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<v Speaker 1>Well, today we're going to find out that the apostle

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<v Speaker 1>Paul gets the ultimate compliment.

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<v Speaker 2>He gets called a Greek god.

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<v Speaker 3>Paul and Barnabas. I think they must have haunt a

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<v Speaker 3>lot in the gyms. Yes, so that's what we're talking

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<v Speaker 3>about today. He's Chris, I'm Jeff, and we're the Bible guys.

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<v Speaker 1>So Jeff, yes, today we're going to do this thing

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<v Speaker 1>where I don't know if you've ever seen Jimmy Fallon,

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<v Speaker 1>I have the Jimmy Fallon on the Tonight Show does

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<v Speaker 1>this thing where somebody wears headphones and they play loud

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<v Speaker 1>music and then the other person whispers a phrase. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so if the podcast listeners are only listening and not watching,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll be able to hear our responses.

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<v Speaker 2>Those who watch can actually they can.

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<v Speaker 4>See play out.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is very creatively entitled the Whisper Challenge, the

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<v Speaker 3>Whisper Challenge. Okay, And I don't know what it is

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<v Speaker 3>that you're going to say, No, you do not, of course.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Okay, of course, so I have to swap up

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<v Speaker 4>my headphones.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, swapping on his headphones.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna put things on directly connected with Now I

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<v Speaker 1>get these tell me.

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<v Speaker 4>And then you're going to turn on some music or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it?

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<v Speaker 4>Boy?

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<v Speaker 2>It's too loud?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that better?

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<v Speaker 4>You got turned up? But a little more? Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I can't hear anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't hear anything. Okay, here we go.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't hear you.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the phrase.

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<v Speaker 4>Look at you ready?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, leave the gun, take the canoley.

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<v Speaker 4>It looked like you said, leave the gun beside the toilet. Close. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>leave the gun, take the cannoli, leave the gun beside

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<v Speaker 4>the toy.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, leave the gun, take the conoley.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I don't know. It looks like you've changed something

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<v Speaker 4>about a cold steak. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no. It is the famous line from the Godfather.

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<v Speaker 1>Leave the gun, take the canoli.

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<v Speaker 3>Leave the gun. Take from the Godfather. Yes, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I got one for you, so go ahead. Oh yeah, yeah, great, okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's kind of loudly. I couldn't hear. That's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so hard to see what you're saying. Okay, are

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<v Speaker 3>you ready?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, that that is loud.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, okay, the truth. You can't handle the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>What the heck? Do more motion with your lips?

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<v Speaker 4>The truth. You can't handle the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>The truth is astronomical.

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<v Speaker 3>No, try it again. That was your first try. Try again,

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<v Speaker 3>the truth. You can't handle the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't handle the truth.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh there you go, get it? Yeah you got it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's I.

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<v Speaker 4>Said the truth. You can't handle the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>That's you said.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, that wasn't the lie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I know, but but it looked like you said

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<v Speaker 1>the truth first.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and then I picked up you said you can't

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<v Speaker 2>handle the truth. The actual quote is I.

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<v Speaker 4>Want the truth. You can't handle the truth. That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what the that's what the line.

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<v Speaker 3>So I said the truth. I didn't say I want

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<v Speaker 3>the I said the truth. You can't handle the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>That's good, good job.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thanks man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just trying to think of something that was

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<v Speaker 3>in your wheelhouse. And you know, I read the Bible

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<v Speaker 3>a lot, but you watch a lot of movies, and

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<v Speaker 3>so I thought maybe you would know movie references.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can go on all day about things that

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<v Speaker 1>we do to consume our time. If it's not the Bible,

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<v Speaker 1>then it's evil right probably, or something right right right?

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<v Speaker 4>Or football. Those are the things that please the Lord. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>please the Lord.

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<v Speaker 3>So we are continuing with Paul and the story in

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<v Speaker 3>the of Acts and the spread of the Gospel. And

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<v Speaker 3>so now Paul and Barnabas are traveling, and if you remember,

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<v Speaker 3>they had been in a town, and they had spoken

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<v Speaker 3>specifically first there at Antioch and Pasidia to the Jews

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<v Speaker 3>and in the synagogues, and some people believe, some didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>They kind of rejected them. And so then they took

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<v Speaker 3>the Gospel of the Gentiles, and then that became the

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<v Speaker 3>pattern from that point on. They come in, they go

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<v Speaker 3>to a synagogue, and then they go out in the

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<v Speaker 3>streets and preach to everybody else. So that's what's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be happening here. We're going to read kind of

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<v Speaker 3>a long passage, but it's very interesting. So just follow

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<v Speaker 3>a long We're and read Acts chapter fourteen, reading from

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<v Speaker 3>the New Living Translation, said the same thing happened in Iconium.

