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Unknown: I can't imagine that my
dad wouldn't have wanted to take

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care of us kids, and you know,
in any way that he could. But

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no, I mean, as far as I know,
none of us kids make. We're not.

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We don't. We don't make any
money from his songs, from his

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royalties. His, you know,
there's no money. I mean, you

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know, I've I've worked my whole
life. You know, I mean, I worked

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three jobs while putting myself
through college, and you know, I

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mean, I've worked every day. I
was babysitting before I could

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even legally get a job. You
know, I mean, I. The narrative

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is that you know we're silver
spoon kids, and that we're now

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reaping the benefits from Dad's
death, and that we're getting

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all of this stuff. We own no
merchandise. All of his jackets,

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any anything that's David Alenco
related belongs to the estate.

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We're not part of the estate.
We've actually been boldly

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claimed to. If you read the
will, we have been excluded from

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everything.

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Welcome to a podcast about music
and entertainment before it all

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goes down the disposal. This is
circling the drain.

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Hey, welcome back to circling
the drain. John E. Bozeman here.

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Johnny B. Most people know me
by. You know that

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silver-throated

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yes

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devil over there. That would

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be Johnny Harper. Yes, yes. We
are back. We are back, and we

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are so excited, man. I almost
want to forget Jim McCarthy

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because I'm so excited about the
guest. But no, we we have to, of

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course, mention our. I'm very
forgettable. Yes, no, you're far

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from it. But no, the man who
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James Patrick McCarthy. Yes,
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almost like a he's almost like a
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in line.

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Yes, yes. We

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are excited because we have two
talented young ladies in our

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midst, and they not only are
talented, but they come from you

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know a legend, David Allen Coe.

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Yeah,

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and I'm talking about his
daughters. You have Tanya

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Montana, and you are like
folklore because you have a

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song, a classic song that was
written about the music video.

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Yeah, this is true. The only
music

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video that Dad ever did. Yeah,

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except for that. Take this job
and recent one he did that,

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yeah, yeah, we won't talk about
that one. Not important. Shelly,

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yeah, co is here, and she she is
a great artist herself. Both of

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them have, and I'm trying to
tell them both to keep playing

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and singing.

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Never say never. That's my
answer.

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Well, yeah, you should because
I'm a huge fan of both of you.

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Thank you, thank you.

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And in fact, I'd have to add
Tyler in there too, because in

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fact, it was funny. I saw David
play in this really small place.

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Well, it wasn't small actually;
it was huge. It was in this

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really strange town called
Covington, Georgia. It was

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called the Ozone Bar and Grill,
and I saw David with Blackberry

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Smoke, and your brother was on
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just blown away by him. And I
wanted to tell him after the

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show how much I loved his
playing, but I could tell he was

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not in a good mood, so I left
him alone. I was going to,

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and he has an instrumental album
as well that he did many many

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years ago, long before his
podcast,

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really, I wasn't unaware of him.
Yeah, I've got to get it.

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Yeah,

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because I really did dig
watching him play. He was cool.

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Plus, he looked like he belonged
in Lynn Skinner because his hair

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was real long. Oh yeah, he
looked like Alan Collins. Yeah,

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good looking kid.

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so all

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my siblings are good looking.

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Yeah, the all of you, and you
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are. Thank you.

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In fact, the camera loves you.
There, there. I watched what was

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it? Heartworn highways, part
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were you aware of that?

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I'm like, wait, was I?

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You were. You were really. Yeah,
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it's some. It may be a bar type
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East Nashville somewhere.

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Gosh, and they do. I don't know
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that. Haven't

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seen. I didn't know there was a
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there's a part two. I'm gonna

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have to look that up.

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I was in a little film called
East Nashville Tonight, and I

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feel like that was being filmed
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Heartworn Highways Two, and I'm
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mixing those up or something, or
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they took that that moment and
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to look that up later.

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Yeah, you'll need to because
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camera loves you because she was
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getting served something and you
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was really cool. Yeah, I mean
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more Tanya and and Tyler because
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there, God rest his soul, and
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in it. Yeah, yeah.

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I didn't know it was around, so
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looking.

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Oh yeah, it's a good good movie.
But what got what got you guys

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into music? Was it your father
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So my mom left when I was
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of Austin in a little town
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And coincidentally, I was raised
with Willie Nelson's grandkids.

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Well, that's where you had the
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Dripping Springs reunion.

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Yeah. So when we had our our
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was out at the property. But I
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one year telling us that we
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just didn't really have anything
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poems, and then I started kind
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into songs, and so I started
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nine. I didn't actually start
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older, but I've always sung.
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growing up. That's how we we
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listened to music and we sang
and you know that kind of thing.

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My mom taught me harmonies, so I
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age. I'm on an album of Dad's,
the family album. Yes, I'm on

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the front cover with my mom, and
then when you open it up,

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there's other pictures of me and
Carla, and just like family

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moments are on it, and then on
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family moments, but there is a
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Father, Holy Mother.

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and all of the co-women that
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recording studio to record that.
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it's only like so. If you're
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right channel and a left
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child singing. You'll hear a
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that's me. Yes. And then you
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and I want to say that was
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technically, I've been singing
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I remember that cover too
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the baby pictures.

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They did that on. I don't know
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purpose, but yes. So on the
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wrong, but like my name is on
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And I don't know if they do that
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I'm sure Dad had to approve
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print. But for that particular
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that. Yes.

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When did you start?

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think I've been learning just
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the stuff. I mean, I remember. I
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influenced by Dad just from I
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lot of time on the road, and so
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all of my formative childhood
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perform on stage. He'd bring you
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dad toured constantly. He he
played many, probably played

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four or five nights a week, you
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my childhood. So I mean, yeah, I
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enamored with him, and and I
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he in I, you know, in all the
home videos, I'm yeah, I'm

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singing. I would make up my own
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really encouraging. Dad and I
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type of relationship. When he
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would fax each other every day,
and I would always, you know,

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you know, I had faxes. They're
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today. Here's the titles. I
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They're just, you know, but, and
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writing. I was always singing. I
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that, but had never really
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really, after my parents'
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took me, I had really gotten
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myself. Really didn't think I
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the family at all. I just worked
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with my younger siblings and
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things you know that I was
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anything like that. But yeah, I
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know how to play any
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raised to learn how to play an
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I was dating a guy who was a
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to play guitar. And I just
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well, you can't start writing
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just did. I just tell me what to
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and so yeah, funny. So that kind
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was just therapeutic for me. I
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anything.

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I you know wasn't anything I
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had actually been in accounting,
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accountant. And then I was not
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and I was still very young. And
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made in college, we actually
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together. And through having the
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had had another friend move here
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business partner, but it was
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girls. And she was a musician,
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in music and wanting to play
shows. And so, what's her name?

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Her name's Brienne, and we're
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And she's got a baby on the way.
I'm so excited. But my friend

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Kim is my friend who I met in
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Goodbye Girls with, and Kim
just-I had only been playing

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guitar for about six months and
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writing songs. But she booked us
a GG Happy Hour. GG is short for

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Goodbye Girls. Yeah, where we
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songwriters and bands, and I was
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at these little writers' rounds
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sold clothes and performed.
That's brilliant. I really was

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brilliant. I was very naive and
not really thinking, "Oh, I have

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a famous dad, and I'm putting
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doing it. I was having fun with
my friends. Yes, I hope that

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none of those videos ever get
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judges. You don't want on them
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fun with your friends. Well,

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I'm just worried they won't take
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understand that.

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Yeah, and so, and then things
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recording and stuff. I mean,
things just happened

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organically. Things just really,
the expression fell into your

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lap is such a kind of annoying
expression. I think sometimes,

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but I truly feel like that's
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don't have

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to force it. If it just
naturally occurred, everything

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falls into place. That is the
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you are supposed to express
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of the world is supposed to hear
what you have to say. I'm

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getting chills talking. No,
that's that's it. That's why it

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happened so easy.

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And me having the shop is part
of what led to that, and really

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what got me started on that
journey, especially the

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recording, because I really was
not wanting to put myself out

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there. I didn't think I was
ready, and I look back, I

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probably wasn't ready. I'm still
not ready to deal with all

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that's out there, but I have a
shop where it's in a little

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collective of shops where
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there was another shop owner.
Her name was Molita, and she was

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married to a musician named Todd
Snyder. Oh yeah, and he would

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just come up and hang at the
shops during the day, and he

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would always bring his guitar.
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that's so cool. I just one day,
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I mean, he would just we would
just be up there, and so when

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there were no customers or
whatever, we would just all hang

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outside and just pass the guitar
around and sing. And after a

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couple months of doing that,
Melita one day she said, "Hey,

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Todd really wants to record you,
and I was like, "What? Like, you

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know? And she's like, "He thinks
you're really good. He really

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likes your songs, and he wants
to record you, and he wants to

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get you in a studio, and he's
going to pay for everything and

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all that stuff. See, I

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told you. So,

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so that's how that that's how
that ended up happening.

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Yeah, that's a great story too.
And I remember when you put out

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Silver Bullet because I was on a
political talk show at the time,

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and they people loved the
bumpers I chose. And one of the

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bumpers I chose, I I used Silver
Bullet when it came out, and I

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got to tell you, it was the that
one and another one by a guy

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named I don't know if you're
familiar with Todd Zillow, Todd

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Austin. He's this great guitar
player. Okay, I'm

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not familiar. I mean, I'm I'm
the worst at being familiar, but

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I know by the song or something.
That's kind

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of the same. You can play a
song, and I'm like, oh, I've

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heard this song a million times,
and then you're like, who sings

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it? I'm like,

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well, it's really funky. He's
like Jones world. He's like

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Prince meets Eddie Van Halen

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type.

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But both you guys, I got
requests. Like they go, can you

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play that bumper again? And they
would ask who it was, and I. So

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I turned a lot of people on to
you. So so you need to keep it

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up.

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Oh, Silver Bullet was the first
full song from beginning to

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finish that I really did, you
know, on my own, and

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it was a great video. Very proud
of that

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song.

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Even while my wife thought I was
just looking at it because she

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goes, "She's taking off her
clothes in it. That's why you

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like it. No, I like the song. I
like the video. Now it's done.

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It was

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just all my home video. They
were just really DIY home

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videos, you know, that my
husband took on our iPhone, and

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yeah, we just you know we're
just DIYers, just creative, just

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having fun, and you know.

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Well, see, I think most, I think
more people need to do that,

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especially these days in music,
because radio is not what it

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used to be. And in a way, I'm
kind of happy because because I

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argued with someone.

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It was completely different last
week. Yeah. Well, the thing is,

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I argued with a writer in town
when I because I put your video

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up on my Facebook and said,
"Yeah, you know, man, I'm really

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knocked out by you know what
she's doing. And this writer

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goes, well, that's not how Billy
Sherrill taught us how to blah

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blah. And I said, you got to
quit looking at it like that.

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Look at Frank Zappa. That guy
wasn't radio ready, but he still

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put out great music. Yeah,

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Billy Sherrill would have been
very supportive of anything that

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David Allen Coe's children would
have produced. Oh,

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I would think so. End of

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story. Yeah, because it came
from the children of Dave Allen

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Coe, and he firmly believed in
everything that Dad did.

