WEBVTT 00:00.360 --> 00:01.370 Let's do it. 00:28.030 --> 00:30.290 Been one short bus all day. 00:31.270 --> 00:33.010 Short. Yes. 00:34.350 --> 00:37.718 Gonna see what kind of movie they got 00:37.774 --> 00:38.370 today. 00:49.350 --> 00:52.744 Well, hello, everybody. Welcome back to another fun 00:52.792 --> 00:55.976 filled adventure as the wheels go round 00:56.008 --> 00:57.740 and round on the short bus. 00:58.600 --> 01:01.584 And I am one of your co hosts, 01:01.752 --> 01:04.912 Mister Rock and roll over Rick Morgan. And I'm 01:04.936 --> 01:08.672 here with my brother, mister God of thunder. What's up? 01:08.696 --> 01:10.820 Johnny Krug, the cat man. 01:12.440 --> 01:16.024 No, not much, dude. Easy, cat man. They are 01:16.072 --> 01:16.820 serious. 01:19.570 --> 01:23.150 Yeah, not much. Head along for the ride. Special guest, 01:23.810 --> 01:27.666 Mister Rock and roll all night, party every day. Mister Joseph 01:27.698 --> 01:30.866 Henson. What's up, brother? Oh, not a whole lot. 01:30.898 --> 01:34.110 This, uh, this movie made me feel so unholy. 01:41.370 --> 01:44.922 Oh. So, yeah, this is, uh, this is 01:44.946 --> 01:49.252 one that I wanted to do because it's 01:49.276 --> 01:52.572 one of those love hate movies. I know this movie is terrible, but it's 01:52.596 --> 01:56.796 one of those events that happens when you're a kid. And even 01:56.828 --> 01:59.480 though you hold your head in shame, 01:59.900 --> 02:02.720 I still kind of love this movie because it is terrible. 02:04.540 --> 02:07.796 Man. And we are talking about kiss meets the 02:07.828 --> 02:11.308 phantom, or if you're an old og, kiss meets 02:11.324 --> 02:12.640 the phantom of the park. 02:16.280 --> 02:19.808 You know, this, this movie, I had never seen it before, 02:19.904 --> 02:23.104 watching it this time, but it felt like, 02:23.192 --> 02:26.712 and you, you guys know a lot of the details in the background on this, 02:26.776 --> 02:30.440 but it felt like they were trying, you know, all the 02:30.600 --> 02:34.688 parents thought Kiss was this evil rock band, and it felt like they 02:34.704 --> 02:38.420 put together this movie to say, look, these guys are completely family friendly. 02:39.330 --> 02:43.050 Well, and like I said, there's a lot to talk about 02:43.090 --> 02:46.690 in this movie. But first and foremost, here's, here's kind of what happened. 02:46.730 --> 02:49.922 Yeah, you kind of had this bad karma thing going on with, 02:50.066 --> 02:53.370 you know, parents saying there are knights in Satan service going 02:53.410 --> 02:56.602 around, but the other side of it is 02:56.746 --> 02:59.550 about, I don't know, a year before, 03:00.690 --> 03:04.160 they had released, Marvel had released the Kiss comics, 03:04.290 --> 03:08.356 where Kiss had superhero powers. Like hearing from their 03:08.388 --> 03:11.604 eye. Well, yeah, I mean, they fought 03:11.652 --> 03:15.612 Doctor doom. I mean, they were legit, you know, superheroes in the 03:15.636 --> 03:18.852 Marvel universe. Oh, geez. Yeah, 03:18.916 --> 03:22.828 I mean, and Johnny, I mean, to find one of those original comics 03:22.924 --> 03:26.200 is, like, unreal, what it's worth, 03:26.620 --> 03:28.800 because it was printed in kiss blood. 03:30.580 --> 03:33.852 They actually drew some blood and put it supposedly in the, 03:33.876 --> 03:37.188 the red ink. So when you bought a copy, you had some of their blood 03:37.244 --> 03:40.320 mixed in the red ink order. I mean, there was a big promotion thing. 03:40.940 --> 03:44.812 You can't even find those comics. They've reissued them, and there was 03:44.836 --> 03:48.240 two of them, and they combined them together. But that was such a big hit. 03:48.700 --> 03:52.748 I guess that's what really started 03:52.804 --> 03:56.120 the idea of this movie. But we, let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. 