Unknown: I can't imagine that my dad wouldn't have wanted to take
care of us kids, and you know, in any way that he could. But
no, I mean, as far as I know, none of us kids make. We're not.
We don't. We don't make any money from his songs, from his
royalties. His, you know, there's no money. I mean, you
know, I've I've worked my whole life. You know, I mean, I worked
three jobs while putting myself through college, and you know, I
mean, I've worked every day. I was babysitting before I could
even legally get a job. You know, I mean, I. The narrative
is that you know we're silver spoon kids, and that we're now
reaping the benefits from Dad's death, and that we're getting
all of this stuff. We own no merchandise. All of his jackets,
any anything that's David Alenco related belongs to the estate.
We're not part of the estate. We've actually been boldly
claimed to. If you read the will, we have been excluded from
everything.
Welcome to a podcast about music and entertainment before it all
goes down the disposal. This is circling the drain.
Hey, welcome back to circling the drain. John E. Bozeman here.
Johnny B. Most people know me by. You know that
silver-throated
yes
devil over there. That would
be Johnny Harper. Yes, yes. We are back. We are back, and we
are so excited, man. I almost want to forget Jim McCarthy
because I'm so excited about the guest. But no, we we have to, of
course, mention our. I'm very forgettable. Yes, no, you're far
from it. But no, the man who runs the show that would be one
James Patrick McCarthy. Yes, he's
almost like a he's almost like a babysitter with us. He keeps us
in line.
Yes, yes. We
are excited because we have two talented young ladies in our
midst, and they not only are talented, but they come from you
know a legend, David Allen Coe.
Yeah,
and I'm talking about his daughters. You have Tanya
Montana, and you are like folklore because you have a
song, a classic song that was written about the music video.
Yeah, this is true. The only music
video that Dad ever did. Yeah,
except for that. Take this job and recent one he did that,
yeah, yeah, we won't talk about that one. Not important. Shelly,
yeah, co is here, and she she is a great artist herself. Both of
them have, and I'm trying to tell them both to keep playing
and singing.
Never say never. That's my answer.
Well, yeah, you should because I'm a huge fan of both of you.
Thank you, thank you.
And in fact, I'd have to add Tyler in there too, because in
fact, it was funny. I saw David play in this really small place.
Well, it wasn't small actually; it was huge. It was in this
really strange town called Covington, Georgia. It was
called the Ozone Bar and Grill, and I saw David with Blackberry
Smoke, and your brother was on there playing guitar, and I was
just blown away by him. And I wanted to tell him after the
show how much I loved his playing, but I could tell he was
not in a good mood, so I left him alone. I was going to,
and he has an instrumental album as well that he did many many
years ago, long before his podcast,
really, I wasn't unaware of him. Yeah, I've got to get it.
Yeah,
because I really did dig watching him play. He was cool.
Plus, he looked like he belonged in Lynn Skinner because his hair
was real long. Oh yeah, he looked like Alan Collins. Yeah,
good looking kid.
Yeah,
so all
my siblings are good looking.
Yeah, the all of you, and you are too. Yes, you
are. Thank you.
In fact, the camera loves you. There, there. I watched what was
it? Heartworn highways, part two, and you are in a cameo. Oh,
were you aware of that?
I'm like, wait, was I?
You were. You were really. Yeah, they shooted it. I want to say
it's some. It may be a bar type restaurant place, probably in
East Nashville somewhere.
Gosh, and they do. I don't know if I've ever seen. I didn't know
that. Haven't
seen. I didn't know there was a part two. Yeah,
there's a part two. I'm gonna
have to look that up.
Yeah,
I was in a little film called East Nashville Tonight, and I
feel like that was being filmed around the same time as the
Heartworn Highways Two, and I'm like maybe I'm just kind of
mixing those up or something, or maybe
they took that that moment and put it in two different places.
I'll have
to look that up later.
Yeah, you'll need to because it's a quick cameo. But man, the
camera loves you because she was getting. I think she you were
getting served something and you were smiling and laughing. So it
was really cool. Yeah, I mean that, and I thought we needed
more Tanya and and Tyler because you had Justin Towns Earl in
there, God rest his soul, and and a lot of Bobby Bear Juniors
in it. Yeah, yeah.
I didn't know it was around, so I need to check up. You know,
looking.
Oh yeah, it's a good good movie. But what got what got you guys
into music? Was it your father or? Or was it just being around?
So my mom left when I was little, and I was raised outside
of Austin in a little town called Dripping Springs, Texas.
And coincidentally, I was raised with Willie Nelson's grandkids.
Well, that's where you had the big
Dripping Springs reunion.
Yeah. So when we had our our reunion when we graduated, it
was out at the property. But I digress. My English teacher was
one year telling us that we needed to write a journal, and I
just didn't really have anything to say. So it started out with
poems, and then I started kind of singing acapella the poems
into songs, and so I started writing probably when I was like
nine. I didn't actually start recording until I was much
older, but I've always sung. That's pretty much when I was
growing up. That's how we we didn't really watch TV. We
listened to music and we sang and you know that kind of thing.
My mom taught me harmonies, so I mean singing from a very young
age. I'm on an album of Dad's, the family album. Yes, I'm on
the front cover with my mom, and then when you open it up,
there's other pictures of me and Carla, and just like family
moments are on it, and then on the backside, more pictures of
family moments, but there is a song on there called "Heavenly
Father, Holy Mother.
Yes,
and all of the co-women that were still alive went into the
recording studio to record that. So, if you're listening to it,
it's only like so. If you're listening to it, you have a
right channel and a left channel. You will hear a young
child singing. You'll hear a little kid's voice singing, and
that's me. Yes. And then you hear a much older voice singing,
and I want to say that was Grandma. So you know,
technically, I've been singing since I was three, but yeah, you
know, yeah. Well,
I remember that cover too because they messed up. I think
the baby pictures.
They did that on. I don't know if they do things like that on
purpose, but yes. So on the back, not only are the birthdays
wrong, but like my name is on Carla's picture and vice versa.
And I don't know if they do that kind of stuff on purpose because
I'm sure Dad had to approve things before they went to
print. But for that particular album, we did we did notice
that. Yes.
When did you start?
Yeah, I wish I had a more contained answer for that. I I
think I've been learning just through going through some of
the stuff. I mean, I remember. I think I was probably very
influenced by Dad just from I did grow up on the road, spend a
lot of time on the road, and so from the time I was born through
all of my formative childhood years, you know, I watched dad
perform on stage. He'd bring you on stage four or five. I mean,
dad toured constantly. He he played many, probably played
four or five nights a week, you know, most of my life, most of
my childhood. So I mean, yeah, I was, and I was, you know,
enamored with him, and and I would watch him, and so, and um,
he in I, you know, in all the home videos, I'm yeah, I'm
singing. I would make up my own little songs, you know, Dad was
really encouraging. Dad and I had a very kind of like writing
type of relationship. When he got a fax machine on the bus, we
would fax each other every day, and I would always, you know,
you know, I had faxes. They're like, "I wrote three new songs
today. Here's the titles. I mean, I'm just a little kid.
