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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Hey, everybody, welcome to the Bible guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that was exciting. Yeah, A little tappy tap, a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of percussion. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I realized. I realized that I am

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<v Speaker 1>impressed with tap dancing.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, that was not what I was expecting my day

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<v Speaker 2>to begin today with. You know something, Let's let's make

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<v Speaker 2>sure this is relevant for the youngsters today.

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<v Speaker 1>I really enjoyed tap dancing. I didn't say enjoy I

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<v Speaker 1>said I'm impressed. Impressed with impressing. I do enjoy it,

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<v Speaker 1>but not not doing it. I'm seeing it.

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<v Speaker 2>You watched too many old musicals.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to Broadway show on Sunday and there was

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<v Speaker 1>a there was a bit inside the show and uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And I went to see Mean Girls and Intown Detroit

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<v Speaker 1>and there was this guy and he was a bigger guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He was actually quite big, and he moved. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen a bigger guy who moves like an athlete?

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<v Speaker 2>This guy like move like football players.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean, right, like like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>mean bigger as in life, so big football players.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they are not moving like athletes. Big dancers on stage,

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<v Speaker 2>they move like athletes. Is that the message you're sending.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying they used to be an athlete.

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<v Speaker 2>As opposed to big football players who are currently athletes.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, if you're talking about linemen, linemen don't have like

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<v Speaker 1>a wide range.

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<v Speaker 2>All I'm saying is a guy singing and dancing on

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<v Speaker 2>stage who looks like an athlete is different from an

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<v Speaker 2>actual big app Okay, but go ahead. I'm sorry. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I derailed you.

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<v Speaker 1>I have met lineman who could barely walk, but they

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<v Speaker 1>do their job because they weighed three hundred and fifty pounds. Okay, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy, but this guy can dance very big. But

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<v Speaker 1>the big guy and couldn't dance, but he was a

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<v Speaker 1>light on his feet. Yes much so okay, anyway, So

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<v Speaker 1>you started tap dancing, and I was like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>amazing because you don't really see tap dancing in today's

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<v Speaker 1>day and age.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 1>No, And I was like, when I did this, you're impressed.

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<v Speaker 1>When I went like that, I thought of.

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<v Speaker 2>Tap dancing, You're impressed with tap dancing.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually am okay, very much.

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<v Speaker 2>The wonderful mind of Zar ba. There you have it.

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<v Speaker 1>Folks, Hey man, you've never had that.

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<v Speaker 2>Thought, I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever seen tap dancing?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>And you never think, wow, that's impressive.

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<v Speaker 2>Always think who took the time to learn that skill?

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<v Speaker 2>You know how long it took to develop that skill?

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<v Speaker 2>And in what world did his parents?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey?

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<v Speaker 2>Son, you know, if you work real hard, you could

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<v Speaker 2>be a dentist, or a lawyer or a doctor. No, Mom, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Figured it out.

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<v Speaker 2>I want. I know what I want to spend my

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<v Speaker 2>life doing. I want to sing and dance. Not only

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<v Speaker 2>sing and dance, I want to tap dance.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're like, chase your dream son.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I watched tap dancing, always think who took

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<v Speaker 2>them to learn that?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's really funny. That's really funny. But anyways, anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but when I watch Aligneman play football, I'm like.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, this is art. I have a fear. I have

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<v Speaker 1>a feeling this conversation will never go my way.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, anyways, no matter what I do, it's not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go big three hundred fifty pounds line. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>what an artist? That's time well spent?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, here we go, all right?

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<v Speaker 2>Anyways, have dancing. It's one of your favorite things.

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<v Speaker 1>Relevant. Yes, I didn't say one of my favorite things.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, okay, so anyways, sorry this is.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me just read, but doesn't right, there's no transition.

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<v Speaker 1>We are officially less than two weeks away from Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's do a draft list to our favorite activities.

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<v Speaker 1>You walk, paper scissors to find out who gets the

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<v Speaker 1>first draft pick and go into you have five activities.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to do this quick because we got to hustle.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a hustle. Ready, w what did you do? Shoot? Ready?

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<v Speaker 2>One?

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<v Speaker 1>Two?

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<v Speaker 2>Three? Shoots? Oh? I was scissors. He was Rocky West.

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<v Speaker 2>I was because I was on a roll there for

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<v Speaker 2>a while.