03:56.580 --> 03:59.956 We've got to get into this in a little bit. But let's talk about 03:59.988 --> 04:03.080 some other stuff. So special guest, 04:03.500 --> 04:07.172 Joseph, man, tell us. Tell us what's going on in your world, man. 04:07.356 --> 04:10.908 Oh, not, you know, not a whole lot outside of the hysteria 04:10.964 --> 04:14.596 continues. I'm pretty much doing that full time. We just 04:14.668 --> 04:18.436 released, I think it was terror night. I mean, these episodes 04:18.468 --> 04:21.840 kind of bleed together, but it was terror night from 1987. 04:22.420 --> 04:25.668 We got ten to midnight coming out in a week or so. 04:25.804 --> 04:29.840 Nice. Yeah, we got a few commentaries 04:30.340 --> 04:33.460 in the bag for 88 films, vinegar syndrome and 04:33.500 --> 04:36.996 Arrow. Other than that, I mean, that's pretty much all I do now. 04:37.068 --> 04:40.532 So. Man. So there you go, folks. Short bus. 04:40.556 --> 04:43.960 Then hit the high time. We got a celebrity on the show. Yo, 04:44.260 --> 04:47.798 I wouldn't go that far. He's been 04:47.814 --> 04:51.046 a good buddy for quite a while and we have always enjoyed 04:51.078 --> 04:54.238 having him on. And, man, it's awesome that things are doing so well 04:54.254 --> 04:57.574 for you and the guys. Yeah, it's been ten years. I mean, 04:57.622 --> 05:01.646 we just had our 10th year anniversary as well. Wow. At the end of January. 05:01.758 --> 05:05.570 So it took ten years, but yeah, it's, it's crazy. 05:06.110 --> 05:09.494 Wow. Well, what we're going to do right now, we're going to take a short 05:09.542 --> 05:11.330 break and. Short break. 05:15.060 --> 05:18.188 I wish I could do a good brack. It'd be all right. We're gonna take 05:18.204 --> 05:21.500 a short break. We'll be right back with kiss meets the phantom. 05:21.540 --> 05:22.160 Yo, 05:26.940 --> 05:28.520 get out of the way. 05:33.940 --> 05:37.668 All I know is today it's October 3131 backwards is 13. 05:37.804 --> 05:41.174 It's Friday. It's Halloween 13th, anniversary of the lawnmower 05:41.222 --> 05:44.450 killings as a crazy loose. It's prom night. 05:46.510 --> 05:49.990 Hi, this is Tracy Savage, Debbie from Friday 05:50.070 --> 05:53.982 the 13th part three for the best podcast 05:54.086 --> 05:57.670 ever on old slasher movies. Be sure you find 05:57.750 --> 06:01.510 hysteria continues. You will be glad you did. 06:01.590 --> 06:05.326 And hey, stay out of Crystal Lake, okay? Every episode 06:05.358 --> 06:08.892 we celebrate a classic slasher movie such as Friday the 13th, 06:08.956 --> 06:12.188 Halloween, my Bloody Valentine, happy Birthday to me, 06:12.244 --> 06:15.628 and crazy for Ethel two. 06:15.764 --> 06:17.800 Please don't hurt me, Ethel. 06:20.420 --> 06:25.356 The history continues, bringing slash with Panache since 2011. 06:25.548 --> 06:29.120 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher and all good podcatchers. 06:42.520 --> 06:44.940 And now for our feature presentation. 06:49.760 --> 06:54.904 All right. And we're back with Kiss meets the Phantom of the park from 1978. 06:54.992 --> 06:58.680 When you think 1978, you don't think movies like Halloween. 06:58.800 --> 07:01.940 You think movies like Kiss meets the Phantom of the park. Yo, 07:03.580 --> 07:06.324 the IMDb for this is a 4.8, which, 07:06.452 --> 07:08.280 man, that is in. 07:09.700 --> 07:13.036 When you compare that, it's like 4.7 too high. 07:13.228 --> 07:16.692 Dude, I was just gonna say, when you put this up to next to things 07:16.716 --> 07:20.292 we've done on short bus in the past, like, I feel like this is, 07:20.356 --> 07:23.692 this isn't as good as some stuff we've done and some in some of those 07:23.716 --> 07:25.640 movies have gotten way lower scores. 