1 00:00:00,355 --> 00:00:04,803 Hello everyone and welcome back to Bikinis After Babies. 2 00:00:04,803 --> 00:00:07,828 I am so excited for this 17th episode. 3 00:00:07,910 --> 00:00:12,658 I am one of your hosts, mandy Rochon here with your other beautiful blonde host. 4 00:00:12,845 --> 00:00:16,205 Hey everybody, thank you so much for tuning in today. 5 00:00:16,285 --> 00:00:20,647 I'm one of your hosts, Gillian Hughes, and we have a very special guest on our show 6 00:00:20,647 --> 00:00:21,107 today. 7 00:00:21,107 --> 00:00:23,907 I am so excited to have her on. 8 00:00:23,967 --> 00:00:26,448 Our guest today is Jessica Miller. 9 00:00:26,448 --> 00:00:29,749 She is an IFBB Bikini Pro from Florida. 10 00:00:29,749 --> 00:00:33,830 She's a mother of two girls, ages eight and 10, and she's been competing for 10 11 00:00:33,830 --> 00:00:34,750 years. 12 00:00:34,750 --> 00:00:38,911 Jessica gives back to our industry regularly, working shows and seminars, and 13 00:00:38,911 --> 00:00:42,912 she helps others in her career as a posing coach and lifestyle coach. 14 00:00:42,933 --> 00:00:48,339 Jessica earned her IFBB Bikini Pro Card in 2021 after several years on the national 15 00:00:48,339 --> 00:00:52,704 circuit, and now she is a regular on the IFBB Bikini stage. 16 00:00:52,704 --> 00:00:54,927 I'm so excited to have her on the show today. 17 00:00:54,927 --> 00:00:57,830 Welcome to Bikini's After Babies, Jessica Miller. 18 00:00:57,830 --> 00:00:58,732 Yay! 19 00:00:58,732 --> 00:00:59,233 you! 20 00:00:59,233 --> 00:01:00,335 Thank you for having me! 21 00:01:00,335 --> 00:01:02,138 I'm so excited! 22 00:01:02,433 --> 00:01:03,895 Thanks for coming on. 23 00:01:03,895 --> 00:01:07,703 I mean, there's so many things I want to dive into today, but I always kind of like 24 00:01:07,703 --> 00:01:11,310 to begin by having you share with our audience how it is you got started 25 00:01:11,310 --> 00:01:12,331 competing. 26 00:01:13,549 --> 00:01:15,290 Ooh, that's a good one. 27 00:01:15,771 --> 00:01:22,356 I grew up basically, I lost my dad when I was very young and the gym had always been 28 00:01:22,356 --> 00:01:24,978 a huge outlet for me. 29 00:01:24,978 --> 00:01:27,540 I played soccer, so that was huge. 30 00:01:27,540 --> 00:01:35,006 I ran track all the way up through college and I ended up getting married very young 31 00:01:35,006 --> 00:01:40,811 and having a baby very young and it didn't quite work out for me. 32 00:01:40,811 --> 00:01:42,892 So I figured 33 00:01:42,905 --> 00:01:49,332 right off the bat, you know, coming out of a heartbroken relationship that I was 34 00:01:49,332 --> 00:01:50,453 gonna compete. 35 00:01:50,614 --> 00:01:52,536 And I was finally just gonna do it. 36 00:01:52,536 --> 00:01:58,323 So eight months postpartum, I stepped on stage and I fell in love with the sport. 37 00:01:58,323 --> 00:01:59,724 Ha ha ha. 38 00:02:00,131 --> 00:02:02,896 That's incredible, eight months postpartum. 39 00:02:03,461 --> 00:02:05,885 Yes, I literally was still breastfeeding. 40 00:02:05,885 --> 00:02:08,912 So I'm not joking you. 41 00:02:08,912 --> 00:02:13,780 I literally was like, she can't eat right now until after I go on stage. 42 00:02:15,156 --> 00:02:16,557 Oh my gosh. 43 00:02:16,557 --> 00:02:23,403 Do you think it was like, it's almost like you don't know, right? 44 00:02:23,403 --> 00:02:27,066 If you're brand new, you don't know like really any other experience. 45 00:02:27,066 --> 00:02:30,069 So you're probably just like, why can't I sure no problem, right? 46 00:02:30,069 --> 00:02:31,570 That's amazing. 47 00:02:31,570 --> 00:02:35,173 Did you kind of like use the prep to sort of like get yourself into like a really 48 00:02:35,173 --> 00:02:38,136 good routine or did you stay really in shape during your pregnancy or what was 49 00:02:38,136 --> 00:02:39,016 that like? 50 00:02:40,073 --> 00:02:46,336 I definitely, definitely use it as to get like, you know, my body back, my, my 51 00:02:46,336 --> 00:02:48,717 confidence back for sure. 52 00:02:48,957 --> 00:02:52,739 Um, so where I went to the gym, you know, they had kid care. 53 00:02:52,739 --> 00:02:58,062 So I would bring my kids with me and they would stay in kids care and I would go do 54 00:02:58,062 --> 00:03:01,104 cardio and then come back, breastfeed, and then I would go lift. 55 00:03:01,104 --> 00:03:04,586 And I mean, it was just, it was routine. 56 00:03:04,586 --> 00:03:07,667 And you know, I fell in love with the whole journey. 57 00:03:07,987 --> 00:03:09,908 Um, my body changing. 58 00:03:11,357 --> 00:03:16,620 Posing was very different back then, but definitely fell in love with that part. 59 00:03:16,940 --> 00:03:24,144 Just about everything that came with it, I just, my passion just exploded for it. 60 00:03:24,144 --> 00:03:32,029 And I ended up almost, I basically got qualified and I wanted to go to nationals. 61 00:03:32,409 --> 00:03:34,930 I ended up finding out that I was pregnant again. 62 00:03:35,091 --> 00:03:38,192 So I, yeah, so I... 63 00:03:38,841 --> 00:03:42,943 I waited to compete again about two years after I had my second one this time. 64 00:03:43,344 --> 00:03:48,647 Because I had such a little, I had like a three year old, you know, and then I had a 65 00:03:48,647 --> 00:03:49,128 baby. 66 00:03:49,128 --> 00:03:52,870 So I wanted to make sure the next time I did it, I was going to get on a national 67 00:03:52,870 --> 00:03:54,391 stage and get my pro card. 68 00:03:54,591 --> 00:03:59,134 But it did get a lot harder as the years went by. 69 00:03:59,495 --> 00:04:03,658 So it was, it was definitely a journey for me. 70 00:04:03,658 --> 00:04:08,100 And it was one I will always cherish. 71 00:04:08,165 --> 00:04:12,458 And now looking back, I'm like, man, I wish I could kind of, I would have 72 00:04:12,458 --> 00:04:14,944 cherished it more back then. 73 00:04:15,629 --> 00:04:16,709 Yeah, totally. 74 00:04:16,709 --> 00:04:21,392 I mean that like journey to the pro card, like I took a look at all the shows that 75 00:04:21,392 --> 00:04:24,994 you had done and it was just like qualifier, pro qualifier. 76 00:04:24,994 --> 00:04:28,357 Like, you know, when you're on that hunt for that pro card, it's so easy to just 77 00:04:28,357 --> 00:04:32,819 sort of like you're just on a mission and you don't always just like take it in and 78 00:04:32,819 --> 00:04:34,701 just go, wow, like it's so cool to be a part of it. 79 00:04:34,701 --> 00:04:39,844 But how many years on the national circuit did it take you to like, eventually get 80 00:04:39,844 --> 00:04:40,804 your pro card? 81 00:04:41,254 --> 00:04:42,995 I think it was four. 82 00:04:43,075 --> 00:04:47,879 So I kept going into these shows and I would win the overalls. 83 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:49,220 I would win. 84 00:04:49,461 --> 00:04:52,343 So I was like, okay, I'm ready for the national stage. 85 00:04:52,343 --> 00:04:57,748 And then I would go to the national stage and I would either be top six. 86 00:04:57,748 --> 00:04:59,350 I'd be in first call-outs every time. 87 00:04:59,350 --> 00:05:01,331 I'd be in top six or top five. 88 00:05:01,331 --> 00:05:06,736 And the problem was is, you know, I just, for some reason, I couldn't get my quads 89 00:05:06,736 --> 00:05:07,429 down. 90 00:05:07,429 --> 00:05:11,612 I just couldn't and a lot of it I had to learn was also my posing. 