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Yeah,

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what direction Dad wanted to do,
the type of music. Like you

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know, sometimes it sounds like
he's on an island, you know,

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with a with a drink with an
umbrella in his hand. Sometimes

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it sounds like you know he's
rock and roll. I mean, his style

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wasn't just one style. No, it
varies. And well, even the

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covers

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were different.

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And Billy pivoted and moved with
him. He didn't try to steer him

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back to the road. He's like,
"Oh, you want to go over here?

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Yeah, sure. Let's go over here.
Let's explore. He would have

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embraced the creativity, and he
would have encouraged to be

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different. You don't. They
already have a David Allen Co.

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They don't need another David
Allen Co. formula. Like be

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unique, be different.

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Well, and I get it. And I mean,
they're not wrong for saying if

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it wasn't radio, it wasn't radio
friendly. And that, and I didn't

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know any better. That's I didn't
know about the songwriting

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structures. I didn't know the
rules. I just it just really

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just came out of me. But see,

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I like that. I see. I like I I
told you earlier when I first

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heard Silver Bullet, I thought
the way the song sounds and

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everything about it reminds me
of like John Lennon's Plastic

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Ono band. I love that because I
love that album. I love that

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you're saying that too, because
my husband's like the biggest

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Beatles fan. So when he hears
this back and hears that

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comparison, I'm I'm gonna get
some points at home. Well, in

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fact,

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I would say that that that's
what I like about your music is

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that it's a lot like when John
Lennon was really introspective

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because you your other one,
which I thought would hide your

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emotions, yeah. You had a song
on there, and you know I don't

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want to, I don't want to upset
you know my you know the

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Christian part of my family, but
but it was a song called All

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Effed Up, and I could really
identify with it. I mean,

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that one seemed to really end up
connecting with that song out of

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all the songs in the albums.
You'd end up connecting with the

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most people. I was kind of
surprised by that. I just didn't

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put it on there because yeah, I
was like, my grandma's never

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going to forgive me.

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But it's brave, and and like I
said, if you come from a because

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my family was very
dysfunctional, and if you come

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from a dysfunctional type
family. I think you can really,

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yeah,

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you know, you can really
identify with it. And I really

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identified with one you had
called what was it? All, gosh,

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now I'm blanking out on it. I
need my name. Yes, I love that

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song.

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Thank you very

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much.

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I wrote that song a long time
ago, before before relationships

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became what they are.

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Yeah,

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and I did it out of love for my
dad.

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Yeah,

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and I'm just like, this is the
outside looking in, and I just I

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care about you. I love you, and
you need to know this.

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Yeah,

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but it ended up being that a lot
of people resonated with it, not

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just famous people. Oh yeah, but
you know, a lot of people

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resonated with it. And then the
music video, humorously enough,

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is done at a furniture store
after it's closed for the day. I

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had some friends that did a
consignment shop in Austin, and

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so when she was closed for the
day, she let me come in and and

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have the pick of the whole
store. And so that beautiful

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purple throne that I was sitting
on, I really wanted to take

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home, but that's that's the
music videos there, and it was

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just the simplest thing to do. I
brought 15 changes of clothes,

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and we did. We took 15 different
takes of that, and then they

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ended up with the final product.
And then the person who did

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that, Stevie Tombstone, who is
an artist himself and a damn

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good singer songwriter, he was
the one who spliced and diced,

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and he put raw footage from his
touring days in with the video,

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and he was the one who produced
the video and released the

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video, and I'm just so I'm so
happy that he had that skill set

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because I can sing. I don't know
how to record. I don't know how

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to make a video. I mean, I'm at
the mercy of other people's

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talents when it comes to that.
So I was just so grateful that

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Stevie. I mean, Stevie and I
have been friends for a long.

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Time and I will go and sing with
him on stage live, or I'll

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record stuff with him. And you
know, if if he's doing a show,

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we may split the the night, and
he's playing guitar and singing

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with me on my songs, or we're
trading back and forth, and it's

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just a very loose but organic
friendship. And so when he

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offered to do that for me, I was
like, yeah, I thank you, thank

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you for doing that for me
because that's the only music

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video I have. I don't have any
other. I have music, lots of

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music. Yes, you do. But that's
the only music video that I

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have. So yeah,

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Tanya, you say that when you got
a little bit older in your your

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parents' divorce, that you kind
of stepped away, I guess, from

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the whole music scene thing, and
grew up "quote unquote" normal.

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But with the last name Co. did
did people ask you, or did they

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assume that you know? Are you
related to David Allen, or are

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you a singer? I mean, did you
grow up with with that having to

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answer that question from
people,

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well, and so to start off, I
mean, you know, I didn't

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necessarily choose to step away.
I think you know, once my

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parents separated, it's just I
would still go on the road with

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my dad in the summers, which was
most of the time I saw him,

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anyways. Unless you know, that
was pretty common just to go on

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the road in the summer. So he
was still in my life to some

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extent. But in middle school, I
mean, all through elementary

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school, middle school, it never
came up. You know, you're just

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too young. In high school, it
really didn't come up much. No,

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I mean, I don't, I don't know if
people just didn't really put

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two and two together at the
time.

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I didn't. I mean, I just, I
didn't talk about it a lot, and

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it was, I wasn't super popular
or anything, so it just wasn't

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something that was I wasn't
really put in a position to talk

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about it much. No.

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Yeah. Now you know both of you.
I mean, little kids out on the

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road. We've had Mickey Hayes as
a guest here. You know, your

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dad's bass player for many many
years, off and on. I mean, how

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did the band members treat the
little kids running around? I

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mean, I know that you know
they're the boss's kids, but

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still, I mean, what kind of
relationship do you have with

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you know with the the other the
other members? I

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mean, I feel like I owe those
people so much for for looking

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out for me, for taking care of
me. They still, so many people

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who worked for my dad,
especially during the time when

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we were little. I mean, they're
still in my life to this day.

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You know, they they really
cared, and yeah, I mean, it was

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their job as the boss's kids,
whatever. But I mean, I always

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just feel like my dad was so
fortunate to have a lot of

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really good people work for him,
and that cared about him, and

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they cared about the whole
aspect of everything, and they

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cared about us kids. Yeah, and I
feel fortunate.

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Yeah, well, that's that's good
to know. Like it's kind of like

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the whole Willie Nelson and
family thing. Oh

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yeah,

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you know, the road with the
whole bunch, man. Yeah, I mean,

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sometimes

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there were funny. You know, I
mean, I remember once I was

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about 11. I remember Dad. It was
just Tyler and I on the road

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with him that summer, and I was
in a little bit. And he's like,

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"If you're going to be out here,
he's like, you're going to have

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have to, you know, be okay with
you know the guys that they're

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going to be cussing and stuff.
He was trying to prepare me like

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it's a little rough out here,
you know. You're in a, and I

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was. I'm an 11 year old girl
just surrounded by nothing but

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men, you know, and just me and
out there with my brother, and

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so I mean, yeah. I mean, it was
it was rough, and it was it was

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interesting because I mean, you
know, I think my my mom sent us

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to these small private Christian
schools that were kind of like

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Christian, were like a church
school combined that had like

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chapel every day and stuff, and
all my close girlfriends and

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friends growing up came from
very religious church-going

444
00:23:43,390 --> 00:23:47,800
families, and so it's like I had
like the very extreme Christian

445
00:23:47,950 --> 00:23:50,980
Christ-like church side, and
then I'd go on the road with

446
00:23:51,010 --> 00:23:56,770
dad, and it was like, yeah, one
end of the spectrum. Yes, yes,

447
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,010
but every you know, and and
yeah, there's and Bob Bishop and

448
00:24:02,070 --> 00:24:03,510
Bruce Layton and definitely. I
love Bob

449
00:24:03,660 --> 00:24:07,350
Bishop. He was the scariest
looking man. He looked like

450
00:24:07,350 --> 00:24:09,450
Charles Manson. He did look
like. I mean, when I first met

451
00:24:09,510 --> 00:24:13,350
him, I was like, "I'm sorry,
what is going on? And you know,

452
00:24:14,010 --> 00:24:16,560
when I was on the road with Dad,
I stuck out like a sore thumb

453
00:24:16,620 --> 00:24:20,750
because I don't look like a
biker chick. I'm like, you know,

454
00:24:20,870 --> 00:24:24,320
I'm very preppy and I'm very
girly, and so we would go

455
00:24:24,500 --> 00:24:26,450
somewhere, and I'm like, I want
to walk around, and he's like,

456
00:24:26,570 --> 00:24:29,420
not without Bobby, and I'm like,
okay, so I'd walk around with

457
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:35,240
Bobby, you know, but yeah, the
they they were fiercely

458
00:24:35,330 --> 00:24:40,180
protective of us. They they kind
of like let us be us, but if

459
00:24:40,210 --> 00:24:43,420
somebody started to like get in,
like if we didn't know, but

460
00:24:43,540 --> 00:24:45,940
somebody was starting to move
into our space and it was gonna

461
00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:49,930
become something, right? Now
suddenly, you know, one of the

462
00:24:49,930 --> 00:24:52,900
bishop boys is coming up saying,
"Hey, man, your dad wants you to

463
00:24:52,930 --> 00:24:55,900
go do blah blah blah. Okay,
cool, and then we would leave,

464
00:24:55,990 --> 00:24:59,320
not realizing that they probably
just saved us from something

465
00:24:59,500 --> 00:25:03,900
crazy. Right. So they allowed us
to be ourselves, but they also

466
00:25:04,290 --> 00:25:04,740
protected

467
00:25:05,159 --> 00:25:08,489
us. Yeah. Well, and two, did you
have? Because one thing that

468
00:25:08,519 --> 00:25:11,999
concerned me about is I love
David's music. I loved your

469
00:25:12,029 --> 00:25:16,859
dad's music, but sometimes the
fans were a little well,

470
00:25:16,859 --> 00:25:20,429
especially the ones that took
the X-rated album seriously.

471
00:25:20,820 --> 00:25:20,970
Yeah. Yeah.

472
00:25:21,270 --> 00:25:24,920
Because I understood what he was
trying. He it it his X-rated

473
00:25:25,010 --> 00:25:29,060
albums reminded me of Red Fox's
old party albums. Yeah, I mean

474
00:25:29,090 --> 00:25:29,990
it's the Mel Brooks of

475
00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:33,950
of music. Yeah, I mean they're
space balls and blazing saddles

476
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,870
of music. Yeah, that's exactly.

477
00:25:35,990 --> 00:25:41,020
But some of them are like they
took it literally, and you know,

478
00:25:41,170 --> 00:25:43,840
some of them were very racist
people. Yeah, I mean,

479
00:25:44,199 --> 00:25:45,339
I think I don't know if you guys
ever

480
00:25:45,459 --> 00:25:47,259
ran into that or not. Of course,

481
00:25:47,590 --> 00:25:49,000
yeah, of course we ran into
that.

482
00:25:49,089 --> 00:25:49,149
Yeah,

483
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:54,790
but when Dad was alive, he would
just simply explain to them that

484
00:25:55,750 --> 00:26:00,070
that was that moment, and he's a
family man, and he's got his

485
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,670
young children on the road with
him, and he's got his older

486
00:26:02,790 --> 00:26:05,550
children on the road with him
and his wife, and he doesn't

487
00:26:05,610 --> 00:26:09,090
sing those songs live. And and
and you know, over there at the

488
00:26:09,210 --> 00:26:11,820
merch table is are those albums?
If you want to buy them, I'll

489
00:26:11,970 --> 00:26:16,410
sign them. Whatever. Right. But
but this show is a family show.