07:27.020 --> 07:31.318 But this movie, it is directed by 07:31.454 --> 07:35.022 Gordon Hessler, who did scream and scream again with 07:35.046 --> 07:37.490 Vincent Price and Cry of the Banshee also. 07:38.070 --> 07:42.022 Yeah, it's, it's crazy because there, that's something I'll 07:42.046 --> 07:46.930 talk about later in this movie. But the villain in this man 07:47.270 --> 07:51.170 could have been so much more if they had gotten somebody like Vincent Price. 07:53.350 --> 07:56.790 But this movie's also. It's written by 07:56.830 --> 08:00.870 two different guys. Bye, Don Bru. We'll see 08:01.930 --> 08:05.350 Don Bidet, which. Okay. 08:05.850 --> 08:09.066 And Jan Michael Sherman almost said Jan Michael Vincent. 08:09.258 --> 08:12.842 And they're known for movies like Slithis and Too Hot to handle, 08:12.906 --> 08:16.706 which was, from what I read, too hot to handle is 08:16.858 --> 08:20.590 some kind of, like, sexy adventurer movie. 08:21.410 --> 08:25.266 Sure. Yeah. The cast of this movie is 08:25.298 --> 08:29.400 kissed and the rock band and Anthony 08:29.480 --> 08:32.580 Zerbe. Is that how you say that? Yeah. 08:32.960 --> 08:36.928 Played Edwardevereau. Yeah. Yep. And then Carmine 08:37.024 --> 08:40.496 carried II. I didn't really know anybody in this movie, 08:40.528 --> 08:43.288 but when I looked him up, I'd seen them in every. I mean, well, 08:43.304 --> 08:47.040 you didn't recognize Brian James as the, one of the security guards, 08:47.200 --> 08:51.008 was that. Yeah. Was he really in this? Yeah. You didn't know. 08:51.104 --> 08:54.128 He's like, he said it was him or his twin. 08:54.264 --> 08:58.056 Oh, dude. Yeah. That's so crazy. I'm looking at, yeah, right there. Brian James, 08:58.248 --> 09:02.008 he usually stands out, too, because he kind of looks like a thumb that got, 09:02.104 --> 09:05.504 you know, involved in a machinery accident 09:05.552 --> 09:09.056 in his face. Well, the guy 09:09.088 --> 09:13.688 that plays Devereux has been in a ton of stuff. And your two teenage 09:13.784 --> 09:17.232 supposed actors were both in soap operas at this time, so they were 09:17.256 --> 09:20.412 kind of a hot commodity and everybody knew who they were, so that was kind 09:20.436 --> 09:23.680 of the draw. There's the ones that could actually act. 09:24.580 --> 09:27.956 Well, yeah, the main actress in this, she had, like, she had some good 09:27.988 --> 09:30.520 chops when it came to screaming and stuff like that. 09:31.340 --> 09:33.716 But it's funny when you look a lot of these people up like her. 09:33.788 --> 09:37.332 I mean, they have soap opera stuff, but, like, in the first two or 09:37.356 --> 09:40.080 three credits, it shows this. So you're like, ooh, 09:40.780 --> 09:44.172 sorry. Sorry about that. But, dude, 09:44.196 --> 09:47.400 I mean, again, I mean, and I'm defending it because, 09:48.690 --> 09:52.602 I guess because of the time. But this thing was so 09:52.706 --> 09:56.122 huge when it came out. And, yeah, it is not good. 09:56.186 --> 09:59.802 And like I said, the kiss had a thing where if 09:59.826 --> 10:02.590 you worked for them, you couldn't bring it up. 10:04.050 --> 10:06.350 You were not allowed to talk about the movie. 10:07.810 --> 10:10.922 They did not like the idea at all. But when this 10:10.946 --> 10:14.946 thing came out, like I said, I mean, I skipped Halloween parties 10:14.978 --> 10:18.786 and everything to stay home and watch this. And it was the most watched television 10:18.938 --> 10:21.866 event in almost a decade. 10:21.938 --> 10:25.842 So this thing, it screened on Halloween. Or it screamed, 10:25.866 --> 10:28.590 like, a couple of days before. But, 10:29.170 --> 10:33.154 I mean, it was. It was an event. I mean, there was magazines 10:33.202 --> 10:35.882 and stuff out, you know, put out before. And just like you do any of 10:35.906 --> 10:38.882 your Star wars and stuff, you know, you get your, you know, magazines to come 10:38.906 --> 10:42.384 out beforehand, explaining stuff and all that. It was a 10:42.432 --> 10:46.376 big deal. Speaking of Star wars, this is. This is basically the equivalent 10:46.408 --> 10:50.180 of the Christmas special. It's pretty close. 