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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Hey, everybody, welcome to Friday's version of The

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<v Speaker 1>Bible Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Today's Friday.

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<v Speaker 3>That's amazing it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is it amazing?

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<v Speaker 3>Because we made it the whole week.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh there you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we got all the way through it, the whole thing,

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<v Speaker 3>man oh man.

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<v Speaker 2>For those of us who made it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, So this is everybody's favorite segment because it's Friday,

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<v Speaker 4>is it? Yes, everybody's favorite segment. I just had a

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<v Speaker 4>meeting yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you hear the way that Desiree wrote it? She goes?

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<v Speaker 2>You asked, you asked, we listened, we acted. It's Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're back with your favorite segment.

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<v Speaker 4>Just mad this Well I had a meeting yesterday, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and with some folks and they're really regular listeners to

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<v Speaker 4>the podcast, and they said that what made Chris mad

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<v Speaker 4>this week is their their favorite segment.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So here's what I did before we get into

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<v Speaker 4>what made Chris mad this week. I you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>love AI love it, and so I asked AI knowing

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<v Speaker 4>Chris Arball has a penchant for hyperbole, answer the question

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<v Speaker 4>what made Chris mad this week? And it sort of

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<v Speaker 4>knows me, and yeah, it's amazing. So people, I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 4>I've taken message outlines before and asked chat gpt to

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<v Speaker 4>give us a transcript in Chris Zarba's voice. And it

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<v Speaker 4>starts off the way you start off. It's got a

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<v Speaker 4>ton of you've read it before.

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<v Speaker 2>I've read actual actual phrases.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I use yes, So so AI is really really

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<v Speaker 4>intrigued by you and your personality. If we do it

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<v Speaker 4>for me, it doesn't, it doesn't do it uses more

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<v Speaker 4>Bible verses. That's that's the only difference between how it

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<v Speaker 4>does it for me and does it for you. Mine

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<v Speaker 4>is less personable than yours and uses more Bible verses,

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<v Speaker 4>but yours is way more engaging and way more applicable.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, we can't use too many Bible verses, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right, that's right. But that's the only difference. And

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<v Speaker 4>I wasn't saying that to brag other than I am

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<v Speaker 4>a Bible guy. But beyond that, it's the only like

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<v Speaker 4>it's like, it doesn't have my voice, it just has

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<v Speaker 4>my attitude.

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<v Speaker 2>The Bible guy and his companion named Chris, but.

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<v Speaker 4>It writes it writes, well, I'm pretty sure yesterday you

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<v Speaker 4>said it was you.

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<v Speaker 2>You're the companion.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So anyways, here's what I said. I asked it, knowing

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<v Speaker 4>that Chris Arball has a pension for hyperbole. Answer the

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<v Speaker 4>question what made Chris mad this week? Yep, it reasoned

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<v Speaker 4>for a couple of seconds, and this said. It all

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<v Speaker 4>started when someone dared misplaced Chris's meticulously sharpened pencils by

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<v Speaker 4>a mere two millimeters?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you or don't you have OCD a little bit?

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<v Speaker 2>That is hilarious?

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<v Speaker 3>Huh?

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<v Speaker 2>How did you even know that?

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<v Speaker 3>I know?

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, in classic Chris fanhion, the fashion the minor

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<v Speaker 4>offence got described as the single most catastrophic organizational apocalypse

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<v Speaker 4>in stationary history. From there, every trivial annoyance snowballed. Someone

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<v Speaker 4>used there instead of there. In an email, a Brista

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<v Speaker 4>added whipped cream to his latte unrequested, and even mentioned

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<v Speaker 4>the coworker who spoke at normal volume while Chris was

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<v Speaker 4>clearly trying to drink.

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<v Speaker 2>Is you know what my drink is? And I bet

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<v Speaker 2>that was a lucky yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yet No, you've already talked about Barrista's and serving before. Okay, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so it knows and so you know you basically, every

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<v Speaker 4>each tiny misstep quickly got promoted to a crisis of

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<v Speaker 4>epic proportions, and before you knew it, Chris was convinced

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<v Speaker 4>the universe and conspired to rob him of every ounce

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<v Speaker 4>of peace, every.

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<v Speaker 2>Ounce of piece.

