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You're listening to the Bible, guys, a podcast where a couple of friends

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talk about the Bible in fun,
in practical ways. Well, Chris,

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we're back. It's a new week. It's a new week. We want

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to welcome every person who's either listening
or watching. Yes, that's right.

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And we have just over half of
the people who just listen on different what

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what call? We have quite quite
a bit more people who listen on podcasts.

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Yeah, podcast platforms, like podcast
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I like Spotify or Apple podcasts,
Speaker one of those. And then

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you know, less than that,
the watch on YouTube. So yeah,

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very cool, it's really cool.
Thank you guys. Well, hey,

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today is Monday for us, and
hopefully if you're listening day by day it

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is for you, that's right,
or whatever other day? Yeah, sure,

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every day. Yeah you can stream, that's right. They're binging.

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They're binging on Saturday. Yes,
I don't know. Yes, So we

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always like to start off with a
special segment, and this segment is law

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or flaw. So Chris is going
to have to determine I'm going to read

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a law or a flaw. Yeah, Chris is going to have to determine

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which it is. And these are
all Old Testament so they are levitical type

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laws or flaws, okay, and
the most common Old Testament law. They're

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mostly all sort of scrunched in a
lot of them, yep, most of

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them. Yeah, so these ones
would be So it says don't eat animals

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with split hoofs. Oh well,
yeah, that's a lytical laws, which,

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by the way, remember you and
I had a converse law. Is

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it really? Yes, you're supposed
to only eat animals that have split hoofs

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that chew the cud. But you
can't eat animals they have split hoofs that

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don't chew the cud like a goat. They eat a sheep. They have

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split hoofs, but they chew the
cud, so you can eat them.

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A pig has a split hoof,
but that's true the cut, so you

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can't eat it. So I get
it, I get it back, I

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get it backwards. Yes, or
is it like are you saying it was

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written incomplete? It's split, it's
a split thing. But this one just

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flat out it's a band. The
question is is it a band to eat

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all animals with split hoofs, And
that's a flaw. It's not a band,

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not all animals, only some animals. A split hoofs Oh, well,

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that was a trick question, sort
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a little bit of a trick question, but it was legit. Yeah.

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Wow yeah. Leviticus eleven talks about
that that you can only eat the ones,

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you know, Yeah, like a
camel, you can. You can't

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eat a camel because it doesn't chew
its cut or whatever. Right, So

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anyways, here we go. Huh
next, uh, don't plant two different

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kinds of seed in your field.
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say. I know that there's two
different types of fabric, and I'm gonna

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say, law. Is it a
law? Yes, Liviticus nineteen nineteen No,

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good job, awesome. Yeah.
Uh. Don't trim your beard.

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Oh, we just talked about this. We just talked about this. That's

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definitely a lot. Yeah, that
is, it's a lot. Livitic Is

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nineteen twenty seven. Don't leave anything
in your vineyard. Oh, don't leave

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anything in your vineyard. It seems
like it should be a law, but

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I don't remember it. Um,
don't leave anything in your vineyard. That

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doesn't sound specific enough. The weird
part about every laws. I just remember

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it being so seemingly random. I'm
gonna start to talk yourself into circles.

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I'm going to say, flaw oh
look at that. Yeah, there you

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go. Because the way it's started, don't lead anything. I would agree,

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Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, I should have said

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to leave excess or something, but
yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

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And then you've already referenced this one. Don't wear clothing made of two different

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fabrics. Oh that's hilarious. That's
hilarious, I said it. Yeah.

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So that's that's a lot. That'steen
nineteen, dude. I'm going to kind

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of give you. I'm going to
give you a half a point on the

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the first one on the trick question. Yeah, yeah, so you get

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four and a half. I was
going to mention that, remember we read

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several weeks ago about you strained for
a nap, but you swallow a camel.

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That's right, And then you were
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don't think camels are well, went
back and look and it is unclean.

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Right, that's right, we're not
allowed to eat. Yeah I saw that.

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Yeah. So so it's in that
same chapter Leviticus eleven, is it.

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Yeah, So Yeah, that that
that's pretty that's pretty tricky the way

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that you laid that out there for
me. Yeah, let me let me

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just read that little piece there,
because it can be confusing to people.