91 00:05:12,753 --> 00:05:17,317 So you know I was with a very small town coach here. 92 00:05:17,317 --> 00:05:19,799 I wasn't with like a big name or anything. 93 00:05:19,799 --> 00:05:24,462 You know a lot of what I have learned was through my own experience and doing 94 00:05:24,462 --> 00:05:32,288 research myself and really listening to podcasts or YouTubes and watching. 95 00:05:32,357 --> 00:05:37,218 you know, other pros or other amateurs and how they pose and what they were doing and 96 00:05:37,218 --> 00:05:38,599 trying them out on myself. 97 00:05:38,599 --> 00:05:45,362 So you know, it did take me a lot longer than what it probably does other people, 98 00:05:45,362 --> 00:05:52,424 but I'm so happy that it did because I learned so much through the process. 99 00:05:53,125 --> 00:05:57,887 And without that, I think just being told what to do, I wouldn't have learned as 100 00:05:57,887 --> 00:06:02,348 much as now I know because I actually went through it myself. 101 00:06:03,433 --> 00:06:04,824 Yeah, absolutely. 102 00:06:04,824 --> 00:06:06,087 always the judges feedback? 103 00:06:06,087 --> 00:06:08,994 So like always like you got top six, you're so close. 104 00:06:08,994 --> 00:06:11,960 And then when you get judges feedback, it would always be like the quads and the 105 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,863 posing and you just always. 106 00:06:14,078 --> 00:06:15,179 It was always for me. 107 00:06:15,179 --> 00:06:16,540 I never had an upper body. 108 00:06:16,540 --> 00:06:20,503 I was soccer player and track runner all my life. 109 00:06:20,503 --> 00:06:25,267 So my legs were very dominant compared to my upper body. 110 00:06:25,267 --> 00:06:32,032 And so I definitely had to work for years to get my upper body proportionate. 111 00:06:32,492 --> 00:06:37,636 And so it definitely was a struggle for me for sure, for sure. 112 00:06:38,176 --> 00:06:42,279 Yeah, I grew up playing soccer and I was a defender and so I could sprint. 113 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:48,164 So back a long time ago when bikini competitors were skinnier and you had to 114 00:06:48,164 --> 00:06:51,947 do all the sprinting and the high, a lot of HIIT workouts, I'm like, oh, I can do 115 00:06:51,947 --> 00:06:53,108 that all day. 116 00:06:53,128 --> 00:06:55,670 And so it would always be easy for me to do that. 117 00:06:55,670 --> 00:07:00,774 And it's funny looking back on it, because when I was in school, having big legs was 118 00:07:00,874 --> 00:07:01,635 a no. 119 00:07:01,635 --> 00:07:04,537 And now I'm like, no, now look at it, this is awesome. 120 00:07:04,537 --> 00:07:05,073 Now. 121 00:07:05,073 --> 00:07:06,313 They made fun of me. 122 00:07:06,313 --> 00:07:10,695 I mean, even the guys would like come up to me and be like, girl, you thick. 123 00:07:10,695 --> 00:07:14,136 Or they'd be like, girl, your legs bigger than mine. 124 00:07:14,213 --> 00:07:19,244 like is this like a compliment or not because I don't know if it is. 125 00:07:20,003 --> 00:07:21,723 I remember that it was like that in school too. 126 00:07:21,723 --> 00:07:26,325 Like if I wore like a denim skirt or like shorts, my legs were so much thicker from 127 00:07:26,325 --> 00:07:28,366 just like playing soccer. 128 00:07:28,426 --> 00:07:30,987 And I would have like these backhanded comments. 129 00:07:30,987 --> 00:07:32,268 And I'm like, okay. 130 00:07:32,268 --> 00:07:36,269 And so I like, wasn't sure if it was good or bad or I could never fit in the jeans. 131 00:07:36,269 --> 00:07:38,810 But now it's like, yeah, I win. 132 00:07:38,810 --> 00:07:39,411 I win now. 133 00:07:39,411 --> 00:07:46,433 Yeah, right. 134 00:07:46,433 --> 00:07:48,194 Oh yeah, I can imagine. 135 00:07:49,057 --> 00:07:50,617 Totally. 136 00:07:50,617 --> 00:07:54,699 So what do you think was like the thing that like tipped you over from like being 137 00:07:54,699 --> 00:07:59,602 in that like bridesmaids spot to like actually, you know, becoming a pro? 138 00:07:59,602 --> 00:08:01,923 Like was it like you said, doing your own research? 139 00:08:01,923 --> 00:08:05,585 Was there like a coaching change or like what was it because it feels like you 140 00:08:05,585 --> 00:08:10,348 know, when you finally got there, it was, you know, it was like you were a sure 141 00:08:10,348 --> 00:08:11,528 first place win. 142 00:08:14,281 --> 00:08:17,407 Like, do you mean like winning my pro card? 143 00:08:17,407 --> 00:08:22,253 Like, like, like rephrase that for me so I can explain. 144 00:08:22,253 --> 00:08:27,897 into 2021, like of course we had a typical year, you know, I'm sure a lot of people 145 00:08:27,897 --> 00:08:31,319 that were maybe in 2019 thinking, okay, I didn't get it this year. 146 00:08:31,319 --> 00:08:33,341 Like next year is going to be my year. 147 00:08:33,341 --> 00:08:38,985 Like was there something, you know, in your training or yeah. 148 00:08:38,985 --> 00:08:43,087 I had gone through so many years where it was like, okay, I've literally fixed 149 00:08:43,087 --> 00:08:45,367 everything that the judges want to see. 150 00:08:46,348 --> 00:09:02,724 I think now getting a little personal, 151 00:09:02,724 --> 00:09:08,186 So I was in a very, very bad relationship for a long time. 152 00:09:08,186 --> 00:09:11,067 And I think I just was over it. 153 00:09:11,127 --> 00:09:18,010 And that person really hurt my ego, would say really terrible things to me. 154 00:09:18,870 --> 00:09:25,313 And I think I wanted to prove that person wrong so much to the point where I was 155 00:09:25,313 --> 00:09:28,834 like, okay, you say I can't, watch me. 156 00:09:30,615 --> 00:09:31,135 I... 157 00:09:31,636 --> 00:09:38,720 Ever since I was little, just the way I grew up, I think I thrive off of people 158 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,320 who don't believe in me. 159 00:09:40,401 --> 00:09:45,063 And that might not be the best thing, but sometimes you can utilize that pain and 160 00:09:45,143 --> 00:09:47,364 really go after everything that you want. 161 00:09:47,985 --> 00:09:50,606 And I had learned to do that. 162 00:09:50,606 --> 00:09:55,129 So I think that year I was like, oh, I'm gonna be in your face about it. 163 00:09:55,129 --> 00:09:56,290 Like, I'm not gonna stop. 164 00:09:56,290 --> 00:09:58,691 You say no to me, I'm gonna show up again. 165 00:09:58,911 --> 00:09:59,771 Because... 166 00:10:00,012 --> 00:10:02,778 at some point you're gonna be undeniable, right? 167 00:10:02,778 --> 00:10:08,270 So I just believed in myself enough to say, you know what, girl, you got this. 168 00:10:08,270 --> 00:10:10,855 And I felt it on stage. 169 00:10:12,831 --> 00:10:16,206 I just got chills you saying that like oh like 170 00:10:16,206 --> 00:10:19,827 and anybody who's listening that has had that experience of coming so close and 171 00:10:19,827 --> 00:10:22,308 just feeling like, you know, it isn't going to happen. 