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<v Speaker 1>It knows you talk about hypers. I'm saying that's pretty extreme.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyways, so okay, all right, well okay, so what

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<v Speaker 1>made you mad this week?

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<v Speaker 3>Chris?

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<v Speaker 2>It comes down to one.

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<v Speaker 1>Thing, and this is the thing that everybody can relate to.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that everybody I'm mad on behalf of

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<v Speaker 1>all folks.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Thank you, Chris. We wouldn't have even thought

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<v Speaker 4>to be mad, but thank you for doing it for us.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, tell me you have not experienced this.

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<v Speaker 1>It is when you try to get your broken car

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<v Speaker 1>to perform for the mechanic and make that noise and

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<v Speaker 1>it will not do it right, right, right, So it

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<v Speaker 1>makes the noise, It makes the noise, It makes the noise,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you pull up to the mechanic and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's making this noise and then and then all.

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<v Speaker 2>Of a sudden, it runs perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So this happened to me just like a few

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<v Speaker 2>days ago.

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<v Speaker 1>So so my son, he's in the middle of buying

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<v Speaker 1>a car right now, a truck, and so we're sort

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<v Speaker 1>of using this really really old car that I had

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<v Speaker 1>bought Sarah, and it's just sort of sticking around on

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<v Speaker 1>the driveway. It's a two thousand and eight Ford Focus

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<v Speaker 1>Get like two hundred thousand miles on. It's just pretty

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<v Speaker 1>pathetic anyway. But this this this thing, Fernando is his name,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way.

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<v Speaker 3>The car.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I name car.

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<v Speaker 3>Name is Fernando.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't know I name all my car I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know that. You really didn't know. I name all my cars.

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<v Speaker 1>I've named every car that I've ever had since I've

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<v Speaker 1>since I've been driving.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and even your dealership cars, Uh no, you don't

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<v Speaker 4>you know car that I owned, the ones that you own, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the dealership cars that I'm in, they're all

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<v Speaker 1>John Doe.

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<v Speaker 3>All John Doe, Yeah, every John Doe. Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>So because because I knew that, I knew i'd be

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<v Speaker 1>switching cars anyway, So all my brothers name all their cars.

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<v Speaker 2>All my family names the cars. All my kids named

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<v Speaker 2>the cars.

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<v Speaker 3>So Fernando thousand miles.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of a but he sold Shanaia.

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<v Speaker 1>So I gets old and so so he so he

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<v Speaker 1>puts all his work tools into Fernando and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a small, dinky, little Ford Focus and uh So, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>he gets out there and it's like remember the remember

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<v Speaker 1>last week, uh during uh it was like literally like

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<v Speaker 1>negative five degrees outside. So he gets out there like

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<v Speaker 1>four in the morning and he goes to start Fernando and.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no, no, no, it's the crank.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like it's like the what do you call it,

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<v Speaker 1>like the tethers or whatever. It's the it's the it's

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<v Speaker 1>the where your keys go in. So it's not it's

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<v Speaker 1>not the actual starter. It's that it actually won't catch.

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<v Speaker 1>So and sometimes if you push up and push in

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<v Speaker 1>it'll it'll start. But at the first couple of clicks,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the battery comes on, but it won't. It

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<v Speaker 1>won't it won't crank. So and it's been this way

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<v Speaker 1>for like three years. We've never fixed it. So so

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<v Speaker 1>Steven's like you just have to push and push and

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<v Speaker 1>then he starts it. So he goes out there at

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<v Speaker 1>four in the morning. It doesn't start well. His car's

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<v Speaker 1>parked behind my car, and so I said, well, just

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<v Speaker 1>because fans behind behind that, and I said, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's four. So I literally get up and in

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<v Speaker 2>my robe.

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<v Speaker 1>So I literally am in my you know, underwear, put

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<v Speaker 1>my robe on, and I put boots on. So I

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<v Speaker 1>am freezing beyond belief and I am pushing the car

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<v Speaker 1>but he's but he's late now. So I'm like, come

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<v Speaker 1>help me, and he's like, I'm late. I gotta get

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<v Speaker 1>this thing. So it runs back in the house. He's

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get ready and then I'm pushing this car

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<v Speaker 1>out to the middle of the road in just a

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<v Speaker 1>robe and it is just I'm the coldest I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>been in my life. So then it sits there for

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<v Speaker 1>like three days.