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Right. So, when God is
giving the rules about what they can and

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can't eat, he gives this big
long rule about the kind of meats they

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can eat, and it says,
give the following instructions, people, user

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of all the land animals, these
are the ones you may use for food.

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You may eat any animal that has
completely split hooves and choose the cud.

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Right. You may not, however, eat the following animals that have

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split hooves or that chew the cud, but not both. Right. So,

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the camel choose the cud but doesn't
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unclean for you. The high racks
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split hooves, so it's unclean.
The hair choose the cud but does not

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have split hooves, so it's unclean. The pig evenly split hoofs but does

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not chew the cud, so it's
unclean. Right, And then he goes

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on and he talks about other stuff. So basically it's sheep and goats and

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cows. Sheep, goats and cows, that's basically it. I think deer.

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venison those things, so, but

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no camels and camels, it's pretty
crazy. A camel burger. Have I

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ever had a camelberg? No,
I've not. I've had. I've had.

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It's good, a bunch of weird
things, but never camel. Yeah.

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I had a camel burger in in
Fez in Morocco. Oh wow,

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Yeah, yeah that's really good.
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guess it'd be tough. It's not. It's super super good, super good.

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Yeah. Anyways, that's weird.
That's a weird topic, isn't it.

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Yeah. Well, you know,
we did a game show. I

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said this before the podcast started,
but usually when you say laws from the

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Old Testament, usually people are referring
to the Lilyvitical Laws and or the six

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hundred and thirteen, you know,
all all that, right, the uh,

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we did like this thing for Old
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we did this game show and we
studied as a floor, so our whole

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entire third floor smith gathered up in
the commons area and we were like and

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now the contested number three, And
then we were taking turns. We would

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see how long a person can sit
on the seat fo and so we'd say

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you got five in a row.
It's like whoo, and then the other

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person would go up, you know, and it was really fun, you

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know. And then I'm trying to
know of the six hundred and thirteen laws.

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Yeah yeah, yeah, and then
law or flaw yeah, and we

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just studied them, which is how
I in Bible college. Yeah, in

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Bible college rd yeah right, right, hey man, you do what you

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can when when it's that kind of
that's right, that's right. We don't

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have a TV in the dorm.
That's what you do for fun? Right,

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like what do you what do you
do? What do you do for

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fun? We study for an exam? Oh okay, good? Yeah?

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Well hey. In John chapter fifteen, we're looking at all of these statements

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as Jesus is heading towards the cross. These are like all of his last

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words to his disciples before he gets
arrested. They've already had the last supper.

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Yep, they broke the bread,
they shared the wine, they sang

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their hymn. They head out,
and they're heading towards the Mount of Olives,

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and apparently they're having this conversation as
they're walking along, and they stopped

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in a vineyard. That's right,
so Matthew, Chapter fifteen, verse eighteen.

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These are some of the last things
he really wants as disciples to know.

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And he says, if the world
hates you, remember that it hated

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me first. The world would love
you as one of its own if you

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belong to it, but you are
no longer part of the world. I

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chose you to come out of the
world, so it hates you. Do

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you remember what I told you?
A slave is no greater than the master.

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Since they persecuted me, naturally they'll
persecute you. And if they had

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listened to me, they would have
listened to you. They will do all

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this to you because of me,
for they have rejected the one who sent

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me. They would not be guilty
if I had not come and spoken to

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them, but now they have no
excuse for their sin. Anyone who hates

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me also hates my father. If
I hadn't done much miraculous signs among them

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that no one else could do,
they would not be guilty. But as

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it is, they would. They
have seen everything I did, yet they

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still hate me and my Father.
This fulfills what has written in their scriptures.

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They hated me without cause. But
I will send you the Advocate the

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Spirit of Truth, and he will
come to you from the Father and will

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testify all about me. And you
must also testify about me, because you

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have been with me from the beginning
of my ministry. I've told you those

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things so that you won't abandon your
faith, for you will be expelled from

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the synagogues. And the time is
coming when those who kill you will think

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they are doing a holy service for
God. This is because they have never

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known the Father or Me. Yes, I'm telling you these things now so

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that when they happen, you remember
my warning. I didn't tell you earlier

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because I was going to be with
you for a while longer. Yeah.

