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<v Speaker 3>Well, today we're going to find out that Paul joins

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<v Speaker 3>the Jedi Council. What I'm sorry, the Jerusalem Council.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, well that makes more sense. He's Chris, I'm Jeff.

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<v Speaker 2>We're the Bible guys. So Chris, we've been talking the

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<v Speaker 2>last several days out of the Book of Galatians. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's really talking a lot about the laws and

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<v Speaker 2>faith and all that kind of stuff, and so it

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<v Speaker 2>just and now they're getting ready today we're going to talk.

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<v Speaker 2>The council in Jerusalem is going to argue over the

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<v Speaker 2>law a little bit. So there's some really weird laws

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<v Speaker 2>on the books.

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<v Speaker 3>You're talking about four Michigan and oh.

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<v Speaker 2>All around the country states have some really weird loss.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is our segment. We're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>funny laws.

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<v Speaker 2>Little yeah, weird loss, Yeah, funny loss. So did you

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<v Speaker 2>know in the state of Michigan it's against the law

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<v Speaker 2>that cuts in front of women and children?

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<v Speaker 3>I did not know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, watch your mouth.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, so that means if you're in

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<v Speaker 3>a group of men, it's it's legal to cuss.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, men can handle it.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that what it is?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, hey, forget about equality.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's but watch your mouth.

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<v Speaker 3>Women should strive for cussing.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently, get out on protest.

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<v Speaker 3>You can cuts in front of us.

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<v Speaker 2>How about none of us cuss? That might be better.

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<v Speaker 2>That'd be better.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that'd be a polite society, wouldn't it. Did you

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<v Speaker 3>also know that in Michigan it's illegal, actually illegal to

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<v Speaker 3>be drunk on a train?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, yeah, a lot of people are on trains.

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually there's a train that goes around for wine testing

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<v Speaker 3>in Michigan.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well you better be careful.

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<v Speaker 3>They stop and then they do stops and the u

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<v Speaker 3>wine testing and you're on a train.

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<v Speaker 2>But so, how drunk is drunk? Like are they saying

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<v Speaker 2>legally drunk? Because I mean, if you just have one drink,

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<v Speaker 2>you're drunker then without any drinks.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think there is a legal thing for drunks.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the number A number.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's point I don't know eight. Okay, is

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<v Speaker 3>it point zero eight?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm not even gonna worry about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to stay at point zero zero zero.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it's point zero eight. You have to blow.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So did you know that in Virginia no hunting

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<v Speaker 2>on Sundays unless you're hunting raccoons. You know, literally, it

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<v Speaker 2>says it's illegal to here's the cart. Wow, It's illegal

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<v Speaker 2>to quote hunt or kill any wild bird or wild animal,

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<v Speaker 2>including any news species. However, it is permissible to kill raccoons.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, how about this one. In Louisiana, there is no

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<v Speaker 3>surprise pizza deliveries. You can be fine five hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 3>for sending a pizza order to someone's house without his

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<v Speaker 3>or her knowledge.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever done that?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, we did that in college, did you. Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we just have pizzas delivered to people.

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<v Speaker 3>So they made a law. So all the pizza companies

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<v Speaker 3>got together and was like this nonsense.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, Senator, we need to talk about something serious.

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<v Speaker 2>And then in Oklahoma, did you know eavesdropping is illegal?

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<v Speaker 2>That's eavesdropping. According to state law, it says, quote, every

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<v Speaker 2>person guilty of secretly loitering about any building with intent

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<v Speaker 2>to overhear discourse therein, and to repeat or publish the

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<v Speaker 2>same to vex, annoy or injure others is guilty of

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<v Speaker 2>a misdemeanor. Wow, vex annoy or injure others.

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<v Speaker 3>That is carefully worded.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>And no eavesdropping. So so you see somebody eavesdropping and

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<v Speaker 3>you're like, you're like, hey, you can't do that, and

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<v Speaker 3>they're like, mind your own business, and you're like, it's

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<v Speaker 3>the law.