They're just, you know, but, and so yeah, I think I always was
writing. I was always singing. I was just always interested in
that, but had never really thought of pursuing it. And and
really, after my parents' divorce and the way that life
took me, I had really gotten away from that creative side of
myself. Really didn't think I was a creative a creative kid in
the family at all. I just worked and helped my mom and helped
with my younger siblings and made good grades and did all the
things you know that I was thought you were supposed to do.
And I didn't really focus on my creativity or writing or
anything like that. But yeah, I in my early 20s and I didn't
know how to play any instruments. I hadn't been
raised to learn how to play an instrument or anything. And but
I was dating a guy who was a musician, and he taught me how
to play guitar. And I just instantly started writing songs.
And I kind of remember, funny enough, he was like, he's like,
well, you can't start writing songs yet. And I said, well, I
just did. I just tell me what to do. Little coke coming up there,
and so yeah, funny. So that kind of started, and and really, it
was just therapeutic for me. I really hadn't planned on doing
anything.
Yeah,
I you know wasn't anything I thought about doing, and. Then I
had actually been in accounting, and I was in working as an
accountant. And then I was not liking it. I was very unhappy,
and I was still very young. And I, my best friend, who I had
made in college, we actually ended up opening a little shop
together. And through having the shop and promoting the shop, we
had had another friend move here who wasn't technically a
business partner, but it was just like a little group of
girls. And she was a musician, and she was wanting to make it
in music and wanting to play shows. And so, what's her name?
Her name's Brienne, and we're still best friends to this day.
And she's got a baby on the way. I'm so excited. But my friend
Kim is my friend who I met in college, who I started my shop
Goodbye Girls with, and Kim just-I had only been playing
guitar for about six months and had just started, you know,
writing songs. But she booked us a GG Happy Hour. GG is short for
Goodbye Girls. Yeah, where we just booked all female singer
songwriters and bands, and I was thrown into playing once a week
at these little writers' rounds at our GG happy hour, where we
sold clothes and performed. That's brilliant. I really was
brilliant. I was very naive and not really thinking, "Oh, I have
a famous dad, and I'm putting myself out there. I just was
doing it. I was having fun with my friends. Yes, I hope that
none of those videos ever get released, and that anyone ever
judges. You don't want on them to see you having
fun with your friends. Well,
I'm just worried they won't take it that way. But that is, I
understand that.
Yeah, and so, and then things really just as far as the
recording and stuff. I mean, things just happened
organically. Things just really, the expression fell into your
lap is such a kind of annoying expression. I think sometimes,
but I truly feel like that's what happened to me. And you
don't have
to force it. If it just naturally occurred, everything
falls into place. That is the universe saying at this moment
you are supposed to express yourself musically, and the rest
of the world is supposed to hear what you have to say. I'm
getting chills talking. No, that's that's it. That's why it
happened so easy.
And me having the shop is part of what led to that, and really
what got me started on that journey, especially the
recording, because I really was not wanting to put myself out
there. I didn't think I was ready, and I look back, I
probably wasn't ready. I'm still not ready to deal with all
that's out there, but I have a shop where it's in a little
collective of shops where there's seven other shops, and
there was another shop owner. Her name was Molita, and she was
married to a musician named Todd Snyder. Oh yeah, and he would
just come up and hang at the shops during the day, and he
would always bring his guitar. And
that's so cool. I just one day, you know,
I mean, he would just we would just be up there, and so when
there were no customers or whatever, we would just all hang
outside and just pass the guitar around and sing. And after a
couple months of doing that, Melita one day she said, "Hey,
Todd really wants to record you, and I was like, "What? Like, you
know? And she's like, "He thinks you're really good. He really
likes your songs, and he wants to record you, and he wants to
get you in a studio, and he's going to pay for everything and
all that stuff. See, I
told you. So,
so that's how that that's how that ended up happening.
Yeah, that's a great story too. And I remember when you put out
Silver Bullet because I was on a political talk show at the time,
and they people loved the bumpers I chose. And one of the
bumpers I chose, I I used Silver Bullet when it came out, and I
got to tell you, it was the that one and another one by a guy
named I don't know if you're familiar with Todd Zillow, Todd
Austin. He's this great guitar player. Okay, I'm
not familiar. I mean, I'm I'm the worst at being familiar, but
I know by the song or something. That's kind
of the same. You can play a song, and I'm like, oh, I've
heard this song a million times, and then you're like, who sings
it? I'm like,
well, it's really funky. He's like Jones world. He's like
Prince meets Eddie Van Halen
type.
But both you guys, I got requests. Like they go, can you
play that bumper again? And they would ask who it was, and I. So
I turned a lot of people on to you. So so you need to keep it
up.
Oh, Silver Bullet was the first full song from beginning to
finish that I really did, you know, on my own, and
it was a great video. Very proud of that
song.
Even while my wife thought I was just looking at it because she
goes, "She's taking off her clothes in it. That's why you
like it. No, I like the song. I like the video. Now it's done.
It was
just all my home video. They were just really DIY home
videos, you know, that my husband took on our iPhone, and
yeah, we just you know we're just DIYers, just creative, just
having fun, and you know.
Well, see, I think most, I think more people need to do that,
especially these days in music, because radio is not what it
used to be. And in a way, I'm kind of happy because because I
argued with someone.
It was completely different last week. Yeah. Well, the thing is,
I argued with a writer in town when I because I put your video
up on my Facebook and said, "Yeah, you know, man, I'm really
knocked out by you know what she's doing. And this writer
goes, well, that's not how Billy Sherrill taught us how to blah
blah. And I said, you got to quit looking at it like that.
Look at Frank Zappa. That guy wasn't radio ready, but he still
put out great music. Yeah,
Billy Sherrill would have been very supportive of anything that
David Allen Coe's children would have produced. Oh,
I would think so. End of
story. Yeah, because it came from the children of Dave Allen
Coe, and he firmly believed in everything that Dad did.
Yeah,
what direction Dad wanted to do, the type of music. Like you
know, sometimes it sounds like he's on an island, you know,
with a with a drink with an umbrella in his hand. Sometimes
it sounds like you know he's rock and roll. I mean, his style
wasn't just one style. No, it varies. And well, even the
covers
were different.
And Billy pivoted and moved with him. He didn't try to steer him
back to the road. He's like, "Oh, you want to go over here?
Yeah, sure. Let's go over here. Let's explore. He would have
embraced the creativity, and he would have encouraged to be
different. You don't. They already have a David Allen Co.
They don't need another David Allen Co. formula. Like be
unique, be different.