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<v Speaker 3>Paul and Barnabas went to the Jewish synagogue and preached

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<v Speaker 3>with such power that a great number of both Jews

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<v Speaker 3>and Greeks became believers. Some of the Jews, however, spurned

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<v Speaker 3>God's message and poisoned the minds of the Gentiles against

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<v Speaker 3>Paul and Barnabas, But the Apostles stayed there a long time,

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<v Speaker 3>preaching boldly about the grace of the Lord, and the

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<v Speaker 3>Lord proved their message was true by giving them power

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<v Speaker 3>to do miraculous signs and wonders. But the people the

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<v Speaker 3>town were divided in their opinion about them. Some sided

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<v Speaker 3>with the Jews and some with the Apostles. Then a

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<v Speaker 3>mob of Gentiles and Jews, along with their leaders, decided

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<v Speaker 3>to attack and stone them. When the Apostles learned of it,

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<v Speaker 3>they fled to the regional Lyaconia, to the town of

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<v Speaker 3>Lystra and Derby and the surrounding area, and there they

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<v Speaker 3>preached the good news. While they were at Listra, Paul

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<v Speaker 3>and Barnabas came upon a man with crippled feet. He'd

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<v Speaker 3>been that way from birth, so he had never walked.

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<v Speaker 3>He was sitting and listening as Paul preached. Looking straight

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<v Speaker 3>at him, Paul realized he had faith to be healed,

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<v Speaker 3>So Paul called to him in a loud voice, stand up,

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<v Speaker 3>and the man jumped to his feet and started walking.

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<v Speaker 3>When the crowd saw what Paul had done, they shouted

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<v Speaker 3>in their local dialect. These men are gods in human form,

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<v Speaker 3>and they decided that Barnabas was their Greek god Zeus,

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<v Speaker 3>and that Paul was Hermes, since he was the chief speaker. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>the temple of Zeus was located just outside the town,

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<v Speaker 3>so the priests of the temple and the crowd brought

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<v Speaker 3>bulls and wreaths of flowers to the town gates, and

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<v Speaker 3>they prepared to offer sacrifices the apostles.

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<v Speaker 4>But when the.

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<v Speaker 3>Apostles Barnabas and Paul heard what was happening, they tore

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<v Speaker 3>their clothing in dismay and ran out among the people, shouting, friends,

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<v Speaker 3>why are you doing this. We are merely human beings,

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<v Speaker 3>just like you. We've come to bring you the good

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<v Speaker 3>news that you should turn from these worthless things and

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<v Speaker 3>turn to the living God who made heaven and earth,

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<v Speaker 3>the sea and everything in them. In the past, he

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<v Speaker 3>permitted all the nations to go their own ways, but

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<v Speaker 3>he never left them without evidence of himself and his goodness.

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<v Speaker 3>For instance, he sends you rein and good crops, and

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<v Speaker 3>gives you food and joyful hearts. But even with these words,

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<v Speaker 3>Paul and Barnabas could scarcely restrain the people from sacrificing

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<v Speaker 3>to them. Then some Jews arrived from Antioch and Iconium

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<v Speaker 3>and won the crowds to their side, and they stoned

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<v Speaker 3>Paul and dragged him out of town, thinking he was dead,

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<v Speaker 3>But as the believers gathered around him, he got up

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<v Speaker 3>and went back into town. The next day he left

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<v Speaker 3>with Barnabas for Derby. After preaching the good news in Derby,

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<v Speaker 3>making many disciples, Paul and Barnabas returned to Lystra, Iconium

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<v Speaker 3>and Antiocho, Pasidia, where they strengthen the blue. They encouraged

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<v Speaker 3>them to continue in the faith, reminding them that we

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<v Speaker 3>must suffer many hardships to enter the Kingdom of God.

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<v Speaker 3>Paul and Barnabas also appointed elders in every church. With

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<v Speaker 3>prayer and fasting, they turned the elders over to the

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<v Speaker 3>care of the Lord in whom they had put their trust.