172 00:10:22,308 --> 00:10:25,489 You know, you just have to believe that your time will come and you know, when 173 00:10:25,489 --> 00:10:29,051 people say that all the time, like they knew it, like, did you have that sense of 174 00:10:29,051 --> 00:10:29,811 like, this is it? 175 00:10:29,811 --> 00:10:31,811 Like, I've done everything I can do. 176 00:10:31,811 --> 00:10:32,512 It is my time. 177 00:10:32,512 --> 00:10:34,572 Like, did you know before they called your name? 178 00:10:36,152 --> 00:10:37,032 I knew it. 179 00:10:37,032 --> 00:10:37,893 I knew it. 180 00:10:37,893 --> 00:10:38,773 I woke up. 181 00:10:38,773 --> 00:10:40,174 I peeked perfectly. 182 00:10:40,174 --> 00:10:42,715 My makeup was done beautifully. 183 00:10:42,715 --> 00:10:46,857 Everything was just so smooth and on point. 184 00:10:46,918 --> 00:10:51,660 Um, I just, I felt it in my soul. 185 00:10:52,781 --> 00:10:56,563 I went on stage and I was not nervous at all. 186 00:10:56,903 --> 00:10:58,384 I was not nervous. 187 00:10:58,464 --> 00:11:00,084 I did not stumble. 188 00:11:00,165 --> 00:11:04,327 I just, I knew at that point I was like, this is it for me. 189 00:11:04,327 --> 00:11:05,240 Like, I'm... 190 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,721 this is gonna be it, I'm gonna do this. 191 00:11:08,161 --> 00:11:15,165 And I think my first pro year, that same thing happened as show to show to show. 192 00:11:15,165 --> 00:11:18,667 I think I just couldn't, I kept getting better and better and better until the 193 00:11:18,667 --> 00:11:19,467 end. 194 00:11:19,487 --> 00:11:21,328 I think it was my sixth show that I did. 195 00:11:21,328 --> 00:11:23,209 I did six shows that year. 196 00:11:23,530 --> 00:11:26,471 And I just kept moving up. 197 00:11:26,471 --> 00:11:29,813 And I think everything really is a learning experience. 198 00:11:29,813 --> 00:11:34,635 And again, you're also gonna get in front of different judges that, 199 00:11:34,696 --> 00:11:36,076 are subjective to your look. 200 00:11:36,076 --> 00:11:37,517 It just is what it is. 201 00:11:37,517 --> 00:11:41,938 And you've got to learn on your own who likes my look. 202 00:11:41,938 --> 00:11:43,379 Who likes my look? 203 00:11:43,379 --> 00:11:45,119 How am I coming in? 204 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:47,380 Are you gonna come in harder? 205 00:11:47,380 --> 00:11:49,101 Are you gonna come in softer? 206 00:11:49,361 --> 00:11:51,822 For different judges, you gotta kinda appear different. 207 00:11:51,822 --> 00:11:57,043 So I think learning that up to that point, I was like, okay, this is my type. 208 00:11:57,741 --> 00:11:59,120 I think that's so interesting. 209 00:11:59,120 --> 00:11:59,801 doing- 210 00:11:59,863 --> 00:12:04,344 doing as much as you did, like learning it yourself, doing your own research, 211 00:12:04,344 --> 00:12:05,105 figuring it out yourself. 212 00:12:05,105 --> 00:12:08,346 Like if somebody gave you those answers and somebody told you what to do, do you 213 00:12:08,346 --> 00:12:12,748 think you'd be as like good as you are now and as like polished as you are now and 214 00:12:12,748 --> 00:12:17,990 have all the experience, you know, going through that grind, you just get so much 215 00:12:17,990 --> 00:12:18,770 out of it. 216 00:12:18,770 --> 00:12:22,052 And it's like, yeah, there's like some blood, sweat and tears that go into it, 217 00:12:22,052 --> 00:12:26,374 but like what you learn is just, like you said, it's undeniable. 218 00:12:26,374 --> 00:12:28,454 Like you gain so much out of it. 219 00:12:28,730 --> 00:12:30,471 Yeah, it tastes so much better. 220 00:12:30,471 --> 00:12:32,511 And you know, you never understand. 221 00:12:32,652 --> 00:12:36,635 You always question, you know, why, why can't, why isn't this happening for me? 222 00:12:36,635 --> 00:12:38,857 Or why is this happening to me, right? 223 00:12:38,857 --> 00:12:44,982 And the thing is, you know, I am a high believer in the Lord, and then I will tell 224 00:12:44,982 --> 00:12:48,605 you, you know, he's either trying to redirect you or he's protecting you. 225 00:12:48,605 --> 00:12:55,711 So, you know, I do believe that if it's meant to be and it's your time, then it 226 00:12:55,711 --> 00:12:56,471 will. 227 00:12:56,771 --> 00:13:00,515 And if it's not, then there is other reasons as to why. 228 00:13:00,515 --> 00:13:02,155 You just haven't found out yet. 229 00:13:04,949 --> 00:13:06,549 I love that. 230 00:13:06,549 --> 00:13:12,352 So I want to go back to something that you said, because this is something that we 231 00:13:12,352 --> 00:13:15,654 understand pretty well, Mandy and I having been in the sport for a while. 232 00:13:15,654 --> 00:13:19,775 But for some of our newer competitors that are listening into the podcast, can you 233 00:13:19,775 --> 00:13:26,298 explain from a pros perspective what it means by maybe being in front of a panel 234 00:13:26,298 --> 00:13:27,939 of judges that like your look? 235 00:13:27,939 --> 00:13:30,160 I think that's really hard for people to sort of grasp. 236 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:31,881 We understand it, it is what it is. 237 00:13:31,881 --> 00:13:33,542 We know it's subjective sport. 238 00:13:33,542 --> 00:13:34,883 We understand how the scoring works. 239 00:13:34,883 --> 00:13:39,017 but if you could sort of talk about that a little bit to give our listeners some 240 00:13:39,017 --> 00:13:40,099 context. 241 00:13:40,552 --> 00:13:45,294 Yeah, I mean, honestly, as your physique changes, right, each... 242 00:13:45,834 --> 00:13:49,997 I will say as your physique changes, each prep is going to change for you. 243 00:13:49,997 --> 00:13:52,578 The way you look on stage is going to change for you. 244 00:13:53,459 --> 00:13:59,002 So, you know, you're going to have some judges who like a dark hair look. 245 00:13:59,002 --> 00:14:06,466 They like that dark hair and they like a more muscular, dense, harder look. 246 00:14:07,286 --> 00:14:09,652 Then you're going to have some that... 247 00:14:09,652 --> 00:14:14,495 like a softer look, which is not as much muscle. 248 00:14:15,976 --> 00:14:21,099 And then you're gonna have, most of the judges do light conditioning. 249 00:14:21,099 --> 00:14:26,563 If your conditioning is right off the bat, most of them are not gonna be okay with 250 00:14:26,563 --> 00:14:27,283 that. 251 00:14:27,624 --> 00:14:28,665 This is bodybuilding. 252 00:14:28,665 --> 00:14:36,009 So, but at the end of the day, you do have to figure out, are they gonna go for that 253 00:14:36,270 --> 00:14:38,911 blonde look with the softer look? 254 00:14:38,944 --> 00:14:45,626 and not as much muscle or are they looking for that dark horse with more muscle and a 255 00:14:45,626 --> 00:14:46,867 harder look? 256 00:14:46,947 --> 00:14:54,150 And I also think, you know, it really depends on who is winning the Olympia and 257 00:14:54,150 --> 00:14:58,232 the Arnold setting the standard each year that sets the standard. 258 00:14:58,232 --> 00:15:03,834 Now obviously, you know, Tyler Mannion goes over what they want to see, you know, 259 00:15:03,834 --> 00:15:06,335 that's we know that. 260 00:15:07,355 --> 00:15:08,115 But 261 00:15:09,024 --> 00:15:14,369 Regardless, you're still gonna have judges who have a specific look that they like 262 00:15:14,369 --> 00:15:15,710 over other looks. 263 00:15:15,710 --> 00:15:20,855 So you do have to figure that out for yourself on who seems to like your look 264 00:15:20,855 --> 00:15:21,615 better. 