Well, and I get it. And I mean, they're not wrong for saying if
it wasn't radio, it wasn't radio friendly. And that, and I didn't
know any better. That's I didn't know about the songwriting
structures. I didn't know the rules. I just it just really
just came out of me. But see,
I like that. I see. I like I I told you earlier when I first
heard Silver Bullet, I thought the way the song sounds and
everything about it reminds me of like John Lennon's Plastic
Ono band. I love that because I love that album. I love that
you're saying that too, because my husband's like the biggest
Beatles fan. So when he hears this back and hears that
comparison, I'm I'm gonna get some points at home. Well, in
fact,
I would say that that that's what I like about your music is
that it's a lot like when John Lennon was really introspective
because you your other one, which I thought would hide your
emotions, yeah. You had a song on there, and you know I don't
want to, I don't want to upset you know my you know the
Christian part of my family, but but it was a song called All
Effed Up, and I could really identify with it. I mean,
that one seemed to really end up connecting with that song out of
all the songs in the albums. You'd end up connecting with the
most people. I was kind of surprised by that. I just didn't
put it on there because yeah, I was like, my grandma's never
going to forgive me.
But it's brave, and and like I said, if you come from a because
my family was very dysfunctional, and if you come
from a dysfunctional type family. I think you can really,
yeah,
you know, you can really identify with it. And I really
identified with one you had called what was it? All, gosh,
now I'm blanking out on it. I need my name. Yes, I love that
song.
Thank you very
much.
I wrote that song a long time ago, before before relationships
became what they are.
Yeah,
and I did it out of love for my dad.
Yeah,
and I'm just like, this is the outside looking in, and I just I
care about you. I love you, and you need to know this.
Yeah,
but it ended up being that a lot of people resonated with it, not
just famous people. Oh yeah, but you know, a lot of people
resonated with it. And then the music video, humorously enough,
is done at a furniture store after it's closed for the day. I
had some friends that did a consignment shop in Austin, and
so when she was closed for the day, she let me come in and and
have the pick of the whole store. And so that beautiful
purple throne that I was sitting on, I really wanted to take
home, but that's that's the music videos there, and it was
just the simplest thing to do. I brought 15 changes of clothes,
and we did. We took 15 different takes of that, and then they
ended up with the final product. And then the person who did
that, Stevie Tombstone, who is an artist himself and a damn
good singer songwriter, he was the one who spliced and diced,
and he put raw footage from his touring days in with the video,
and he was the one who produced the video and released the
video, and I'm just so I'm so happy that he had that skill set
because I can sing. I don't know how to record. I don't know how
to make a video. I mean, I'm at the mercy of other people's
talents when it comes to that. So I was just so grateful that
Stevie. I mean, Stevie and I have been friends for a long.
Time and I will go and sing with him on stage live, or I'll
record stuff with him. And you know, if if he's doing a show,
we may split the the night, and he's playing guitar and singing
with me on my songs, or we're trading back and forth, and it's
just a very loose but organic friendship. And so when he
offered to do that for me, I was like, yeah, I thank you, thank
you for doing that for me because that's the only music
video I have. I don't have any other. I have music, lots of
music. Yes, you do. But that's the only music video that I
have. So yeah,
Tanya, you say that when you got a little bit older in your your
parents' divorce, that you kind of stepped away, I guess, from
the whole music scene thing, and grew up "quote unquote" normal.
But with the last name Co. did did people ask you, or did they
assume that you know? Are you related to David Allen, or are
you a singer? I mean, did you grow up with with that having to
answer that question from people,
well, and so to start off, I mean, you know, I didn't
necessarily choose to step away. I think you know, once my
parents separated, it's just I would still go on the road with
my dad in the summers, which was most of the time I saw him,
anyways. Unless you know, that was pretty common just to go on
the road in the summer. So he was still in my life to some
extent. But in middle school, I mean, all through elementary
school, middle school, it never came up. You know, you're just
too young. In high school, it really didn't come up much. No,
I mean, I don't, I don't know if people just didn't really put
two and two together at the time.
I didn't. I mean, I just, I didn't talk about it a lot, and
it was, I wasn't super popular or anything, so it just wasn't
something that was I wasn't really put in a position to talk
about it much. No.
Yeah. Now you know both of you. I mean, little kids out on the
road. We've had Mickey Hayes as a guest here. You know, your
dad's bass player for many many years, off and on. I mean, how
did the band members treat the little kids running around? I
mean, I know that you know they're the boss's kids, but
still, I mean, what kind of relationship do you have with
you know with the the other the other members? I
mean, I feel like I owe those people so much for for looking
out for me, for taking care of me. They still, so many people
who worked for my dad, especially during the time when
we were little. I mean, they're still in my life to this day.
You know, they they really cared, and yeah, I mean, it was
their job as the boss's kids, whatever. But I mean, I always
just feel like my dad was so fortunate to have a lot of
really good people work for him, and that cared about him, and
they cared about the whole aspect of everything, and they
cared about us kids. Yeah, and I feel fortunate.
Yeah, well, that's that's good to know. Like it's kind of like
the whole Willie Nelson and family thing. Oh
yeah,
you know, the road with the whole bunch, man. Yeah, I mean,
sometimes
there were funny. You know, I mean, I remember once I was
about 11. I remember Dad. It was just Tyler and I on the road
with him that summer, and I was in a little bit. And he's like,
"If you're going to be out here, he's like, you're going to have
have to, you know, be okay with you know the guys that they're
going to be cussing and stuff. He was trying to prepare me like
it's a little rough out here, you know. You're in a, and I
was. I'm an 11 year old girl just surrounded by nothing but
men, you know, and just me and out there with my brother, and
so I mean, yeah. I mean, it was it was rough, and it was it was
interesting because I mean, you know, I think my my mom sent us
to these small private Christian schools that were kind of like
Christian, were like a church school combined that had like
chapel every day and stuff, and all my close girlfriends and
friends growing up came from very religious church-going
families, and so it's like I had like the very extreme Christian
Christ-like church side, and then I'd go on the road with
dad, and it was like, yeah, one end of the spectrum. Yes, yes,
but every you know, and and yeah, there's and Bob Bishop and
Bruce Layton and definitely. I love Bob
Bishop. He was the scariest looking man. He looked like
Charles Manson. He did look like. I mean, when I first met
him, I was like, "I'm sorry, what is going on? And you know,
when I was on the road with Dad, I stuck out like a sore thumb
because I don't look like a biker chick. I'm like, you know,
I'm very preppy and I'm very girly, and so we would go
somewhere, and I'm like, I want to walk around, and he's like,
not without Bobby, and I'm like, okay, so I'd walk around with
Bobby, you know, but yeah, the they they were fiercely
protective of us. They they kind of like let us be us, but if
somebody started to like get in, like if we didn't know, but
somebody was starting to move into our space and it was gonna
become something, right? Now suddenly, you know, one of the
bishop boys is coming up saying, "Hey, man, your dad wants you to
go do blah blah blah. Okay, cool, and then we would leave,
not realizing that they probably just saved us from something
crazy. Right. So they allowed us to be ourselves, but they also
protected
us. Yeah. Well, and two, did you have? Because one thing that
concerned me about is I love David's music. I loved your
dad's music, but sometimes the fans were a little well,
especially the ones that took the X-rated album seriously.