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<v Speaker 3>Then they traveled back through Pasidia to Pamphylia. They preached

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<v Speaker 3>the word in Perga, and they went down to Atalia. Finally,

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<v Speaker 3>they returned by ship to Antioch Assyria, where their journey

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<v Speaker 3>had begun. The believers there had entrusted them to the

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<v Speaker 3>grace of God to do the work that they had

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<v Speaker 3>now completed. Upon arriving in Antioch, they called the church

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<v Speaker 3>together and reported everything God had done through them and

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<v Speaker 3>how he had opened the door of faith to the

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<v Speaker 3>gentiles too. And they stayed there with the believers for

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<v Speaker 3>a long time. So that's kind of cool. So just

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<v Speaker 3>to be clear, all of these towns that they're mentioning

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<v Speaker 3>our ancient towns in what would be now modern day Turkey,

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and there's a lot happening here. So the

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<v Speaker 1>first observation is is that Saul is no longer called Saul.

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<v Speaker 4>It's only Paul, and that.

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<v Speaker 1>Only Paul at this point. And it's not Barnabas and Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's Paul and Barnabas.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's it's very obvious that their fame has been growing. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they've been gaining momentum in their ministry.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously Paul's confidence, you know, the more time that

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<v Speaker 1>separates him from his past, the more empowered.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure he probably feels yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then uh, and then it says that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, it says they hear of a stoning.

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<v Speaker 2>Now some people you know, who grew up like me.

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<v Speaker 2>You may hear.

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<v Speaker 1>Stoning and think of something else, But stoning is actually.

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<v Speaker 3>Paul and Barney has got stoned. But not but not

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<v Speaker 3>but not the way that we're that's correct, not the

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<v Speaker 3>way you think of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Woodstock thinks, right, So it's it's more so they

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<v Speaker 1>would take rocks and they would I mean, it was

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<v Speaker 1>the easiest.

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<v Speaker 2>Way, right.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a form of execution.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a form of execution.

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<v Speaker 1>They would bring people out and they would take rocks

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<v Speaker 1>and they would just throw them and they try to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't want to say it, but like

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<v Speaker 1>to hit him in the head. Yeah, And so that's

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<v Speaker 1>that was it.

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<v Speaker 3>So it would be you know, and they're not just

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<v Speaker 3>taking little rocks, they're taking big, big chunks of rocks.

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<v Speaker 3>Usually this still happens some in developing portions of the

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<v Speaker 3>world Afghanistan, Pakistan, some portions of India, Bangladesh. I've heard

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<v Speaker 3>of stoning's where people still do this kind of thing. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>well you know that means of execution.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember the story I told with Pastor Samson

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, that was the ston uh huh yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So they still do it. It's still a customary thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just because it turns out stones and rocks are everywhere,

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<v Speaker 3>so they're readily readily handy. So the basically they use

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<v Speaker 3>the same strategy. They come in, they preach in the synagogues.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of the Jewish people go, you're right, Jesus is

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<v Speaker 3>Then they go out and they begin to murmuring, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>quickly people's opinions change. Hey, he's a good guy. No,

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<v Speaker 3>Not only that, they went from he's a good guy too,

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know what it reminds me if it reminds

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<v Speaker 1>reminds me of of everybody's opinions about every political campaign ever.

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<v Speaker 1>so my buddy has this saying and he says, he says, man.

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<v Speaker 2>We're all sheep. He's like, he always does this all

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<v Speaker 1>And it is true. We form opinions based on almost

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<v Speaker 3>Right on twenty five second tiktoks right, change our world views, right, Yeah, And.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, the point is is that there's a fickle crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>even though thousands of years later so much has changed.

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<v Speaker 3>So that first time they hear of the plot to

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<v Speaker 3>long ways. So they get over to what town is it?

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<v Speaker 3>They're in Lystra and in Derby. These are kind of

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<v Speaker 3>fairly Greek in their outlook, in their worldview. And so

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<v Speaker 3>these guys come in and they see while they're preaching,

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<v Speaker 3>they see this guy who's been crippled for his whole life,

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<v Speaker 3>and Paul speaks with authority and heals this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's interesting how it says Paul had

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<v Speaker 1>realized that the man had enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Faith to be healed. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And so there's a part of me, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the movie part of me Cert is like wondering if

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<v Speaker 1>Paul sensed it like God, because it does say that

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<v Speaker 1>God gave them the abilities, right sure, it's at the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of the chapter it said that God had given

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<v Speaker 1>them special abilities to do miraculous science. It says giving

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<v Speaker 1>them power to do miraculous science, and wonders. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>a part of me that wonders if Paul had this

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<v Speaker 1>almost supernatural sense, you know. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>being a speaker, I know that, you know, if I

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<v Speaker 1>just been completely agreeing, and you can just tell, like