265 00:15:22,402 --> 00:15:23,175 Mm-hmm. 266 00:15:24,381 --> 00:15:28,822 It makes our sport so exciting, because you just never know who's gonna win. 267 00:15:28,823 --> 00:15:32,925 But for people who are like, they wanna predict the outcome, they probably just 268 00:15:32,925 --> 00:15:36,106 need to pick a different sport for themselves because you just can't. 269 00:15:36,206 --> 00:15:39,928 And that's why I think it's so important to lean into what you said about really 270 00:15:39,928 --> 00:15:44,390 enjoying the journey and the experience and taking a lot from it, because you 271 00:15:44,390 --> 00:15:46,011 can't always guarantee the outcome. 272 00:15:46,011 --> 00:15:47,431 You don't always win. 273 00:15:47,431 --> 00:15:50,193 You don't take home the pro card every single time you try. 274 00:15:50,193 --> 00:15:53,714 And so you're gonna miss out on all the lessons and all the growth 275 00:15:54,435 --> 00:15:57,556 on winning because I mean I'll have clients that are brand new and I'm very 276 00:15:57,556 --> 00:16:00,478 competitive I like have to win I'm like you might want to pick something else 277 00:16:00,478 --> 00:16:05,501 because I can't guarantee I mean everybody brings it everybody's bringing their best 278 00:16:05,501 --> 00:16:10,380 and you just don't know so but for girls who've been in a long time you know. 279 00:16:10,380 --> 00:16:13,361 it could be the smallest thing, what people don't really realize. 280 00:16:13,361 --> 00:16:16,102 It could be your tan is off that day. 281 00:16:16,102 --> 00:16:20,363 It could be that your makeup artist didn't do your makeup correctly to match your 282 00:16:20,363 --> 00:16:21,324 tan. 283 00:16:21,324 --> 00:16:21,664 Right. 284 00:16:21,664 --> 00:16:29,086 It could be that you accidentally dropped your food on the floor. 285 00:16:29,086 --> 00:16:31,407 It could be that you didn't have enough time to pump up. 286 00:16:31,407 --> 00:16:33,747 I mean, it is literally... 287 00:16:34,756 --> 00:16:38,559 There is so many factors to how you show up on stage. 288 00:16:39,100 --> 00:16:44,867 And those are the things that people don't really understand unless you do it. 289 00:16:44,867 --> 00:16:45,567 So. 290 00:16:49,008 --> 00:16:52,089 Yes, that was what I was gonna segue into next is posing. 291 00:16:52,089 --> 00:16:56,671 I was like, oh, this goes right into posing because I feel like, you know, so 292 00:16:56,671 --> 00:16:59,713 many of our clients, again, new clients, and then even experienced clients that 293 00:16:59,713 --> 00:17:02,914 have been on the stage multiple times, like the biggest struggle they have is 294 00:17:02,914 --> 00:17:03,615 posing. 295 00:17:03,615 --> 00:17:06,396 People can go to the gym, you know, you get in the habit of meal prepping and like 296 00:17:06,396 --> 00:17:10,158 your nutrition, but when it comes to like posing, it just seems like for some reason 297 00:17:10,158 --> 00:17:14,420 that is, it is so hard to put on that heels and practice at home or practice at 298 00:17:14,420 --> 00:17:16,500 the gym or record yourself 299 00:17:16,601 --> 00:17:18,445 or watch yourself do it. 300 00:17:18,445 --> 00:17:22,773 So what advice would you give to new competitors or seasoned competitors to 301 00:17:22,773 --> 00:17:25,697 help them with posing? 302 00:17:25,860 --> 00:17:29,841 Well, I'll tell you guys the same thing that I tell my posing clients, right? 303 00:17:29,841 --> 00:17:34,542 You need to start early because posing is an illusion to the judges. 304 00:17:35,142 --> 00:17:39,844 I have seen multiple people not have the best physique and win because of their 305 00:17:39,844 --> 00:17:40,744 posing. 306 00:17:40,924 --> 00:17:46,906 So you know, I think a lot of girls go, oh yeah, I wear heels all the time. 307 00:17:46,906 --> 00:17:48,386 It's not the same thing. 308 00:17:48,386 --> 00:17:50,186 It is not the same thing. 309 00:17:51,067 --> 00:17:54,427 So walking in the heels. 310 00:17:54,500 --> 00:18:02,606 how you're transitioning with your hands and your feet and are you smiling? 311 00:18:02,606 --> 00:18:04,988 Is your face off? 312 00:18:04,988 --> 00:18:11,093 Is your, it's literally performing and dancing on stage. 313 00:18:11,353 --> 00:18:16,958 And so I would say just walking in your shoes is huge. 314 00:18:16,958 --> 00:18:22,222 So making sure three months prior to your show, four months prior, you're breaking 315 00:18:22,222 --> 00:18:24,003 in your shoes because 316 00:18:24,260 --> 00:18:26,962 They're not always the most comfortable. 317 00:18:26,962 --> 00:18:34,889 And again, as we, you know, on stage day, you know, we're oiled up, our feet are 318 00:18:34,889 --> 00:18:41,775 slipping, we're tanned, as we lose weight, it's so crazy, I lose it in my feet too. 319 00:18:41,815 --> 00:18:44,357 I don't know if you guys do, but I do too. 320 00:18:44,718 --> 00:18:50,523 And yeah, so things you don't really think about, right? 321 00:18:50,523 --> 00:18:51,203 So. 322 00:18:51,948 --> 00:18:56,530 You wanna do as much as you can prior to that stage day so you're already ready. 323 00:18:56,530 --> 00:19:00,571 So what I tell a lot of my clients and what I'll have them do is get your 324 00:19:00,571 --> 00:19:05,553 jewelry, put on your jewelry, put your hair down, get on a bikini, walk in your 325 00:19:05,553 --> 00:19:11,736 shoes, act like it's stage day because if you do not and you don't throw that sass, 326 00:19:11,836 --> 00:19:15,537 they don't think about, oh, I have to throw my hair back so it's not stuck on my 327 00:19:15,537 --> 00:19:20,639 triceps and so that they can see my body correctly 328 00:19:20,639 --> 00:19:21,156 Mm-hmm. 329 00:19:21,156 --> 00:19:25,139 oh, when I'm turning or when I'm walking out, I have to put my hair off my 330 00:19:25,139 --> 00:19:25,800 shoulder. 331 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,822 You know, it's those little things that you're not thinking, oh, my earrings are 332 00:19:28,822 --> 00:19:31,064 dangled, so it can't get stuck in my hair. 333 00:19:31,264 --> 00:19:33,706 It's all the little things. 334 00:19:33,706 --> 00:19:35,928 And then when I make them do it, they go, oh my goodness. 335 00:19:35,928 --> 00:19:37,229 And I said, yes. 336 00:19:37,229 --> 00:19:39,871 So we don't want that to happen on stage day, right? 337 00:19:39,871 --> 00:19:45,095 So we wanna make sure that you know what to do if that does. 338 00:19:45,727 --> 00:19:46,347 Yeah. 339 00:19:46,347 --> 00:19:49,749 And to feel that comfortable on stage to like move if something happens. 340 00:19:49,749 --> 00:19:53,371 Because what if your hair like even though you practice and practice what if your 341 00:19:53,371 --> 00:19:58,573 hair does it falls and like if you're so nervous and so stiff, like, you're not 342 00:19:58,573 --> 00:20:00,534 going to be like, Oh, I need to move that. 343 00:20:00,534 --> 00:20:04,796 But if you do that, like that fluidity, it's like, it's natural. 344 00:20:04,796 --> 00:20:08,834 And the judges like look at it naturally instead of like robotic. 345 00:20:08,834 --> 00:20:09,139 Yes. 346 00:20:09,139 --> 00:20:13,565 forget to and it hides your, like imagine like, okay, you work so hard and because 347 00:20:13,565 --> 00:20:15,668 you're so stiff, you forget to do that. 348 00:20:15,668 --> 00:20:18,792 Something so minor could like be such a big deal. 349 00:20:18,856 --> 00:20:19,797 that's a big deal. 350 00:20:19,797 --> 00:20:26,159 And on top of it, you know, a lot of new athletes, you tend to kind of go blank and 351 00:20:26,159 --> 00:20:27,700 you freeze sometimes. 