490
00:26:16,740 --> 00:26:19,530
Right. You know. Yeah, I'm gonna
cuss, whatever. But I'm not. I'm

491
00:26:19,590 --> 00:26:23,930
not gonna sing those things
live. There was a time when he

492
00:26:24,020 --> 00:26:26,900
tried to get almost kind of get
away from it if he could, and

493
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,710
unfortunately, you you can't
once you once you've released

494
00:26:30,740 --> 00:26:34,700
something into into the
universe, it's there. But he was

495
00:26:34,730 --> 00:26:35,330
very mindful.

496
00:26:35,629 --> 00:26:38,149
I think that's the tough part
too. Is like I've had you know

497
00:26:38,209 --> 00:26:41,499
people wonder if we were raised
with that

498
00:26:41,860 --> 00:26:42,850
racist belief, hate

499
00:26:43,030 --> 00:26:47,770
that that spirit, that energy,
and and it was. I mean, it was

500
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,480
something that I really. I've
first of all, I've never

501
00:26:49,570 --> 00:26:53,650
listened to the X-rated albums
on purpose. I know what they

502
00:26:53,860 --> 00:27:00,600
entail. I have had the internet,
you know. But you know, I mean,

503
00:27:00,930 --> 00:27:04,500
yeah. I think I at least was a
product of my dad's family man

504
00:27:04,650 --> 00:27:09,630
era, and I was mortified. I
mean, to be honest, like I, I

505
00:27:09,750 --> 00:27:15,090
had, I had never known of my dad
being racist. He had black band

506
00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:19,140
members. My best friend, my best
childhood friend growing up, was

507
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,650
a black girl. You know, her mom
had died of cancer when she was

508
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,660
in third grade. I grew up
spending the night at their

509
00:27:23,690 --> 00:27:26,720
houses, going to the black
church on Sundays. That was a

510
00:27:26,780 --> 00:27:29,900
huge part of my musical
influence as well. Like I love

511
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,360
black arts, I love black
culture, I love black music.

512
00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:35,180
Well, see, like your dad did
too. He

513
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:36,770
did. He did. I mean, when

514
00:27:36,859 --> 00:27:40,569
somebody writes a line like
"I've got black blood in my soul

515
00:27:40,629 --> 00:27:43,839
and black blood-you can't
control. That's not a racist

516
00:27:43,899 --> 00:27:44,499
man. It's

517
00:27:44,590 --> 00:27:49,390
hard to so yeah to have all of a
sudden your dad's like the

518
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:54,040
poster boy for racism. It's like
what? Like I and you don't want

519
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,070
to have anything to do with it.
And and I was as it's it's um

520
00:27:58,150 --> 00:28:00,960
it's it's tragic. It's
mortifying. I'm not saying it's

521
00:28:00,990 --> 00:28:04,470
okay. I wish she would have
never done those songs. And if

522
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,530
there are people that are using
that to

523
00:28:09,419 --> 00:28:10,259
spin their own narrative

524
00:28:10,590 --> 00:28:13,800
or or to perpetuate racism or
hate, that may that's very

525
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,840
that's the children of Dave

526
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,900
Allenco are not racist. No.
Okay. Can we just go on record

527
00:28:18,930 --> 00:28:22,190
and say that we are not racist
people? We were raised. I mean,

528
00:28:22,490 --> 00:28:27,170
actually, I I fully support love
is love. You should be able to

529
00:28:27,230 --> 00:28:31,910
love who you want, and you know,
I'm teaching my children the

530
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:37,550
same. We're not racist people,
you know. And yes, he has those

531
00:28:37,670 --> 00:28:40,210
albums out there. I personally
have never heard them. Somebody

532
00:28:40,300 --> 00:28:42,760
asked me why. I said because
he's my dad.

533
00:28:43,389 --> 00:28:43,809
Well, yeah. You

534
00:28:43,869 --> 00:28:46,479
know, and I don't see him in
that way. You don't see your

535
00:28:46,569 --> 00:28:49,779
father in that way. So I have no
interest in seeing or listening

536
00:28:49,929 --> 00:28:51,999
to those albums. Right. I just
don't.

537
00:28:52,270 --> 00:28:55,030
Well, see, I have. I and I sound
like I'm trying to

538
00:28:56,020 --> 00:28:56,560
stir the pot.

539
00:28:56,740 --> 00:28:58,870
Well, no. I was going to say. I
was

540
00:28:58,870 --> 00:29:00,810
going to say. I told you we
weren't going to talk about

541
00:29:01,050 --> 00:29:04,410
this, right? We have a list. I'm
sorry. No, no,

542
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:09,990
I. But I always felt like I was,
you know, I guess people will

543
00:29:09,990 --> 00:29:11,700
say, "Well, you sound like
you're apologizing. I said, "No,

544
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,200
I'm not. You're not getting it.
Everything this guy's done in

545
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,050
country music, even like you're
never even called me by my name.

546
00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:23,600
That's great song, but it's a
parody of country music. It's

547
00:29:23,690 --> 00:29:27,530
talking about you know all the
subject matter in country music,

548
00:29:27,620 --> 00:29:28,670
and he's having fun with

549
00:29:29,060 --> 00:29:29,240
it.

550
00:29:29,359 --> 00:29:33,709
I actually did a little thing in
my song "Truly" that was written

551
00:29:33,739 --> 00:29:37,399
by Billy D, who is also another
great singer-songwriter. You

552
00:29:37,429 --> 00:29:40,449
know the talking part of Dad's
song. I actually put that in

553
00:29:40,599 --> 00:29:43,599
Billy Dee's song, truly, when I
recorded it, and then I slid it

554
00:29:43,629 --> 00:29:45,729
over to him, and I didn't tell
him I was doing it, and he was

555
00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:48,609
just like, "Oh my gosh, now from
ever from this point on, I'm

556
00:29:48,699 --> 00:29:52,089
gonna have to do it this way
when I perform it live. He was

557
00:29:52,149 --> 00:29:56,589
just tickled pink, so like the
legacy can continue with these

558
00:29:56,679 --> 00:29:59,769
songs. Like Dad starts it, and
then one of us can pick it up.

559
00:30:00,029 --> 00:30:01,379
And carry it forward.

560
00:30:01,619 --> 00:30:05,429
Yeah. Now, see, when you you you
really touched me, Tanya, when

561
00:30:05,519 --> 00:30:11,189
you recently you shared some of
the facts that you and your dad

562
00:30:11,579 --> 00:30:14,909
had between each other while he
was on the road. Oh man,

563
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:15,570
I was crying,

564
00:30:15,810 --> 00:30:18,420
and I and I loved it because it
showed a side of him that I

565
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,230
never got to see.

566
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,430
Yeah, was the dad, the loving
father? A lot of people didn't

567
00:30:22,460 --> 00:30:27,650
get to see, and I feel fortunate
to have those memories.

568
00:30:27,830 --> 00:30:31,160
Yeah. Well, hang on to those.
That's what you. And I got to

569
00:30:31,250 --> 00:30:36,020
tell you guys, all of you kids
have handled his death in a very

570
00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:41,020
classy way because you know you
had been estranged for quite a

571
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:41,380
while,

572
00:30:41,470 --> 00:30:42,490
not by our choice.

573
00:30:42,910 --> 00:30:44,080
No, you, you guys. It was

574
00:30:44,140 --> 00:30:44,770
not our choice.

575
00:30:44,980 --> 00:30:46,930
No, and that, and that's
something I'd like to clear up

576
00:30:47,050 --> 00:30:50,170
too, because he had put out a
note saying everybody abandoned

577
00:30:50,170 --> 00:30:50,290
him.

578
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,190
That wasn't the truth.

579
00:30:51,250 --> 00:30:54,250
And I never. Well, even when I
saw the note, I said I don't buy

580
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,670
this. Yeah, because the kids
have always. I mean, I can tell

581
00:30:58,420 --> 00:31:02,850
from how Tyler included how all
of you guys seem to really look

582
00:31:02,850 --> 00:31:03,810
at a very heartbreaking

583
00:31:03,869 --> 00:31:09,119
situation. We we did and we do,
you know. And I don't think

584
00:31:09,209 --> 00:31:13,679
kids. It's just yeah. It's it's
hard to have. It's hard to not

585
00:31:13,739 --> 00:31:17,339
only have to deal with the
heartbreaking reality, but then

586
00:31:17,399 --> 00:31:21,169
to have so many people believe a
narrative that's not true. That

587
00:31:21,739 --> 00:31:25,489
you know that we, you know,
turned our back on our father or

588
00:31:25,489 --> 00:31:28,459
abandoned our father. We only
wanted for his money. I mean,

589
00:31:28,699 --> 00:31:30,709
the crazy stuff that people have
said online,

590
00:31:30,860 --> 00:31:31,340
and we're like,

591
00:31:31,490 --> 00:31:32,300
it's just, it just

592
00:31:32,659 --> 00:31:33,109
no, yeah.

593
00:31:33,230 --> 00:31:37,670
I mean, one, and it's just you
think, how much can a kid take?

594
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:38,060
Yeah,

595
00:31:38,540 --> 00:31:41,920
exactly. And plus, you got to
keep in mind too, keyboard

596
00:31:41,980 --> 00:31:44,890
warriors. Yeah, they're not the
bravest people in the world.

597
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,410
They'll they'll act real brave
behind a keyboard, but but

598
00:31:47,530 --> 00:31:47,680
there's

599
00:31:47,770 --> 00:31:51,490
people spinning. There's people
spinning the that are creating

600
00:31:51,580 --> 00:31:55,090
the misunderstanding in them,
you know. And and I was I was

601
00:31:55,570 --> 00:31:57,430
yeah much younger when that
stuff started you know

602
00:31:57,610 --> 00:32:02,160
happening, and I never stopped
trying to reach my dad, and you

603
00:32:02,190 --> 00:32:06,060
know, even though he, you know,
yeah, maybe I don't know if he

604
00:32:06,420 --> 00:32:08,880
really. It's it's hard to know
what happened. There's a lot of

605
00:32:08,910 --> 00:32:09,360
confusion,

606
00:32:09,540 --> 00:32:09,960
right? We

607
00:32:10,109 --> 00:32:13,859
actually have text messages that
we've all that people have kept,

608
00:32:14,489 --> 00:32:18,479
where they've continue. It shows
the timestamp of reaching out,

609
00:32:18,599 --> 00:32:21,469
trying to get in touch with him,
trying to get a response, we

610
00:32:21,589 --> 00:32:25,579
never gave up hope that we would
be able to reconnect with him.