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<v Speaker 2>I got there.

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<v Speaker 1>Every day I try to crank, it doesn't crank, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, fine, I get this thing, toad. I got

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<v Speaker 1>Triple A. So I called Triple A and they say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be there. I got to pay extra money because

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<v Speaker 1>it's beyond the miles my mechanic, so they finally sh

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<v Speaker 1>up after waiting.

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<v Speaker 2>Like two hours.

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<v Speaker 1>So I figured I'll go out there and I'll brush

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<v Speaker 1>it off for the mechanic. So I go out there

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to brush off the snow, and so

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<v Speaker 1>on the ignition. Just the winter wipers will help me, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I turn it on and it cranks yep. And

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<v Speaker 1>so then I take it to the mechanic and he says,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you mean it's starting fine?

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 1>For the last three years, when I put the ignition

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<v Speaker 1>in there and I turn it, without fail, it does

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<v Speaker 1>not crank like like, it doesn't do anything. And he said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you right now that I'm putting the key

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<v Speaker 1>in and I'm turning it every so gently, and every

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<v Speaker 1>single time it starts right up.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 3>So did he replace it? Anyways? He still has it,

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<v Speaker 3>still has it, So he's just just telling just tell.

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<v Speaker 2>Him keep it until you find it, like right like, But.

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<v Speaker 4>But does it happen for the doctor to where you

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<v Speaker 4>take your kids to the doctor they're so sick, But

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<v Speaker 4>by the time you get to the doctor, it's the

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<v Speaker 4>adrenaline rush.

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<v Speaker 3>They feel great. Doctor asks how you feeling? I feel fine?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>They just talkative and all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>When that happens, is that funny?

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm mad on behalf of every time the car

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't perform for the mechanic for the world.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right, and the car knows what it's doing. That's

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<v Speaker 4>the cars of America.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right. When when when you are are not functioning.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, you need to show that off for the hashtag

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<v Speaker 4>night writer, night writer doo doo?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah is real?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

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<v Speaker 4>Talking about failing to learn from uh.

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<v Speaker 3>The anger of the owner?

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<v Speaker 2>That was rough. That was by far. You're worship Israel.

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<v Speaker 3>Israel is failing to learn their lessons from God.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's the owner of h Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, man. Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So so here's that's my favorite phrase in the Book

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<v Speaker 4>of Amos.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say it the Lord I crank and nothing happens.

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<v Speaker 4>of Amos, all the Book of Amous, the whole Book

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<v Speaker 4>of Amos Amos chapter four. He says, listen to me,

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<v Speaker 4>you fat cows living in Samaria whoa, wow, isn't it great?

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<v Speaker 2>That is amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>God's kind of ticked off.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and now he's like, you bunch of fat cows.

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<v Speaker 1>I know we normally don't interrupt the reading, but it

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<v Speaker 1>and well see Psalm Chapter twenty two, verse twelve. Excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>their husbands to oppress I can't read the uh to

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<v Speaker 2>So they were literally referred to fat house Psalm twenty two,

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you gotta look it up.

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<v Speaker 4>Look up Psalm twenty two twelve. So I'll read this

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<v Speaker 4>Listen to me, you fat cows living in some area,

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<v Speaker 4>another drink. The Sovereign Lord has sworn by this, This

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<v Speaker 4>by his holiness. The time will come when you will

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<v Speaker 3>Go ahead and offer.

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<v Speaker 4>Sacrifices to the idols at Bethel, keep on disobeying at Gilgal.

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<v Speaker 4>Then give your extra voluntary offering so you can brag

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<v Speaker 4>hunger to every city and famine to every town, but

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<v Speaker 4>still you would not return to me, says the Lord.

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<v Speaker 4>I kept the rain from fall when your crops needed

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<v Speaker 4>it the most, and I sent rain on one town,

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<v Speaker 4>but withheld it from another. Rain fell on one field,

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<v Speaker 4>while another field withered away. People staggered from town to

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<v Speaker 4>still you would not return to me, says the Lord.