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<v Speaker 1>I do. All right, here's my first one. My first

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<v Speaker 1>one is there's there seems to never be a Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>that has passed in my family where we do not

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<v Speaker 1>either drive through a lighting show or walk through a

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<v Speaker 1>lighting show. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's one of my wife's favorite things. We do it

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<v Speaker 2>all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's my.

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<v Speaker 2>First favorite thing. Okay, one of my favorite things. I

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<v Speaker 2>love helping pass out presents. I love it. Oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's fun. The delight of that running around, digging through

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<v Speaker 2>the pile trying to figure out who's for who and

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<v Speaker 2>shaking it going out and remember what's in here? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know that kind of stuff that's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>My number two is going to be I grew up

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<v Speaker 1>observing a lot of the Italian traditions because I'm fifty

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<v Speaker 1>percent Italian, but I didn't ever grow up. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also fifty percent German, and so the German piece

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<v Speaker 1>of me didn't. We didn't really do a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>German traditions, right. But the one German tradition that I

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<v Speaker 1>do and every year my kids absolutely love it, is

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<v Speaker 1>there's a pickle. It's called something. Oh, I can't believe

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<v Speaker 1>it's grishwins gershon.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna have to look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, The point is is that we thank you, you

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<v Speaker 1>do it, Okay, I got there, so anyway, The point

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<v Speaker 1>is is that we open all the presents and then

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<v Speaker 1>we have an extra present, and the person who gets

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<v Speaker 1>the extra present has to find the pickle on the ornament.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an ornament pickle. So the kids will leave and

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll literally it's green so it looks like the tree,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll hide the pickle somewhere in the tree. Then

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<v Speaker 1>we say go, they all run back in and they

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<v Speaker 1>just race to find the pickle the gir and whoever

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<v Speaker 1>finds the gurk on first gets.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good one. That's a fun little tradition. I

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<v Speaker 2>like to help do the cooking. Oh yeah, nice, So

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<v Speaker 2>whatever the big meal is, I like to help do

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<v Speaker 2>the cooking. I like the smells of Christmas Thanksgiving. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the third.

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<v Speaker 1>One is we always order Christmas pajamas. We do it

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<v Speaker 1>on Christmas Eve and then we take pictures.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my wife always does that for the kids too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's always.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that's my third.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay for me, I think I don't know, boy, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>out of things for Christmas Christmas music. I like, we

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<v Speaker 2>like the Christmas music, like Christmas Day Christmas music. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right after Thanksgiving. I don't think you should be

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<v Speaker 2>listening to Christmas music before Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I'd stop it. The only thing I allow,

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<v Speaker 1>okay before Thanksgiving is music because I think that music

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<v Speaker 1>sort of has taken over Thanksgivings listening.

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<v Speaker 2>He's listening to thanks Christmas music and tap dancing before Thanksgiving?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, well I mean in this Thanksgiving I did. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>here's my fourth one. My fourth one is when I

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<v Speaker 1>was little, my father, in order to help us clean up,

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<v Speaker 1>he would he would pretend that a trash bag was

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why, but he would call it a monkey,

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<v Speaker 1>even though it looks like if you're going to use

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<v Speaker 1>it as a mouth, it's more like a hippopotamus or something, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why, but he would say, feed the monkey,

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<v Speaker 1>and and and we would. We would run around with

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<v Speaker 1>all the Christmas wrappers, right, because you know, everybody wraps

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<v Speaker 1>and pick it. So so in order to keep a

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<v Speaker 1>clean house. As we unwrapped, he would say, feed the monkey.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's a and that's what I do with my kids.

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<v Speaker 1>So if I don't do it, everybody's radically disappointed. So

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<v Speaker 1>I hold the trash bag and I say feed the monkey,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they throw it, throw it over. And when

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<v Speaker 2>That, that's that's fun. It is fun, all right. So

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<v Speaker 2>that was three? Was that four piece? That's four for me,

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<v Speaker 2>four for you? So I have to have one more.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, we're supposed to five.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it doesn't say five.

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<v Speaker 1>It does.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a draft list of your favorite Christmas activities. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>until you two, you have five activities? Okay, So my

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<v Speaker 2>fifth one would the leftovers. I love like the leftovers

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<v Speaker 2>going up making leftovers.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's not your fifth one's your fourth one, but.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my fourth one.

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<v Speaker 1>We ended it fourth. Okay, we'll do four.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay for four love leftovers Christmas leftover.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we talked half the time about that, Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I didn't bring it up. I did not bring

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And then honorable mention for me is reading Luke

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<v Speaker 1>chapter two, going to Ohio afterwards the next day.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and then can you hold your breath that whole time? Yeah? Well, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's it. Honorable mentioned for me would be Christmas services.