10:50.520 --> 10:53.848 So for you folks that have never seen this, I'll give 10:53.864 --> 10:57.128 you a little backstory. Kiss being the hot commodity 10:57.184 --> 10:59.888 that they were, they were approached. 11:00.064 --> 11:03.528 Johnny didn't say who produced this movie. He talked about who directed it, but it 11:03.544 --> 11:06.540 was produced by Joseph Barbera. 11:07.150 --> 11:10.550 That's right. Hanna Barbera did 11:10.590 --> 11:14.486 this movie. Oh. And it just. It just. It just definitely 11:14.518 --> 11:17.718 comes across as something Hanna Barbera would do. Oh, yeah. Yeah. 11:17.774 --> 11:21.574 So when they have. When the idea was so to 11:21.662 --> 11:24.894 kiss and their managers, they told him, it's gonna be like a hard day's night, 11:24.942 --> 11:28.606 which is the, you know, incredible Beatles movie that came 11:28.638 --> 11:32.166 out. It was such a phenomenon for the. Especially for Kiss, because they were such 11:32.198 --> 11:35.722 Beatles fans. So they took that idea and said, it's gonna be a combination 11:35.786 --> 11:38.710 of that and Star wars, and. 11:40.290 --> 11:42.270 And somewhere it got lost. 11:45.370 --> 11:48.602 But, yeah, I mean, there's. There's tons and tons of stories 11:48.666 --> 11:52.338 of the failure of this movie, but I think Johnny 11:52.354 --> 11:56.226 and I were talking back and forth, you know, while just 11:56.258 --> 11:59.506 talking about this movie. And once you realize that this is 11:59.538 --> 12:03.132 a Hanna Barbera movie, all your background music, 12:03.236 --> 12:07.196 all your sound effects, everything is straight out of, like, Scooby Doo 12:07.228 --> 12:11.116 cartoons. Yeah. And you're. Your. Your Hanna Barbera childhood 12:11.148 --> 12:13.560 is ruined when you learn that, 12:14.380 --> 12:17.516 dude. Well, you know, it's funny, and we'll get into the plot 12:17.548 --> 12:20.604 and stuff, but, I mean, it plays out like Scooby Doo, man. 12:20.772 --> 12:24.108 Yeah, it does. Like, straight up. I mean, that's. That's who it 12:24.124 --> 12:27.520 was made by. The only thing it was missing was the Harlem Globetrotters. 12:28.460 --> 12:30.840 Oh, that would have been great. 12:31.780 --> 12:35.400 But the way after they agreed to do this. 12:36.060 --> 12:38.680 Hannah Burma or whoever was in charge at the time, 12:39.060 --> 12:42.468 they sent a writer to go around with each member of Kiss 12:42.524 --> 12:46.100 and just follow them around and capture their personalities so they could write skips 12:46.140 --> 12:48.640 based off of the way they reacted and talked. 12:49.180 --> 12:52.960 And Pete straight up told them, f y'all, 12:54.380 --> 12:57.272 I ain't doing it. Cause, you know, I gotta go out back and do some 12:57.296 --> 13:01.256 heroin. But Ace could 13:01.288 --> 13:04.672 care less, and he knew he was being followed, so he just went 13:04.696 --> 13:08.536 around going, ah, ah. All the time. I kept expecting 13:08.568 --> 13:12.152 Ace. I kept expecting Ace freely to go, my grand slam 13:12.216 --> 13:14.220 was supposed to be with sausage. 13:19.360 --> 13:22.392 But if you notice in the movie, he never really has. He has, like two 13:22.416 --> 13:24.260 or three lines, but the rest time he just goes. 13:26.290 --> 13:29.750 I thought that was an interesting choice of the writers 13:30.490 --> 13:33.938 just have a squawk, like some kind of, like, dull pelican. 13:34.034 --> 13:37.602 That's, let's put it this Gene Simmons is the best actor of 13:37.626 --> 13:40.930 the four. Easily. Yeah, yeah, well, 13:40.970 --> 13:44.190 and that's why he went on and had a somewhat career. Right. 