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<v Speaker 4>I struck your farms and vineyards with blight and mildew

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<v Speaker 4>still would not return to me, says the Lord. I

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<v Speaker 4>sent plgus on you, like the plagues I sent on

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<v Speaker 4>and led all your horses away. The stench of death

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<v Speaker 4>filled the air, but still you would not return to me,

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<v Speaker 4>says the Lord. I destroyed some of your cities, as

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<v Speaker 4>I destroyed Sadomighemora. Those of you who survived were like

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<v Speaker 4>the charred sticks pulled from a fire. But still you

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<v Speaker 4>would not return to me, says the Lord. Therefore, I

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<v Speaker 4>will bring upon you all the dads. Is that all

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<v Speaker 4>the disasters I have announced. Prepare to meet your God

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<v Speaker 4>in judgment, you people of Israel. For the Lord is

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<v Speaker 4>the one who shaped the mountains, stirs up the winds,

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<v Speaker 4>and reveals his thoughts to mankind. He turns the light

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<v Speaker 4>of dawn into darkness and treads on the heights of

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<v Speaker 4>the earth. The Lord, god of Heaven's armies, is his knee.

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<v Speaker 3>Woh yeah. Once again, he's not messing around.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, you know what's interesting is I thought we

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<v Speaker 1>were doing the highlights of the Old Testament.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought we were too, but we're getting amos straight up.

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<v Speaker 2>Straight up Amos.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And to be honest, it's a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>of the same now now today is obviously a little different.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So it's you know, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Chapter two was God's announcing judgment on all of the

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<v Speaker 1>different you know, chapters one and two he's announcing the

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<v Speaker 1>judgment on different places, and then he includes Israel, and

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<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden, he goes on mostly about Israel.

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<v Speaker 1>He expresses his you know, disappointment, his anger, his patience,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And then also, you know, doesn't it say

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<v Speaker 1>that God's a jealous god?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>That God admits that he's jealous. Good.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Not in a bad kind of way, no, but

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<v Speaker 4>in a committed kind of way, right, right, the way

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<v Speaker 4>that a husband would not want his wife cheating on

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<v Speaker 4>him with another person, or a wife wouldn't want her

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<v Speaker 4>husband cheating on her with another person.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it's that kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the appropriate kind of jealousy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then and then so this chapter, sorry about.

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<v Speaker 3>The Yeah, that's okay, you're yawning at yourself. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>make me feel bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh, that's right, because you're not talking.

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<v Speaker 3>Usually when I'm talking. This time, you're boring yourself today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, I'm yawning in the middle of my sentence.

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<v Speaker 1>But but now it's now it's just God, uh, just

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<v Speaker 1>going on about Israel's, Israel's failure to learn. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've had this speech before with my kids.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, have you ever had a speech where

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it's like, I just I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>else to do. I don't know what else to try.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I've I've taught, I've I've done everything I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I did everything that I've known how to do, and

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<v Speaker 1>and yet you just simply won't you know, respond, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>or obey or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's going to get hard, right right, right, so's

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<v Speaker 4>the that's the note for Ams four six through thirteen.

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<v Speaker 4>It says, no matter how God warned the people through famine, drought, blight, locusts, plagues, war,

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<v Speaker 4>they still ignored him. Because the Israelites didn't get the message,

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<v Speaker 4>they would have to meet God face to face in judgment.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the scary one, right, Yeah, No, longer could they

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<v Speaker 4>ignore God, they would have to face the one that

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<v Speaker 4>obey when he commanded them to care for the poor.

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<v Speaker 4>One day, each of us will meet God face to

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<v Speaker 4>face to give account for what we've done or refuse

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<v Speaker 4>to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you prepared to meet him?

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<v Speaker 4>You know that I think of that that we were

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<v Speaker 4>just talking recently about this, I still think this'd be

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<v Speaker 4>a good idea. I'm really intrigued with the idea of

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<v Speaker 4>taking some of the great messages that were preached during

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<v Speaker 4>the Great Awakenings in the first grade Awakening, second Grade Awakening,

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<v Speaker 4>George Whitfield, Jonathan Edwards, John Wesley, some of these great

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<v Speaker 4>messages about about how God deals with his people, how

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<v Speaker 4>Hell is real, Heaven is real, judgment is real, opportunity

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<v Speaker 4>to serve God, blessings are real, all these things, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>because they're they're in the Old English, and so a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of times when you read those they don't make

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, if we just kind of updated them

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<v Speaker 4>with the modern language, but go back and reintroduce, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>these newer.