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<v Speaker 2>They literally outlawed the town gossips, right, that's what they did.

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<v Speaker 2>They outlawed them. It's a misdemeanor.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a good law that should stay in play.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Oklahoma is known for that, you know, those gossips.

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<v Speaker 2>All those gossips in Oklahoma. Yeah, I'm so glad we're

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<v Speaker 2>not from Oklahoma. You know, I got a job offer.

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<v Speaker 2>We're sorry, We're sorry, Oklahoma listeners.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually actually get a job offer in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma,

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<v Speaker 3>and out of all the job offers I've ever been

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<v Speaker 3>offered in my entire life, it was by far the

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<v Speaker 3>most compelling. Really, it was unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can't even believe I said, other than the

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<v Speaker 2>one to heritage.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I actually yeah. So so in terms of salary

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<v Speaker 3>and position and responsibility numbers and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Else, that's pretty pretty compelling.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't compare.

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<v Speaker 2>So the I think it's a good law. I think

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<v Speaker 2>we should outlaw eavesdropping here in Michigan. That's great. If

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<v Speaker 2>I have a run for governor, that's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a pillar of my campaign.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm sure that people are going to support that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. I don't want any any eavesdropping for the

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<v Speaker 2>purpose of vexing or annoying others. So that's good vexing. Okay. So,

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<v Speaker 2>So anyways, the whole thing comes out of the idea

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, Paul has been talking about trying to

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<v Speaker 2>differentiate between the value of law, the laws of God,

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<v Speaker 2>and the way of salvation and being made right with

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<v Speaker 2>God is through faith, not through the law. So the

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<v Speaker 2>law has benefits, but the law can't save you and

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<v Speaker 2>get you to heaven. So now particularly he's talking about

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<v Speaker 2>the Jewish law.

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<v Speaker 3>So now we're jumping back to X fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>We're jumping back to X fifteen because remember the Book

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<v Speaker 2>of Glatians was written there at like forty eight a d.

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<v Speaker 2>By forty nine AD, all of the big leaders of

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<v Speaker 2>the church are are being kind of bombarded with the

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<v Speaker 2>same idea because throughout all of Christianity, Christianity spread first

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<v Speaker 2>and the Jewish community is quite shocked that there's no

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<v Speaker 2>requirement that they have to become Jewish first. And so

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<v Speaker 2>the finally here there's this big council. I think you

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<v Speaker 2>said somewhere it's the first big conference. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a big church conference, I guess, But it's

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<v Speaker 3>really it's more of a council. It's referred to as

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<v Speaker 3>the Jerusalem Council. And they come from anywhere from it's

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<v Speaker 3>all over Jerusalem and Antioch, and those church leaders have

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<v Speaker 3>come together to form this council to talk about these things.

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<v Speaker 3>And after the dispute, my notes say, a dispute among

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<v Speaker 3>the Jewish believers got Paul Barnabas and the leaders of

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<v Speaker 3>Jerusalem and Antioch together to discuss the situation with the

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<v Speaker 3>leaders there, and after the Jerusalem Council made this decision,

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<v Speaker 3>Paul and Barnabas returned to Antioch with the news.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, so this could have this idea of whether

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<v Speaker 2>or not Gentiles have to follow Jewish laws in order

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<v Speaker 2>to be Christians could have had devastating consequences if they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't handle this correctly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because we're all anybody who is a Gentile is

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<v Speaker 3>a non Jewish person, right, right, So gentiles refers to

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<v Speaker 3>everyone who's not Jewish, just in case we have listeners

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<v Speaker 3>that don't understand.