352 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:33,823 You know, so if you've done it enough, it becomes routine on stage. 353 00:20:33,823 --> 00:20:38,065 And if you do blackout, you still end up doing your routine without even thinking 354 00:20:38,065 --> 00:20:42,247 about it because it's now routine to you. 355 00:20:42,247 --> 00:20:44,747 So on stage, no matter what, you're like, oh. 356 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,088 I just hit that and I didn't even understand that I hit that, you know? 357 00:20:48,391 --> 00:20:49,855 So it's a good thing. 358 00:20:49,855 --> 00:20:51,599 You gotta be a robot, man. 359 00:20:51,933 --> 00:20:54,816 You like walk down the other side and you're like, what happened? 360 00:20:54,937 --> 00:20:55,757 Yeah. 361 00:20:55,778 --> 00:20:58,121 Or you watch your video and you're like, I don't even remember that happening. 362 00:20:58,121 --> 00:21:00,683 Like, you're like, oh wait, I'm done already. 363 00:21:01,473 --> 00:21:04,034 Well, I have always loved watching all of your posing. 364 00:21:04,034 --> 00:21:07,775 Like I have several of your posing videos saved that I like will like use for 365 00:21:07,775 --> 00:21:09,056 inspiration. 366 00:21:09,276 --> 00:21:12,598 And I think like my favorite thing about watching your pose is you just look like 367 00:21:12,598 --> 00:21:15,179 you're having the time of your life. 368 00:21:15,239 --> 00:21:19,821 And what a lot of moms really struggle with is to be able to like embody that 369 00:21:19,821 --> 00:21:23,903 because it's so different than what they're doing the rest of their life. 370 00:21:23,903 --> 00:21:27,265 You know, they have this one show day where they get to like be so glammed up 371 00:21:27,265 --> 00:21:31,086 and maybe they haven't, you know, had that experience in such a long time. 372 00:21:32,188 --> 00:21:35,853 help somebody get into that and then maybe like some tips on like how you get 373 00:21:35,853 --> 00:21:39,379 yourself into that like you know that groove of just really having so much fun 374 00:21:39,379 --> 00:21:40,179 up there. 375 00:21:41,429 --> 00:21:45,991 Honestly, I'll have my clients put on music sometimes because they will be so 376 00:21:45,991 --> 00:21:48,332 stiff that I'm like, what's your favorite song? 377 00:21:48,653 --> 00:21:49,833 And I put it on. 378 00:21:50,374 --> 00:21:58,078 And I'm like, no, I'm very, I'm a very positive aura. 379 00:21:58,878 --> 00:22:01,100 I am all about fun and laughing. 380 00:22:01,100 --> 00:22:04,101 And I think that is what life is about. 381 00:22:04,501 --> 00:22:08,503 And so if you're not having fun up on that stage. 382 00:22:08,632 --> 00:22:10,853 I promise you those judges are going to see it. 383 00:22:10,953 --> 00:22:16,776 If you're not bringing your style and your personality to stage and you're bringing 384 00:22:16,776 --> 00:22:20,058 mine or somebody else's, those judges are going to see it. 385 00:22:20,058 --> 00:22:24,981 So if you're a bubbly person, bring the bubbly personality to stage. 386 00:22:24,981 --> 00:22:27,782 Don't bring a sexy personality, right? 387 00:22:27,782 --> 00:22:32,385 So if you're sexy, bring a sexy personality, but also you need to tame it 388 00:22:32,385 --> 00:22:36,126 a little because they do like the girl next door, right? 389 00:22:36,207 --> 00:22:37,387 We're not... 390 00:22:38,308 --> 00:22:42,070 dancers if you know what I mean in that way, right? 391 00:22:43,952 --> 00:22:49,076 So, what I mean is it's really important to know your clients and know how their 392 00:22:49,076 --> 00:22:49,897 personality is. 393 00:22:49,897 --> 00:22:52,699 So I generally try to get to know my clients first. 394 00:22:52,699 --> 00:22:55,902 So I'll put on a song and I'm like, ooh, they're not comfortable. 395 00:22:55,902 --> 00:22:59,505 So let's put on like a country song instead, you know? 396 00:22:59,505 --> 00:23:04,929 And I get there, you know, I have to teach them, you know, use your hips, use, this 397 00:23:04,929 --> 00:23:06,130 is like dancing. 398 00:23:06,130 --> 00:23:07,532 You are performing. 399 00:23:07,532 --> 00:23:09,253 You need to be comfortable. 400 00:23:09,314 --> 00:23:13,738 And again, if they are not a sexy person, I'm not gonna try to make them do sexy 401 00:23:13,738 --> 00:23:14,619 transitions. 402 00:23:14,619 --> 00:23:17,683 I'm not gonna try to make them be somebody they're not. 403 00:23:17,683 --> 00:23:23,089 I want them to be themselves on stage so that the judges, they can make eye contact 404 00:23:23,089 --> 00:23:26,187 and really stand out to the judges. 405 00:23:26,187 --> 00:23:27,287 Mm-hmm. 406 00:23:27,287 --> 00:23:28,708 That's so well said. 407 00:23:29,008 --> 00:23:31,850 That is, I could fully relate to that. 408 00:23:31,850 --> 00:23:33,191 I used to try to be sexy. 409 00:23:33,191 --> 00:23:35,432 I used to, I tried so hard. 410 00:23:35,453 --> 00:23:37,574 I did, I was like, I have to be sexy. 411 00:23:37,574 --> 00:23:39,295 Jillian, I've never told you that, but I did. 412 00:23:39,295 --> 00:23:44,038 I used to think I had to be so sexy and I would try this sexy, like, the whole 413 00:23:44,038 --> 00:23:44,398 thing. 414 00:23:44,398 --> 00:23:45,479 Like, I did, 100%. 415 00:23:45,939 --> 00:23:49,581 If you cannot tell, my personality is absolutely not that. 416 00:23:50,322 --> 00:23:50,573 So. 417 00:23:50,573 --> 00:23:51,574 like really pissed off? 418 00:23:51,574 --> 00:23:54,578 Cause like I've seen that before where someone's like, they look mad cause 419 00:23:54,578 --> 00:23:56,679 they're trying to be like sultry. 420 00:23:57,071 --> 00:24:01,112 I tried to make like, because I always smile and I tried to make that sexy and 421 00:24:01,112 --> 00:24:05,154 like my movement and my hip movements and the music and my hand transition. 422 00:24:05,174 --> 00:24:07,896 And I was always so uncomfortable, like always. 423 00:24:07,896 --> 00:24:11,437 And that's actually probably why I never practice posing near as much as I should 424 00:24:11,437 --> 00:24:12,898 have in my early season. 425 00:24:12,918 --> 00:24:18,521 And then like, now, I love it more than anything because I embrace it. 426 00:24:18,521 --> 00:24:23,723 But I think how you explained it is so well for people to understand, be yourself 427 00:24:23,723 --> 00:24:24,503 on stage. 428 00:24:24,503 --> 00:24:26,945 Because if you try to be somebody you're not, then the 429 00:24:26,945 --> 00:24:27,785 going to see that. 430 00:24:27,785 --> 00:24:32,728 And I sometimes see this backstage going on stage is where girls will try so hard 431 00:24:32,728 --> 00:24:37,772 to have completely different hair colors, wigs, different, like be a whole different 432 00:24:37,772 --> 00:24:41,474 person because they think it you know, it's fun or it looks cool. 433 00:24:41,474 --> 00:24:46,057 But what happens is you might be so uncomfortable, you're not gonna like feel 434 00:24:46,057 --> 00:24:46,558 good. 435 00:24:46,558 --> 00:24:49,860 And the whole thing is like you have a whole day where you can be like a princess 436 00:24:49,860 --> 00:24:54,583 and be yourself and like embody like who you are and present that on stage. 