Into the Supernatural With Jen Lilley & Billy Hallowell

Evil is real. That's a lesson Chris DeFlorio, a former officer with the New York Police Department, has learned all too well.

DeFlorio is using his investigative skills to help people who believe they’re facing ills from the demonic realm. He and his wife Harmony run New York Demonic Investigation, an organization that seeks to explore these potential scenarios.

“It wasn’t until I pretty much focused full-time into this area, which we’ll call demonology, through the church, [that] I started to try to differentiate … the secondary evil that I was seeing on the street in human beings,” he told "Billy Hallowell's Playing With Fire Podcast." “And then [I wondered], ‘What’s behind that? There, there must be a primary evil.'”

That’s when DeFlorio began to take a Bible-based approach to try and understand wickedness — a path that led him to apply his law enforcement skills to demonology and the biblical understanding of the manifestation of evil.

Listen to Chris and Harmony describe confronting evil and why they do what they do.

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What is Into the Supernatural With Jen Lilley & Billy Hallowell?

Do miracles still happen today? What’s really going on in the spiritual battle around us? What does the Bible say about the supernatural—and why does it matter?

If you’ve ever wrestled with these questions, Into the Supernatural is the podcast you’ve been waiting for. Hosted by actress Jen Lilley and TV host and journalist Billy Hallowell, this captivating show pulls back the veil on the unseen world, exploring the powerful and oft-times misunderstood supernatural elements of the Christian faith.

From miracles and healings to deliverance and near-death experiences, Jen and Billy dive deep into firsthand testimonies, biblical truth, and the mysteries of the spiritual realm. With thought-provoking discussions and expert guests, they explore how God still moves today—and what it means for your faith.

The supernatural isn’t just something from the past—it’s happening right now. Whether you’re a skeptic, a seeker, or a believer hungry for more, this show will challenge, inspire, and equip you to understand the reality of spiritual warfare, the power of prayer, and the undeniable evidence of God’s presence in our world.

Are you ready to go beyond the natural and step Into the Supernatural?