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<v Speaker 2>That, right. Yeah, we're explaining that for my brother's sake,

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<v Speaker 2>because he doesn't understand most of what we say. I

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<v Speaker 2>think from now on and anytime we have to explain

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<v Speaker 2>somethinge to say, Mark, this is what it means.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that way, shots fired, bang bang.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't listen. So, but the idea here being that

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<v Speaker 2>I love this passage because it kind of gives us

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<v Speaker 2>a model. What do you do when there's a crisis,

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<v Speaker 2>or there's a struggle, or there's a disagreement with regard

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<v Speaker 2>to theology in the Church. And this is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the things the benefit of bringing the qualified leaders in

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<v Speaker 2>multiple people to talk about it. It's not just one

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<v Speaker 2>dictator saying, thus saith the Lord. It's a plurality of

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<v Speaker 2>leadership coming together to work through, talk it out, wrestle.

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<v Speaker 2>And there are people on two different sides, multiple sides

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<v Speaker 2>of this argument, and they're sorting it out. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that there's a lot to be said, especially in

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<v Speaker 2>our current culture, about taking the time to be civil,

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<v Speaker 2>to be ladies and gentlemen, and to have a civil

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<v Speaker 2>discourse about things that you're disagreeing about, particularly trying to

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<v Speaker 2>find what is the Holy Spirit telling us to do,

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<v Speaker 2>rooting it in scripture. So with all that being said,

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<v Speaker 2>let's read these first twenty one verses and it'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>the story for us better than you and I can.

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<v Speaker 2>Says So. While Paul and Barnabas were at Antioch of Syrias,

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<v Speaker 2>some men from Judea arrived and began to teach the believers.

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<v Speaker 2>Unless you are circumcised, as required by the law of Moses,

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<v Speaker 2>you cannot be saved. Paul and Barnabas disagreed with them,

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<v Speaker 2>arguing vehemently. Finally, the church decided to send Paul and

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<v Speaker 2>Barnabas to Jerusalem, accompanied by some local believers, to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to the apostles and elders about this question. The church

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<v Speaker 2>sent the delegates to Jerusalem, and they stopped along the

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<v Speaker 2>way in Phoenicians Sumeriati visit the believers, and they told them,

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<v Speaker 2>much to everyone's joy, that the gentiles too were being converted.

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<v Speaker 2>When they arrived in Jerusalem, Barnabas and Paul were welcomed

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<v Speaker 2>by the whole church, including the apostles and elders. They

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<v Speaker 2>reported everything God had done through them. But then some

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<v Speaker 2>of the believers who belonged to the sect of the Pharisee,

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<v Speaker 2>stood up and insisted the gentile converts must be circumcised

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<v Speaker 2>and required to follow the law of Moses. So the

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<v Speaker 2>apostles and elders met together to resolve this issue. At

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<v Speaker 2>the meeting. After a long discussion, Peter stood and addressed

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<v Speaker 2>them as follows, brothers, you all know that God chose

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<v Speaker 2>me from among you some time ago to preach to

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<v Speaker 2>the gentiles so that they could hear the good news

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<v Speaker 2>and believe. God knows people's hearts. And he confirmed that

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<v Speaker 2>He accepts gentiles by giving them the Holy spirit, just

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<v Speaker 2>as he did to us. He made no distinction between

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<v Speaker 2>us and them, for He cleansed their hearts through faith.

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<v Speaker 2>So why are you now challenging God by burdening the

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<v Speaker 2>Gentile believers with a yoke that neither we nor our

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<v Speaker 2>ancestors were able to bear. We believe that we are

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<v Speaker 2>all saved the same way, by the undeserved grace of

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<v Speaker 2>the Lord Jesus. Everyone listened quietly as Barnabas and Paul

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<v Speaker 2>through them among the Gentiles. When they had finished, James

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<v Speaker 2>stood and said, brothers, listen to me. Peter has told

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<v Speaker 2>you about the time God first visited the Gentiles to

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<v Speaker 2>take from them a people for himself. And this conversion

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<v Speaker 2>of Gentiles is exactly what the prophets predicted, as it

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<v Speaker 2>so that the rest of humanity might seek the Lord,

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<v Speaker 2>including the Gentiles, all those I have called to be mine.