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<v Speaker 3>Generations to that language.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I could read those back when I was a kid.

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<v Speaker 4>Can read because I grew up reading the King James Bible,

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<v Speaker 4>so did you, right, grew up reading the King James.

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<v Speaker 4>So so you know this Shakespearean level English. So to

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<v Speaker 4>have that sophisticated seventeen hundred's English in preaching, wasn't that

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<v Speaker 4>weird to us?

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<v Speaker 3>We could?

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<v Speaker 4>We could, But now I think this generation has no

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<v Speaker 4>concept of that old English hardly.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'd love to go back and grab some of

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<v Speaker 3>those old messages.

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<v Speaker 4>But there's there's a great famous message Jonathan dwi was

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<v Speaker 4>preached sinners in the hands of an angry God.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I remember reading in my freshman year of high school.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I can remember a famous preacher judgment Days coming

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<v Speaker 4>right as another one some of these great messages that

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<v Speaker 4>were just rocked America at the time, going.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's not just God hates you and He's going

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<v Speaker 3>to judge you. That wasn't it.

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<v Speaker 4>It was God is is. He mentions here multiple times,

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<v Speaker 4>he's a roaring lion. I'm roaring from Jerusalem trying to

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<v Speaker 4>get your attention right, And and so God is, God

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<v Speaker 4>is merciful. He's this is what Jonah was mad at

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<v Speaker 4>him about. You're so compassionate, You're so merciful. Right, you're

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<v Speaker 4>so full of unending love for people. Right, he's mad

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<v Speaker 4>about that. But the other side is God is a

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<v Speaker 4>roaring lion. God is there is a limit to him

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<v Speaker 4>saying I'm gonna I'm gonna stop you from going any

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<v Speaker 4>further with the evil that you're choosing to do or

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<v Speaker 4>the bad choice you're gonna do, and that that judgment

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<v Speaker 4>also comes.

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<v Speaker 3>So God is love and God is just.

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<v Speaker 4>He's both, and so a lot of times we get

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<v Speaker 4>forget his justice, and then we're surprised. We're surprised when

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<v Speaker 4>things fall apart in life, and then we want to

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<v Speaker 4>blame everybody else instead of finally coming to the conclusion

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<v Speaker 4>these things are happening because I'm choosing to not obey God.

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<v Speaker 4>God says, how many famlinies do I have to send?

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<v Speaker 4>How much blake do I have? How often do I

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<v Speaker 4>have to send locusts?

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<v Speaker 3>War Guys, what do you think I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing everything I can to get your attention, and

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<v Speaker 4>you refuse to believe that this is my way of

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<v Speaker 4>getting your attention. So all right, we're going to go

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<v Speaker 4>face to face on this one and I think that

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<v Speaker 4>you know you and I we don't have to hammer

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<v Speaker 4>judgment all the time with people. But I have had

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<v Speaker 4>conversations with people going why is this happening in my life?

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<v Speaker 4>And I'll usually say, I think you know what you

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<v Speaker 4>tell me? Why do you think this is happening in

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<v Speaker 4>your life? And people that are experiencing God's judgment in

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<v Speaker 4>their life almost always will say why it's because I

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<v Speaker 4>haven't been walking with the Lord right at this and

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<v Speaker 4>that I knew God wanted me to do the right thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I chose not to, so it's costing my marriage. I

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<v Speaker 4>knew God wanted me to do the right thing, I

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<v Speaker 4>just didn't want to. That's why now I'm being investigated

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<v Speaker 4>by the FEDS.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>They knew what the right thing was. And then so

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<v Speaker 4>if you're in a judgment kind of a place in

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<v Speaker 4>and consequences in your life, I think you usually know

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<v Speaker 4>pretty clearly. The Holy Spirit speaks to you and lets

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<v Speaker 4>you know this is a judgment thing. If you're going

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know why, well, that's probably not judgment. It's

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<v Speaker 4>just circumstances. It's how the world works. It's one of

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<v Speaker 4>those things where then that's where you pray, like David prays, God,

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<v Speaker 4>you are my refuge, You're my strength, You're the one