Yeah. Yeah.
Because I understood what he was trying. He it it his X-rated
albums reminded me of Red Fox's old party albums. Yeah, I mean
it's the Mel Brooks of
of music. Yeah, I mean they're space balls and blazing saddles
of music. Yeah, that's exactly.
But some of them are like they took it literally, and you know,
some of them were very racist people. Yeah, I mean,
I think I don't know if you guys ever
ran into that or not. Of course,
yeah, of course we ran into that.
Yeah,
but when Dad was alive, he would just simply explain to them that
that was that moment, and he's a family man, and he's got his
young children on the road with him, and he's got his older
children on the road with him and his wife, and he doesn't
sing those songs live. And and and you know, over there at the
merch table is are those albums? If you want to buy them, I'll
sign them. Whatever. Right. But but this show is a family show.
Right. You know. Yeah, I'm gonna cuss, whatever. But I'm not. I'm
not gonna sing those things live. There was a time when he
tried to get almost kind of get away from it if he could, and
unfortunately, you you can't once you once you've released
something into into the universe, it's there. But he was
very mindful.
I think that's the tough part too. Is like I've had you know
people wonder if we were raised with that
racist belief, hate
that that spirit, that energy, and and it was. I mean, it was
something that I really. I've first of all, I've never
listened to the X-rated albums on purpose. I know what they
entail. I have had the internet, you know. But you know, I mean,
yeah. I think I at least was a product of my dad's family man
era, and I was mortified. I mean, to be honest, like I, I
had, I had never known of my dad being racist. He had black band
members. My best friend, my best childhood friend growing up, was
a black girl. You know, her mom had died of cancer when she was
in third grade. I grew up spending the night at their
houses, going to the black church on Sundays. That was a
huge part of my musical influence as well. Like I love
black arts, I love black culture, I love black music.
Well, see, like your dad did too. He
did. He did. I mean, when
somebody writes a line like "I've got black blood in my soul
and black blood-you can't control. That's not a racist
man. It's
hard to so yeah to have all of a sudden your dad's like the
poster boy for racism. It's like what? Like I and you don't want
to have anything to do with it. And and I was as it's it's um
it's it's tragic. It's mortifying. I'm not saying it's
okay. I wish she would have never done those songs. And if
there are people that are using that to
spin their own narrative
or or to perpetuate racism or hate, that may that's very
that's the children of Dave
Allenco are not racist. No. Okay. Can we just go on record
and say that we are not racist people? We were raised. I mean,
actually, I I fully support love is love. You should be able to
love who you want, and you know, I'm teaching my children the
same. We're not racist people, you know. And yes, he has those
albums out there. I personally have never heard them. Somebody
asked me why. I said because he's my dad.
Well, yeah. You
know, and I don't see him in that way. You don't see your
father in that way. So I have no interest in seeing or listening
to those albums. Right. I just don't.
Well, see, I have. I and I sound like I'm trying to
stir the pot.
Well, no. I was going to say. I was
going to say. I told you we weren't going to talk about
this, right? We have a list. I'm sorry. No, no,
I. But I always felt like I was, you know, I guess people will
say, "Well, you sound like you're apologizing. I said, "No,
I'm not. You're not getting it. Everything this guy's done in
country music, even like you're never even called me by my name.
That's great song, but it's a parody of country music. It's
talking about you know all the subject matter in country music,
and he's having fun with
it.
I actually did a little thing in my song "Truly" that was written
by Billy D, who is also another great singer-songwriter. You
know the talking part of Dad's song. I actually put that in
Billy Dee's song, truly, when I recorded it, and then I slid it
over to him, and I didn't tell him I was doing it, and he was
just like, "Oh my gosh, now from ever from this point on, I'm
gonna have to do it this way when I perform it live. He was
just tickled pink, so like the legacy can continue with these
songs. Like Dad starts it, and then one of us can pick it up.
And carry it forward.
Yeah. Now, see, when you you you really touched me, Tanya, when
you recently you shared some of the facts that you and your dad
had between each other while he was on the road. Oh man,
I was crying,
and I and I loved it because it showed a side of him that I
never got to see.
Yeah, was the dad, the loving father? A lot of people didn't
get to see, and I feel fortunate to have those memories.
Yeah. Well, hang on to those. That's what you. And I got to
tell you guys, all of you kids have handled his death in a very
classy way because you know you had been estranged for quite a
while,
not by our choice.
No, you, you guys. It was
not our choice.
No, and that, and that's something I'd like to clear up
too, because he had put out a note saying everybody abandoned
him.
That wasn't the truth.
And I never. Well, even when I saw the note, I said I don't buy
this. Yeah, because the kids have always. I mean, I can tell
from how Tyler included how all of you guys seem to really look
at a very heartbreaking
situation. We we did and we do, you know. And I don't think
kids. It's just yeah. It's it's hard to have. It's hard to not
only have to deal with the heartbreaking reality, but then
to have so many people believe a narrative that's not true. That
you know that we, you know, turned our back on our father or
abandoned our father. We only wanted for his money. I mean,
the crazy stuff that people have said online,
and we're like,
it's just, it just
no, yeah.
I mean, one, and it's just you think, how much can a kid take?
Yeah,
exactly. And plus, you got to keep in mind too, keyboard
warriors. Yeah, they're not the bravest people in the world.
They'll they'll act real brave behind a keyboard, but but
there's
people spinning. There's people spinning the that are creating
the misunderstanding in them, you know. And and I was I was
yeah much younger when that stuff started you know
happening, and I never stopped trying to reach my dad, and you
know, even though he, you know, yeah, maybe I don't know if he
really. It's it's hard to know what happened. There's a lot of
confusion,
right? We
actually have text messages that we've all that people have kept,
where they've continue. It shows the timestamp of reaching out,
trying to get in touch with him, trying to get a response, we
never gave up hope that we would be able to reconnect with him.
You know, that's the part that also hurts a lot. Is that it was
a we don't even know if Dad got to see those messages because
somebody could have had his phone and could have been
controlling the narrative of what he was allowed to know was
coming in, but we never gave up. Like, I mean, we were talking
about that last night at dinner, and people were pulling their
phones out, and they were like, "I've got this date. What do you
got? You know, so we were trying to figure out when was the last
time we actually stopped trying. Even if
you stopped trying, I mean, never really give up hope,
right? We always thought that you know, even if you got to a
point where you thought it's useless to keep trying to keep
sending this into the black hole, you know, of the abyss of
no response and rejection, you know that feeling of. But I
think that's what when when he did actually pass, and you know,
it's like okay, you see the news, it's real, and I just
thought that's why I made a public post. I just said I I
want to be able to go to his funeral. You know I want that
closure. I deserve that.