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Okay, Well that's everybody's favorite topic, right, Yeah, being persecuted following

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Jesus when it's going to cost you
a lot. Yeah, And you know

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it's interesting, how remember when remember
when Jesus having a conversation with Peter and

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he literally tells him that you're going
to basically give your life for me,

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like he says it like in a
pretty decently clear way, and Peter still

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chooses to follow Jesus way back then. And then, you know, he

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just had a conversation a couple of
podcasts ago where he actually said would he

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say, they said, we'll follow
you, we'll even die for you,

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right, and he says, I
tell the truth, you're gonna, Peter,

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You're gonna, you know, deny
me before the rooster crows twice.

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And then he just goes on to
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are going to persecute, you're going
to receive persecution in the same way.

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Well, imagine this. You know, it always says after the resurrection,

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it makes references to the fact that
then they remembered all the things that he

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taught. Then it made it.
Then it made sense, you know.

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It's it's a maturing of faith that
comes later where we see that Peter does

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give his life, right, all
the disciples give their lives. And this

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reminds me, honestly, I'm going
off on a tangent, but just give

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me bear with me here. I
had a really good friend who has been

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a Christian for a very long time, and he was even in ministry for

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years, and he just recently told
me that he no longer believes you,

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no longer believes. He thinks that
maybe Christianity's a croc and and this was

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a guy from the past. And
and I've just absolutely blown away because you

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know, if the Disciples, there's
there's evidence, there's there's and he's read

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these books, he's he's done the
studies. He's seen that the Disciples gave

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their lives. They didn't make up
the resurrection, they gave their lives.

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Right, this is recorded in history. You know, you read Fox's Book

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of Martyrs. You read that.
You know, nobody gives their lives for

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something that they don't believe in,
and it's recorded outside of the Bible.

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You know in secular history that these
gentlemen have all given their lives for what

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they believe. And I'm just thinking, like, I mean that plus a

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million other things. So so anyway, all that to say, I'm talking

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about strength of faith. I'm talking
about resolve and conviction to where you're willing

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to pay the price for your faith
because you absolutely know it's true. The

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difference between like today there are martyrs
for other faiths because they believe that their

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faith is true. Right, And
that's significant and there's something about that.

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But a Muslim, a radical Muslim
martyr, you know, who wears a

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vest into somewhere and blows up a
place or whatever it does that because they

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are absolutely convinced that what they believe
is true. So a listener could say,

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yeah, but other faiths do that
too. The difference is the reason

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why these guys died was because they
were not saying, I believe it's true.

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They died. These twelve died because
what they were claiming was I saw

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the resurrection happen right, right,
So they died because they were not claiming

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right. They were not saying I
believe because my pastor told me I believe

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because I read a book. They
were not saying I believe because that's what

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our faith believes. They died because
they said I saw the risen Lord.

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I ran into the tomb and it
was empty, and later Jesus stuck his

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hands out in front of me.
He said, go ahead, stick your

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fingers in the holes. I saw
him. He made breakfast for me on

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the beach in the Sea of Galilee. After he rose from the dead,

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I watched him die on the cross. I saw him as the resurrected Lord,

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I watched him as send to heaven. That kind of belief is very

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different from just saying I read a
book and a pastor told me, or

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I read a book and a mom
told me. Right, And this is

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huge. And this is why I'm
so flustered with my friend from the past

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who went to Bible College with me
a long time ago, because I'm thinking

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of all the stories that I know
in his life. I'm like, Okay,

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what about that time when you told
me this miraculous story that was like

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completely defy the odds where you saw
God work beyond any calculable odds, right,

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and then and it was just and
it's it's one of the most famous

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God stories that I know of.
And what about that, right, Like,

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what about all these things that you've
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which is sort of that whole undeniable
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Yeah, and uh, and I'm
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me away. But thank goodness that
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say, thank goodness that we know, you know, we probably won't have

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to decide whether we're going to give
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know, you know, but I
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before I walk in here. Yeah, with a bunch of pastors in the