611
00:32:26,119 --> 00:32:30,499
You know, that's the part that
also hurts a lot. Is that it was

612
00:32:30,649 --> 00:32:35,629
a we don't even know if Dad got
to see those messages because

613
00:32:35,779 --> 00:32:38,869
somebody could have had his
phone and could have been

614
00:32:39,379 --> 00:32:42,879
controlling the narrative of
what he was allowed to know was

615
00:32:42,999 --> 00:32:46,899
coming in, but we never gave up.
Like, I mean, we were talking

616
00:32:46,899 --> 00:32:48,909
about that last night at dinner,
and people were pulling their

617
00:32:48,969 --> 00:32:51,099
phones out, and they were like,
"I've got this date. What do you

618
00:32:51,189 --> 00:32:53,229
got? You know, so we were trying
to figure out when was the last

619
00:32:53,259 --> 00:32:54,819
time we actually stopped trying.
Even if

620
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,890
you stopped trying, I mean,
never really give up hope,

621
00:32:57,220 --> 00:33:00,070
right? We always thought that
you know, even if you got to a

622
00:33:00,070 --> 00:33:02,730
point where you thought it's
useless to keep trying to keep

623
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,690
sending this into the black
hole, you know, of the abyss of

624
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:12,000
no response and rejection, you
know that feeling of. But I

625
00:33:12,090 --> 00:33:14,700
think that's what when when he
did actually pass, and you know,

626
00:33:14,820 --> 00:33:18,270
it's like okay, you see the
news, it's real, and I just

627
00:33:18,330 --> 00:33:21,260
thought that's why I made a
public post. I just said I I

628
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,990
want to be able to go to his
funeral. You know I want that

629
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,460
closure. I deserve that.

630
00:33:26,329 --> 00:33:31,339
You sure do, man. In the video,
I guess your husband shot it.

631
00:33:31,429 --> 00:33:33,739
Tell him thank you for sharing
that with us because

632
00:33:34,550 --> 00:33:37,040
he was the real MVP that
weekend. That's for sure. Yeah,

633
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:42,670
you know we went. To be honest,
we went the first day because it

634
00:33:42,670 --> 00:33:46,510
was a public viewing. We knew
that we wouldn't be turned away

635
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,170
at a public viewing. Right. So
we went thinking we're only

636
00:33:50,230 --> 00:33:53,620
going to get this two hours, and
we sat in our chairs and we just

637
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,960
sat there and we were like,
we're going to stay here for the

638
00:33:55,990 --> 00:33:58,360
full two hours. We're not
leaving until they kick us out.

639
00:33:58,660 --> 00:33:59,530
Right. And we went

640
00:33:59,679 --> 00:34:02,399
scared. We went scared. We went
not knowing the whole

641
00:34:02,700 --> 00:34:03,000
idea.

642
00:34:03,359 --> 00:34:03,509
Yeah, and

643
00:34:03,989 --> 00:34:07,349
then we sat there for the two
hours. We're walking out, and

644
00:34:07,439 --> 00:34:12,389
somebody comes out from a
another room and says, "You guys

645
00:34:12,479 --> 00:34:15,719
have been invited to come back
to the next thing. So we go

646
00:34:15,869 --> 00:34:19,229
home, we change our clothes, we
touch up our makeup. We're like,

647
00:34:19,289 --> 00:34:21,109
"Okay, we're going to go back
for the next thing. And we went

648
00:34:21,109 --> 00:34:24,559
back to the next thing, not
knowing if we would get to go to

649
00:34:24,589 --> 00:34:28,879
the next thing. So they just
kind of breadcrumb fed us what

650
00:34:28,969 --> 00:34:31,339
we were going to get to be
allowed to do next, and we just

651
00:34:31,399 --> 00:34:35,359
came away. We just, as a group,
we decided every single thing

652
00:34:35,479 --> 00:34:38,389
that they allow us to be at, we
are going to be at, and we're

653
00:34:38,479 --> 00:34:41,589
not leaving until they ask us to
leave. And I'm so

654
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:43,719
proud of Shelly because I mean,
you know, we didn't know if we

655
00:34:43,899 --> 00:34:46,209
would get an opportunity. You
know, at some funerals, there's

656
00:34:46,269 --> 00:34:48,489
a moment where people come up
and share a story or speak. We

657
00:34:48,489 --> 00:34:50,259
didn't know if anything like
that was going to happen, and

658
00:34:50,259 --> 00:34:52,719
they did open the floor for that
to happen. And Shelly on the

659
00:34:52,899 --> 00:34:55,629
spot because we didn't know. I
mean, I find

660
00:34:55,630 --> 00:34:57,190
that hard to believe. Come on,
now

661
00:34:58,030 --> 00:35:00,540
we were all sitting at the table
in the back. We. Just finished

662
00:35:00,660 --> 00:35:03,030
eating, and everyone was like,
"So, what are we going to do?

663
00:35:03,150 --> 00:35:05,760
Are we going to go up as a
collective unit and tell one

664
00:35:05,820 --> 00:35:09,060
story, or are we all going to
get up as individual children

665
00:35:09,180 --> 00:35:12,840
and tell our narrative? And some
of us were more comfortable

666
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,260
talking, and some of us were
afraid that they might not be

667
00:35:16,470 --> 00:35:19,950
able to talk because the
emotions would take over. And I

668
00:35:20,100 --> 00:35:23,090
just said, I'll do it. What do
y'all want me to say? I'll do

669
00:35:23,180 --> 00:35:26,720
it. And then I got up there and
said way more than I thought I

670
00:35:26,750 --> 00:35:31,970
was going to say. But luckily,
we have somebody in our life

671
00:35:32,210 --> 00:35:35,300
that recorded it, and I was able
to listen to it back. And I'm

672
00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:38,300
like, okay, I didn't make an ass
out of myself. That's good. I I

673
00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:41,260
covered all the things that I
thought were important to say,

674
00:35:41,980 --> 00:35:44,590
but the main message I wanted to
get to the people who were there

675
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:50,440
that day was that Dad loved his
fans, and he recognized that

676
00:35:50,650 --> 00:35:53,770
that relationship was the whole
reason why he was who he was.

677
00:35:54,220 --> 00:35:57,220
And so I I mainly just stood up
there and said, you know, on

678
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,170
behalf of the children, thank
you, David Allenco fans, for

679
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:06,000
loving our dad and not being you
know allowing him to freely

680
00:36:06,060 --> 00:36:08,730
express himself in all the
different ways in which he did,

681
00:36:10,350 --> 00:36:13,230
and that just we just really
appreciated the fact that they

682
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,670
loved on him and embraced him
and they didn't you know he was

683
00:36:17,700 --> 00:36:19,980
allowed to be himself through it
all. He

684
00:36:19,980 --> 00:36:24,020
needed that you know he needed
he needed a lot of healing in

685
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,280
his life. Well, he came

686
00:36:25,430 --> 00:36:26,780
up. I mean, he had a hard.

687
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,780
I mean, he had about as abusive
and traumatic of a childhood as

688
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,160
someone can have. Oh, he did.
Yeah,

689
00:36:31,460 --> 00:36:36,260
he really did. And I got to tell
you, when I met him, I met him

690
00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:42,220
in 1982, and because I was on
the radio in Nashville, and at

691
00:36:42,250 --> 00:36:46,000
the time he wasn't getting a lot
of airplay on country stations,

692
00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:50,500
especially in in town. And I was
playing his stuff all the time.

693
00:36:50,980 --> 00:36:52,390
In fact, they let me remember

694
00:36:52,540 --> 00:36:54,790
what songs at that time were
out.

695
00:36:55,090 --> 00:36:59,320
I remember clearly there was. In
fact, I played album stuff.

696
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,640
Yeah, I played the hosted up.
Share, share, share. What did

697
00:37:02,700 --> 00:37:06,030
you do? I played Lost by on off
Compass Point.

698
00:37:06,060 --> 00:37:07,560
Okay, that's a great album.

699
00:37:07,710 --> 00:37:12,180
Yeah, it was. I also played. I
think I snuck in Sudden Death

700
00:37:12,390 --> 00:37:15,420
off Spectrum Seven. Really, on
Country Was that a three

701
00:37:15,630 --> 00:37:16,320
a.m. thing or what?

702
00:37:16,500 --> 00:37:20,070
Oh yeah, yeah. I actually, but
it was really funny when I met

703
00:37:21,420 --> 00:37:24,350
him. I met him at Spence Manor
as he was staying in town. He

704
00:37:24,380 --> 00:37:28,970
was recording, and a songwriter
introduced us. And I could tell

705
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,700
he really at first didn't want
me hanging around. You know,

706
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:32,150
he's dad

707
00:37:32,210 --> 00:37:32,450
didn't.

708
00:37:32,690 --> 00:37:34,820
No, he because he didn't know
who I was. He didn't know

709
00:37:34,850 --> 00:37:38,090
anything, and I I looked kind of
rough back in those days because

710
00:37:38,180 --> 00:37:38,360
I was

711
00:37:38,930 --> 00:37:41,530
well. You look rough now. Yeah,
I do. What's different? Yeah,

712
00:37:41,830 --> 00:37:42,700
well, actually, this is

713
00:37:42,790 --> 00:37:47,080
cleaner than what I used to do.
Wow! Okay, but anyway, once I

714
00:37:47,140 --> 00:37:50,050
was introduced to him, he
brightened up. He said, "Oh, he

715
00:37:50,140 --> 00:37:52,270
said, "Buzz Rabin was telling me
about you. He said, "You're

716
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:56,560
playing my effing music, and I
said, "Yes, I am. And so he

717
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:01,440
said, "You know, come on up, and
we hung out and heard some new

718
00:38:01,650 --> 00:38:04,770
songs. I think he sang "Whiskey,
Whiskey, Take My Mind" before it

719
00:38:04,770 --> 00:38:09,930
came out. Nice. And I was just I
was in heaven, man. And and he

720
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,780
even treated us to a steak
dinner that night. Oh, nice.

721
00:38:12,990 --> 00:38:16,050
Yeah. That's awesome. And then
he gave Zach Van Arsdale 500

722
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:16,740
bucks.

723
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,260
See, these are the stories, man.
I'm doing worse than he

724
00:38:19,860 --> 00:38:21,980
is. These are the stories that
make my

725
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:22,550
heart happy.

726
00:38:22,790 --> 00:38:25,610
But yeah, your dad wanted to
help Zach out because Zach had

727
00:38:25,700 --> 00:38:30,200
some songs for him, and he said,
"Zach, those songs just-they're

728
00:38:30,260 --> 00:38:34,490
not me. But he said, "I'll give
you $500 to help you. And I

729
00:38:34,580 --> 00:38:36,440
thought, "Man, what a great guy!
That's

730
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:36,800
awesome.

731
00:38:36,980 --> 00:38:37,040
Yeah,

732
00:38:37,700 --> 00:38:38,300
that's awesome. So I

733
00:38:38,420 --> 00:38:40,900
saw a side of him that many
didn't.

734
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:45,220
Yeah, you know, I started radio
1978 in high school. You're not

735
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:45,610
old enough.

736
00:38:45,910 --> 00:38:49,600
Yeah, I am, and playing and
playing a lot of the of his.

737
00:38:49,750 --> 00:38:52,600
They were singles, but you know
the divers do it deeper. Well, I

738
00:38:52,690 --> 00:38:55,570
got in trouble for that one. I
know you did, Jack Daniels, if

739
00:38:55,660 --> 00:38:58,120
you please. I mean, you know,
some of the stuff that you know

740
00:38:58,270 --> 00:39:01,200
weren't colossal hits for him at
the time,

741
00:39:01,349 --> 00:39:01,709
right?