You sure do, man. In the video, I guess your husband shot it.
Tell him thank you for sharing that with us because
he was the real MVP that weekend. That's for sure. Yeah,
you know we went. To be honest, we went the first day because it
was a public viewing. We knew that we wouldn't be turned away
at a public viewing. Right. So we went thinking we're only
going to get this two hours, and we sat in our chairs and we just
sat there and we were like, we're going to stay here for the
full two hours. We're not leaving until they kick us out.
Right. And we went
scared. We went scared. We went not knowing the whole
idea.
Yeah, and
then we sat there for the two hours. We're walking out, and
somebody comes out from a another room and says, "You guys
have been invited to come back to the next thing. So we go
home, we change our clothes, we touch up our makeup. We're like,
"Okay, we're going to go back for the next thing. And we went
back to the next thing, not knowing if we would get to go to
the next thing. So they just kind of breadcrumb fed us what
we were going to get to be allowed to do next, and we just
came away. We just, as a group, we decided every single thing
that they allow us to be at, we are going to be at, and we're
not leaving until they ask us to leave. And I'm so
proud of Shelly because I mean, you know, we didn't know if we
would get an opportunity. You know, at some funerals, there's
a moment where people come up and share a story or speak. We
didn't know if anything like that was going to happen, and
they did open the floor for that to happen. And Shelly on the
spot because we didn't know. I mean, I find
that hard to believe. Come on, now
we were all sitting at the table in the back. We. Just finished
eating, and everyone was like, "So, what are we going to do?
Are we going to go up as a collective unit and tell one
story, or are we all going to get up as individual children
and tell our narrative? And some of us were more comfortable
talking, and some of us were afraid that they might not be
able to talk because the emotions would take over. And I
just said, I'll do it. What do y'all want me to say? I'll do
it. And then I got up there and said way more than I thought I
was going to say. But luckily, we have somebody in our life
that recorded it, and I was able to listen to it back. And I'm
like, okay, I didn't make an ass out of myself. That's good. I I
covered all the things that I thought were important to say,
but the main message I wanted to get to the people who were there
that day was that Dad loved his fans, and he recognized that
that relationship was the whole reason why he was who he was.
And so I I mainly just stood up there and said, you know, on
behalf of the children, thank you, David Allenco fans, for
loving our dad and not being you know allowing him to freely
express himself in all the different ways in which he did,
and that just we just really appreciated the fact that they
loved on him and embraced him and they didn't you know he was
allowed to be himself through it all. He
needed that you know he needed he needed a lot of healing in
his life. Well, he came
up. I mean, he had a hard.
I mean, he had about as abusive and traumatic of a childhood as
someone can have. Oh, he did. Yeah,
he really did. And I got to tell you, when I met him, I met him
in 1982, and because I was on the radio in Nashville, and at
the time he wasn't getting a lot of airplay on country stations,
especially in in town. And I was playing his stuff all the time.
In fact, they let me remember
what songs at that time were out.
I remember clearly there was. In fact, I played album stuff.
Yeah, I played the hosted up. Share, share, share. What did
you do? I played Lost by on off Compass Point.
Okay, that's a great album.
Yeah, it was. I also played. I think I snuck in Sudden Death
off Spectrum Seven. Really, on Country Was that a three
a.m. thing or what?
Oh yeah, yeah. I actually, but it was really funny when I met
him. I met him at Spence Manor as he was staying in town. He
was recording, and a songwriter introduced us. And I could tell
he really at first didn't want me hanging around. You know,
he's dad
didn't.
No, he because he didn't know who I was. He didn't know
anything, and I I looked kind of rough back in those days because
I was
well. You look rough now. Yeah, I do. What's different? Yeah,
well, actually, this is
cleaner than what I used to do. Wow! Okay, but anyway, once I
was introduced to him, he brightened up. He said, "Oh, he
said, "Buzz Rabin was telling me about you. He said, "You're
playing my effing music, and I said, "Yes, I am. And so he
said, "You know, come on up, and we hung out and heard some new
songs. I think he sang "Whiskey, Whiskey, Take My Mind" before it
came out. Nice. And I was just I was in heaven, man. And and he
even treated us to a steak dinner that night. Oh, nice.
Yeah. That's awesome. And then he gave Zach Van Arsdale 500
bucks.
See, these are the stories, man. I'm doing worse than he
is. These are the stories that make my
heart happy.
But yeah, your dad wanted to help Zach out because Zach had
some songs for him, and he said, "Zach, those songs just-they're
not me. But he said, "I'll give you $500 to help you. And I
thought, "Man, what a great guy! That's
awesome.
Yeah,
that's awesome. So I
saw a side of him that many didn't.
Yeah, you know, I started radio 1978 in high school. You're not
old enough.
Yeah, I am, and playing and playing a lot of the of his.
They were singles, but you know the divers do it deeper. Well, I
got in trouble for that one. I know you did, Jack Daniels, if
you please. I mean, you know, some of the stuff that you know
weren't colossal hits for him at the time,
right?
But I just thought he had such a cool, unique perspective on on
in his songs, and just a kind of a twisted eye that I liked. Oh,
me too. Now, Shelly, I'm sure you were around, you know, to
witness the before and the after of the ride for your dad in his
career, I mean, what what was that like to see things just
kind of explode? And that you know, with Mona Lisa lost her
smile and and those other big hits. I mean, what what was it
like being out on the road and witnessing just his career
explode?
Yeah, so I went on the road with Dad in 1991, 90, and so I had
graduated high school. I had written him a letter telling
him, you know, who I was, and I wanted to reconnect with him.
And so I got to go on the road with him. Jody was pregnant with
Carson. You kids were on the road. Carla, my older sister,
was on the road. Deborah Ann, my older older sister, would come
in. Meet, but it was crazy because the first show we did
was in Austin at a at a very well known club that is now
escaping my brain, and he had all of us with our microphones
just at the end of the stage, just in a straight line, like
like the Opry, and I just remember looking out over the
and not being able to see the end because all it's standing
room only, and I can't see the end, so I don't know where it
ends. Right. And the first three rows were all the people I went
to high school with, or all the people I went to school with.
Right. That like probably didn't believe that I was really his
daughter because he never showed himself when I was growing up.