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Middle East. Yeah, who are
saying? We want to plant churches,

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We want to lead people to Jesus, but we need to be careful where

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we do the training because it's very
dangerous for us. Excuse me. So,

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Yeah, you just never know,
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Along those lines, we have our
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called The Faith by Chuck Colson.
If you've never read, if you want

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to read a fairly easy, easy
to read book about the what Christians believe

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and why we believe it. The
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But Chuck was before he became a
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He ruined people's careers, he ruined
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job. He was a really horrible
human right, and it was all about

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political power. So when Watergate happened, Richard Nixon had let all everybody know,

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I'm the most powerful man in the
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stay quiet, don't say anything,
right, all you insiders. But then

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the FEDS began to put the screws
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and Agnew broke After just like a
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he's like, Okay, I'll spill
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on everybody. Chuck Colson winds up
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said, the proof, the greatest
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from the dead is that in my
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world promised to protect us. The
second most powerful man only had to keep

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his mouth shut in a firm a
lie. It's all he had to do,

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and we all could avoid prison.
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man in the world was afraid the
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protect him, and he rolled on
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prison and Nixon lost his job as
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was standing there before the executors and
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with spears, or when they were
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or when they were going to crucify
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thinking go, ha, I was
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to recant. In many situations,
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because you're Roman citizens. You guys
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some of them. And the same
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citizen. All see. What they
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you know, I was making the
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Lord. And he probably very likely
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so when you've got the most powerful
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president after just a few days,
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the same. Surely, right,
Surely when they're faced with death, not

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just three years, I think.
I think Colston went to prison for like

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two or three years. They weren't
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prison. They were facing death.
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and said, no, I cannot
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resurrected Lord. That's very different than
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somebody, right, And so Chuck
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to him that what the Jesus says, he said as he is is because

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his followers died claiming that they saw
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great. So I guess the application
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are we what are we willing to
call you know, it's sacrifice or what

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does it? You know, whatever
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stand up for our faith? Because
there are people out there who their families,

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their entire families say, you know, because you've made this choice and

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you've converted to Christianity or you believe
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Yes, and and and there are
families who who you know, have to

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make this really painful choice, and
they say, well I can't. I

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can't deny what I believe to be
absolutely true. And I love my family,

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but I have to follow my Lord. And Jesus talks about that in

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other places where he says, unless
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your father and your mother, you
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Jesus, you know it has to
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circum stances or even family, as
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So I just want to, you
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today, like there are times where
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is going to cost you, maybe
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boss. Or you may be a
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to do that goes against your conscience, that goes against your faith, and

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you know that it's your boss asking
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it, it's going to cost you, you know, and those those are

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hard choices. So Jesus says in
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will be expelled from the synagogue.
Right to be expelled from the synagogue in

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the Jewish world was you were kicked
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from because it wasn't just going to
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that's right. This was their whole
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so basically he's said, you'll lose
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They'll do it, and you know, that's kind of surprising to the kind

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of Christian And so I think we
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that God's plan for you is to
make your life so amazing and make all

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your wildest dreams come true, when
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it's not entirely that way. This
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is they're gonna hate you because of
me. There's a really good chance.

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And so we are surprised and we
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said something harsh to us or something. You know. So here's my caution

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to our listeners as we wrap up. Don't be persecuted because you're a jerk.

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Right, Sometimes Christians feel they're just
mean in the way that they say

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what they say, and they feel
like then when people react to them,

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that you know, people are persecuting
them. So he doesn't say I'm going

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to reward you for being a jerk, but he does say, if you're

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like me, they're gonna hate you
because they hated me. So we need

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to be like Jesus. And if
we're like jess and then they hate us

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because they see Jesus in us,
we shouldn't be surprised by that. Yeah,

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and we know that that is the
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because the very I was going to
say, the very next verse, it's

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the previous verse of where you started
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other. That's great. So he
just came off of talking about this is

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how people will know. This is
the evidence how people know that you're my

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followers, truly my followers. If
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So well, that's a great place
to end, and that's our time,

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so we will see you hopefully next
time on the Bible. Guys,