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<v Speaker 2>So it could just be that to you.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the Book of Hebrews talks about faith, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the whole book, so much of it's about faith, and

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<v Speaker 3>it talks about how you have to have faith in God,

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<v Speaker 3>that he first of all, that he exists, and that

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<v Speaker 3>he rewards those who you know, have faith in him

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<v Speaker 3>do good. So it may have been that he could

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<v Speaker 3>identify that this guy, of all the people, this guy

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<v Speaker 3>had dialed in and went, yes, I do believe in

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<v Speaker 3>the Creator, and yes, I do believe the Creator can

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<v Speaker 3>do anything. And so because that's consistent with the messages

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<v Speaker 3>they're giving.

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<v Speaker 4>So you're right that either way.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a sense or he was picking up on

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<v Speaker 3>this this guy's response, But how much faith does it take?

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<v Speaker 3>It takes enough faith to say I believe that that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>Because this guy didn't know all the details in the gospels,

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<v Speaker 3>he didn't know everything about Jesus Christ. He was identifying

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<v Speaker 3>with what little faith he did have, and that's how

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<v Speaker 3>much faith it takes to come to God.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, people actually say all the time, actually they say

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<v Speaker 1>I have to have more faith. I have to have

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<v Speaker 1>more faith. And if you look in the scriptures, Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>said always asked the question where is your faith?

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<v Speaker 2>Right now?

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<v Speaker 1>He did marvel twice. He marveled twice about I've never

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<v Speaker 1>seen such great faith in Israel.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And one, by the way, was from a Jewish or

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<v Speaker 1>from a Greek pagan, right and you know who you know,

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<v Speaker 1>remember the man who said, come and just speak the word,

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<v Speaker 1>and my servant be healed.

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<v Speaker 4>And then and then the other one was a Roman. Romans, yeah, Romans.

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<v Speaker 1>And so Jesus marveled twice about great faith. But he

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<v Speaker 1>never challenged people and said you must have more faith.

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<v Speaker 1>He always asked the question, where is your faith? And

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<v Speaker 1>so people always say.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that the one father said I believe, help my unbelief, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and Jesus healed the Mand's son with that statement.

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<v Speaker 4>Right right right. I believe partly, I believe mostly.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to say that I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the biggest misconceptions in Christianity. People always punish themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>They say, the reason why I'm not healed is I

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<v Speaker 1>just have to have more faith. And there are actually teachings,

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<v Speaker 1>there's denominations out there that that indicate that, like, well, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing everything right, you know, we're laying hands, we're praying.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason why you're not healed is because I guess

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<v Speaker 1>your faith is not big enough. And so I've I've

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<v Speaker 1>counseled people over and over and over who cry and

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<v Speaker 1>they say, I just have to have more faith, And

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's my fault that I'm not healed. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think to myself, well, that's spiritual abuse, because Jesus said,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to have bigger faith, you just have

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<v Speaker 1>to believe in a bigger God, right, because it takes

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<v Speaker 1>faith of a mustard seed, which is the smallest of seeds.

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<v Speaker 1>And Jesus said, if you have just that much faith,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's talking about true faith, he's you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>your faith doesn't to be bigger.

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<v Speaker 2>You just need a bigger God.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>And God selectively does these miracles for a purpose.

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<v Speaker 4>And then this.

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<v Speaker 3>Purpose it's to be able to highlight the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>the message that Paul and Barnabas are bringing you have

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<v Speaker 3>the power of God behind him.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm sure that there were other crippled people in

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<v Speaker 3>this region that didn't get healed that day, but this

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<v Speaker 3>We still live in a sinful world. We live in

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<v Speaker 4>It's not a perfect place.

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<v Speaker 3>There are a lot of really bad things that we

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<v Speaker 3>struggle through, not because God hates us, but because that's

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think I think it's Roman's eighth that

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<v Speaker 1>tells us that we live under the bondage and they

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<v Speaker 1>of sin. That's right, right, and it tells us that

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<v Speaker 3>So anyways, they come in, they heal this guy, and

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<v Speaker 3>then everybody's.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, oh my gosh, these guys are gods.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's right outside this town is the temple to Zeus,

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<v Speaker 3>and so the preach.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way. By the way, there's multiple temples of Zeus.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, there's just like.

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<v Speaker 1>There are mosques or just like there are churches or synagogues.