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<v Speaker 2>So for thirty something years, just doing a good jillion

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas services.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sure. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>We are in Proverbs chapter twenty and Solomon is continuing

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<v Speaker 2>his one liners with regard to why's living. How to

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<v Speaker 2>live a wise life? So he says in verse one,

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<v Speaker 2>wine produces mockers, alcohol leads to brawls. Those led astray

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<v Speaker 2>by drink cannot be wise. The king's fury is like

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<v Speaker 2>a lion's roar. To rouse his anger is to risk

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<v Speaker 2>your life. Avoiding a fight is a mark of honor.

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<v Speaker 2>Only fools insist on coraling those too lazy to plow

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<v Speaker 2>in the right season will have no food at the harvest.

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<v Speaker 2>Though good advice lies deep within the heart, a person

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<v Speaker 2>with understanding will draw it out. Many will say they

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<v Speaker 2>are loyal friends, But who can find one who is

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<v Speaker 2>truly reliable? The godly walk with integrity. Blest are their

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<v Speaker 2>children who follow them. When a king sits in judgment,

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<v Speaker 2>he weighs all the evidence, distinguishing the bad from the good.

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<v Speaker 2>Who can say, I have cleansed my heart, and I

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<v Speaker 2>am peer and free from sin? False weights and unequal measures.

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<v Speaker 2>The Lord detests double standards of every kind. Even children

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<v Speaker 2>are known by the way they act, whether they conduct,

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<v Speaker 2>whether their conduct is pure, and whether it is right.

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<v Speaker 2>Ears to hear and eyes to see both are gifts

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<v Speaker 2>from the Lord. If you love sleep, you will end

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<v Speaker 2>in poverty. Keep your eyes open and there will be

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<v Speaker 2>plenty to eat. The buyer haggles over the price, saying

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<v Speaker 2>it's worthless, and then brags about getting a bargain. Wise

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<v Speaker 2>words are more valuable than much gold, and many rubies

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<v Speaker 2>get security from someone who guarantees the stranger's debt. Get

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<v Speaker 2>a deposit if he does it for foreigners, Stolen bread

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<v Speaker 2>Wait for the Lord to handle the matter right. Wait

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<v Speaker 2>punishment cleanses away evil. Such discipline purifies the heart. Oh yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>Physical punishment cleanses away evil, physical punishment. Wow, did you

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<v Speaker 1>know that there's actually a verse that says, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't a debate for us, but I understand.

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<v Speaker 1>That the debate either for us. But what I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>a debate in elsewhere. But did you know there's actually

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<v Speaker 1>a verse that says, spank your child, he won't die.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a verse that actually says that. Absolutely, it's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's a difference between So there's a place where

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<v Speaker 2>God designed you're not going to die if you get

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<v Speaker 2>spanked there. But that's not beating the body, right right, right, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a when you spank on the place that

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<v Speaker 2>has the most cushioning on the entire body, that's just

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<v Speaker 2>getting a kids attention, as opposed to you know, beating

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<v Speaker 2>their ribs, hitting them in the back, you know, all over.

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<v Speaker 2>Beating a child is different than yeah, you know, swats

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, so I was, I was spanked as

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<v Speaker 1>a kid, and uh and then also we we did

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<v Speaker 1>we did spankings, not very often, but we did. But

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<v Speaker 1>do you know that one we did it for sport.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm joking somebody. One of the things that my this.

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<v Speaker 2>We were bored Fridays, we didn't have anything to do,

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<v Speaker 2>we were poor, so we just spanked our kids.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so funny. And of course you're joking once again.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what my wife would always say. She'd say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if we're going to discipline our children in

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<v Speaker 1>this way, she goes, what we're going to do is

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to hug them afterwards. You ever did that? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so we did is we did spanking and then and

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<v Speaker 1>afterwards it was always an embrace with and I love

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<v Speaker 1>you and here's the reason why and everything else. So

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<v Speaker 1>it was always like, uh, it was always a discipline

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<v Speaker 1>that everybody you know that the kids hated obviously, but

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, there's nothing they could have done

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<v Speaker 1>to misunderstand it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, my wife and I we we we worked

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<v Speaker 2>hard to never discipline in anger. Yeah, right, so go

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<v Speaker 2>to your room. It's coming kind of a thing while

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<v Speaker 2>we calm down or whatever. And then oftentimes I can