13:44.730 --> 13:48.122 But yeah, that's. That's why Sony goes in 13:48.146 --> 13:51.900 the whole movie, which is one of the funny qualities 13:51.980 --> 13:54.908 about it, right? Because they'll talk about something serious. He'll just go, 13:54.964 --> 13:57.900 yeah, well, yeah, 13:58.020 --> 14:01.164 we'll. Get to that later. But, yeah, they're, like, interrogating him later, and he just 14:01.212 --> 14:04.604 squawks. I feel like the director probably 14:04.652 --> 14:07.612 went home after shooting every night and looked his wife in the eye and was 14:07.636 --> 14:11.160 like, honey, I'm sorry. Just kill me now. 14:13.100 --> 14:16.358 Yeah, I mean, and like I said, pete, even when it 14:16.374 --> 14:19.678 came time to finish the movie, he wouldn't even show up to 14:19.694 --> 14:23.022 do overdubs or anything. So that's not Pete's 14:23.046 --> 14:25.090 voice in the whole movie. Oh, wow. 14:26.070 --> 14:29.250 Pete sounds like he's got Demi Moore stuck in his throat. 14:30.670 --> 14:34.770 I mean, he's got a super raspy voice, very heavy accent, 14:35.590 --> 14:39.502 and, yeah, you know, that kind of messed with everybody's 14:39.526 --> 14:42.728 head because, you know, he was talking normal. And they're like, 14:42.814 --> 14:45.560 wait a minute. That don't sound anything like Pete. 14:47.540 --> 14:50.708 And there's just. It just goes on and on. The stunt double for 14:50.724 --> 14:54.412 ace really was a black guy. And they didn't, they didn't cover his 14:54.436 --> 14:57.236 hands, they didn't cover his neck. I mean, you can tell. It's just like, 14:57.268 --> 15:00.860 wait a minute. It's kind of weird. It's kind of a weird parallel there, 15:00.900 --> 15:04.068 because I had mentioned off air how I thought, 15:04.124 --> 15:07.540 you know, I'm sure I'm not the only person who thinks this, but I always 15:07.580 --> 15:11.192 thought Gene Simmons looked like Bill Duke. Like the white version of Bill Duke. 15:11.356 --> 15:15.008 And then what's interesting, you bring that up, because Bill Duke and Commando, 15:15.104 --> 15:18.792 he had a white stunt double for his fight with Arnold Schwarzenegger. So there's. 15:18.936 --> 15:22.912 There's some synchronicity for you. Well, you want to hear something even funnier 15:22.976 --> 15:26.416 is when you message Bill Duke. Some. 15:26.488 --> 15:29.816 Somehow my brain got that scrambled as David Duke. 15:29.968 --> 15:34.056 Oh, God. Like, isn't David 15:34.088 --> 15:37.496 Duke white? Joseph, it's amazing you say 15:37.528 --> 15:40.408 that, because I remember me and my wife going to see Preter, which she was 15:40.424 --> 15:43.922 my girlfriend back then, but I saw this guy, and I was like. 15:44.066 --> 15:47.682 I said, becky, I said, that guy looks like a black gene simmons. 15:47.786 --> 15:51.186 He does. I mean, he even talks like him. They have, like, the same voice, 15:51.298 --> 15:54.810 same mannerisms. Yeah, it's crazy. 15:54.930 --> 15:58.162 Very much so. But, yeah, so, yeah, I mean, and the guy 15:58.186 --> 16:01.458 that actually is the stunt dough for it, for Gene is like some really old 16:01.514 --> 16:04.986 guy. So when you see him with the wig and stuff 16:05.018 --> 16:08.796 on, it's like. It's almost like Benny Hill 16:08.868 --> 16:12.276 stepping in for Gene in the movie. I mean, it's really, really obvious it's 16:12.308 --> 16:16.300 not Gene. Oh, dude, there's a scene where it's like a wire. Like a wire 16:16.340 --> 16:19.120 trick, and you could just tell it's an old dude. 16:19.900 --> 16:21.920 That's it. That's what I'm talking about. 