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<v Speaker 1>So this isn't the temple that we know of that

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<v Speaker 1>still stands today right somewhere, you know, with archaeological Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So but they had a temple to Zeus there. He

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<v Speaker 3>was their favorite god. So they decided Barnabas because he's

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<v Speaker 3>not talking much. He just seems to have a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of authority. Barnabas must be Zeus, and then Paul, he's

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<v Speaker 3>one making all the arguments, so he must be Hermes,

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<v Speaker 3>and they decided they're going to make sacrifices to him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Hermes was also the son of Zeus, and he

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's a weird way.

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<v Speaker 2>To spell it.

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<v Speaker 1>And it says that he's also the Hermes is the

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<v Speaker 1>right wherever Hades.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the place of the dead. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So they're like, oh, wow, we're gonna make a sacrifice.

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<v Speaker 3>These guys are living, walking guys, which means they were

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely convinced of the miracle they saw. Convinced absolutely, So

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<v Speaker 3>there wasn't any question about this one. This guy had

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<v Speaker 3>never walked in his whole life. They've seen him forever. Typically,

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<v Speaker 3>those kind of people would be sitting and begging at

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<v Speaker 3>the city gates or out in the streets. People would

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<v Speaker 3>see them all the time. There was no social network,

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<v Speaker 3>the social network to help people that were physically disadvantaged

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<v Speaker 3>would always be just pure charity. So people be begging,

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<v Speaker 3>and so they would have known this guy his entire life, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and then they see this miracle and they genuinely believe

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<v Speaker 3>it happens. But then Paul gets up and he preaches

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<v Speaker 3>a different message then the messages we see him preach.

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<v Speaker 4>To the Jewish people.

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<v Speaker 3>To the Jewish people, he gives kind of a argument

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<v Speaker 3>that Jesus is the Messiah based on Abraham all the

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<v Speaker 3>and he starts with where they're at. That power comes

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<v Speaker 3>from that creator, right, that's what. So he started with

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<v Speaker 3>the limited information that they had, and then he begins

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<v Speaker 3>to come to Jesus or bring them to Jesus there

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<v Speaker 3>and so people were thrilled, many people trusted. And then

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<v Speaker 3>maybe some of the enemies that came from Pasidia, they

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<v Speaker 3>they come in and immediately shift the crowds to the

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<v Speaker 3>point that they stoned Paul, and they think they stone

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<v Speaker 3>him to death. So these people who saw the miracle

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<v Speaker 3>and thought he was a god just a little while ago.

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<v Speaker 4>They're like, nah, it's killing right. It's pretty hardcore.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, Paul later on in the epistles

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<v Speaker 1>mentions like I've been shipwrecked, I've been stoned, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>beaten with rods, and you know, you better believe he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't forget this.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, when the scripture says that the people thought

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<v Speaker 1>they were dead, I understand that this stoning people, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like is the job done or not? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>So if they think Paul's dead, you know what that

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<v Speaker 1>means that dude get messed up, right, And I can't

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<v Speaker 1>even begin to imagine what it's like to people hurl

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<v Speaker 1>stones on you until they think you're dead.

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<v Speaker 4>They stoned him and the drug him out of town

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<v Speaker 4>thinking he was dead.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thinking he was dead.

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<v Speaker 3>But the believers gathered around him and they were praying

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<v Speaker 3>over him, and he gets up and goes back into town.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey I'm not very smart, but if somebody stones me

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<v Speaker 3>and leaves me for dead, I don't think I would

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<v Speaker 3>go back into that town. There's other towns, man, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, but he did. He kept back up and

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<v Speaker 3>went right back talking about the boldness that these guys

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<v Speaker 3>had is disincredible.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go back a little bit ago, Just

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<v Speaker 1>a few minutes ago, you had mentioned that he was

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<v Speaker 1>preaching to the Greeks right where they are.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>So my brother Jim, he is lives in Texas, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was at home one day and he was well, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it was, somehow he got connected to through his

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<v Speaker 1>church to minister to those who have come over from

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<v Speaker 1>India and they get off the plane and literally they

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<v Speaker 1>stepped foot in the country and they needed somebody to

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<v Speaker 1>help them integrate in the culture. So my brother said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do that. And he did such a good job.

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<v Speaker 1>He just took it upon himself to do this great ministry.

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<v Speaker 1>He had like four or five those those people from

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<v Speaker 1>India living with him, like practically living with him. And

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<v Speaker 1>the culture is so radically different. And Jim, my brother Jim, says,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you can go in my refrigerator. And they said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we dare not go in your refrigerator. He said, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you I'm trying to train you about the

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<v Speaker 1>culture because they were coming over to go to school. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out that the government stopped calling the church

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<v Speaker 1>and and and said let's please.