So it was just surreal. And then to have them sing the songs
back, like you know that I just had goosebumps. I got off the
stage that day and I looked at him and said, "Yeah, I think I
want to do this now. Because originally I was going to be an
actress. I was going to go to New York. I was going to try to
do the whole Broadway thing, and I had my plan. And he was like,
"Just come on the road with me for two weeks. And if you
absolutely love it, then you're with me. And if you don't love
it, then you go on with your plan. And that first show, I got
that that high of performing in front of a live audience and
that energy that happens, and I was just like, "Oh, I think I've
changed my mind. So yeah, I mean, it's surreal to to watch
people treat them with so much admiration, and they're
starstruck, and you're you're proud, but at the same time,
it's kind of a a little bit of an out of body experience. It's
like, am I really witnessing this? You know, these people
that are that are fanning all over dad because he's my dad.
It's a different perspective, right? So I wasn't with him
probably when the radio stuff started happening. He was with
Jody at that time, so I got to listen to his songs on the
radio. But it it was definitely at a distance. Yeah, you
probably do. You have any memories of being on the road
when there were two semis and a limo, and you know, like there
was like eight vehicles on a carnival. I mean, it was like a
carnival showed up in Government Town. I mean, I've seen the
pictures, and I'm just like, this looks insane. Do you
remember? Do you have memory of that?
Was Dad broke again at some point? Because I remember
traveling in like a van as a very young child, and that was
rough. But then we did eventually get to a bus again.
Well, he went broke
from having all that carnival stuff, because I always
wondered, because I thought, you know, he's not getting a lot of
play on the radio, but man, this guy-I mean, you know, other
country acts would show up; they'd have maybe a bus or two.
This dude comes; he's got three busses, semi trucks everywhere.
There's like, or the
Rolling Stones in town. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of the way it
was.
And but you know it was smart of him because it was almost like a
PT Barnum, you know something big's coming to
town.
Yeah, there there was a short period of time where there was a
van, then there I think there was an RV, and then ultimately I
think yeah there was a bus and a band bus. Yeah, you know that
kind of seemed to be and that was my era.
Mine was a bus, a van, and then like a it almost looks like a
U-Haul moving truck, but you know so to to haul the equipment
in. Yeah, that was my era as well. Yeah, he ripped out the
middle part of the bus to make bunk beds so that me and Carla
could be with you guys, and then he ripped out one of the chairs
in the front so that he could have a crib for Carson. Yeah, he
really did love having his family and us children on the
road with him. Wow,
that has to be nice.
Yeah,
really. In fact, I loved a picture I saw of him. I think
he's riding a bicycle, and I think your sister Cheyenne's in
the picture, and Carson's in there too.
Yeah, that was backstage at a show, and and yeah, I mean, once
my parents divorced, most of the time we got to spend with Dad
was just we would go visit him at shows and try to get in a
little time before the show, maybe after the show, and you
know it was more limited. But yeah, that was a a moment when
we went to go visit and he had a bike and yeah he was on the
water and there's a big parking lot and yeah.
But your mother needs to get some recognition here, Jody,
because she did everything while she was with me. She ran the fan
club. She she wanted she wanted to keep it going.
We keep making jokes that we're going to get her back on it.
Well, see, that's why you guys need to go out on the road play,
and you can have her out there. Yeah, I
mean, I think I think everyone can agree. My mom's awesome.
She's the best. She's the greatest. She's the whole reason
that
I got to be with Dad. I mean, I I give her full credit because
she was she had you young kids. It was definitely all about
family, and so when I sent my letter, it was during the time
when Jody and him were married, and it was all about family, and
so I was I was welcomed with open arms and a full heart, and
and I didn't have to prove myself, and I never felt like I
I was the odd man out. I mean, I was welcomed as if I had always
been there. Yeah, and I I totally every time I get a
chance to speak well, it's like I give Jody all the credit, you
know, because I don't think if he was married to her, I don't.
Think I would have had that. I wouldn't have had a different
experience if one at all.
Right. Okay. Thinking
this like, you know, after my dad passing, my mom has opened
her home to, you know, all of my half siblings. She's there for
the fans, and now our new half sibling. Yes. Who most women
would not be able to digest this or handle this, but basically,
my dad got another woman pregnant while my mom was
pregnant with me.
Yeah,
and now we have Josh. Now we're now we have Josh in our life at
this age and stage in life, and you know, my mom has welcomed
him and his family. You know, and so he's awesome. Him and his
wife and their
children are just wonderful, and we've spent we spent time with
them at the funeral. Yeah, we're spending time with them for
Fourth of July. In September, we're going to be spending time
with them again, maybe even for New Year's. I mean, it's crazy
because it's almost like he's always been a part of the
family. She's giving him a hard time. He's giving her a hard
time.
He fits in. He
fits in. He just fits right in, and and that's how hilarious and
Jack is. Yeah, Jody is like, oh, you you are related to my
children, and so therefore you're related to me, and and
welcome to my home. And it's awesome. Yeah, and that's and
and she should be really good. She's gorgeous. Yeah, she is
absolutely stunning. She's a stunning woman, but she's
actually beautiful on the inside too. And she comes
from a good family. I have, I have a great family, extended
family in Michigan, great aunts, uncles, a slew of cousins, and
you know, that's.
So you had asked how it was to be raised with a famous father,
and I guess I would say we had the most normal life you could
possibly have, but it's probably thanks to our mothers. My mother
made sure I had a pretty normal upbringing, and I think Jody did
the same for you kids. I mean, when you guys were on the road,
she still tried to make it fun. She still tried to make it as
normal as possible. You know, there wasn't any peacocking or
showboating. Yeah, when she was on stage with Dad, she had the
keyboard and she played her parts and she sang her songs.
But again, she's not, she's not trying to steal the spotlight
from him. This is she didn't
want to do it. She didn't want to do it. I know Dad wanted her
to, but
yeah,
he seemed to do that a lot because I remember your brother.
You know, he told him that the story I heard that he told him,
he he said, "Have you been practicing your guitar? I
heard you. Yeah, I mean, I think that was just dad. He, I think
dad wanted to put on a show. I think that he thought that
family brought an element to the show, especially during that
phase in his life when he was trying to, you know, make it as
a a country family artist type man. I think that I think that
we, you know, he felt like it worked for his image. I think it
did.
Yeah, I
think it did because I saw a big change in people that didn't.
Yeah, care
for his older image, and when you know, and he
had us, he had us. I mean, he had me on stage and on talk to
you as a little baby, you know, and just you know, it's like
anything. And we
would do live shows, and they would bring they would bring the
kids out. Yeah, you know, he. You had to be comfortable with
being in the spotlight.
Yeah,
because you were going to be in the spotlight. Right. Yeah. You
know, we
didn't have a choice.
But it wasn't like you were like kicking and screaming
begrudgingly going. You were like, I mean, okay, cool. Where
do I look? It's just what we did.
You know. Yeah.
Yeah. It's second nature.
Well, I got to ask you, Tanya, what got you into creating
Goodbye Girls? Your your yeah.