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<v Speaker 2>The Lord has spoken, he who made these things known

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<v Speaker 2>so long ago, And so my judgment is that we

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<v Speaker 2>turning to God. Instead, we should write and tell them

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<v Speaker 2>to abstain from eating food offered idols, from sexual immorality,

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<v Speaker 2>For these laws of Moses have been preaching Jewish synagogues

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<v Speaker 2>An he kind of ends there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so there it is. There's the beginning of the

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<v Speaker 3>Pharisees stood up and insisted because so.

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<v Speaker 2>This was a Christian pharisee.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I mean that was just about say that. I

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<v Speaker 3>was about saying there's a lot going on there, because

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<v Speaker 3>the Old Testament. They were short of the religious leaders

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<v Speaker 3>when Jesus came to walk the earth. And quite honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not even close the number of times that Jesus

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<v Speaker 3>rebuked somebody, it was most likely a religious leader or

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<v Speaker 3>a pharisee. And it's not because they were necessarily bad people,

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<v Speaker 3>though a lot of them were a lot of them

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<v Speaker 3>just were misguided and misled, and they believed with their

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<v Speaker 2>Doing Righties typically would have been more evil inside. Their

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<v Speaker 2>exterior would have been very clean living, yeah, right, they

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<v Speaker 2>would have been. They would have appeared to be upstanding

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<v Speaker 2>moral citizens in the community, but they were very judgmental

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<v Speaker 2>and angry and hateful inside.

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<v Speaker 3>So in other words, they didn't necessarily cuss out loud.

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<v Speaker 3>But were they ever? Were they spit the grass dies?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, exactly. So here we are roughly twenty years

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<v Speaker 2>in from the resurrection, right, and at this point now

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<v Speaker 2>Christianity has spread through all of Israel, gone up through

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<v Speaker 2>leben At what is now modern day Lebanon, and Syria.

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<v Speaker 2>this point, over into Crete, the island of Crete. It's

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<v Speaker 2>really starting to spread. It spread originally through the synagogues,

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<v Speaker 2>through the Jewish synagogues. The majority of the original Christians

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<v Speaker 2>in this first twenty years were Jewish. But then it

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<v Speaker 2>was a surprise that God was making this gospel available

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<v Speaker 2>to everybody. And they're saying, the Pharisees, go Ah, they

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<v Speaker 2>need to be convert to Judaism first, and then they

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<v Speaker 2>can be Christians because Jesus is the Jewish Messiah. And

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<v Speaker 2>Peter was like, wait a minute, We've already dealt with this.

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<v Speaker 2>We dealt with this the last time we gathered together

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<v Speaker 2>to talked about it. Remember back to Cornelius. We talked

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<v Speaker 2>about the Holy Spirit because Peter kind of got in

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<v Speaker 2>trouble for baptizing Cornelius, remember, in his household, And he says, so,

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<v Speaker 2>we've already dealt with this, and you guys all agreed

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<v Speaker 2>that they also receive the Holy Spirit. That's the confirmation

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<v Speaker 2>that the Gospel is available to the Gentiles. And then

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<v Speaker 2>Paul and Barnabas talk about the miracles God did among them,

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<v Speaker 2>and that seemed to be fairly sufficient. But then James

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<v Speaker 2>steps up and he goes, let's go one step further.

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<v Speaker 2>This is an actual fulfillment a scripture. And he so

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't just take Paul's or Peter's testimony. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>just take Paul and Barnabas's testimony. He compares it with

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<v Speaker 2>what the scriptures actually say, and the scriptures in the

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<v Speaker 2>book of what book was this that he was quoting from.

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<v Speaker 3>The book of Amos.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it Amos?

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<v Speaker 1>It was?

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<v Speaker 2>He's quoting from Amos and it literally says, so that

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<v Speaker 2>the gentiles can also bear my.

