnesota 413 00:17:47,820 --> 00:17:49,160 beet growers have had quite a 414 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:53,140 few have had quite a struggle with cutworms this year. 415 00:17:53,140 --> 00:17:55,220 Some of that's the same situation. 416 00:17:55,220 --> 00:17:57,460 A lot of guys are planting 417 00:17:57,460 --> 00:17:59,500 an ot cover crop to prevent 418 00:17:59,500 --> 00:18:02,940 erosion that's a little bit attractive to the mass. 419 00:18:02,940 --> 00:18:05,300 Then when they kill that oats, 420 00:18:05,300 --> 00:18:07,020 they'll move to the sugar beets. 421 00:18:07,020 --> 00:18:10,170 And small sugar beets don't 422 00:18:10,170 --> 00:18:12,510 stand up to cutworms very well. 423 00:18:12,510 --> 00:18:15,330 It's multiple species of cutworms in the beats. 424 00:18:15,330 --> 00:18:18,850 Actually we've had some variegated cutworm issues 425 00:18:18,850 --> 00:18:20,630 or some of those in L Flp as well. 426 00:18:20,630 --> 00:18:23,790 Again, another migrant and I just got 427 00:18:23,790 --> 00:18:25,270 a picture last night of 428 00:18:25,270 --> 00:18:28,330 yellow striped army worms and sugar beets. 429 00:18:28,330 --> 00:18:32,590 It's definitely a year for migrating moth insects. 430 00:18:32,590 --> 00:18:36,510 I think something we're going to have to keep an eye on, 431 00:18:36,510 --> 00:18:38,950 particularly with this drier weather. 432 00:18:38,950 --> 00:18:40,790 Some of the diseases aren't going 433 00:18:40,790 --> 00:18:43,430 to help control the insects as well. 434 00:18:43,430 --> 00:18:45,730 I've had a few other questions come 435 00:18:45,730 --> 00:18:47,490 in and is reminder to folks too. 436 00:18:47,490 --> 00:18:50,630 You can use the Q and A if you have any questions, 437 00:18:50,630 --> 00:18:52,290 if you're on the, um, 438 00:18:52,290 --> 00:18:55,890 chat itself here, but swiping glitch, 439 00:18:55,890 --> 00:18:57,870 are there any updates on that one 440 00:18:57,870 --> 00:18:59,510 Or is it too early to be able to 441 00:18:59,510 --> 00:19:03,170 tell what the situation is looking like this year, 442 00:19:03,170 --> 00:19:04,710 where fines might be showing up, 443 00:19:04,710 --> 00:19:06,670 or severity was down at 444 00:19:06,670 --> 00:19:09,390 our research site in Rock County yesterday afternoon. 445 00:19:09,390 --> 00:19:12,430 And we've been monitoring emergency cages, 446 00:19:12,430 --> 00:19:13,870 and I think the populations 447 00:19:13,870 --> 00:19:16,370 were are fairly low again this year. 448 00:19:16,370 --> 00:19:17,610 And we didn't haven't picked up 449 00:19:17,610 --> 00:19:19,050 any in the emergency cages, 450 00:19:19,050 --> 00:19:22,130 but we do have some plants being infested. 451 00:19:22,130 --> 00:19:24,490 Now, there's a few orange larvae, 452 00:19:24,490 --> 00:19:26,370 so they've been there maybe a week or more, 453 00:19:26,370 --> 00:19:29,730 but most of them are still fairly small. 454 00:19:29,730 --> 00:19:34,020 First, in stars, that infestation is going on right now. 455 00:19:34,020 --> 00:19:35,610 Okay. 456 00:19:35,610 --> 00:19:38,590 I think people are going to be asking about safe. 457 00:19:38,590 --> 00:19:40,430 We'll try to have another session 458 00:19:40,430 --> 00:19:42,370 on that coming up here soon. 459 00:19:42,370 --> 00:19:45,090 But yeah, it sounds like slaved, 460 00:19:45,090 --> 00:19:46,190 that one has been showing up. 461 00:19:46,190 --> 00:19:47,610 Some people are finding in fields 462 00:19:47,610 --> 00:19:49,730 but obviously not threshold levels yet. 463 00:19:49,730 --> 00:19:51,850 A little too early for that one there. 464 00:19:51,850 --> 00:19:54,170 But the main question I'm getting 465 00:19:54,170 --> 00:19:56,230 here is on grasshoppers. 466 00:19:56,230 --> 00:19:58,790 Both Bruce and II can hand that 467 00:19:58,790 --> 00:19:59,890 one off to both of you here 468 00:19:59,890 --> 00:20:01,410 depending on what you're seeing. 469 00:20:01,410 --> 00:20:02,930 But I know I'm seeing plenty of 470 00:20:02,930 --> 00:20:05,730 small grasshoppers and some of the hay fields out here. 471 00:20:05,730 --> 00:20:08,150 Not anything too concerning 472 00:20:08,150 --> 00:20:10,030 yet in West central Minnesota, 473 00:20:10,030 --> 00:20:12,190 but high enough populations. 