In this episode, hosts David Maples and Carla Green dive deep into the concept of "Digital Discipleship." They explore how modern technology, specifically Artificial Intelligence, can be a powerful tool to deepen spiritual growth in a world where traditional methods are facing new challenges.
Carla breaks down the biblical foundation of discipleship as a call to train believers into mature, knowledgeable students of the faith. The conversation then shifts to the modern-day "attention economy" and how digital tools can help the church meet people where they are. David and Carla discuss the crucial difference between using AI to simply get answers and using it to enhance the journey of spiritual maturation—the very process that builds faith.
From brainstorming sermon series and creating small group materials to helping pastors reclaim valuable time for relational ministry, this episode is packed with practical ideas and theological considerations for any church leader looking to navigate the digital frontier.
Topics & Timestamps
- (00:00:05) - Welcome & Introductions: David and Carla kick off the episode.
- (00:01:31) - What is Discipleship? Carla provides a foundational, biblical definition based on the Great Commission (Matthew 28).
- (00:02:18) - The Modern Challenge: Why traditional discipleship models are struggling in a busy world.
- (00:03:41) - A Pastor's Dilemma: The struggle to create effective discipleship programs in large churches.
- (00:04:49) - Defining Digital Discipleship: Using technology as an intentional tool for spiritual maturation.
- (00:05:54) - The Journey is the Goal: David’s analogy of why struggling with a topic (like Shakespeare) builds critical thinking, just as wrestling with faith builds spiritual maturity.
- (00:07:30) - It’s Not Bible Trivia: Discipleship is about a relationship and practical application, not just knowing facts.
- (00:09:05) - Spiritual Intelligence (SI): How a discipled faith provides a real-world advantage.
- (00:12:03) - Jesus's Model of Discipleship: A look at the intentional, relational, and challenging approach Jesus took with His followers.
- (00:14:43) - Current Discipleship Models: What are churches doing now? Breakout groups, small groups, and their limitations.
- (00:15:31) - How AI Can Help: Brainstorming, simplifying complex topics, and providing context for diverse audiences.
- (00:17:10) - AI as a "Clone" for Your Thoughts: Using AI to organize and build upon your own ideas for ministry materials.
- (00:18:28) - A Practical Tool Tip: Why a dedicated recorder is better than a smartphone for capturing ideas without distraction.
- (00:21:20) - The Context Problem: How AI can help bridge the knowledge gap for newcomers in the church.
- (00:24:06) - A Brilliant Idea: Using AI as a "Parable Builder" to translate biblical stories into modern-day contexts.
- (00:24:54) - Case Study: How Carla used AI to create her 52-Week Bible Character Challenge, saving immense amounts of time.
- (00:32:10) - The Attention Economy: Discussing the primary challenge facing all forms of discipleship today—a lack of time and focus.
- (00:35:03) - A Hybrid Solution: How digital tools like Zoom can create flexible discipleship opportunities that fit busy lives.
- (00:39:12) - The Rise of Life Coaches: How the need for guidance and direction is being met outside the church, and how the church can respond.
- (00:40:18) - Practical Steps for Your Church: How to start using AI for discipleship, including setting clear goals and identifying challenges.
- (00:42:36) - An Ethical Warning: The danger of using AI to create a comfortable "spiritual pathway" that lacks challenge.
- (00:46:51) - Found It! "As iron sharpens iron..." (Proverbs 27:17).
- (00:49:40) - The Ultimate ROI: Reinvesting the time saved by AI back into personal relationships and pastoral care.
- (00:50:25) - Episode Wrap-up & Look Ahead: Previewing the next episodes on virtual church experiences and pastoral care.
- (00:51:00) - The "Yes, And" Philosophy: AI is a tool to add to and multiply ministry, not replace it.
What is Ministry Maximizer?
Feeling overwhelmed by the endless demands of ministry? Do administrative tasks, fundraising, and content creation leave you with little time for the relational work you were called to do? Ministry Maximizer is the podcast dedicated to demystifying technology and artificial intelligence for church leaders, pastors, and volunteers, so you can reclaim your time for what truly matters: discipleship and community.
Join hosts Carla Green, a veteran Chief Administrative Pastor who once physically turned her chair away from a presentation on AI, and David Maples, the tech entrepreneur and software developer who changed her mind. Their unique dynamic—the seasoned ministry practitioner and the secular tech expert—provides a balanced, practical, and ethically-grounded perspective on integrating modern tools into the church.