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Folks are asking better questions to find out

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and probably through that process

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encouraging people to know more about themselves.

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What motivates them? How do they succeed?

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What kind of recognition do they want?

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Growth gets over simplified

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more often than we'd like to admit.

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Amy Henderson is an experienced executive,

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who helps organizations drive enterprise growth

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by aligning, talent, technology and data.

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All while operating with financial discipline.

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Her work focuses on designing strategies

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that can actually be executed.

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And building the culture

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and leadership capacity required to sustain them.

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What sets Amy apart, is how deeply she understands

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the gap between strategy and reality.

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She spent her career working inside that space.

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Translating vision into action

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balancing ambition with rigor

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and ensuring growth doesn't outpace

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the organization's capacity to deliver.

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In this episode we unpack why misalignment

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not lack of ideas is what stalls growth

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and why sustainable scale only happens when culture,

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talent, and technology are built together from the start.

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So let's dive right in.

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You know

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I wonder if chaos isn't the standard and organization

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in almost everything. So, you

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at one moment it might feel like chaos

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we've we've got direction and we've got organization

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and we're getting the right people involved

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talk talk to us about something you're celebrating

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when you've gone from chaos to order

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chaos to order it's more like chaos to organize chaos

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when you're in that fast paced

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business that we're that we're in

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I I feel like honestly celebrating teamwork right when

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when all of that has come together

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it's because people on the team

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folks on the team have played their part

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they've engaged they've understood the direction

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there's been clear leadership

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and that that is not simple

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that is not easy you guys both know that

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I know a little bit about your backgrounds and um

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that that is something to tremendously celebrate and

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you know people uh

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can be the biggest obstacle

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but they can also be

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the biggest contributors to success

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the necessity to to unlearn

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that's a that is a really tough one unlearn

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from approaching things in the same way

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if you've been a leader and you know

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you're gonna have you're gonna organize by skill sets

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inside your organization according to

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the skills and the expertise that those folks have

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we all grew up in an era where we did a disc profile

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companies evaluating the role

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the the job itself

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profile together for that role

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cause it's a human role in a human organization

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the people to the demands and requirements

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of that role where it's flexibility

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etcetera and I'm wondering

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this is people are rapidly becoming far more aware

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of their own things that feed them and yes

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and where they're getting energy

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and how they're contributing energy

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so it's not just leaders

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is that is that because the technology is available

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what do you think that's about

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folks are asking better questions to find out and

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encouraging people to know more about themselves

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recognition do they want

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you know the teams right now with what's going on

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you know are generally smaller

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they're expecting more from fewer folks

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relationship that teamwork

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agents right

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rather than than people

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you still have to have all of those human components

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what makes someone successful

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and what might motivate you to be a

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you know top performer for our team

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and it's it's a two way kind of conversation

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and that would not be in our conversation

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what are you doing well

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that's right today

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and there's 35 of them

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and individual roles look like this and sound like that

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are people adapting to managing agents

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just a subset of people being successful

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they're now they now have

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are running AI agents um

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so what do you see in education

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changes that might happen

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this human component and making sure things stay human

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that's gonna become the rare thing

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right if I go to school

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and I learn math or I learn computer science or I

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am I also getting the foundation for that people aspect

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you now only have I don't know

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maybe you only have 10 people on your

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on your team who are all doing very different tasks

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or owning very different parts of the business

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you know that can enter cross Silo communication is a

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is vital for that to be a

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a success so there is

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there is this people psychology

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you know don't you after years of managing people

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don't you wish you had studied psychology

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and yes I was one of the ones that raised their hand

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so Simon Sinek says people that don't understand

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people don't understand business

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yeah and I agree with that completely

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more and more every day

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well problem solving right

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the fun part about everything that's true

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is that you're unbelievably

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ridiculously successful as a human

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and everyone before you was perfectly successful

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and everyone before you Johnny

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was perfectly successful so

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we're sitting in a room now with a bunch of people

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grappling with new opportunities and new problems

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and we will be perfectly successful

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