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<v Speaker 2>remember multiple times, you know, really having kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>broken heart about the situation and say, you know that,

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<v Speaker 2>and have to remind myself that this is I my

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<v Speaker 2>they're very young, when they're younger, you know, not when

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<v Speaker 2>they're fifteen, that's a different thing at that point. But

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<v Speaker 2>when you have a young child one, it doesn't take

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<v Speaker 2>as much exertion and it doesn't take as much physical right,

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of swats because that child, what you want

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<v Speaker 2>to do is bend that child's will back to yours. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>so there will is bent away from you. And so

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<v Speaker 2>then this that's the phrase there that this fun is.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, physical punishment cleanses away evil. Such discipline piers

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<v Speaker 2>of purifies heart. It's about recapturing their heart. There are

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<v Speaker 2>consequences to bad behavior, but I love you, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm not going to let you go down that path.

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<v Speaker 2>And what I think we have in a society day

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<v Speaker 2>because of that debate about you know, disciplining our children

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<v Speaker 2>in years past, we have a society of people who

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<v Speaker 2>don't really believe that there's consequences to their bad behavior.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you are around a child who was biblically disciplined,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying abused discipline. Most of those children and

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<v Speaker 2>most of those adults have a strong sense that there

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<v Speaker 2>are consequences to bad behavior, right, And and so what

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<v Speaker 2>you're trying to do is like that verse we read

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<v Speaker 2>the other day where Solomon said a couple of days

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<v Speaker 2>ago where sounds the discipline your children early because you

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<v Speaker 2>know you're going to run out of opportunities to correct them.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's that's what it's hope, Yeah, while there's still hope. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's really the idea, is that you're not abusing them,

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<v Speaker 2>you're just moving their heart back to yours.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Another thing that stands out for me is there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of verses in this chapter about honesty, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, there's there's there's a lot that talks

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<v Speaker 1>about you know, false weights and measures, dishonest scales, stolen

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<v Speaker 1>bread that tastes sweet but it turns to gravel in

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<v Speaker 1>the mouth. But what a heck of a what a

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<v Speaker 1>heck of a word picture that is, Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Stolen bread tastes sweet, but it turns to gravel in

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<v Speaker 1>the mouth, and and and that would be like the

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<v Speaker 1>instant gratification of obtaining something in a bad way, eventually

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<v Speaker 1>turning to what misery right, turning to you know, guilt right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then maybe even consequences right, but gravel in your mouth?

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<v Speaker 1>Holy cow? What a picture from sweet bread to grovel right?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow? So you know, the verse four always gets my attention.

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<v Speaker 2>With those too lazy to plow in the right season,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll have no food in the harvest. There's an order

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<v Speaker 2>to life. Yeah, you do things in the right way,

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<v Speaker 2>in the right order, and you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Expect a good harvest.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of times people get things out of order

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<v Speaker 2>and then are surprised that either they're harvesting the wrong

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<v Speaker 2>thing or that there wasn't anything there for them when

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<v Speaker 2>it was time. Right. And so you have to have

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<v Speaker 2>the wherewithal, you have to have the energy, And a

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<v Speaker 2>on I just don't even know what I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>do with my life. I don't even know where I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to go in life. I don't know what I

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<v Speaker 2>want out of life. And I'm like, well, then you

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<v Speaker 2>need to learn a few things. You need to learn

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<v Speaker 2>a strong work ethic. You need to learn integrity, need

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<v Speaker 2>to learn to walk with God, how to pray, how

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<v Speaker 2>to study the Bible. And then always say you need

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<v Speaker 2>some basic business ideas and you need some good customer service.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you don't know anything else, do those five

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<v Speaker 2>things right. And what you're doing is you're plowing today, right, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So all you're doing is preparing the field today. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what plowing is. So plowing is not planting. Plowing is

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<v Speaker 2>not fertilizing. Plowing is not pulling the weeds and making

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<v Speaker 2>sure that the plants grow well or giving them good

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<v Speaker 2>sunshine and good rain. Plowing is not harvesting. Plowing is

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<v Speaker 2>just preparing the field, getting it ready to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to receive everything else that's going to be necessary. And

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<v Speaker 2>there is a natural time in your life when you're

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<v Speaker 2>young like that, you know, as you're coming into adulthood,

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<v Speaker 2>where there are just basic things that every field needs,

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<v Speaker 2>and so you need those things. Learn to walk with God,

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<v Speaker 2>Learn to have a we're good work ethic, Learn to

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<v Speaker 2>have integrity and do the right thing. Learn some basic

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<v Speaker 2>business concepts. You know how to balance your books, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>how to manage money and then learn good.