So I kind of revealed a little bit earlier. You know, I met my
friend Kim in college. We were in economics class. I was at
MTSU at that time, and we were. She was dating a guy who was in
a band. She ended up. I ended up going to a show, or not even a
show. I ended up meeting up with her and one of the guys that was
in the band. His name was Dwayne. We met that night. I
think we ended up being together for about three years after
that. And yeah, he. We were just one thing I did while I was in
college to help supplement income, and my mom had, she used
to take us thrifting, take us to Goodwills and stuff like that.
And my mom is a she's a professional seamstress, and so
she just taught me a lot about fabrics and well-made clothes
and quality things to look for. And so I kind of created this
eye, and I would resell things on. I would go thrift and resell
things on eBay, and that was a way that I waited tables too.
But I that was another way that I supported myself through
college was just reselling. And my friend Kim turned out we had
the same passion for that. So then when we were dating guys in
the same band and both living in Nashville, and we were going to
their shows, and we would just go third, and we had accumulated
all this cool kind of stage wear type stuff, and we would just
dress our friends and for photo shoots and whatever and cool
stuff. And basically, my friend Kim she found a commercial space
that was so tiny, it's about the size of a closet, but it was
only $300 a month. So if we split it, it was going to be
one. 50 a month, and we got it. And we were only open on
Saturdays in the beginning. And so again, kind of like the music
thing, it was just something that everything in my life is
just something that organically, naturally happened. And I was
still working two other part-time jobs when I opened my
shop, and we were. But yeah, then we just one thing led to
another. And then actually, after about four years, she she
got a dream job and moved to California, and she you know was
generous and gracious enough to let me keep going with the shop,
and so then I became the sole owner, and so I've just had it
ever since. And yeah, how many years now? I think 16 and a half
years. I started it when I was 23 and it's that's
that's amazing. I mean that you know in this day and time to be
able to last in retail 16 years. That's my volume. COVID. Yeah,
I've
kept my overhead low. Lana Del Rey helped me out in COVID. I
will say that she she I reached out to her and she made a post
for me that sent me a lot of customers and a lot of online
orders, Lana. But yeah, I've. It's like any small business,
and it's and we're currently in in an economy that's hard on
small businesses, and you'll hear that a lot. And and and I'm
no different. My shop's no different, but I keep my
overhead low, and I've kind of learned how to how to go with
the flow. And she has a lot of
stuff in her space, though she's she's utilized the the room very
well. So it's not just like one single rack all the way around
the room. She's got stuff on the wall. I mean, you know, if it's
not nailed down, it's for sale. And there's a lot. And there's a
there's a boho vibe. There's a country vibe. She's got everyday
retail fashion, but then she's also got vintage like cowboy
boots and really cool, you know, like star-studded jackets, and
you know, like Lady Gaga's fashion person took one of
Jody's outfits and bought it, and then did this big public
thing, and so Tanya got to do this side by side of like here's
my mom in this outfit and oh here's Lady Gaga, I mean like
you've had some really cool things happen with your store
and I always
say it's the little shop that could. It is the little shop
that could and it just keeps giving it just giving yeah and
goodbye
be by and yeah so the the
band that the guys had their most popular song, the one that
seemed everyone liked, was called Goodbye Girls B Y E.
Yeah. So when we started this shop, and and we were always
saying, look at this goodbye. You know, that was something we
were always saying. So then we just said Goodbye Girls, and
yeah. See,
I think that's a great name. I just love. And do you have a
website for? Yeah, we
have a website. Goodbye, girls. Oh, goodbye girlsnashville.com
and. and yeah, we're in the Five Points Alley shops. Where it's
you know we I'm like people are gonna look it up. I don't have
any set hours. We're kind of in this like weird phase where I'm
like it's just kind of like yeah, I've had the shop for a
long time, and it's a little more like we're just there when
we can be there, which is pretty much every day. But I just I
can't do the Google thing anymore. I did that for 16
years, and I'm I'm momentarily just kind of needing to be able
to be more flexible. But if you need to see
her, she'll open the the shop and she'll let you in. Yes, like
if you if you see something online and you're like, hey, I
wanna I wanna try that on in person. Yeah, I mean she's
flexible. Like, and
I-I mean, I've had people that have shop have, you know, I
think that's the thing is like the shop became, it's like a
little community in itself, and I've just met so many people,
made so many connections, and just really have a love and care
for my customers and everyone that walks through my door. So
it's been a cool way to connect with people.
See, I never have really understood these Nashville
thing, but I'm getting to where I really understand it more now.
It's a really cool little area. It
is, yeah, it is
very cool. And that also, I got to clear up something here too
that a lot of people think just because it's Tanya Montana music
that this this book that's been re-released, this is David Allen
Coe that you're doing it, but it's not you.
Yeah, no, it's not. I mean, I have helped with getting it back
in print and getting it on Amazon. My husband and his
brother actually helped as well, and it's been all of us have
been you know in talks about it, and but no, I did not. You know,
it's a book that's written by my dad. It does feature a lot of my
newsletters that my mom wrote when she was part of the fan
club. But yeah, basically, I just helped get it back in print
because it seemed like after dad's passing, that book was a
little bit of a harder one to get a hold of, and it was just
starting to go. You know, on eBay, it was. I mean? Some were
listed for $2,000 Some were listed for 400 300 500 and so I
just thought, you know, when my husband's brother had had a
little experience with getting a book on Amazon, and so he kind
of knew and understood how to do that process, and so we scanned
all 330 something pages and. Got it uploaded and it's on there
and yeah, but it is as it is right now. It's just truly just
a reprint of Dad's original book and it's basically like a
scrapbook. And I remember when he was working on it, he was
super proud of it. And it's just it's a great book for our
family. I feel like because it's just such a it just represents
such a a great time,
and it's not like he sat in a room and somebody dictated what
he had to say. Right, he physically put the pages
together, and it's his handwriting talking about his
thoughts. And you know, there's a page. It only goes up until a
certain moment, right? Because at some point, you have to print
it. Right. So I'm sure you know the story actually does
continue, but Jody has the publishing for that book and
different CDs. Do you happen to know what the tattoo is? So
yeah,
so when my parents were married and my dad wasn't, he had been I
guess I don't know if he was dropped or just wasn't on a
major label. They basically started the publishing company
Tanny Montana Music, named after me, and in when they were
getting a divorce, and my parents had an amicable divorce.
They decided on all the money stuff together, and all the you
know all that stuff, and it was all amicable. And yeah, you know
the the fan club and Tanny Montana Music. I mean, my mom
had put her heart and soul and hard work into all that stuff,
and my dad let it stay with her for her and for us kids. And so
there are four albums. She has 1990 songs for sale.
Great record.
She has "Living on the Edge, "Granny's Offer Rocker, and
"Standing Too Close to the Flame. And then
Granny's Offer Rocker. And I'm Tyler, and I are on the cover
of that line,
standing too close to the flame. Is Jody reaching for the lamp on
the fireplace man? Yeah, with an old
picture of bold publicity.