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<v Speaker 4>and God. Then God allowed bad things in David's life

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<v Speaker 4>early on to make David a strong, mighty warrior, a

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<v Speaker 4>great king. So all those things, you look at it

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<v Speaker 4>life and you go, God must hate David and know

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<v Speaker 4>God was making David lift some heavy weight so it'd

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<v Speaker 4>be strong as a king. So sometimes God allows difficult

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<v Speaker 4>things in our lives to make us better. And in

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<v Speaker 4>those moments, usually people go, I don't know why God's

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<v Speaker 4>doing it, but I'm just trusting you. But there's other

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<v Speaker 4>times when God allows really difficult things, the famines in

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<v Speaker 4>your life, the locusts eating up everything that matters in

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<v Speaker 4>your life. And if you go, I know exactly why,

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<v Speaker 4>then the single best thing to do is repent. Do

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<v Speaker 4>what Nineveh did, Go back and go God, I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>the wrong direction, right. So I don't think that the

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<v Speaker 4>Holy Spirit leaves it vague and leaves you confused. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know why this is happening in my life. If

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<v Speaker 4>there's a judgment moment, it's because God's going to be

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<v Speaker 4>clear on that with you, you'll know if it's not

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<v Speaker 4>that God's just making you stronger and better, it's the

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<v Speaker 4>circumstances in life that are going to make you stronger.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a good word. And I almost feel as

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<v Speaker 1>you were saying that. All I'm doing is thinking back

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<v Speaker 1>in like my childhood and my early days of ministry,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was thinking about all the hardships and how

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<v Speaker 1>things are hard, and honestly, had I not gone through

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<v Speaker 1>like for instance, I had a group of ministry friends,

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<v Speaker 1>leaders and pastors. We're going down the room, we're giving

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<v Speaker 1>each other nicknames, and they said, oh, you're called this,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're called this, And then I think I told

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<v Speaker 1>you this before, but they said, we're going to give

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<v Speaker 1>you things wolverine and I said, well, why is the

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<v Speaker 1>white wolverine? They said, because you're a fighter. You've you've

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<v Speaker 1>fought for everything your whole life. You're just a scrapper.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought, and I thought, how would they even

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<v Speaker 1>know that? You know, and looking back and sort of

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<v Speaker 1>seeing and piecing everything together. But honestly, it's probably one

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons why I'm still standing today. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>is because you know, like you said, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he makes you strong to be a great warrior.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the other side of it, I can remember, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>And I've told this a little bit, the story, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>coming out of high school going into college, I was

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<v Speaker 4>kind of the golden boy in our little world, and

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of the other famous pastors were saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>as soon as you finished, you got a job with me,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, all that kind of stuff. And I think that,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I don't know if you've heard I have

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<v Speaker 4>a supreme level of self confidence. You have, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I have heard this, and so you know that can

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<v Speaker 4>lead to an inordinate amount of pride, and everything that

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<v Speaker 4>I did turn to gold. And so I can't remember

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<v Speaker 4>I had an early season, you know, Paul Warrens, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>don't lay hands suddenly on any man. Be careful with

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<v Speaker 4>young leaders, right, Pride comes with four there's other things,

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<v Speaker 4>and so I think, you know, I make jokes about

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<v Speaker 4>it now, getting kicked out a couple Bible colleges. But

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<v Speaker 4>the consequence that was I crammed four years into six

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<v Speaker 4>years of college, but spread it over eight right, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and where everybody else to get done in four years,

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<v Speaker 4>it took me eight years. And by that point I

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<v Speaker 4>was married.

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<v Speaker 3>I had two kids.