474 00:20:12,190 --> 00:20:13,650 Now, I definitely want to keep an eye on it. 475 00:20:13,650 --> 00:20:15,130 Is that the situation? 476 00:20:15,130 --> 00:20:17,850 You both are seeing your neck of the woods 477 00:20:17,850 --> 00:20:19,170 or are you actually 478 00:20:19,170 --> 00:20:21,750 getting pretty high numbers out there? 479 00:20:21,750 --> 00:20:24,430 I'm seeing really high numbers in 480 00:20:24,430 --> 00:20:27,490 alfalfa, red legged grasshoppers. 481 00:20:27,490 --> 00:20:31,590 And it makes sense. At least in this area. 482 00:20:31,590 --> 00:20:34,510 We've had two years of drought, 483 00:20:34,510 --> 00:20:37,750 dry weather, actually severe drought. 484 00:20:37,750 --> 00:20:40,510 So I think that's something people should watch. 485 00:20:40,510 --> 00:20:46,950 And again, it, it's a case where if you're seeing 486 00:20:46,950 --> 00:20:51,270 those nymphs in these production areas that 487 00:20:51,270 --> 00:20:53,850 hay or grasslands next to 488 00:20:53,850 --> 00:20:55,550 it keep an eye on 489 00:20:55,550 --> 00:20:58,390 that because they probably won't stay there. 490 00:20:58,670 --> 00:21:01,950 Yeah, I concur. I don't think our populations 491 00:21:01,950 --> 00:21:04,370 are as high as Bruce is seeing down in the Southwest, 492 00:21:04,370 --> 00:21:07,510 but we are starting to see stuff in the Northwest. 493 00:21:07,950 --> 00:21:12,590 Like he says, we're starting to see nymphs. 494 00:21:12,630 --> 00:21:14,870 I've had calls already, 495 00:21:14,870 --> 00:21:17,350 which is early in the season. 496 00:21:17,350 --> 00:21:20,890 I think we've probably had a little bit more rain 497 00:21:20,890 --> 00:21:24,930 in the fall and maybe a little bit more early spring. 498 00:21:24,930 --> 00:21:27,910 Our populations might not necessarily be as high. 499 00:21:27,910 --> 00:21:31,350 Certainly the recipe for grasshopper populations, 500 00:21:31,350 --> 00:21:33,910 any years or dry fall 501 00:21:33,910 --> 00:21:35,150 followed by a dry spring is 502 00:21:35,150 --> 00:21:36,750 going to give you grasshoppers. 503 00:21:36,750 --> 00:21:38,990 Um, like I said, 504 00:21:38,990 --> 00:21:41,370 we're probably not as high as Bruce, 505 00:21:41,370 --> 00:21:42,610 but yeah, that's something people 506 00:21:42,610 --> 00:21:44,410 should be watching and scouting for. 507 00:21:44,410 --> 00:21:45,890 Hitting the edges of the fields 508 00:21:45,890 --> 00:21:47,670 and seeing what their populations are, 509 00:21:47,670 --> 00:21:50,270 like something that should be on their radar screen. 510 00:21:50,270 --> 00:21:54,030 Yeah, that's a good reminder for folks. 511 00:21:54,030 --> 00:21:56,790 I think we've hit on it a few times over the years here. 512 00:21:56,790 --> 00:21:59,310 But grasshoppers are a dry season pests. 513 00:21:59,310 --> 00:22:02,210 Partly just because when it's wet, 514 00:22:02,210 --> 00:22:04,330 you have more mortality due 515 00:22:04,330 --> 00:22:07,590 to fungi that might go after grasshoppers. 516 00:22:07,590 --> 00:22:09,270 Bruce, you want to talk a little 517 00:22:09,270 --> 00:22:11,170 bit more about those conditions. 518 00:22:11,170 --> 00:22:12,730 You know, when they do well 519 00:22:12,730 --> 00:22:14,770 versus why they don't do well. 520 00:22:14,770 --> 00:22:17,270 Then the worst thing, 521 00:22:17,270 --> 00:22:20,310 and I want to a comment here, 522 00:22:20,310 --> 00:22:21,850 it's not every field in 523 00:22:21,850 --> 00:22:24,770 every area that's got grasshoppers. 524 00:22:24,770 --> 00:22:28,150 It depends a lot on 525 00:22:28,150 --> 00:22:30,710 the previous year's weather and 526 00:22:30,710 --> 00:22:34,150 particularly last fall and this early spring. 527 00:22:34,150 --> 00:22:37,230 But the worst thing for grasshopper nymphs, 528 00:22:37,230 --> 00:22:39,830 and I think correct me if I'm wrong, 529 00:22:39,830 --> 00:22:42,210 is when those nymphs are hatching. 530 00:22:42,210 --> 00:22:44,370 If you have a cool, wet period, 531 00:22:44,370 --> 00:22:46,090 there's two things that happen. 532 00:22:46,090 --> 00:22:49,390 One is disease. One, it's too cold from, 533 00:22:49,390 --> 00:22:51,590 to move and they starve to death. 534 00:22:51,590 --> 00:22:54,670 We haven't had that this spring. 