16:24.580 --> 16:27.080 So, anyways, let's get on with this. 16:28.180 --> 16:31.300 Yeah, we're at an amusement 16:31.340 --> 16:35.412 park, which is actually magic, mountainous, which was supposedly the 16:35.436 --> 16:38.560 biggest, you know, amusement park of its kind at the time. 16:39.300 --> 16:42.508 And there's gonna be a big kiss concert there. Matter of fact, three of them 16:42.524 --> 16:45.788 in a row, because, you know, you sound at an 16:45.804 --> 16:50.116 amusement park. I like the intercoms, like, kiss tonight, 16:50.268 --> 16:54.036 kiss tonight. Kiss. It's like, okay, 16:54.068 --> 16:57.372 who's playing tonight? I mean, 16:57.436 --> 17:00.816 it doesn't matter that you get, you know, statues of them everywhere, 17:00.888 --> 17:03.980 you know, as well, saying, you know, they're gonna be there tonight. But. 17:04.800 --> 17:08.180 But, you know, I get it. I've got a 17:09.040 --> 17:12.328 buddy here that is the. At one time, he was 17:12.344 --> 17:15.816 the world champion banjo player. Lives just down the road from me. 17:15.968 --> 17:19.184 And he used to have it have a spot in Opryland, you know, which is 17:19.232 --> 17:21.900 the. The Tennessee amusement park. 17:23.200 --> 17:26.258 And he kind of had his own spot there, so I 17:26.274 --> 17:29.578 can see where, you know. Okay. You just get booked to 17:29.594 --> 17:32.946 do these gigs, and you just do them because your management just got you this 17:32.978 --> 17:36.482 spot. So kissing a lull, for some reason, got to play 17:36.506 --> 17:40.430 at Magic Mountain. You never told me you were friends with Kermit. The frog. 17:41.250 --> 17:44.910 Oh, yeah. Man, why are there so many? 17:46.610 --> 17:49.030 How do we get out here? Yeah, it's back the way you came. 17:53.780 --> 17:57.284 And we get to, you know, your typical. I mean, you got kiss fans 17:57.332 --> 18:00.196 coming to your amusement park. So you're gonna get some rough and tumble people, 18:00.268 --> 18:03.708 right? I mean, that's what they're trying to portray here. If you're a 18:03.724 --> 18:06.972 kiss fan, you're a devil worshipper, right? I mean, 18:06.996 --> 18:10.964 that's kind of what we're saying. So we meet Snead. 18:11.132 --> 18:14.524 You never get his real name. Just Snead, which is like the main 18:14.572 --> 18:18.482 security guard in the amusement park. And the guy just calls 18:18.506 --> 18:22.002 him all the time. Ain't that right, snead? Let's go get 18:22.026 --> 18:25.306 him, snead. Hey, snead. It's like, what the 18:25.338 --> 18:28.110 heck? Stop saying my name, please. 18:31.250 --> 18:34.322 He's like, we gotta be careful. Cause we got a riot on our 18:34.346 --> 18:38.010 hands. And hear him like, dude, it's some kids building a pyramid. I mean, 18:38.170 --> 18:40.390 yeah, you gonna bust these eight years olds? 18:41.090 --> 18:44.256 That was so weird. Like, I mean, the whole thing with, 18:44.288 --> 18:47.784 like, the. The bikers messing with the kids, building the pyramid. We'll have none of 18:47.792 --> 18:50.088 that in our park. I'm like, you don't have a whole lot of anything in 18:50.104 --> 18:53.800 this park. It's like the. The three 18:53.840 --> 18:57.032 bikers, they're like. Their. Their claim to trouble making is 18:57.056 --> 19:00.336 like they. They get up in people's face and they. They can only be bought 19:00.368 --> 19:03.460 off with, like, tickets to a haunted amusement attraction. 19:03.840 --> 19:07.776 I like. You never. I like the scene where they harass the $30,000 19:07.848 --> 19:11.198 monkey experiment. And I. Yeah, what the 19:11.214 --> 19:14.130 hell has. That guy been doing with $30,000 for the last year? 19:16.110 --> 19:19.542 Building this robot monkey? I mean, 19:19.606 --> 19:22.290 it's almost like showbiz pizza there for a minute, right? 19:24.430 --> 19:27.918 I always wanted. I wanted to get a good shot of that dude's jacket on 19:27.934 --> 19:30.294 the. On the back of his jacket. The leader of the group, because it says 19:30.342 --> 19:33.806 Satan's something. But I never could see what it says 19:33.838 --> 19:37.038 at the bottom. I always wondered what that is because you never get a good 19:37.054 --> 19:39.814 shot of it. By the way, the leader of that gang, 19:39.902 --> 19:43.090 Johnny, was in Jekyll and Hyde together 19:43.470 --> 19:46.530 again. He's the guy that gives up his testicle. 