437 00:24:54,583 --> 00:24:56,925 But I love I love how you explain that. 438 00:24:56,925 --> 00:24:59,331 so well and using the music is a great idea. 439 00:24:59,331 --> 00:25:00,288 That's super smart. 440 00:25:00,288 --> 00:25:04,351 Yes, it definitely helps, especially clients who have never walked in heels 441 00:25:04,351 --> 00:25:05,171 before. 442 00:25:06,038 --> 00:25:06,881 Hahaha 443 00:25:07,485 --> 00:25:11,006 warming them up and just getting used to it for sure. 444 00:25:11,006 --> 00:25:11,346 Yeah. 445 00:25:11,346 --> 00:25:15,568 And I love how you said that you're just like, you believe in positive energy. 446 00:25:15,568 --> 00:25:19,010 And that's another thing that's like every time I've encountered, like I've run into 447 00:25:19,010 --> 00:25:21,731 you at shows and whatnot, and you've always just been, you're always smiling, 448 00:25:21,731 --> 00:25:23,192 you're always upbeat. 449 00:25:23,192 --> 00:25:28,754 Is that like something that has just been who you are always or like, you know, and 450 00:25:28,754 --> 00:25:31,936 certainly, you know, everyone's gone through stuff in their life and gone 451 00:25:31,936 --> 00:25:32,816 through adversity. 452 00:25:32,816 --> 00:25:36,198 Like how do you stay in that positive mind frame? 453 00:25:38,589 --> 00:25:40,690 Whoo, I have had to work on it. 454 00:25:40,690 --> 00:25:50,115 I think if it wasn't for me getting into like, let's be real toxic relationships. 455 00:25:50,876 --> 00:25:55,517 I think I would have been that way all the time. 456 00:25:55,517 --> 00:25:58,818 I tend to love and I tend to love the wrong people. 457 00:25:58,818 --> 00:26:07,221 So I have learned that through staying in those types of relationships that if 458 00:26:07,221 --> 00:26:11,422 somebody doesn't bring a positive into my life, then they are not meant to be there. 459 00:26:11,422 --> 00:26:15,943 And so I have had to fight all my life to... 460 00:26:16,304 --> 00:26:17,044 uh... 461 00:26:17,044 --> 00:26:21,828 because being a mom as you guys know it's a very stressful chaotic thing to wake up 462 00:26:21,828 --> 00:26:25,431 to every day it's very anxiety-ridden uh... 463 00:26:25,492 --> 00:26:32,037 but i started to change my mindset around i started to when i start to feel like i 464 00:26:32,037 --> 00:26:37,422 am getting anxious i will turn on and i will dance with my kids we do dance 465 00:26:37,422 --> 00:26:44,207 mornings and it's a dance party and we'll do it for a whole song and 466 00:26:44,652 --> 00:26:48,833 It's so amazing because I'll sit back now and I'm trying not to cry. 467 00:26:49,033 --> 00:26:56,717 But like I'll see my kids' personality change and then they're not so chaotic. 468 00:26:56,717 --> 00:26:59,457 They're calm, they're calmer. 469 00:26:59,838 --> 00:27:08,421 And I think how we take things and react to them is huge. 470 00:27:08,441 --> 00:27:13,840 So if your children are not, you know, your children act out through environment. 471 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,060 They're watching you. 472 00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:21,344 So if you engage with them in a different way, they're gonna engage back with you in 473 00:27:21,344 --> 00:27:25,926 a different way, and they're going to learn how to react to things differently. 474 00:27:25,926 --> 00:27:31,690 And the reason I say this is because my 10-year-old is ADHD and she also was ODD. 475 00:27:31,690 --> 00:27:34,911 Now that's environmental, she can grow out of that. 476 00:27:34,911 --> 00:27:37,633 That's a defiant disorder. 477 00:27:37,633 --> 00:27:42,395 And so she has done a lot better, I'd say the last four months. 478 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:48,962 Again, we wake up and we start, there's three things every night before bed that I 479 00:27:48,962 --> 00:27:52,864 ask her what she loves about herself. 480 00:27:53,624 --> 00:27:57,186 And they can be physical or not physical, right? 481 00:27:57,186 --> 00:28:03,249 So I ask her those three things, we talk about those, and then in the morning we go 482 00:28:03,249 --> 00:28:07,370 over the same thing, what are three things that you love about yourself this morning? 483 00:28:08,271 --> 00:28:10,291 And I think those have really helped her. 484 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:15,721 I've done a lot of research and reading and trying to figure out how to take 485 00:28:15,721 --> 00:28:22,003 somebody from being so anxious like a little girl who's 10 to not so anxious and 486 00:28:22,003 --> 00:28:23,143 calming her. 487 00:28:23,303 --> 00:28:28,024 And a lot of the times what we don't realize is they just need love. 488 00:28:29,185 --> 00:28:30,625 They need to feel safe. 489 00:28:31,686 --> 00:28:38,527 So I think, you know, what would I want? 490 00:28:38,808 --> 00:28:41,169 You know, even as an adult, what would I want? 491 00:28:41,169 --> 00:28:43,090 I wanna feel safe, I wanna feel loved. 492 00:28:43,090 --> 00:28:47,754 So being positive is easy for me because that's what I want. 493 00:28:47,754 --> 00:28:51,616 So I'm going to smile at somebody in the gym and not be mean. 494 00:28:52,657 --> 00:28:56,400 You know, regardless if a girl's giving me a dirty look because I'm wearing a sports 495 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,542 bra and shorts, you know, I'm gonna smile at them. 496 00:29:00,542 --> 00:29:04,005 And it's funny because most days those people will come up to me and be like, 497 00:29:04,005 --> 00:29:07,987 there's just this positive aura around you. 498 00:29:08,012 --> 00:29:11,854 You know, you just, you're so intimidating, but in the greatest way, 499 00:29:11,854 --> 00:29:14,396 like, you know, and they're like, you're so nice. 500 00:29:14,396 --> 00:29:18,639 And I'm like, I feel like that's how I'd want somebody else to treat me, so I'm 501 00:29:18,639 --> 00:29:19,839 gonna treat them that. 502 00:29:20,173 --> 00:29:22,662 Yeah, I love that. 503 00:29:22,662 --> 00:29:23,404 like. 504 00:29:23,819 --> 00:29:28,881 Because because you probably are helping so many people and you don't even know is 505 00:29:28,881 --> 00:29:29,421 what's amazing. 506 00:29:29,421 --> 00:29:32,523 Like there's probably people at the gym that see you smile and they're like, you 507 00:29:32,523 --> 00:29:35,604 probably motivate them and you help them go and they feel comfortable. 508 00:29:35,604 --> 00:29:38,365 You're like you're putting that environment out there. 509 00:29:38,365 --> 00:29:40,286 And like you said, like that's what you want. 510 00:29:40,286 --> 00:29:44,668 So you give that back to your kids and like you give that to your environment and 511 00:29:44,668 --> 00:29:47,970 like your space and it's just it's so beautiful. 512 00:29:47,970 --> 00:29:49,851 And I love that for your kids. 513 00:29:49,851 --> 00:29:51,752 That's absolutely amazing. 514 00:29:51,752 --> 00:29:53,853 I think about raising Carson and you know, my 515 00:29:53,853 --> 00:29:55,373 son being 14. 516 00:29:55,394 --> 00:29:58,796 It's like he's go he plays club soccer. 517 00:29:58,796 --> 00:30:01,157 He's been a soccer player since he could kick a ball. 518 00:30:01,157 --> 00:30:04,940 But yeah, he's a good soccer player. 