535 00:22:55,470 --> 00:22:59,250 Species I'm seeing right now are species that tend 536 00:22:59,250 --> 00:23:02,230 to hatch later like the red leg stripes. 537 00:23:02,230 --> 00:23:05,810 And I'm not seeing much of all at all. 538 00:23:05,810 --> 00:23:08,730 Yeah, I think our populations are a little heavier for 539 00:23:08,730 --> 00:23:10,330 two stripes up here than 540 00:23:10,330 --> 00:23:12,390 down there. They're a little bit more common. 541 00:23:12,390 --> 00:23:14,070 And that could be also because 542 00:23:14,070 --> 00:23:16,810 the red lakes have a tendency to prefer 543 00:23:16,810 --> 00:23:23,010 that warmer drier climates than the two K two stripes. 544 00:23:23,010 --> 00:23:25,790 But we used to get a lot of 545 00:23:25,790 --> 00:23:28,470 red lakes down in high plains in Colorado, 546 00:23:28,470 --> 00:23:30,650 so that's why I was thinking that. 547 00:23:30,650 --> 00:23:37,550 But yeah, Bruce is 100% right there. 548 00:23:37,550 --> 00:23:40,730 The wrong conditions for grasshopper at 549 00:23:40,730 --> 00:23:41,870 the early season and when they're 550 00:23:41,870 --> 00:23:44,220 hatching out is a great condition for us. 551 00:23:44,220 --> 00:23:46,650 You know, they're very, 552 00:23:46,650 --> 00:23:49,290 that's by far the most, 553 00:23:49,770 --> 00:23:53,530 it's by far the most sensitive stage in their lives. 554 00:23:53,530 --> 00:23:55,230 They don't know when they're emerging. 555 00:23:55,230 --> 00:23:57,250 If they don't find food within a meter, 556 00:23:57,250 --> 00:23:59,890 they're probably not going through. 557 00:23:59,890 --> 00:24:02,750 So and that's one of the reasons why those, you know, 558 00:24:02,750 --> 00:24:04,030 those hot dry springs 559 00:24:04,030 --> 00:24:08,370 are if it's followed a hot dry fall, 560 00:24:08,370 --> 00:24:10,330 you can start to see hoppers. 561 00:24:10,330 --> 00:24:14,950 But if you've got that cool period and it's moist, 562 00:24:14,950 --> 00:24:16,990 the fungal diseases are going to take off. 563 00:24:16,990 --> 00:24:18,670 As Bruce said, that's going 564 00:24:18,670 --> 00:24:21,290 to have a lot of mortality on the young. 565 00:24:21,290 --> 00:24:25,610 And as he said, moving is critical. They've got to feed. 566 00:24:25,610 --> 00:24:27,950 There's not a lot of resources, 567 00:24:27,950 --> 00:24:29,690 food resources, nutritive resources, 568 00:24:29,690 --> 00:24:31,010 and a grasshopper egg. 569 00:24:31,010 --> 00:24:35,070 And so they need to take on calories pretty quick. 570 00:24:35,070 --> 00:24:36,790 And if they can't move or if 571 00:24:36,790 --> 00:24:38,510 it's bare ground or something, 572 00:24:38,510 --> 00:24:39,990 they can't get to food, it's 573 00:24:39,990 --> 00:24:41,910 going to be pretty tough for them. 574 00:24:41,910 --> 00:24:45,950 So we've been talking about forages a bit here, 575 00:24:45,950 --> 00:24:47,910 especially on the army worm side. 576 00:24:47,910 --> 00:24:49,510 And that applies to grasshoppers, 577 00:24:49,510 --> 00:24:50,650 we're finding a lot of it. 578 00:24:50,650 --> 00:24:52,450 How about soybeans though? 579 00:24:52,450 --> 00:24:55,890 When is that a more acceptable crop? 580 00:24:55,890 --> 00:24:57,570 Are we looking at that later in the season 581 00:24:57,570 --> 00:24:59,970 or do we have enough defoliation now? 582 00:24:59,970 --> 00:25:02,290 We'd be worried about our soybeans. 583 00:25:02,290 --> 00:25:04,510 For grasshoppers? 584 00:25:04,510 --> 00:25:05,850 For grasshoppers, yes. 585 00:25:05,850 --> 00:25:09,250 Well, I think is 586 00:25:09,250 --> 00:25:12,910 more two stripes up there in Northwest Minnesota. 587 00:25:12,910 --> 00:25:14,910 Northern part of the state down here. 588 00:25:14,910 --> 00:25:17,610 Those are replaced by differential. 589 00:25:17,610 --> 00:25:20,330 They are larger grasshoppers. 590 00:25:20,330 --> 00:25:22,350 The differentials hatch later, 591 00:25:22,350 --> 00:25:24,610 but differentials and red 592 00:25:24,610 --> 00:25:28,110 legged particularly will lay eggs and soybeans, 593 00:25:28,110 --> 00:25:31,490 especially if they like firm ground, bare ground. 