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<v Speaker 4>It was really really physically demanding and hard, and I

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<v Speaker 4>was humbled. At that point, I wasn't the star anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>I went from being the star to not being the

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<v Speaker 4>star anymore. And then ever since, I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 4>about a decade behind where I should be for the

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<v Speaker 4>talent level. That if I'm just being honest, the talent level,

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like God gave me the achievements. I'm hitting

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<v Speaker 4>them in my fifties when I other stars would have

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<v Speaker 4>hit them in their forties, right, right, And I know that,

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<v Speaker 4>I know I'm about a decade behind almost always. And

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<v Speaker 4>that's not God hating me. That's God allowing me to

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<v Speaker 4>go through a little bit of his judgment, to get

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<v Speaker 4>rid of that pride, to get rid of that self,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, sufficiency a little bit. And so I really

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<v Speaker 4>do see that that little window of time in my

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<v Speaker 4>life was God was I was refusing to learn how

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<v Speaker 4>many Bible colleges do most pastors have to get kicked

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<v Speaker 4>out of before they learned their lesson. Right, I got

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<v Speaker 4>banished from the crowd I ran with afterwards, right, they

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<v Speaker 4>declared to heritake all these things, and I think it

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<v Speaker 4>was that was a judgment element in my life and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm willing to go and I knew it.

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<v Speaker 3>It took me a while.

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<v Speaker 4>It took me a while to get to the point

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<v Speaker 4>where I would finally confess that and believe it or not.

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<v Speaker 4>That was kind of the beginning of the end of

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<v Speaker 4>it was when I finally acknowledged God, your hand is

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<v Speaker 4>really heavy on me. In the booky Hebrew says God

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<v Speaker 4>rebukes his children. If God doesn't, he literally says, if

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<v Speaker 4>God doesn't on occasion.

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<v Speaker 3>Spank you.

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<v Speaker 4>As are, then he says, you're an illegitimate son. You're

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<v Speaker 4>not even really one of mine if you don't occasionally

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<v Speaker 4>get it corrected. But the ending of the correction for

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<v Speaker 4>me was when I finally admitted God, I know you're

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<v Speaker 4>correcting me, and Okay, you're in charge. And so I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like I've run about a decade behind my timing

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<v Speaker 4>on this. So God didn't stop blessing me. I just

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<v Speaker 4>had this wasted time in my life that I was

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<v Speaker 4>spinning my wheels.

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<v Speaker 3>More and it was pretty heavy hand.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting. Interesting, that's you're a point of view. You really

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<v Speaker 2>believe that, huh, But you felt like that that is true,

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<v Speaker 2>that is right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's what I'm saying, the Holy Spirit will tell you.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this so when you read the Book of Hebrews.

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<v Speaker 4>Hebrews was written in the New Testament to Christians, and

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<v Speaker 4>he says you are an illegitimate son if God doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>punish you on occasion.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Matter of fact, King James says you're a bastard if

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<v Speaker 4>God doesn't beat you on occasion.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what it says, right, So it happens.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's only because we know God is merciful and

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<v Speaker 4>God is gentle and he's God is loving. But God

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<v Speaker 4>also will say, listen, I've got more for you, and

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<v Speaker 4>he'll smack you upside the head and say I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 4>get your attention and you can learn it the easy

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<v Speaker 4>way or the hard way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we can't close out our time together without me

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<v Speaker 1>reading the Psalm twenty two to twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>That I looked.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember we started this whole podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>Cows listen, listen to me, you fat cows living in Samaria.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it turns out this is a horrible thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't even figure out why they told us.

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<v Speaker 2>To look this up. But here's what it says.

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<v Speaker 1>Herds of bulls come at me, the raging bulls stampede horns,

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<v Speaker 1>lowered nostrils flaring like a herd of buffalo on the move.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a bucket kicked over and spilled. Every joint in

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<v Speaker 1>my body has been pulled apart. My heart is a

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<v Speaker 1>blob of melted wax in my gut.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. I actually quoted a paraphrase version.

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<v Speaker 1>The most Yeah, that'ssage, because I just thought, like, this

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<v Speaker 1>other thing doesn't even make any sense. So if I

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<v Speaker 1>go to NIV, just the first that they quoted, it

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<v Speaker 1>says many bulls surround me, strong bulls of bashan encircle me.

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<v Speaker 2>So there it is.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's using the cow element because it's talking about

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<v Speaker 4>the wealthy and the powerful are the ones bulldozing him? Yes, right,

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<v Speaker 4>that's that's the reference there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, anyway, I thought it was gonna be different. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking forward to something more fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Well here he's using the same analogy but talking about

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<v Speaker 4>the women who are encouraging their husbands to abuse other

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<v Speaker 4>people so they can have more stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. Well, hey, that is our time together, so hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>we will see you next time on Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>On the Bible, guys,