742
00:39:01,860 --> 00:39:06,300
But I just thought he had such a
cool, unique perspective on on

743
00:39:07,020 --> 00:39:10,770
in his songs, and just a kind of
a twisted eye that I liked. Oh,

744
00:39:10,950 --> 00:39:15,090
me too. Now, Shelly, I'm sure
you were around, you know, to

745
00:39:15,420 --> 00:39:20,750
witness the before and the after
of the ride for your dad in his

746
00:39:20,930 --> 00:39:25,010
career, I mean, what what was
that like to see things just

747
00:39:25,070 --> 00:39:28,820
kind of explode? And that you
know, with Mona Lisa lost her

748
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,050
smile and and those other big
hits. I mean, what what was it

749
00:39:33,140 --> 00:39:37,760
like being out on the road and
witnessing just his career

750
00:39:37,850 --> 00:39:38,330
explode?

751
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:44,620
Yeah, so I went on the road with
Dad in 1991, 90, and so I had

752
00:39:44,650 --> 00:39:47,440
graduated high school. I had
written him a letter telling

753
00:39:47,500 --> 00:39:50,530
him, you know, who I was, and I
wanted to reconnect with him.

754
00:39:50,590 --> 00:39:53,140
And so I got to go on the road
with him. Jody was pregnant with

755
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,230
Carson. You kids were on the
road. Carla, my older sister,

756
00:39:56,290 --> 00:39:59,890
was on the road. Deborah Ann, my
older older sister, would come

757
00:39:59,890 --> 00:40:03,360
in. Meet, but it was crazy
because the first show we did

758
00:40:03,420 --> 00:40:07,410
was in Austin at a at a very
well known club that is now

759
00:40:08,010 --> 00:40:11,400
escaping my brain, and he had
all of us with our microphones

760
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,980
just at the end of the stage,
just in a straight line, like

761
00:40:14,190 --> 00:40:17,670
like the Opry, and I just
remember looking out over the

762
00:40:17,820 --> 00:40:20,420
and not being able to see the
end because all it's standing

763
00:40:20,450 --> 00:40:22,850
room only, and I can't see the
end, so I don't know where it

764
00:40:23,210 --> 00:40:26,330
ends. Right. And the first three
rows were all the people I went

765
00:40:26,330 --> 00:40:28,670
to high school with, or all the
people I went to school with.

766
00:40:28,820 --> 00:40:31,430
Right. That like probably didn't
believe that I was really his

767
00:40:32,060 --> 00:40:34,580
daughter because he never showed
himself when I was growing up.

768
00:40:35,060 --> 00:40:38,210
So it was just surreal. And then
to have them sing the songs

769
00:40:38,330 --> 00:40:42,280
back, like you know that I just
had goosebumps. I got off the

770
00:40:42,370 --> 00:40:45,160
stage that day and I looked at
him and said, "Yeah, I think I

771
00:40:45,190 --> 00:40:47,170
want to do this now. Because
originally I was going to be an

772
00:40:47,290 --> 00:40:49,150
actress. I was going to go to
New York. I was going to try to

773
00:40:49,210 --> 00:40:52,240
do the whole Broadway thing, and
I had my plan. And he was like,

774
00:40:52,300 --> 00:40:54,040
"Just come on the road with me
for two weeks. And if you

775
00:40:54,100 --> 00:40:56,920
absolutely love it, then you're
with me. And if you don't love

776
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,630
it, then you go on with your
plan. And that first show, I got

777
00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:04,830
that that high of performing in
front of a live audience and

778
00:41:04,830 --> 00:41:08,460
that energy that happens, and I
was just like, "Oh, I think I've

779
00:41:08,550 --> 00:41:13,350
changed my mind. So yeah, I
mean, it's surreal to to watch

780
00:41:13,590 --> 00:41:21,170
people treat them with so much
admiration, and they're

781
00:41:21,290 --> 00:41:24,440
starstruck, and you're you're
proud, but at the same time,

782
00:41:24,500 --> 00:41:27,170
it's kind of a a little bit of
an out of body experience. It's

783
00:41:27,170 --> 00:41:29,810
like, am I really witnessing
this? You know, these people

784
00:41:29,900 --> 00:41:33,590
that are that are fanning all
over dad because he's my dad.

785
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:38,720
It's a different perspective,
right? So I wasn't with him

786
00:41:39,350 --> 00:41:43,930
probably when the radio stuff
started happening. He was with

787
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,440
Jody at that time, so I got to
listen to his songs on the

788
00:41:47,530 --> 00:41:51,220
radio. But it it was definitely
at a distance. Yeah, you

789
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,670
probably do. You have any
memories of being on the road

790
00:41:54,700 --> 00:41:58,900
when there were two semis and a
limo, and you know, like there

791
00:41:58,930 --> 00:42:01,740
was like eight vehicles on a
carnival. I mean, it was like a

792
00:42:01,860 --> 00:42:03,870
carnival showed up in Government
Town. I mean, I've seen the

793
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,810
pictures, and I'm just like,
this looks insane. Do you

794
00:42:06,900 --> 00:42:08,040
remember? Do you have memory of
that?

795
00:42:08,190 --> 00:42:10,080
Was Dad broke again at some
point? Because I remember

796
00:42:10,170 --> 00:42:13,530
traveling in like a van as a
very young child, and that was

797
00:42:13,590 --> 00:42:18,180
rough. But then we did
eventually get to a bus again.

798
00:42:18,510 --> 00:42:19,320
Well, he went broke

799
00:42:19,410 --> 00:42:21,740
from having all that carnival
stuff, because I always

800
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,530
wondered, because I thought, you
know, he's not getting a lot of

801
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,890
play on the radio, but man, this
guy-I mean, you know, other

802
00:42:28,010 --> 00:42:30,350
country acts would show up;
they'd have maybe a bus or two.

803
00:42:31,220 --> 00:42:35,420
This dude comes; he's got three
busses, semi trucks everywhere.

804
00:42:35,690 --> 00:42:37,190
There's like, or the

805
00:42:37,310 --> 00:42:39,860
Rolling Stones in town. Yeah, I
mean, that's kind of the way it

806
00:42:39,950 --> 00:42:40,040
was.

807
00:42:40,580 --> 00:42:43,330
And but you know it was smart of
him because it was almost like a

808
00:42:43,390 --> 00:42:46,360
PT Barnum, you know something
big's coming to

809
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:46,690
town.

810
00:42:47,290 --> 00:42:49,360
Yeah, there there was a short
period of time where there was a

811
00:42:49,450 --> 00:42:52,030
van, then there I think there
was an RV, and then ultimately I

812
00:42:52,090 --> 00:42:55,360
think yeah there was a bus and a
band bus. Yeah, you know that

813
00:42:55,420 --> 00:42:57,520
kind of seemed to be and that
was my era.

814
00:42:57,699 --> 00:43:02,699
Mine was a bus, a van, and then
like a it almost looks like a

815
00:43:02,969 --> 00:43:05,999
U-Haul moving truck, but you
know so to to haul the equipment

816
00:43:06,059 --> 00:43:09,779
in. Yeah, that was my era as
well. Yeah, he ripped out the

817
00:43:09,899 --> 00:43:12,599
middle part of the bus to make
bunk beds so that me and Carla

818
00:43:12,959 --> 00:43:16,319
could be with you guys, and then
he ripped out one of the chairs

819
00:43:16,379 --> 00:43:19,409
in the front so that he could
have a crib for Carson. Yeah, he

820
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,730
really did love having his
family and us children on the

821
00:43:22,790 --> 00:43:23,660
road with him. Wow,

822
00:43:24,020 --> 00:43:24,860
that has to be nice.

823
00:43:25,340 --> 00:43:25,400
Yeah,

824
00:43:25,789 --> 00:43:29,299
really. In fact, I loved a
picture I saw of him. I think

825
00:43:29,329 --> 00:43:33,619
he's riding a bicycle, and I
think your sister Cheyenne's in

826
00:43:33,739 --> 00:43:35,509
the picture, and Carson's in
there too.

827
00:43:35,750 --> 00:43:39,230
Yeah, that was backstage at a
show, and and yeah, I mean, once

828
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,460
my parents divorced, most of the
time we got to spend with Dad

829
00:43:42,550 --> 00:43:44,800
was just we would go visit him
at shows and try to get in a

830
00:43:44,830 --> 00:43:47,770
little time before the show,
maybe after the show, and you

831
00:43:47,770 --> 00:43:50,560
know it was more limited. But
yeah, that was a a moment when

832
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,020
we went to go visit and he had a
bike and yeah he was on the

833
00:43:53,110 --> 00:43:55,150
water and there's a big parking
lot and yeah.

834
00:43:55,750 --> 00:43:58,990
But your mother needs to get
some recognition here, Jody,

835
00:43:59,650 --> 00:44:03,480
because she did everything while
she was with me. She ran the fan

836
00:44:03,720 --> 00:44:06,630
club. She she wanted she wanted
to keep it going.

837
00:44:07,110 --> 00:44:09,270
We keep making jokes that we're
going to get her back on it.

838
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,680
Well, see, that's why you guys
need to go out on the road play,

839
00:44:14,220 --> 00:44:15,750
and you can have her out there.
Yeah, I

840
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,800
mean, I think I think everyone
can agree. My mom's awesome.

841
00:44:19,980 --> 00:44:22,130
She's the best. She's the
greatest. She's the whole reason

842
00:44:22,250 --> 00:44:22,340
that

843
00:44:22,460 --> 00:44:25,790
I got to be with Dad. I mean, I
I give her full credit because

844
00:44:25,910 --> 00:44:30,170
she was she had you young kids.
It was definitely all about

845
00:44:30,290 --> 00:44:34,640
family, and so when I sent my
letter, it was during the time

846
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,160
when Jody and him were married,
and it was all about family, and

847
00:44:37,220 --> 00:44:41,620
so I was I was welcomed with
open arms and a full heart, and

848
00:44:41,830 --> 00:44:45,670
and I didn't have to prove
myself, and I never felt like I

849
00:44:45,700 --> 00:44:49,540
I was the odd man out. I mean, I
was welcomed as if I had always

850
00:44:49,660 --> 00:44:53,260
been there. Yeah, and I I
totally every time I get a

851
00:44:53,350 --> 00:44:57,370
chance to speak well, it's like
I give Jody all the credit, you

852
00:44:57,430 --> 00:44:59,950
know, because I don't think if
he was married to her, I don't.

853
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,550
Think I would have had that. I
wouldn't have had a different

854
00:45:02,610 --> 00:45:04,140
experience if one at all.

855
00:45:04,590 --> 00:45:05,610
Right. Okay. Thinking

856
00:45:05,729 --> 00:45:10,439
this like, you know, after my
dad passing, my mom has opened

857
00:45:10,499 --> 00:45:14,489
her home to, you know, all of my
half siblings. She's there for

858
00:45:14,489 --> 00:45:18,359
the fans, and now our new half
sibling. Yes. Who most women

859
00:45:18,509 --> 00:45:23,119
would not be able to digest this
or handle this, but basically,

860
00:45:23,479 --> 00:45:26,899
my dad got another woman
pregnant while my mom was

861
00:45:26,989 --> 00:45:27,469
pregnant with me.