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<v Speaker 1>Custom my service.

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<v Speaker 2>Those things will carry you through in any direction in

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<v Speaker 2>your life later. So plow the field today, you'll be

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<v Speaker 1>That's great. Hey, there's another verse here that says the

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<v Speaker 1>buyer haggles over the price, saying it's worthless. And I

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<v Speaker 1>love egs about getting a bargain. I got a funny story.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was in college, I bought you remember Chevy Barrettas. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I bought a Chevy Barretta and I let the oil

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<v Speaker 1>to the junk yard, you know, had somebody to do

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<v Speaker 1>it for him obviously, and throw this engine in and

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<v Speaker 1>then he bought me this, you know. So I had

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, I took it to my first church, had

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<v Speaker 1>it for like six or seven years, this Chevy Barretta,

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<v Speaker 1>and it came time where my father in law, who

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<v Speaker 1>at the time doesn't anymore. But at the time, he

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<v Speaker 1>just being generous with us. Wanted to give us a car.

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<v Speaker 1>it for, and then give me the money and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>give you this. You know, this brand new Buick Electra

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<v Speaker 1>and it was new or whatever. So anyway, so I

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<v Speaker 1>now in Bible College, and he goes, hey, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to buy this car for my son. And now knowing

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<v Speaker 1>have done. The car's worth like fifty five hundred. I said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>done that, right, I should have tried to get a

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<v Speaker 1>good deal, right, But I was, you know, I was thinking, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>so here's what I say. That's fine, right, And so

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<v Speaker 1>I give it to him for thirty five hundred, thinking

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just really trying to be a blessing, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, well, you know, he's a good guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's or head deacon, you know whatever. So anyway, so

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<v Speaker 1>that whole thing transacts. He goes around to this little

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<v Speaker 1>that was worth fifty five hundred people. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>how good of a negotiator he was, and nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>the engine went bad. Oh no, the engine that my

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<v Speaker 1>father might put in, Oh it was good for seven years.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, the entire engine went bad. Secretly I was happy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh, you're a bad person, I know, but I

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<v Speaker 2>was so upset. So you've been all over the world

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<v Speaker 2>in markets where you have to haggle, right, So it's

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<v Speaker 2>really a weird thing in the West to have to

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<v Speaker 2>argue about a price, unless you're like at a yard

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<v Speaker 2>sale or something like that. Yes, yes, but I love

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<v Speaker 2>going into the markets overseas somewhere, especially in the Middle East,

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<v Speaker 2>because you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to war.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, they're planning on it, you're planning for most of it.

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<v Speaker 2>They sound angry, Like my wife. I took it to

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<v Speaker 2>Morocco with me one time, Mary Cash, and she just

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<v Speaker 2>was so intimidated in those markets, and I kept trying

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<v Speaker 2>to tell her. I so just understand, they're not mad

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<v Speaker 2>at you. They just sound mad at you. It's they're

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<v Speaker 2>doing it because it's fun for them. It's not fun

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<v Speaker 2>to you. It's fun to them, and they're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get as much out of it as possible. But I said,

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<v Speaker 2>you never have to worry. They will never lose money.

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<v Speaker 1>They will let you walk out the door before they.

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<v Speaker 2>Lose a dime. Right, So if they're willing to finally

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<v Speaker 2>close the deal, they're going to tell you how horrible

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<v Speaker 2>you are that you're stealing money from their children. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter if they sell it to you. They're making a.

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<v Speaker 1>Product, which is good for a thinker, so you and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Love it, but for my wife, who's so emotional, it

448
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<v Speaker 2>was pretty brutal. So we go in and I go

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<v Speaker 2>into this one market one time, and this guy was

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<v Speaker 2>just going after me. And I knew what the general

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<v Speaker 2>prices were for things. I mean, I've done a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of these kinds of things, and I wanted to bring

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<v Speaker 2>home a couple of alabaster candle holders. They're beautiful. You

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<v Speaker 2>put a candle in there and they glow. This beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>alabaster car got a bunch of so and this store

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<v Speaker 2>that I like to go to, it's in conne Khally,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a in Cairo. It's a fifteen hundred year old

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<v Speaker 2>market and the family, the same family has owned that

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<v Speaker 2>shop for over three hundred years. He's he's the sixth

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<v Speaker 2>grandson or seventh grandson that's owned this company, and they

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<v Speaker 2>also owned the mine where they mine the alabaster, and

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<v Speaker 2>then he was the carving company good him.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's really fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>So I know this guy, I've bought a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>things from him, and I come in and for a

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<v Speaker 2>second he forgot who I was, so he just jack's

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<v Speaker 2>the price way up and I was like, hey, I've

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<v Speaker 2>bought things here before, and you can kind of see this.