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<v Speaker 2>Be a part of this ministry. They ended up getting

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<v Speaker 2>my brother's phone number.

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<v Speaker 1>And now now the city officials call my brother, uh

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<v Speaker 1>straight straight away because everybody flies in flies into Dallas,

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<v Speaker 1>right and and uh and or yeah it's Dallas. And

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<v Speaker 1>so anyway, the bottom line is this, Now my brother

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<v Speaker 1>has three or four hundred Indians who he actually hangs

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<v Speaker 1>out with and actually has this big ministry, and he

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<v Speaker 1>has these photos on his you know, social media where

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's a huge group of people and he's

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<v Speaker 1>right there in the center with his wife, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and and he's developed this whole thing. My point is

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<v Speaker 1>this is that it is so different to try to

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<v Speaker 1>introduce the idea that Jesus is the way to heaven

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<v Speaker 1>to somebody who believes.

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<v Speaker 2>In multiple gods.

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<v Speaker 1>Because those who are you know, Hindu, they believe in

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<v Speaker 1>multiple gods. Well it's not too much different than than

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<v Speaker 1>this Greek you know, they have they have this.

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<v Speaker 4>Ancient pantheon of gods.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so they're you know, they're probably theistic, which means

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<v Speaker 1>multiple God. And anyway, so here's here's what Jimmy said.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this is very interesting. He said, the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>has to begin here where I have to tell them

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus is a god and then Jesus is the God. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>he has to start with the fact that Jesus is

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<v Speaker 1>a god. And he said, so, so if you try

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<v Speaker 1>to just approach people with, you know, just just the truth,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, it's just not going to work.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to start where they're at.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you'll see that becomes more and more of Paul's

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<v Speaker 3>strategy as we go through this. So then in that

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<v Speaker 3>last thing, as they come in to give a report,

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<v Speaker 3>they finish this big loop and they come back to

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<v Speaker 3>the Antioch and Syria, they give a report and they

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<v Speaker 3>admit they talk about the fact that suffering was a

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<v Speaker 3>big part of this. And so if you asked Paul,

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<v Speaker 3>would you do it again? We know he would because

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<v Speaker 3>he goes on two more journeys just like this and

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<v Speaker 3>suffers even more. So the more mature you become as

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<v Speaker 3>a Christian, the less you are concerned about your own comfort,

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<v Speaker 3>and the more you become concerned about being effective for

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<v Speaker 3>the forward movement of the Kingdom of God. And so

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<v Speaker 3>that should be kind of your attitude and your thought

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<v Speaker 3>as you go through the to day today and over

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<v Speaker 3>the next week. Is God, help me to be effective,

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<v Speaker 3>Give me the strength and the courage. Paul gets up

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<v Speaker 3>after being stone and goes right back in that same town. Tom,

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<v Speaker 3>give me the boldness, give me the courage, give me

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<v Speaker 3>the strength. But I want to be as effective as

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<v Speaker 3>possible for your kingdom today.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. You know what that reminds me of is just

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday, both Jeff and I attend Heritage Church were

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<v Speaker 1>pastors there, and on Sunday this eighty year old woman

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<v Speaker 1>who I know came out and she just said, Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm having a hard time. She said, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we sang like this three minute medley right where we

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<v Speaker 1>actually played Leonard Skinner right, and we did this a

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<v Speaker 1>little little bit, but we did it with intention because

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<v Speaker 1>we were trying to say in our culture, culture reflects

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<v Speaker 1>the heart and the culture. Our medley was about independence,

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to be independent. So she just says, she said,

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<v Speaker 1>IM having a hard time, and I said, I said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but we had like twelve minutes of worship. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>so you just have to go ahead and make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that you are, you know, in your maturity, which is

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<v Speaker 1>what you mentioned, right, you know, getting on board with

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that you know, we we surrender our preferences

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<v Speaker 1>to those who are lost.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, sure, so we sometimes use things that we capture

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<v Speaker 3>the attention of somebody that's far from God in order

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<v Speaker 3>to be able to get the Gospel to them, and

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<v Speaker 3>that that's what we did there. So yeah, it's good.

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<v Speaker 3>So anyways, that's what we talked about today. Tomorrow we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to pick back up and we're going to keep going.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a council, another council in Jerusalem and they're really

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<v Speaker 3>trying to work through what do we do with these gentiles.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's what we're talking about tomorrow on what do

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<v Speaker 3>we called now the Bible guys,