862
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:28,100
Yeah,

863
00:45:28,309 --> 00:45:33,169
and now we have Josh. Now we're
now we have Josh in our life at

864
00:45:33,229 --> 00:45:36,529
this age and stage in life, and
you know, my mom has welcomed

865
00:45:36,739 --> 00:45:41,919
him and his family. You know,
and so he's awesome. Him and his

866
00:45:42,069 --> 00:45:42,639
wife and their

867
00:45:42,819 --> 00:45:45,669
children are just wonderful, and
we've spent we spent time with

868
00:45:45,699 --> 00:45:47,859
them at the funeral. Yeah, we're
spending time with them for

869
00:45:47,889 --> 00:45:51,189
Fourth of July. In September,
we're going to be spending time

870
00:45:51,279 --> 00:45:56,139
with them again, maybe even for
New Year's. I mean, it's crazy

871
00:45:56,199 --> 00:45:58,269
because it's almost like he's
always been a part of the

872
00:45:58,299 --> 00:46:01,079
family. She's giving him a hard
time. He's giving her a hard

873
00:46:01,199 --> 00:46:01,499
time.

874
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:03,840
He fits in. He

875
00:46:03,990 --> 00:46:07,290
fits in. He just fits right in,
and and that's how hilarious and

876
00:46:07,380 --> 00:46:11,850
Jack is. Yeah, Jody is like, oh,
you you are related to my

877
00:46:12,030 --> 00:46:14,400
children, and so therefore
you're related to me, and and

878
00:46:14,460 --> 00:46:18,840
welcome to my home. And it's
awesome. Yeah, and that's and

879
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,770
and she should be really good.
She's gorgeous. Yeah, she is

880
00:46:22,010 --> 00:46:24,410
absolutely stunning. She's a
stunning woman, but she's

881
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,750
actually beautiful on the inside
too. And she comes

882
00:46:26,810 --> 00:46:30,260
from a good family. I have, I
have a great family, extended

883
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:34,370
family in Michigan, great aunts,
uncles, a slew of cousins, and

884
00:46:34,580 --> 00:46:35,420
you know, that's.

885
00:46:35,839 --> 00:46:40,189
So you had asked how it was to
be raised with a famous father,

886
00:46:40,279 --> 00:46:43,479
and I guess I would say we had
the most normal life you could

887
00:46:43,539 --> 00:46:46,569
possibly have, but it's probably
thanks to our mothers. My mother

888
00:46:46,659 --> 00:46:49,659
made sure I had a pretty normal
upbringing, and I think Jody did

889
00:46:49,749 --> 00:46:52,449
the same for you kids. I mean,
when you guys were on the road,

890
00:46:52,509 --> 00:46:54,939
she still tried to make it fun.
She still tried to make it as

891
00:46:55,089 --> 00:46:58,779
normal as possible. You know,
there wasn't any peacocking or

892
00:46:58,869 --> 00:47:01,829
showboating. Yeah, when she was
on stage with Dad, she had the

893
00:47:01,919 --> 00:47:04,139
keyboard and she played her
parts and she sang her songs.

894
00:47:04,229 --> 00:47:07,859
But again, she's not, she's not
trying to steal the spotlight

895
00:47:07,919 --> 00:47:09,449
from him. This is she didn't

896
00:47:09,569 --> 00:47:12,569
want to do it. She didn't want
to do it. I know Dad wanted her

897
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:13,199
to, but

898
00:47:13,319 --> 00:47:13,379
yeah,

899
00:47:13,709 --> 00:47:16,259
he seemed to do that a lot
because I remember your brother.

900
00:47:17,009 --> 00:47:20,249
You know, he told him that the
story I heard that he told him,

901
00:47:20,519 --> 00:47:22,669
he he said, "Have you been
practicing your guitar? I

902
00:47:22,759 --> 00:47:25,849
heard you. Yeah, I mean, I think
that was just dad. He, I think

903
00:47:26,029 --> 00:47:28,189
dad wanted to put on a show. I
think that he thought that

904
00:47:28,399 --> 00:47:31,219
family brought an element to the
show, especially during that

905
00:47:31,399 --> 00:47:35,929
phase in his life when he was
trying to, you know, make it as

906
00:47:36,169 --> 00:47:40,689
a a country family artist type
man. I think that I think that

907
00:47:40,749 --> 00:47:43,719
we, you know, he felt like it
worked for his image. I think it

908
00:47:43,780 --> 00:47:44,080
did.

909
00:47:44,740 --> 00:47:44,950
Yeah, I

910
00:47:45,010 --> 00:47:47,740
think it did because I saw a big
change in people that didn't.

911
00:47:47,980 --> 00:47:48,880
Yeah, care

912
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,100
for his older image, and when
you know, and he

913
00:47:51,220 --> 00:47:54,550
had us, he had us. I mean, he
had me on stage and on talk to

914
00:47:54,550 --> 00:47:57,040
you as a little baby, you know,
and just you know, it's like

915
00:47:57,100 --> 00:47:58,270
anything. And we

916
00:47:58,390 --> 00:48:00,960
would do live shows, and they
would bring they would bring the

917
00:48:01,050 --> 00:48:05,250
kids out. Yeah, you know, he.
You had to be comfortable with

918
00:48:05,340 --> 00:48:06,210
being in the spotlight.

919
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:06,540
Yeah,

920
00:48:06,930 --> 00:48:09,480
because you were going to be in
the spotlight. Right. Yeah. You

921
00:48:09,510 --> 00:48:09,720
know, we

922
00:48:09,810 --> 00:48:10,590
didn't have a choice.

923
00:48:11,339 --> 00:48:13,139
But it wasn't like you were like
kicking and screaming

924
00:48:13,259 --> 00:48:15,389
begrudgingly going. You were
like, I mean, okay, cool. Where

925
00:48:15,419 --> 00:48:16,589
do I look? It's just what we
did.

926
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:17,370
You know. Yeah.

927
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:18,600
Yeah. It's second nature.

928
00:48:19,230 --> 00:48:22,400
Well, I got to ask you, Tanya,
what got you into creating

929
00:48:22,460 --> 00:48:24,170
Goodbye Girls? Your your yeah.

930
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:29,690
So I kind of revealed a little
bit earlier. You know, I met my

931
00:48:29,750 --> 00:48:33,380
friend Kim in college. We were
in economics class. I was at

932
00:48:33,410 --> 00:48:40,430
MTSU at that time, and we were.
She was dating a guy who was in

933
00:48:40,460 --> 00:48:43,780
a band. She ended up. I ended up
going to a show, or not even a

934
00:48:43,780 --> 00:48:47,050
show. I ended up meeting up with
her and one of the guys that was

935
00:48:47,740 --> 00:48:52,240
in the band. His name was
Dwayne. We met that night. I

936
00:48:52,270 --> 00:48:54,220
think we ended up being together
for about three years after

937
00:48:54,280 --> 00:49:02,610
that. And yeah, he. We were just
one thing I did while I was in

938
00:49:02,850 --> 00:49:08,250
college to help supplement
income, and my mom had, she used

939
00:49:08,250 --> 00:49:10,620
to take us thrifting, take us to
Goodwills and stuff like that.

940
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,880
And my mom is a she's a
professional seamstress, and so

941
00:49:15,030 --> 00:49:17,880
she just taught me a lot about
fabrics and well-made clothes

942
00:49:17,940 --> 00:49:21,080
and quality things to look for.
And so I kind of created this

943
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,800
eye, and I would resell things
on. I would go thrift and resell

944
00:49:24,860 --> 00:49:27,290
things on eBay, and that was a
way that I waited tables too.

945
00:49:27,530 --> 00:49:30,410
But I that was another way that
I supported myself through

946
00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:34,790
college was just reselling. And
my friend Kim turned out we had

947
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,550
the same passion for that. So
then when we were dating guys in

948
00:49:37,550 --> 00:49:39,920
the same band and both living in
Nashville, and we were going to

949
00:49:39,950 --> 00:49:42,760
their shows, and we would just
go third, and we had accumulated

950
00:49:42,820 --> 00:49:47,500
all this cool kind of stage wear
type stuff, and we would just

951
00:49:47,500 --> 00:49:50,140
dress our friends and for photo
shoots and whatever and cool

952
00:49:50,230 --> 00:49:54,640
stuff. And basically, my friend
Kim she found a commercial space

953
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,980
that was so tiny, it's about the
size of a closet, but it was

954
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,680
only $300 a month. So if we
split it, it was going to be

955
00:49:59,860 --> 00:50:04,860
one. 50 a month, and we got it.
And we were only open on

956
00:50:04,980 --> 00:50:07,740
Saturdays in the beginning. And
so again, kind of like the music

957
00:50:07,770 --> 00:50:09,840
thing, it was just something
that everything in my life is

958
00:50:09,870 --> 00:50:12,810
just something that organically,
naturally happened. And I was

959
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,180
still working two other
part-time jobs when I opened my

960
00:50:15,330 --> 00:50:18,570
shop, and we were. But yeah,
then we just one thing led to

961
00:50:18,630 --> 00:50:20,990
another. And then actually,
after about four years, she she

962
00:50:22,850 --> 00:50:27,140
got a dream job and moved to
California, and she you know was

963
00:50:28,010 --> 00:50:30,380
generous and gracious enough to
let me keep going with the shop,

964
00:50:30,500 --> 00:50:33,710
and so then I became the sole
owner, and so I've just had it

965
00:50:33,710 --> 00:50:37,220
ever since. And yeah, how many
years now? I think 16 and a half

966
00:50:37,340 --> 00:50:39,830
years. I started it when I was
23 and it's that's

967
00:50:40,100 --> 00:50:44,680
that's amazing. I mean that you
know in this day and time to be

968
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:49,870
able to last in retail 16 years.
That's my volume. COVID. Yeah,

969
00:50:50,140 --> 00:50:50,200
I've

970
00:50:50,319 --> 00:50:54,279
kept my overhead low. Lana Del
Rey helped me out in COVID. I

971
00:50:54,339 --> 00:50:58,149
will say that she she I reached
out to her and she made a post

972
00:50:58,179 --> 00:51:00,899
for me that sent me a lot of
customers and a lot of online

973
00:51:00,989 --> 00:51:07,499
orders, Lana. But yeah, I've.
It's like any small business,

974
00:51:07,679 --> 00:51:10,589
and it's and we're currently in
in an economy that's hard on

975
00:51:10,649 --> 00:51:13,409
small businesses, and you'll
hear that a lot. And and and I'm

976
00:51:13,439 --> 00:51:15,599
no different. My shop's no
different, but I keep my

977
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,509
overhead low, and I've kind of
learned how to how to go with

978
00:51:18,509 --> 00:51:20,209
the flow. And she has a lot of

979
00:51:20,269 --> 00:51:25,099
stuff in her space, though she's
she's utilized the the room very

980
00:51:25,189 --> 00:51:28,999
well. So it's not just like one
single rack all the way around

981
00:51:29,059 --> 00:51:31,279
the room. She's got stuff on the
wall. I mean, you know, if it's

982
00:51:31,309 --> 00:51:35,389
not nailed down, it's for sale.
And there's a lot. And there's a

983
00:51:36,169 --> 00:51:41,529
there's a boho vibe. There's a
country vibe. She's got everyday

984
00:51:41,949 --> 00:51:45,489
retail fashion, but then she's
also got vintage like cowboy

985
00:51:45,699 --> 00:51:50,229
boots and really cool, you know,
like star-studded jackets, and

986
00:51:50,229 --> 00:51:54,639
you know, like Lady Gaga's
fashion person took one of

987
00:51:54,819 --> 00:51:59,079
Jody's outfits and bought it,
and then did this big public

988
00:51:59,619 --> 00:52:02,339
thing, and so Tanya got to do
this side by side of like here's

989
00:52:02,399 --> 00:52:05,759
my mom in this outfit and oh
here's Lady Gaga, I mean like

990
00:52:05,849 --> 00:52:08,759
you've had some really cool
things happen with your store

991
00:52:09,329 --> 00:52:09,869
and I always

992
00:52:09,930 --> 00:52:12,570
say it's the little shop that
could. It is the little shop

993
00:52:12,660 --> 00:52:15,900
that could and it just keeps
giving it just giving yeah and

994
00:52:16,140 --> 00:52:16,440
goodbye

995
00:52:16,620 --> 00:52:19,020
be by and yeah so the the

996
00:52:20,130 --> 00:52:24,290
band that the guys had their
most popular song, the one that

997
00:52:24,410 --> 00:52:27,170
seemed everyone liked, was
called Goodbye Girls B Y E.