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<v Speaker 2>His eyes are starting to like maybe he recognized me, couldn't,

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<v Speaker 2>So he lowers a little bit. So then I just

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<v Speaker 2>start hammering him on price to get down to where

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<v Speaker 2>I want to go. And then you know you always

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<v Speaker 2>offer to buy two or three once you get the

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<v Speaker 2>price as low as you think you can get it there,

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<v Speaker 2>then you offered to buy two or three more. Because

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<v Speaker 2>I'd already planned buy him more anyways, So I start

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<v Speaker 2>stacking it on, I stick it, and finally he starts

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<v Speaker 2>pretending like he's mad, and he's like, you are stealing

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<v Speaker 2>you understand, If I sell it to you at that price,

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<v Speaker 2>you are stealing from me, and you're taking food off

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<v Speaker 2>my child's table. And I said, no, I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>offer to pay for your child's bread tomorrow. That's all

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to do. But hey, if you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to sell it to me, then that's fine. I'll go

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<v Speaker 2>to your neighbor right next door. They sell the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I start walking. I goes, no, no, no, I'll sell

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<v Speaker 2>it to you. And so I said okay, and I

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<v Speaker 2>felt like I'd got him. Basically, where I wanted to go.

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<v Speaker 2>So then I go to pay for it, and then

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<v Speaker 2>he goes, we hey, let me ask you. Would you

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<v Speaker 2>be interested in these things too? And I said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>we'd have to negotiate. He says, no, no, no, you're

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<v Speaker 2>a fair man. I said, what you said. You just

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<v Speaker 2>told me I was taking food off the table. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just playing with you, a right, So then we

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<v Speaker 2>wrap it all up. I buy this stuff, and then

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<v Speaker 2>after that, every time I walk into his story, I've

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<v Speaker 2>been in this store now probably six times. He recognizes me.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he says, here's a shrewd negotiator, right, but then

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<v Speaker 2>he always jacks the price way up, right because he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to come back down. But I've heard him multiple

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<v Speaker 2>times and he would talk about you know, I was

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<v Speaker 2>like this guy, I always make good money off of him,

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<v Speaker 2>is what he says to me. Now, whereas that day

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, you're stealing money from my tu So that's

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<v Speaker 2>what Solomon's talking about here. It's that kind of idea.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels good to haggle. It feels good when you're

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<v Speaker 2>on the winning side of a debate like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so great, Ye, that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>So really, I think The principle there for us in

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<v Speaker 2>the West, quite honestly, is when it comes working for

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<v Speaker 2>a fair price for you, learning that win win solution,

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<v Speaker 2>and then having a comfortability to walk away. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Want you to lose money, but I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>lose money either. So if you're willing to let me

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<v Speaker 2>walk away and my price, I can't get the price

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<v Speaker 2>where I want it. That's okay. And there is some

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<v Speaker 2>danger for young people walking on the car lot or

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<v Speaker 2>buying a new home or something like that where we

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<v Speaker 2>overpay trying to be nice. And what we're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>do is find a win win solution where he makes

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<v Speaker 2>a profit and I'm able to walk away and well,

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<v Speaker 2>I got a great deal, that's what you want.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's so much more in here that again, just

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<v Speaker 1>if you want a homework assignment, go back through. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we didn't even touch you know, don't say

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get even for this wrong. Wait for the Lord

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<v Speaker 1>to handle the matter. It's about revenge and God getting

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<v Speaker 1>the vengeance right. There's again, there's just so much in

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<v Speaker 1>there about honesty. You know, Hey, don't trap yourself by

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<v Speaker 1>making a rash promise to God and only later counting

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<v Speaker 1>the cost. That's a sermon altogether, that is a whole sermon.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't even touch the king's theory, which is this

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<v Speaker 2>the second time he talks about that, Yes, right in here,

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<v Speaker 2>or it's like a lion, or the danger of alcohol.

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<v Speaker 2>He just says, it's just everything about life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right, that's right. So hey, that is our time.

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<v Speaker 1>We're at twenty five minutes, so hopefully we will see

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<v Speaker 1>you tomorrow on the Bible. Guys,