19:47.350 --> 19:50.622 Nice. I thought 19:50.646 --> 19:55.078 he looked familiar. He's been in several late 19:55.134 --> 19:57.250 seventies, early eighties stuff. 19:58.710 --> 20:02.022 We meet Sam and Melissa, which is, like we said earlier, 20:02.206 --> 20:05.354 possibly the only decent actors in the whole thing. Well, 20:05.442 --> 20:08.710 Sam, how far can you go? He just plays a robot the whole time. 20:10.690 --> 20:14.034 But I love that they're getting off a roller coaster together. 20:14.202 --> 20:17.642 And Melissa goes, do you have to go to work now? And he goes, 20:17.826 --> 20:20.994 there's something I don't understand. It's like, 20:21.082 --> 20:23.070 are y'all having the same conversation? 20:28.250 --> 20:31.762 But Sam's feeling that there's something odd going on, so he goes snooping 20:31.786 --> 20:35.530 around in Devereaux workshop. Now, Devereux, 20:36.310 --> 20:39.838 he's the phantom of the park, and, uh, so we 20:39.854 --> 20:42.050 can soup. Up amusement park rides. 20:44.590 --> 20:48.286 Well, I like when he's. I like when he's, um, the. The guy who 20:48.318 --> 20:51.150 runs the park. He, like, he basically lets Devereaux, you know, 20:51.190 --> 20:54.950 go. And I'm sitting there thinking, you know, it's so sad to watch Abner walk 20:54.990 --> 20:58.622 away. I wonder if Oliver Stone, you know, got the 20:58.646 --> 21:01.130 idea for Nixon's walk of shame from this film. 21:03.890 --> 21:07.186 Was that. That was after he souped up, like, the. What was that ride? 21:07.218 --> 21:10.970 Like, the crazy dance or something? Yeah, yeah. The big octopus looking thing. It spins 21:11.010 --> 21:13.670 around, and he, he hooks up that, like, 21:14.530 --> 21:17.898 special generator to it or something, 21:17.954 --> 21:21.010 and it makes it go, like, four times the speed. Well, 21:21.050 --> 21:23.706 and I. And I love all the ADR that's coming off of it. People like, 21:23.738 --> 21:27.386 oh, my God, we're gonna die. They just sped the field up, 21:27.418 --> 21:28.270 right? Yeah. 21:30.730 --> 21:33.922 Oh, I love the whole Devereux thing because 21:33.946 --> 21:37.330 he's like, hey, who took. Who took down the walrus display 21:37.370 --> 21:41.386 and put up this hideous thing of this rock band? He was like, the walrus 21:41.418 --> 21:43.350 display? That's what you're worried about? 21:45.010 --> 21:48.490 Well, I mean, you think about it, and you think about, like, that monkey costing 21:48.530 --> 21:52.466 $30,000 and you're like, man, they just must have disposable income. They had their 21:52.498 --> 21:56.146 hand in this dude. Well, this is. And that's. I think that's the breaking 21:56.178 --> 21:59.456 point, because he's saying he don't have enough. I'm like, dude, look at the stuff 21:59.488 --> 22:03.136 you've done. You built all these rides. You're building your, your monkey and 22:03.168 --> 22:06.352 stuff, and you're still not got enough money, you know, 22:06.416 --> 22:10.416 and the. The guys running the parks, giving him a hard time because, 22:10.608 --> 22:14.200 hey, man, you know, you're. You're not doing any pm on these illness 22:14.280 --> 22:17.848 equipment. You're just letting it break down. Well, doesn't he, 22:17.944 --> 22:21.816 like, in the beginning of the movie, doesn't he see the kiss banner flying overhead? 22:21.848 --> 22:25.860 He's like, how much did that cost? Like, he's angry. The dude bought a banner. 