998
00:52:27,470 --> 00:52:29,870
Yeah. So when we started this
shop, and and we were always

999
00:52:29,870 --> 00:52:31,820
saying, look at this goodbye.
You know, that was something we

1000
00:52:31,820 --> 00:52:33,950
were always saying. So then we
just said Goodbye Girls, and

1001
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:34,490
yeah. See,

1002
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:38,240
I think that's a great name. I
just love. And do you have a

1003
00:52:38,330 --> 00:52:39,350
website for? Yeah, we

1004
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,990
have a website. Goodbye, girls.
Oh, goodbye girlsnashville.com

1005
00:52:42,770 --> 00:52:47,140
and. and yeah, we're in the Five
Points Alley shops. Where it's

1006
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,600
you know we I'm like people are
gonna look it up. I don't have

1007
00:52:49,630 --> 00:52:51,970
any set hours. We're kind of in
this like weird phase where I'm

1008
00:52:52,030 --> 00:52:54,820
like it's just kind of like
yeah, I've had the shop for a

1009
00:52:54,850 --> 00:52:58,810
long time, and it's a little
more like we're just there when

1010
00:52:58,810 --> 00:53:01,290
we can be there, which is pretty
much every day. But I just I

1011
00:53:01,410 --> 00:53:04,260
can't do the Google thing
anymore. I did that for 16

1012
00:53:04,350 --> 00:53:09,330
years, and I'm I'm momentarily
just kind of needing to be able

1013
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,670
to be more flexible. But if you
need to see

1014
00:53:11,940 --> 00:53:14,850
her, she'll open the the shop
and she'll let you in. Yes, like

1015
00:53:14,910 --> 00:53:17,640
if you if you see something
online and you're like, hey, I

1016
00:53:17,820 --> 00:53:19,920
wanna I wanna try that on in
person. Yeah, I mean she's

1017
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:20,750
flexible. Like, and

1018
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,750
I-I mean, I've had people that
have shop have, you know, I

1019
00:53:23,810 --> 00:53:26,900
think that's the thing is like
the shop became, it's like a

1020
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,480
little community in itself, and
I've just met so many people,

1021
00:53:29,630 --> 00:53:33,410
made so many connections, and
just really have a love and care

1022
00:53:33,530 --> 00:53:36,020
for my customers and everyone
that walks through my door. So

1023
00:53:36,500 --> 00:53:37,850
it's been a cool way to connect
with people.

1024
00:53:38,150 --> 00:53:40,450
See, I never have really
understood these Nashville

1025
00:53:40,570 --> 00:53:44,200
thing, but I'm getting to where
I really understand it more now.

1026
00:53:44,710 --> 00:53:46,210
It's a really cool little area.
It

1027
00:53:46,419 --> 00:53:47,649
is, yeah, it is

1028
00:53:48,130 --> 00:53:51,550
very cool. And that also, I got
to clear up something here too

1029
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:56,530
that a lot of people think just
because it's Tanya Montana music

1030
00:53:57,220 --> 00:54:01,200
that this this book that's been
re-released, this is David Allen

1031
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,870
Coe that you're doing it, but
it's not you.

1032
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:08,550
Yeah, no, it's not. I mean, I
have helped with getting it back

1033
00:54:08,730 --> 00:54:11,640
in print and getting it on
Amazon. My husband and his

1034
00:54:11,700 --> 00:54:14,310
brother actually helped as well,
and it's been all of us have

1035
00:54:14,340 --> 00:54:19,050
been you know in talks about it,
and but no, I did not. You know,

1036
00:54:19,110 --> 00:54:22,130
it's a book that's written by my
dad. It does feature a lot of my

1037
00:54:22,940 --> 00:54:25,460
newsletters that my mom wrote
when she was part of the fan

1038
00:54:25,550 --> 00:54:29,630
club. But yeah, basically, I
just helped get it back in print

1039
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:35,240
because it seemed like after
dad's passing, that book was a

1040
00:54:35,300 --> 00:54:38,420
little bit of a harder one to
get a hold of, and it was just

1041
00:54:38,420 --> 00:54:40,690
starting to go. You know, on
eBay, it was. I mean? Some were

1042
00:54:40,780 --> 00:54:45,610
listed for $2,000 Some were
listed for 400 300 500 and so I

1043
00:54:45,700 --> 00:54:49,300
just thought, you know, when my
husband's brother had had a

1044
00:54:49,330 --> 00:54:53,140
little experience with getting a
book on Amazon, and so he kind

1045
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:57,490
of knew and understood how to do
that process, and so we scanned

1046
00:54:57,820 --> 00:55:02,520
all 330 something pages and. Got
it uploaded and it's on there

1047
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,880
and yeah, but it is as it is
right now. It's just truly just

1048
00:55:06,060 --> 00:55:10,050
a reprint of Dad's original book
and it's basically like a

1049
00:55:10,140 --> 00:55:12,330
scrapbook. And I remember when
he was working on it, he was

1050
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,230
super proud of it. And it's just
it's a great book for our

1051
00:55:16,350 --> 00:55:19,350
family. I feel like because it's
just such a it just represents

1052
00:55:19,350 --> 00:55:20,630
such a a great time,

1053
00:55:21,140 --> 00:55:25,460
and it's not like he sat in a
room and somebody dictated what

1054
00:55:25,490 --> 00:55:28,940
he had to say. Right, he
physically put the pages

1055
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,030
together, and it's his
handwriting talking about his

1056
00:55:32,150 --> 00:55:36,890
thoughts. And you know, there's
a page. It only goes up until a

1057
00:55:37,010 --> 00:55:39,440
certain moment, right? Because
at some point, you have to print

1058
00:55:39,950 --> 00:55:42,190
it. Right. So I'm sure you know
the story actually does

1059
00:55:42,310 --> 00:55:48,610
continue, but Jody has the
publishing for that book and

1060
00:55:49,060 --> 00:55:52,240
different CDs. Do you happen to
know what the tattoo is? So

1061
00:55:52,450 --> 00:55:52,510
yeah,

1062
00:55:52,660 --> 00:55:55,540
so when my parents were married
and my dad wasn't, he had been I

1063
00:55:55,630 --> 00:55:57,250
guess I don't know if he was
dropped or just wasn't on a

1064
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,630
major label. They basically
started the publishing company

1065
00:56:00,720 --> 00:56:05,640
Tanny Montana Music, named after
me, and in when they were

1066
00:56:05,940 --> 00:56:08,190
getting a divorce, and my
parents had an amicable divorce.

1067
00:56:08,670 --> 00:56:11,970
They decided on all the money
stuff together, and all the you

1068
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:16,830
know all that stuff, and it was
all amicable. And yeah, you know

1069
00:56:17,670 --> 00:56:19,860
the the fan club and Tanny
Montana Music. I mean, my mom

1070
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,360
had put her heart and soul and
hard work into all that stuff,

1071
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:27,260
and my dad let it stay with her
for her and for us kids. And so

1072
00:56:27,380 --> 00:56:31,460
there are four albums. She has
1990 songs for sale.

1073
00:56:31,730 --> 00:56:32,270
Great record.

1074
00:56:32,570 --> 00:56:35,630
She has "Living on the Edge,
"Granny's Offer Rocker, and

1075
00:56:35,690 --> 00:56:37,370
"Standing Too Close to the
Flame. And then

1076
00:56:37,430 --> 00:56:40,810
Granny's Offer Rocker. And I'm
Tyler, and I are on the cover

1077
00:56:40,900 --> 00:56:41,530
of that line,

1078
00:56:41,950 --> 00:56:45,520
standing too close to the flame.
Is Jody reaching for the lamp on

1079
00:56:45,670 --> 00:56:47,140
the fireplace man? Yeah, with an
old

1080
00:56:47,170 --> 00:56:48,610
picture of bold publicity.

1081
00:56:48,610 --> 00:56:50,260
I'm getting chills talking. Back
in Dave Coe,

1082
00:56:50,950 --> 00:56:54,370
and then Dave Coe, and then you
know she, and so then the the

1083
00:56:54,580 --> 00:56:58,210
black book, and then she
actually has the book Psychopath

1084
00:56:58,300 --> 00:56:59,170
as well, and so

1085
00:57:00,279 --> 00:57:02,939
that was his novel, was it not?
Yes, that was yeah.

1086
00:57:02,970 --> 00:57:06,870
Yes, and I haven't actually.
We're I haven't read it. Yeah, I

1087
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,960
haven't read it either. So we're
we need to read it, and we need

1088
00:57:09,990 --> 00:57:12,210
to decide whether or not we're
gonna get that one back out

1089
00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:12,810
there too. See,

1090
00:57:12,900 --> 00:57:15,840
I have all of his books except
for that one, and this is David

1091
00:57:15,900 --> 00:57:18,090
Allen Co. I don't have them. Oh
well, we've

1092
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:22,650
re-released it so that you don't
have to pay $500 or $1,000 to go

1093
00:57:22,830 --> 00:57:25,340
out. welcome. I don't have that.
But you know, a lot of people

1094
00:57:25,430 --> 00:57:31,820
have spun a narrative that Tanya
is getting money for songs that

1095
00:57:31,910 --> 00:57:35,120
were written, or that she's
getting money for books, or that

1096
00:57:35,210 --> 00:57:38,630
she wrote books. And it's like,
no, it's Tanya Montana

1097
00:57:39,110 --> 00:57:41,710
Publishing that's owned by Jody.
I mean, yeah. I mean, it's

1098
00:57:41,770 --> 00:57:44,530
just-it's crazy. Don't get me
wrong. Oh, I've

1099
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:45,190
heard. Yeah.