I'm getting chills talking. Back in Dave Coe,
and then Dave Coe, and then you know she, and so then the the
black book, and then she actually has the book Psychopath
as well, and so
that was his novel, was it not? Yes, that was yeah.
Yes, and I haven't actually. We're I haven't read it. Yeah, I
haven't read it either. So we're we need to read it, and we need
to decide whether or not we're gonna get that one back out
there too. See,
I have all of his books except for that one, and this is David
Allen Co. I don't have them. Oh well, we've
re-released it so that you don't have to pay $500 or $1,000 to go
out. welcome. I don't have that. But you know, a lot of people
have spun a narrative that Tanya is getting money for songs that
were written, or that she's getting money for books, or that
she wrote books. And it's like, no, it's Tanya Montana
Publishing that's owned by Jody. I mean, yeah. I mean, it's
just-it's crazy. Don't get me wrong. Oh, I've
heard. Yeah.
I think it's sad that us children don't. You know, I
think my dad. We. You know. I had always. I can't imagine that
my dad wouldn't have wanted to take care of us kids, right? You
know, in any way that he could. But no, I mean, as far as I
know, none of us kids make. We're not. We don't. We don't
make any money from his songs, from his royalties. His, you
know, there's no money. I mean, you know, I've I've worked my
whole life. You know, I mean, I worked three jobs while putting
myself through college, and you know, I mean, I've worked every
day. I was babysitting before I could even legally get a job,
you know. I mean, I. The
narrative is that you know we're silver spoon kids, and that
we're now reaping the benefits from Dad's death, and that we're
getting all of this stuff. We own no merchandise. All of his
jackets, any anything that's David Alinko related belongs to
the estate. We're not part of the estate. We've actually been
boldly claimed to. If you read the will, we have been excluded
from everything. I mean, that was the very first sentence in
the will that we've been excluded from everything, and
that broke our hearts too because we've been told our
whole lives that Dad loved us and that he the family is
important. Like he actually has written that in his own words.
You know, family is everything. Be good to them, and so that's
that's been something that we've had to struggle with is the fact
that the way things have turned out has not necessarily been the
way that Dad may or may not have wanted it. And but that's okay.
We are a family, and we love each other, and we're going to
keep going down this road together as a family. But we
also want to, we want to come onto the radio and tell you guys
this because so many things are happening online, and you know,
15 comments later, we're the devil, and it's like we didn't
even know. And so, one of the reasons why we were so thankful
that you invited us here is so that we can talk about the
things that are important to us. But also, the message to the
Dave Aldenco fans is that you know we know how much Dad loved
them, and we loved him just as much, if not more. And we're
devastated that things are playing out the way they are,
and we don't know what the future holds for the name of
David Allen Coe. We don't know what his name's going to get put
on. We don't know what's going to get released. We have no
power over anything, and so that's scary and it's sad.
Yeah, it is. And but I've got to tell you guys, I don't know how
much it means to you, but you have my admiration. You have for
a long time. Well, I have. I've I've really admired how you guys
have handled your lives, and I think you've done it with glass.
I've also defended you guys a lot. We appreciate that. And in
fact, one was somebody said that was quoted that you and you got
royalties from Stand By Your Man, and I'm thinking, how could
you get royalties of Stand By Your Man? He didn't write that.
Well, and he
recorded it in '81. I was born in '86, way before you were
born. That was set at the funeral in front of everyone. I
don't know why. My yeah, I don't know. Is
this really the first time you've been able to kind of go
on record and talk about these things? Yes,
I've talked about this. I've tried to post about things on my
social media before, but I mean, yeah, I've never not at
that nauseum like this. Kind of going at length. Interesting.
Well, that's why I wanted to have you guys on. Thank you. One
big reason was I just wanted to talk about your lives because
I've always, like I said, admired you, and I admire Tyler.
I mean, I loved his podcast. Yeah, you know, cocaine and
rhinestones. Yeah, what a great podcast!
Appreciate that. I think people. I think there's some people that
want to erase us and and act as if we never existed, and so it
means a lot for people to, you know. Well, that ain't gonna
happen as long as to show support. Well, as long as
Johnny B's around, that's not gonna happen. So you guys will
always, and anytime you want to come back, please do. Well, I'm
gonna come back because you have a slip and slide that you guys
created right outside. Right off. It is. I don't know if
that's like a half a mile long down a hill, but it looks fun.
You guys should probably have an ambulance standing by because it
also looks like you're going to have some massive traction as
you're going down. Well, if Jay and I if
Jay and I go down, that probably I go down
it. It looks like your your Fourth of July birthday, happy
birthday by the way, is going to be incredible. Well,
thank you for that. But once again, thank you for. And if
there's, how can people check you guys out? Is there anything
you want to promote? I mean,
truly, I'm not very active with music. I'm not playing any
shows. I, but you know, I do. We've got to change that. Maybe,
but I do have a band camp that still has vinyl of my first
album, Silver Bullet, and then CDs of my second album Hydro
Emotion.
And I have a band camp also of the second album A Girl Like Me.
And how you can get a hold of us, I guess, or how you can
continue to follow our story is that each child has a Facebook
page. Some of us are more active than others. Some of us don't
really want to be in the spotlight, and so we we have
massive respect for that. Others want to figure out a way to
monetize and and possibly have a career with that, and so we're
just cheerleading each other. Those that want to be visible,
we're pushing it on our own website to help push the
narrative for them, and then those that want to be quiet and
and more reserved, then we put little hearts on their faces
when we post, just out of respect for them. And I mean,
it's just really, it's a it's a fluid thing at this moment.
We're just the main thing is is that we're all together. We've
got a new brother we didn't have before, and we are just loving
on each other, and we're helping each other navigate the loss of
dad because each one of us is going to be processing it
different. Some of you know some of us process it in different
times, and just the important thing is just to be there for
each other when when when you fall apart.
Well, you guys will be in our thoughts and prayers constantly,
and absolutely thank you for what you're doing, and thank
you, and just well, keep just just keep showing support
for us, and we'll keep keep doing it.
Well, just just keep that family unit together. That that is
important. It's important. It really is. You guys are doing a
great job. Thank you. And tell your mother she's doing a great
job.
I will,
and she has my. I respect her. I don't know her. I've talked to
her one time, but what a sweet woman! And and she has been
quite a warrior.
Yes.
So thanks again for coming on our podcast, Jay. Tell the folks
how they can check us out, and please do.
Yeah, you know our 16,000 followers now can still find us
on Facebook, of course. You know the video component is also
available on our YouTube channel, but of course all of
the other podcast platforms, iHeart, Apple Podcasts, TuneIn,
etc. And of course there's the merchandise at circling the.
Drain.net, and look for our OnlyFans site coming up soon.
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stay tuned next time for circling the drain.