594 00:25:31,490 --> 00:25:35,710 So no tail type situations are 595 00:25:35,710 --> 00:25:38,650 preferred that alfalfa is perfect 596 00:25:38,650 --> 00:25:40,310 for them because there's a lot 597 00:25:40,310 --> 00:25:42,505 of bare ground in amongst the plants. 598 00:25:42,505 --> 00:25:46,240 Um, and I think the other thing to worry about, 599 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,580 not so much on grass hay but on alfalfa, 600 00:25:50,580 --> 00:25:55,900 is blister beetle larvae feed on the eggs and if 601 00:25:55,900 --> 00:25:57,620 you've got high populations of 602 00:25:57,620 --> 00:26:01,240 grasshoppers in those alfalfa fields laying eggs, 603 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,360 you have a tendency to pull in blister beetles. 604 00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:06,280 And then now you've got an issue for 605 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,000 hay quality, particularly with horses. 606 00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:13,400 Actually, we've gotten some calls 607 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,260 on those blister beetles up. 608 00:26:15,260 --> 00:26:17,680 We've talked about that on our crops calls before. 609 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,860 And yeah, I've had some fields who I've seen 610 00:26:20,860 --> 00:26:23,420 the great blister beetles showing up 611 00:26:23,420 --> 00:26:26,720 in alfalfa on the edges in central Minnesota. 612 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,440 And if you have the beef cattle, 613 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:29,660 they're a little more tolerant to that. 614 00:26:29,660 --> 00:26:31,340 But yeah, like you said, horses, 615 00:26:31,340 --> 00:26:33,000 that's more of a concern there. 616 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,480 The take home was with blister beetles. 617 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,860 And this can be our wrap up question here for folks. 618 00:26:38,860 --> 00:26:40,820 That's one where we're saying 619 00:26:40,820 --> 00:26:42,300 that if you're going to mow, 620 00:26:42,300 --> 00:26:44,500 give it some time for those beetles to disperse. 621 00:26:44,500 --> 00:26:46,560 Don't be crimping it or spray 622 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,840 insecticide because that's a case where you just 623 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,860 have the beetles left in the hay and 624 00:26:50,860 --> 00:26:54,000 then you're going to have that irritant from 625 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,420 the beetles that's going to get into 626 00:26:55,420 --> 00:26:56,920 the livestock a lot easier 627 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,400 because you're just going to have more beetles 628 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,060 out there or Bruce, 629 00:27:00,060 --> 00:27:01,320 do you have any other thoughts on 630 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:02,680 those blister beetles and 631 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,080 what they're up to in the fields? 632 00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:09,270 Just be aware of Yeah, 633 00:27:09,270 --> 00:27:11,230 I can catch people off guard a little bit. 634 00:27:11,230 --> 00:27:14,170 I think given by the calls we're getting in here, 635 00:27:14,170 --> 00:27:16,290 don't let that Alp alpha Bloom 636 00:27:16,290 --> 00:27:20,430 because that'll congregate them in the field as well. 637 00:27:20,430 --> 00:27:22,890 All right. Well, I think 638 00:27:22,890 --> 00:27:25,550 that we're about time to wrap up here. 639 00:27:25,550 --> 00:27:26,850 Again, thanks everyone for 640 00:27:26,850 --> 00:27:28,750 attending today's Field notes program. 641 00:27:28,750 --> 00:27:30,410 We want to, again, thank our sponsors, 642 00:27:30,410 --> 00:27:32,890 the Minnesota Soybean Research and Promotion Council 643 00:27:32,890 --> 00:27:35,730 and the Minnesota Corn Research Promotion Council. 644 00:27:35,730 --> 00:27:38,030 Thanks to Bruce Potter, Dr. 645 00:27:38,030 --> 00:27:40,930 I Mcrae, for joining us this morning. 646 00:27:40,930 --> 00:27:42,330 And have a great rest of the day, 647 00:27:42,330 --> 00:27:44,570 everyone, and we'll see you next week.