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<v Speaker 3>Name Chapter nine, Verses eleven and twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, isn't that great? And so yes, testimony is important,

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<v Speaker 2>personal experience is important, Holy Spirit experience is important. But

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<v Speaker 2>none of those things will ever that the biblical things

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<v Speaker 2>will never cross scripture. And so he was able to

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<v Speaker 2>confirm it through scripture that God had already promised the

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<v Speaker 2>gentiles will be followers.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let me, let me, let me uh, sort of

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<v Speaker 3>applied this to today. So let's let's let's give this

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<v Speaker 3>pharisee who stands up and says these comments, let's give

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<v Speaker 3>him totally the benefit of the death. Sure, right, sure,

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<v Speaker 3>trying to do the right thing, because after all, he's

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<v Speaker 3>now a Christian. Right, So these aren't like the evil

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<v Speaker 3>pharisees that are, you know, spitting in the grass dying.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a guy probably who has sort of accepted

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<v Speaker 3>that Jesus is the answer to the scriptures, that he

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<v Speaker 3>knows right. And so I could totally see where a

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<v Speaker 3>pharisee would say, well, oh no, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 3>bend on the on this rule right, you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>whole circumcision, because that's always been a requirement. And I've

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<v Speaker 3>given my whole life to this, you know, and so

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<v Speaker 3>therefore it's still our God, it's still our religion, right,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. Any An, he's sort of like not bending

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<v Speaker 3>on something and instead of like trying to compare it

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<v Speaker 3>to you know, the the evidence of God, the Word

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<v Speaker 3>of God, the visions that Peter had, every everything else

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<v Speaker 3>that God has declared as clean. Instead of doing all

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<v Speaker 3>of that, this guy sort of hangs on to something

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<v Speaker 3>that he's not willing to let go. And so you know,

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<v Speaker 3>what it reminds me of is do you ever get

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<v Speaker 3>somebody who's mad at something in the church, Like somebody

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<v Speaker 3>just gets mad every day? Yes, And what they do

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<v Speaker 3>is so think about this. Okay, So you know, we

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<v Speaker 3>we work really hard to put on services, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and by the way, not just us. Church is all

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<v Speaker 3>over right, and and somebody will get upset about something,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not mad at people for getting mad at things,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, for questioning things. We should always be willing

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<v Speaker 3>to be questioned always.

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<v Speaker 2>The Brians, the Book of Act celebrated the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>the Brians went home and checked out what Peter was.

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<v Speaker 2>So check it out.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me go on record and say anybody, anytime somebody

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<v Speaker 3>comes to me and says, hey, I can't believe you

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<v Speaker 3>don't do communion every week, and I'm upset about it

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<v Speaker 3>because because because you know, I'm just really upset, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'll say, well, let's look at that together, right, Because

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<v Speaker 3>the Bible actually doesn't give a requirement on how often,

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<v Speaker 3>although the tradition of some religions and faiths say that

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<v Speaker 3>they do it every week, some do it once a month,

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<v Speaker 3>some do it like once a year, right, but it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't matter how often you do it. As often as

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<v Speaker 3>you do it, do it rememberance of me. So but

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<v Speaker 3>it could be worse than that. I could be like

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<v Speaker 3>I was offended by this lyric of a song or

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<v Speaker 3>whatever it is. But whatever it is, I love the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that clearly we know reading this story that this

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<v Speaker 3>Pharisee is in the wrong right. And yet instead of

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<v Speaker 3>shaming or anything like that, what they did was they

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<v Speaker 3>gathered together and said, okay, let's talk about this, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's really measured against scripture, and eventually what we're about

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<v Speaker 3>to see, is this Pharisee's going to concede not because

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<v Speaker 3>he's a bad or a good person, but probably because

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<v Speaker 3>he sort of is willing to change his mind and say,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, I think I should be open and

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<v Speaker 3>not so strong willed. It's like, why are you hanging

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<v Speaker 3>on to this position? And so he eventually let's go

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<v Speaker 3>of this position, and he's open to the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>this is what God says about it, this is how

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<v Speaker 3>God feels about it anyway. All that to say, I

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<v Speaker 3>just think that's completely relevant because I'm assuming most of

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<v Speaker 3>our people who are listening are church people in some way,

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<v Speaker 3>probably probably the vast majority, right, and so they relate

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<v Speaker 3>to what I'm saying. They relate to the fact that,

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<v Speaker 3>like we all have disagreements.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So if you look at it, there's three things

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<v Speaker 2>happening here. There's Peter testifying about the Holy Spirit. The

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<v Speaker 2>Holy Spirit confirmed this. Yes, Paul and Barnabas are testifying

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<v Speaker 2>about changed lives. The evidence is their lives are changed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, the Jewish converts r happening.