519 00:30:04,940 --> 00:30:06,561 He's a sprinter. 520 00:30:06,961 --> 00:30:11,604 But it's interesting you say like how the environment that you give them because 521 00:30:11,604 --> 00:30:16,288 like I've seen my son like build up anxiety and I can see it and I'm just like 522 00:30:16,288 --> 00:30:19,910 what would I want in this moment and it will be something 523 00:30:23,469 --> 00:30:23,934 Oh yeah. 524 00:30:23,934 --> 00:30:25,831 turning and I it's just 525 00:30:25,831 --> 00:30:28,952 I have this motto to wear for my child. 526 00:30:28,952 --> 00:30:32,774 Like I want to be so reliable that I'm boring. 527 00:30:32,814 --> 00:30:38,036 So I, ever since I have been like had Carson and raised him, I want him to 528 00:30:38,036 --> 00:30:40,337 always know that I will be there. 529 00:30:40,918 --> 00:30:43,639 Like it's not even, like you don't even think about it. 530 00:30:43,639 --> 00:30:46,460 Like if you have something or need something or want something, it's just 531 00:30:46,460 --> 00:30:50,182 like mom, cause I'm so reliable that it's just boring. 532 00:30:50,182 --> 00:30:52,803 And he actually told me like a month ago that I'm boring. 533 00:30:52,803 --> 00:30:55,750 And I was like, oh, that's the best. 534 00:30:55,750 --> 00:30:56,945 I love it! 535 00:30:56,945 --> 00:31:00,408 so excited when he told me, I was like, you don't understand, like that's like the 536 00:31:00,408 --> 00:31:01,729 best compliment. 537 00:31:01,729 --> 00:31:06,112 Because I'm giving this environment to this child so he can nurture and that's so 538 00:31:06,112 --> 00:31:08,914 beautiful that you take the time to do that for your kids. 539 00:31:08,914 --> 00:31:10,113 That is. 540 00:31:10,113 --> 00:31:15,238 what people don't realize is, you know, kids are not free to just do whatever they 541 00:31:15,238 --> 00:31:16,759 want, they need structure. 542 00:31:17,341 --> 00:31:21,565 Kids need structure and that is how they're going to be responsible and 543 00:31:21,565 --> 00:31:24,127 reliable as they continue to grow. 544 00:31:25,117 --> 00:31:25,697 I agree. 545 00:31:25,697 --> 00:31:30,779 And I think like our own structure provides us with more freedom to be able 546 00:31:30,779 --> 00:31:33,420 to give of ourselves to them. 547 00:31:33,460 --> 00:31:37,202 And I say this all the time that like, because you know, I got my workouts done, 548 00:31:37,202 --> 00:31:40,904 I don't have to think about my food, like I'm meal prepped, like my lifestyle as a 549 00:31:40,904 --> 00:31:43,285 bodybuilder is actually really simple. 550 00:31:43,285 --> 00:31:47,607 And so that I have more energy to use for my children. 551 00:31:47,607 --> 00:31:50,949 And I'm not like thinking about, you know, oh, I'm behind, I have to catch up and do 552 00:31:50,949 --> 00:31:52,729 extra cardio, like I'm on target. 553 00:31:52,729 --> 00:31:54,350 I know what I need to do, like I'm 554 00:31:55,151 --> 00:31:56,131 have to think about it. 555 00:31:56,131 --> 00:32:00,292 So I think there is an opposite perception of our lifestyle that it's like so high 556 00:32:00,292 --> 00:32:03,872 maintenance, so much work, but for moms who are doing the sport and crushing it 557 00:32:03,872 --> 00:32:08,533 like yourself, like that structure is just a part of who we are and you know we're 558 00:32:08,533 --> 00:32:12,914 able to you know give to our families and you know we're not really spending all of 559 00:32:12,914 --> 00:32:13,875 our time on ourselves. 560 00:32:13,875 --> 00:32:18,516 We have very dedicated time to the gym but everybody's taken care of because you know 561 00:32:18,516 --> 00:32:22,476 we have our structure that helps us to run you know things smoothly. 562 00:32:23,166 --> 00:32:25,809 Oh, you can find me three places, right? 563 00:32:25,809 --> 00:32:29,591 The gym, the grocery store, or at my house. 564 00:32:29,628 --> 00:32:29,728 Yeah. 565 00:32:29,728 --> 00:32:30,909 It's me too. 566 00:32:31,110 --> 00:32:32,680 Yeah, I know. 567 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,042 that's spot on. 568 00:32:34,886 --> 00:32:35,136 Yeah. 569 00:32:35,136 --> 00:32:38,807 anybody who knows me, they already know where I'm at. 570 00:32:39,549 --> 00:32:40,409 I know. 571 00:32:40,889 --> 00:32:43,870 So I'm gonna dive into a little bit of a juicy topic. 572 00:32:43,870 --> 00:32:50,593 So tell me a little bit about what it's like dating and being a mom and being a 573 00:32:50,593 --> 00:32:54,175 professional athlete and juggling a career, like you've got a lot on your 574 00:32:54,175 --> 00:32:54,935 plate. 575 00:32:54,935 --> 00:32:57,700 So what has that sort of experience been like for you? 576 00:32:57,700 --> 00:32:58,780 Hmm. 577 00:32:58,780 --> 00:33:02,361 Well, I had a seven-year engagement. 578 00:33:02,361 --> 00:33:10,663 I had a fiance and, you know, he basically helped raise my youngest, so he was there 579 00:33:10,823 --> 00:33:13,424 throughout them growing up. 580 00:33:13,424 --> 00:33:16,205 It just, it got too much for him. 581 00:33:16,205 --> 00:33:22,146 What I'm realizing is it is very hard to date as a bikini pro. 582 00:33:23,147 --> 00:33:25,667 Competing itself, really. 583 00:33:26,140 --> 00:33:34,583 Um, you have to find somebody who is very secure with who you are and who they are. 584 00:33:34,983 --> 00:33:39,565 And there is one thing I will definitely say that I have learned is I will not 585 00:33:39,565 --> 00:33:46,088 change what I'm passionate about and who I am for any man. 586 00:33:46,088 --> 00:33:47,189 I will not do it. 587 00:33:47,189 --> 00:33:53,488 I have tried and it makes me very unhappy and I don't think it's fair. 588 00:33:53,488 --> 00:33:56,670 I do think there are certain things that you can change about yourself in the 589 00:33:56,670 --> 00:34:01,953 relationship as long as they change as well and you can grow together, but I 590 00:34:01,953 --> 00:34:06,577 don't think you should have to change everything about yourself to please 591 00:34:06,577 --> 00:34:09,979 somebody else, especially when it's something that you're passionate about. 592 00:34:09,979 --> 00:34:18,885 So dating, I, you know, nowadays, let's just say it, this is the best way I could 593 00:34:18,885 --> 00:34:19,645 say it. 594 00:34:24,292 --> 00:34:27,794 be with other people very easily, right? 595 00:34:27,834 --> 00:34:32,197 In this generation, I'm just, I'm a very old soul. 596 00:34:32,197 --> 00:34:33,437 I am not that way. 597 00:34:33,918 --> 00:34:39,882 And I have purposely not been with very many people and I am proud to say that. 598 00:34:39,882 --> 00:34:47,287 And I have tried to make relationships work, I think because I do have two kids 599 00:34:47,287 --> 00:34:50,750 and I don't wanna bring in multiple people in my kids' lives. 600 00:34:50,750 --> 00:34:53,851 So right now I am, I'm definitely just 601 00:34:54,404 --> 00:34:58,586 worrying about my kids and not dating. 602 00:34:58,586 --> 00:35:05,169 I did have another failed relationship after I left my abusive relationship two 603 00:35:05,169 --> 00:35:07,710 years ago, and that is okay. 604 00:35:08,891 --> 00:35:15,775 I realized really fast, I think, men on the outside, and this is just me speaking 605 00:35:15,775 --> 00:35:20,237 from my experience, they see a very beautiful woman and we're like a trophy, 606 00:35:20,237 --> 00:35:21,058 right? 