22:26.410 --> 22:29.186 Oh, yeah. That didn't cost $30,000, 22:29.258 --> 22:31.830 right? So, yeah, 22:32.450 --> 22:36.026 while this is going on, you got Sam, which is our young guy. This is 22:36.058 --> 22:40.682 snooping around in Devereux shop, and you 22:40.706 --> 22:44.034 got these cool 1970s space doors 22:44.122 --> 22:46.430 that just kind of, and they raise, 22:47.850 --> 22:50.954 like, star trek type doors, and he goes into one, 22:51.002 --> 22:54.220 and you don't know what happens to him. It closes, 22:54.260 --> 22:57.000 and it's like you hear him scream, and that's it. 22:57.340 --> 23:01.012 Which doesn't make a lick of sense, because Devereux not in 23:01.036 --> 23:03.720 there. So, 23:04.580 --> 23:08.280 yeah, I don't know what happens there. I don't guess it really matters. 23:13.220 --> 23:16.628 Devereux, with the kindness of his heart, because they're up 23:16.644 --> 23:18.120 there humping on his monkey, 23:19.730 --> 23:23.282 gives the biker group some free tickets to go to 23:23.306 --> 23:29.706 the chamber of thrills. And this 23:29.738 --> 23:31.870 chamber of thrills, man, here's the thing. 23:33.130 --> 23:37.470 All these robotics that are in the movie are just mimes. 23:38.450 --> 23:41.666 They're just people that are trying to act like robots, you know? 23:41.778 --> 23:45.216 So that, that's your budget in this, this movie. You don't have, 23:45.248 --> 23:48.792 like, any real robots. It's just dudes walking like shields in yarn. 23:48.816 --> 23:52.160 Ale. Yeah, they needed, 23:52.240 --> 23:55.312 they needed a little bit of Yule Brenner to kind of sprite spice things up 23:55.336 --> 23:58.656 a little bit. Yeah. The ones, the ones in the scary, like, 23:58.688 --> 24:02.112 the spook house, they're a little bit more convincing than 24:02.256 --> 24:05.624 the ones later. Well, they got the COVID of darkness to help them out a 24:05.632 --> 24:09.518 little bit there. Dude, it is so dark, too. I mean, and that's, 24:09.624 --> 24:13.546 that's something that, on that, the other version that I sent. So I messed 24:13.578 --> 24:16.986 up when we were prepping for this show, and I sent them the australian version 24:17.018 --> 24:19.978 of this movie, and it's called, 24:20.154 --> 24:22.830 it's called the attack of the phantoms. 24:24.730 --> 24:26.870 And it's nothing but wallabies. And. 24:30.970 --> 24:34.042 Like how you're mentioning Rick, how it's 24:34.066 --> 24:37.712 Devereux. He gives the, the punks the tickets to the, the, 24:37.906 --> 24:41.316 the haunted attraction, and he's like, and one of the guys is 24:41.348 --> 24:45.280 like, maybe we will, maybe we won't. Why can't you get with the 20th century? 24:45.860 --> 24:49.788 What? Well, I mean, 24:49.884 --> 24:53.516 Hanna Barbera, that's the way they think that a motorcycle gang would react. 24:53.628 --> 24:57.212 So there you go. Well, 1978, 24:57.236 --> 25:00.956 they might have. What does the girl say every time? She's like, she's like, 25:01.068 --> 25:04.000 this won't happen unless we mean for it to happen. 25:06.970 --> 25:10.430 Oh. So at this point, 25:11.010 --> 25:14.282 we haven't really gotten to where they get 25:14.306 --> 25:18.242 to the, to the thrill, the chamber of thrills just yet, because Melissa's 25:18.266 --> 25:21.282 going around looking for Sam because now he's missing. Dude's been gone for, 25:21.306 --> 25:25.642 like, 15 minutes, and now he's already on the missing persons list in 25:25.666 --> 25:29.826 a, in a park that he works in. So even 25:29.858 --> 25:33.206 as a kid, I would go, well, if he works 25:33.238 --> 25:36.050 here, how do you know he's missing? 25:38.150 --> 25:41.638 Yeah, it's like they called in the cavalry, like 15 minutes after he's gone. 25:41.694 --> 25:44.830 Like, Amy Lynn Bradley didn't even get that much time. They took her, like, 25:44.870 --> 25:48.478 two, two or three days thereport her missing. This guy. This guy's probably on 25:48.494 --> 25:52.450 his lunch break. They reported Missy. It's. This is, 25:53.230 --> 25:57.022 this is where you get to start seeing people acting like robots, because she shows 25:57.046 --> 26:00.822