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<v Speaker 2>And then James steps up and goes and by the

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<v Speaker 2>way Scripture says it, So these three things together, those

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<v Speaker 2>three things confirm it. You know, when I was growing up,

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<v Speaker 2>the version of Christianity that I was in had a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of extra rules, and you know, people get kicked

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<v Speaker 2>out of the church for disobeying specific rules that weren't

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<v Speaker 2>biblical necessarily but were social. For instance, like drums and

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<v Speaker 2>music and Christian music. You were allowed to have drums and.

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<v Speaker 3>Christian music, right, and because it was about was full

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's right, it's it's it's evil, right, it's

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<v Speaker 2>wicked or whatever. And but I would sit in class

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<v Speaker 2>even even the Bible, one of the Bible colleges I

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<v Speaker 2>went to, had very strict rules against drums, and but

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<v Speaker 2>I would sit and I would ask, well, doesn't the

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<v Speaker 2>Bible talk about tambourines and rhythm instruments all the time?

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, that's that's the nature of footloose, it

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<v Speaker 3>says David Danced.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember that, Yeah, yeah, remember that?

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<v Speaker 2>So they had all these reasons why but then it

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<v Speaker 2>turned into well it's a voodoo thing, right, that there's

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<v Speaker 2>But I'll tell you I've sat in the churches in

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<v Speaker 2>Tanzania and in Kenya and in Rwanda and the Uganda,

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<v Speaker 2>and and there there are no other instruments people support.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not. They're not sitting there their trumpets and their

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<v Speaker 2>pipe organs. There's no pipe organ in the little hut

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<v Speaker 2>made out of dung with with you know, a thatched roof.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no pipe organ there to be able to play

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<v Speaker 2>your Western European classical music for Sunday morning. Right, we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna sing praise God from whom all blessings flow. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>There's no Martin Luther songs to be able to be

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<v Speaker 2>sung there. So instead people are just thumping on the

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<v Speaker 2>their seats and stuff. But I can tell you this,

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<v Speaker 2>of the worship I've seen, and the people have the

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<v Speaker 2>correct version about it. And what I'm saying is I

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<v Speaker 2>think that this Pharisee was imposing his cultural lens on

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<v Speaker 2>the faith community, and he was having a hard time

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<v Speaker 2>separating his cultural preferences from what God's word and the

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<v Speaker 2>movement of the Holy Spirit and the results of that

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<v Speaker 2>moon in the Holy Spirit actually we're producing. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's a temptation for us to do often that's

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<v Speaker 2>what you know, when I was grown up, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>so many things. I think we do it in our politics.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think that we ought to have a biblical

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<v Speaker 2>moral worldview as Christians. And you have a vote, and

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<v Speaker 2>your vote matters, and you should vote for what is

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<v Speaker 2>biblical and moral. But we shouldn't then, you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't constantly be trying to create these these fake religious

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<v Speaker 2>have to be very careful about casting this social lens

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<v Speaker 2>from the outside into the church or on the church. Right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And you can just go on and on and on

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<v Speaker 2>and on and on with all these things. So this pharisee,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't surprise me. He lived his whole life as

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<v Speaker 2>a pharisee. Now he's discovering grace. And sometimes we can

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<v Speaker 2>beat up on that guy and think what a jerk. Right, well,

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<v Speaker 2>he was figuring out grace too. He was just figuring

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<v Speaker 2>out from the law side. And then there are people

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<v Speaker 2>who have no law who are trying to figure out.