1100
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:51,790
I think it's sad that us
children don't. You know, I

1101
00:57:51,850 --> 00:57:55,600
think my dad. We. You know. I
had always. I can't imagine that

1102
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,480
my dad wouldn't have wanted to
take care of us kids, right? You

1103
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,760
know, in any way that he could.
But no, I mean, as far as I

1104
00:58:02,850 --> 00:58:07,200
know, none of us kids make.
We're not. We don't. We don't

1105
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,410
make any money from his songs,
from his royalties. His, you

1106
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,500
know, there's no money. I mean,
you know, I've I've worked my

1107
00:58:13,590 --> 00:58:16,470
whole life. You know, I mean, I
worked three jobs while putting

1108
00:58:16,500 --> 00:58:18,990
myself through college, and you
know, I mean, I've worked every

1109
00:58:19,050 --> 00:58:22,340
day. I was babysitting before I
could even legally get a job,

1110
00:58:22,430 --> 00:58:23,360
you know. I mean, I. The

1111
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,960
narrative is that you know we're
silver spoon kids, and that

1112
00:58:27,110 --> 00:58:29,630
we're now reaping the benefits
from Dad's death, and that we're

1113
00:58:29,750 --> 00:58:33,200
getting all of this stuff. We
own no merchandise. All of his

1114
00:58:33,350 --> 00:58:36,890
jackets, any anything that's
David Alinko related belongs to

1115
00:58:36,890 --> 00:58:40,970
the estate. We're not part of
the estate. We've actually been

1116
00:58:41,060 --> 00:58:46,780
boldly claimed to. If you read
the will, we have been excluded

1117
00:58:46,870 --> 00:58:49,540
from everything. I mean, that
was the very first sentence in

1118
00:58:49,570 --> 00:58:52,090
the will that we've been
excluded from everything, and

1119
00:58:52,180 --> 00:58:55,030
that broke our hearts too
because we've been told our

1120
00:58:55,150 --> 00:59:00,390
whole lives that Dad loved us
and that he the family is

1121
00:59:00,450 --> 00:59:03,600
important. Like he actually has
written that in his own words.

1122
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,350
You know, family is everything.
Be good to them, and so that's

1123
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,380
that's been something that we've
had to struggle with is the fact

1124
00:59:10,410 --> 00:59:16,620
that the way things have turned
out has not necessarily been the

1125
00:59:16,830 --> 00:59:21,980
way that Dad may or may not have
wanted it. And but that's okay.

1126
00:59:22,670 --> 00:59:25,550
We are a family, and we love
each other, and we're going to

1127
00:59:25,610 --> 00:59:29,030
keep going down this road
together as a family. But we

1128
00:59:29,540 --> 00:59:33,650
also want to, we want to come
onto the radio and tell you guys

1129
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:38,480
this because so many things are
happening online, and you know,

1130
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:42,850
15 comments later, we're the
devil, and it's like we didn't

1131
00:59:43,090 --> 00:59:46,210
even know. And so, one of the
reasons why we were so thankful

1132
00:59:46,270 --> 00:59:49,660
that you invited us here is so
that we can talk about the

1133
00:59:49,660 --> 00:59:52,360
things that are important to us.
But also, the message to the

1134
00:59:52,420 --> 00:59:55,780
Dave Aldenco fans is that you
know we know how much Dad loved

1135
00:59:56,140 --> 01:00:00,420
them, and we loved him just as
much, if not more. And we're

1136
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,440
devastated that things are
playing out the way they are,

1137
01:00:05,070 --> 01:00:07,680
and we don't know what the
future holds for the name of

1138
01:00:07,740 --> 01:00:10,320
David Allen Coe. We don't know
what his name's going to get put

1139
01:00:10,470 --> 01:00:13,560
on. We don't know what's going
to get released. We have no

1140
01:00:13,710 --> 01:00:17,460
power over anything, and so
that's scary and it's sad.

1141
01:00:17,729 --> 01:00:21,979
Yeah, it is. And but I've got to
tell you guys, I don't know how

1142
01:00:22,009 --> 01:00:25,459
much it means to you, but you
have my admiration. You have for

1143
01:00:25,459 --> 01:00:29,089
a long time. Well, I have. I've
I've really admired how you guys

1144
01:00:29,779 --> 01:00:33,829
have handled your lives, and I
think you've done it with glass.

1145
01:00:34,579 --> 01:00:38,989
I've also defended you guys a
lot. We appreciate that. And in

1146
01:00:39,049 --> 01:00:44,319
fact, one was somebody said that
was quoted that you and you got

1147
01:00:44,979 --> 01:00:48,849
royalties from Stand By Your
Man, and I'm thinking, how could

1148
01:00:48,969 --> 01:00:52,509
you get royalties of Stand By
Your Man? He didn't write that.

1149
01:00:52,749 --> 01:00:53,469
Well, and he

1150
01:00:53,590 --> 01:00:56,890
recorded it in '81. I was born
in '86, way before you were

1151
01:00:56,980 --> 01:01:00,220
born. That was set at the
funeral in front of everyone. I

1152
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:04,350
don't know why. My yeah, I don't
know. Is

1153
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:06,300
this really the first time
you've been able to kind of go

1154
01:01:06,390 --> 01:01:08,550
on record and talk about these
things? Yes,

1155
01:01:08,700 --> 01:01:10,890
I've talked about this. I've
tried to post about things on my

1156
01:01:10,950 --> 01:01:13,590
social media before, but I mean,
yeah, I've never not at

1157
01:01:13,650 --> 01:01:17,010
that nauseum like this. Kind of
going at length. Interesting.

1158
01:01:17,279 --> 01:01:19,589
Well, that's why I wanted to
have you guys on. Thank you. One

1159
01:01:19,919 --> 01:01:22,729
big reason was I just wanted to
talk about your lives because

1160
01:01:22,879 --> 01:01:26,389
I've always, like I said,
admired you, and I admire Tyler.

1161
01:01:26,809 --> 01:01:30,199
I mean, I loved his podcast.
Yeah, you know, cocaine and

1162
01:01:30,319 --> 01:01:32,929
rhinestones. Yeah, what a great
podcast!

1163
01:01:33,170 --> 01:01:35,540
Appreciate that. I think people.
I think there's some people that

1164
01:01:36,290 --> 01:01:40,480
want to erase us and and act as
if we never existed, and so it

1165
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:44,650
means a lot for people to, you
know. Well, that ain't gonna

1166
01:01:44,740 --> 01:01:47,110
happen as long as to show
support. Well, as long as

1167
01:01:47,260 --> 01:01:50,350
Johnny B's around, that's not
gonna happen. So you guys will

1168
01:01:50,410 --> 01:01:54,340
always, and anytime you want to
come back, please do. Well, I'm

1169
01:01:54,370 --> 01:01:56,830
gonna come back because you have
a slip and slide that you guys

1170
01:01:57,340 --> 01:02:00,300
created right outside. Right
off. It is. I don't know if

1171
01:02:00,300 --> 01:02:04,440
that's like a half a mile long
down a hill, but it looks fun.

1172
01:02:04,650 --> 01:02:07,230
You guys should probably have an
ambulance standing by because it

1173
01:02:07,260 --> 01:02:09,840
also looks like you're going to
have some massive traction as

1174
01:02:09,900 --> 01:02:12,360
you're going down. Well, if Jay
and I if

1175
01:02:12,510 --> 01:02:16,110
Jay and I go down, that probably
I go down

1176
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,980
it. It looks like your your
Fourth of July birthday, happy

1177
01:02:20,070 --> 01:02:23,060
birthday by the way, is going to
be incredible. Well,

1178
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:26,210
thank you for that. But once
again, thank you for. And if

1179
01:02:26,300 --> 01:02:29,900
there's, how can people check
you guys out? Is there anything

1180
01:02:29,990 --> 01:02:30,800
you want to promote? I mean,

1181
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,950
truly, I'm not very active with
music. I'm not playing any

1182
01:02:34,130 --> 01:02:37,820
shows. I, but you know, I do.
We've got to change that. Maybe,

1183
01:02:38,060 --> 01:02:41,470
but I do have a band camp that
still has vinyl of my first

1184
01:02:41,500 --> 01:02:44,230
album, Silver Bullet, and then
CDs of my second album Hydro

1185
01:02:44,290 --> 01:02:44,650
Emotion.

1186
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:50,290
And I have a band camp also of
the second album A Girl Like Me.

1187
01:02:50,740 --> 01:02:54,460
And how you can get a hold of
us, I guess, or how you can

1188
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:59,710
continue to follow our story is
that each child has a Facebook

1189
01:02:59,770 --> 01:03:03,930
page. Some of us are more active
than others. Some of us don't

1190
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,420
really want to be in the
spotlight, and so we we have

1191
01:03:06,780 --> 01:03:11,100
massive respect for that. Others
want to figure out a way to

1192
01:03:11,370 --> 01:03:16,140
monetize and and possibly have a
career with that, and so we're

1193
01:03:16,350 --> 01:03:19,260
just cheerleading each other.
Those that want to be visible,

1194
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,970
we're pushing it on our own
website to help push the

1195
01:03:23,090 --> 01:03:26,360
narrative for them, and then
those that want to be quiet and

1196
01:03:26,780 --> 01:03:30,020
and more reserved, then we put
little hearts on their faces

1197
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:33,560
when we post, just out of
respect for them. And I mean,

1198
01:03:33,650 --> 01:03:36,650
it's just really, it's a it's a
fluid thing at this moment.

1199
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:40,090
We're just the main thing is is
that we're all together. We've

1200
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:44,020
got a new brother we didn't have
before, and we are just loving

1201
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:47,500
on each other, and we're helping
each other navigate the loss of

1202
01:03:47,590 --> 01:03:49,870
dad because each one of us is
going to be processing it

1203
01:03:49,900 --> 01:03:52,510
different. Some of you know some
of us process it in different

1204
01:03:52,570 --> 01:03:55,570
times, and just the important
thing is just to be there for

1205
01:03:55,630 --> 01:03:57,970
each other when when when you
fall apart.

1206
01:03:58,750 --> 01:04:01,200
Well, you guys will be in our
thoughts and prayers constantly,

1207
01:04:01,890 --> 01:04:04,500
and absolutely thank you for
what you're doing, and thank

1208
01:04:04,590 --> 01:04:07,830
you, and just well, keep just
just keep showing support

1209
01:04:07,890 --> 01:04:09,810
for us, and we'll keep keep
doing it.

1210
01:04:09,930 --> 01:04:13,170
Well, just just keep that family
unit together. That that is

1211
01:04:13,350 --> 01:04:15,750
important. It's important. It
really is. You guys are doing a

1212
01:04:15,780 --> 01:04:18,420
great job. Thank you. And tell
your mother she's doing a great

1213
01:04:18,780 --> 01:04:18,870
job.

1214
01:04:19,020 --> 01:04:19,260
I will,

1215
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,690
and she has my. I respect her. I
don't know her. I've talked to

1216
01:04:23,750 --> 01:04:27,740
her one time, but what a sweet
woman! And and she has been

1217
01:04:28,010 --> 01:04:28,760
quite a warrior.

1218
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:29,330
Yes.

1219
01:04:29,870 --> 01:04:33,830
So thanks again for coming on
our podcast, Jay. Tell the folks

1220
01:04:34,190 --> 01:04:36,050
how they can check us out, and
please do.

1221
01:04:36,530 --> 01:04:42,220
Yeah, you know our 16,000
followers now can still find us

1222
01:04:42,730 --> 01:04:46,720
on Facebook, of course. You know
the video component is also

1223
01:04:46,810 --> 01:04:49,690
available on our YouTube
channel, but of course all of

1224
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:55,570
the other podcast platforms,
iHeart, Apple Podcasts, TuneIn,

1225
01:04:55,900 --> 01:04:59,950
etc. And of course there's the
merchandise at circling the.

1226
01:05:00,030 --> 01:05:04,350
Drain.net, and look for our
OnlyFans site coming up soon.

1227
01:05:06,150 --> 01:05:07,170
Not really. Anyway,

1228
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:09,570
stay tuned next time for
circling the drain.