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<v Speaker 2>So then because we're gonna read more of Paul's writings

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<v Speaker 2>where he's like, quit living like a heathen. Right, when

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<v Speaker 2>he writes to Corinthies, he's like, what in the world

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<v Speaker 2>are living like pagans? Quite living like pagans?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, just because you live in a grace

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't mean there's nothing that's right. The law isn't beneficial.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Book of Romans, he said, what should we then

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<v Speaker 2>just live in sin all the time so that grace

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<v Speaker 2>can abound God forbid? So he's writing to the pagan

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<v Speaker 2>to the people coming from a pagan lifestyle and going, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to come and be more whole in your lifestyle,

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<v Speaker 2>Whereas to the Pharisee, his cultural experience was the other way.

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<v Speaker 2>And both sides need to learn how to live in

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<v Speaker 2>God's grace and extend grace to the other side. And

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<v Speaker 2>so instead of me being angry about the environment I

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<v Speaker 2>grew up in right on some of these things that

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<v Speaker 2>made rules where there were no biblical rules. Instead, I

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<v Speaker 2>can say I can respect and honor them and say

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<v Speaker 2>they were doing the best they could, They were trying

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<v Speaker 2>to honor God. They inadvertently made a rule that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>exist in scripture. But I don't think that they're bad people.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that maybe they just misapplied a few things.

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<v Speaker 2>And so if we can make room for those who

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<v Speaker 2>have stricter rules in us and those who have a

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<v Speaker 2>looser rule than rules in US, extend grace to all

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<v Speaker 2>them because we're all discovering how to live out God's grace.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, it's funny because you often talk to

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<v Speaker 3>me about this, you know, like I get angry at

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<v Speaker 3>my past, you know, for being around the strict people

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<v Speaker 3>that are silly, goofy, and those are polite words. But

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, I actually don't get mad at the people.

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<v Speaker 3>So everything you're saying, I'm I'm trying to measure myself

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<v Speaker 3>and saying is that true for me? It is true.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually don't despise the people who were so goofy

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about no drums in the church. It's sinful.

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<v Speaker 3>What I get angry at, very angry at, is the

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<v Speaker 3>damage that it causes. Because what ends up happening is

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<v Speaker 3>people walk away from church, they walk away from faith,

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<v Speaker 3>they walk away from God. They have horrible church experiences.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know what it's like, It's like setting free

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<v Speaker 3>a bull in a china shop. That's what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Legalism is bulls in the china shop. And what ends

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<v Speaker 3>up happening is is at the end, you know, you

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<v Speaker 3>can just say, oh, the bull didn't know any better.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, that is true, the bull didn't

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<v Speaker 3>know any better. But what you end up having is

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<v Speaker 3>all of your china is broken and your shop is

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely destroyed. And that's what legalism does. It destroys. And

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<v Speaker 3>so I don't get angry at the people I really

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<v Speaker 3>don't like. I get angry at what the potential and

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<v Speaker 3>all the damage that it's reaked over the years. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think that people who are willing I just want

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<v Speaker 3>to go on record and say, the people who are

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<v Speaker 3>just willing to say, hey, I'm open to hearing what

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<v Speaker 3>your view is. It is very reflective of what you

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<v Speaker 3>said at the very beginning of this. The Jerusalem Council,

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<v Speaker 3>the Jerusalem Council coming together with different opinions, and here's

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<v Speaker 3>this Pharisee standing up and instead of them, there's no

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<v Speaker 3>rebuking happening here, right.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 3>No, what they do is they get together and they say,

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<v Speaker 3>let's talk about this and the three things you just said.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's look at the evidence of God, Let's look at

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<v Speaker 3>the Word of God. Let's look at the Holy Spirit

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<v Speaker 3>of God. And that's such an unbelievable place to end.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, Yeah, yeah, I think so. So we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>continue on with this concept because they're going to write

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<v Speaker 2>this letter and they're going to send out and it's

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<v Speaker 2>a beautiful letter that they send to the Gentiles. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's coming up tomorrow. Like us on Facebook, subscribe on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 2>That helps so much, and we'll see you tomorrow. He's Chris,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Jeff, and we're the Bible guys.