607 00:35:21,238 --> 00:35:22,459 It's amazing. 608 00:35:22,459 --> 00:35:24,419 They forget to polish the trophy. 609 00:35:24,836 --> 00:35:33,063 And the issues are is that trophy's always going to be a trophy, right? 610 00:35:33,063 --> 00:35:38,887 So I think what tends to happen is they want you to change. 611 00:35:38,887 --> 00:35:43,952 They think that, especially as a pro athlete for me, like my goal is to get to 612 00:35:43,952 --> 00:35:46,513 the Olympia and I'm not going to stop till I do. 613 00:35:46,534 --> 00:35:50,877 So I don't think that they realize how much that takes. 614 00:35:50,877 --> 00:35:52,459 I mean, your life is robotic. 615 00:35:52,459 --> 00:35:53,568 It's structured. 616 00:35:53,568 --> 00:35:58,951 And if you are not somebody who can deal with that, then you definitely should not 617 00:35:58,951 --> 00:36:00,993 be with a pro athlete. 618 00:36:00,993 --> 00:36:03,695 Absolutely not. 619 00:36:03,695 --> 00:36:08,378 Because I'm not somebody who's gonna go out drinking. 620 00:36:08,378 --> 00:36:12,801 I'm not somebody who's gonna skip the gym to go out on your boat. 621 00:36:12,941 --> 00:36:13,762 I'm just not. 622 00:36:13,762 --> 00:36:16,323 I'm gonna go to the gym and then we can go out in the boat. 623 00:36:17,264 --> 00:36:22,627 So what I found with my last relationship, I feel like... 624 00:36:25,153 --> 00:36:29,997 They tend to get jealous because you start climbing, right?, they start seeing you 625 00:36:29,997 --> 00:36:33,739 peek and they want to pull you back. 626 00:36:35,460 --> 00:36:39,241 and change you so that you're not up here. 627 00:36:39,682 --> 00:36:43,364 And I just think that I haven't found my person yet. 628 00:36:43,364 --> 00:36:45,345 I just haven't, and that's okay. 629 00:36:45,345 --> 00:36:46,626 That is okay. 630 00:36:47,546 --> 00:36:52,169 I know that God's timing will be right for me when it's right, and I won't have to 631 00:36:52,169 --> 00:36:55,110 second guess that I'm somebody's person. 632 00:36:55,311 --> 00:36:59,993 So I wanna show that to my kids because it was really heartbreaking going through 633 00:36:59,993 --> 00:37:02,655 what I just went through yet again. 634 00:37:02,735 --> 00:37:03,975 I just feel like... 635 00:37:04,796 --> 00:37:06,462 Men have a hard time. 636 00:37:08,964 --> 00:37:10,745 They have a hard time being loyal. 637 00:37:11,706 --> 00:37:18,771 And that is okay, but not when it comes to what I want in my life. 638 00:37:19,492 --> 00:37:24,316 And if you're not ready, then you should just move along. 639 00:37:25,257 --> 00:37:27,579 My two little girls are watching everything. 640 00:37:27,899 --> 00:37:35,986 And I know that they want me happy, but I also want them to see what true love is. 641 00:37:35,986 --> 00:37:37,987 So that's very important to me. 642 00:37:39,507 --> 00:37:42,406 Yeah, they're always watching that and that's 643 00:37:42,571 --> 00:37:46,752 Like you can go through so much, but the decisions that you make and from how you 644 00:37:46,752 --> 00:37:49,494 explain everything is you're making all those decisions while your little girls 645 00:37:49,494 --> 00:37:54,936 are watching you be like the best version of you and not compromising who you are. 646 00:37:54,976 --> 00:37:59,258 And just because there's another person, another human being that's like, has, you 647 00:37:59,258 --> 00:38:03,840 know, beats you down or has expectations, has like these like lower expectations. 648 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,842 Like they want you to have, you know, kind of demean yourself, you know, to like 649 00:38:07,842 --> 00:38:10,884 lower, to make yourself less than. 650 00:38:10,884 --> 00:38:12,584 But you show your girls, you're like, 651 00:38:13,025 --> 00:38:14,426 No, that's not what you do. 652 00:38:14,426 --> 00:38:15,326 That's not how you do it. 653 00:38:15,326 --> 00:38:18,489 You deserve to be with somebody that truly loves you for who you are and for the work 654 00:38:18,489 --> 00:38:21,730 that you wanna put into this one life that we all live. 655 00:38:21,751 --> 00:38:23,072 And like you're showing them that. 656 00:38:23,072 --> 00:38:25,693 So that person is out there for you. 657 00:38:26,154 --> 00:38:26,794 It is hard. 658 00:38:26,794 --> 00:38:33,078 Like I've been with my husband for 10 years and we've been married for eight, 659 00:38:33,078 --> 00:38:40,903 but I will say I feel like the reason a lot of this we've had success is because 660 00:38:41,204 --> 00:38:42,505 you've kind of touched on it a little. 661 00:38:42,505 --> 00:38:42,845 bit. 662 00:38:42,845 --> 00:38:47,608 I feel like there is it's very hard when you know, like you want to be a pro 663 00:38:47,608 --> 00:38:51,090 athlete, like you know that and the work that goes into that is very different from 664 00:38:51,090 --> 00:38:53,752 like, okay, from amateur to like nationals. 665 00:38:53,752 --> 00:38:57,735 And then from nationals, you're like, No, I know what I want. 666 00:38:57,735 --> 00:39:00,897 And the grind that goes into that. 667 00:39:00,897 --> 00:39:03,879 I feel like the reason my husband and I kind of compliment each other is because 668 00:39:03,879 --> 00:39:06,160 he does the same thing with his own business. 669 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,383 So yeah, he has his own business and his own thing. 670 00:39:09,383 --> 00:39:12,345 So it's like, if I support that he supports me and we can kind 671 00:39:12,345 --> 00:39:13,825 to compliment each other. 672 00:39:14,106 --> 00:39:17,167 And it like we've been able to thrive that way. 673 00:39:17,268 --> 00:39:22,912 And like the jealousy thing is fascinating to me because there's been he has always 674 00:39:22,912 --> 00:39:27,274 respected my gym going he he's always gone to the gym. 675 00:39:27,274 --> 00:39:28,475 He's always known about competitors. 676 00:39:28,475 --> 00:39:30,156 So he's always understood it. 677 00:39:30,156 --> 00:39:33,719 But when we got married and you know, the photo shoots and the sports bras and the 678 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,880 tight, he's always like, No, that's my wife. 679 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:36,721 This is what she does. 680 00:39:36,721 --> 00:39:37,822 This is her business. 681 00:39:37,822 --> 00:39:39,543 This is what she does for work. 682 00:39:39,543 --> 00:39:42,305 But the other guy, but like his friends 683 00:39:42,305 --> 00:39:44,386 be like, I could never. 684 00:39:44,386 --> 00:39:47,009 And he's like, No, this is just what she does. 685 00:39:47,009 --> 00:39:48,830 Like, this is just it. 686 00:39:48,830 --> 00:39:53,314 And it's like, it's been like that our entire relationship. 687 00:39:53,314 --> 00:39:54,675 And I can't. 688 00:39:54,675 --> 00:39:55,595 Thank you. 689 00:39:55,616 --> 00:39:59,419 I can only imagine though, like, dating somebody and having to go through that and 690 00:39:59,419 --> 00:40:02,762 not going to the bars and not going drinking like 691 00:40:03,603 --> 00:40:06,748 Like I have clients that are lifestyle clients and I coach them through like, 692 00:40:06,748 --> 00:40:08,931 this is how you go on dates, like you're fine, it's okay. 693 00:40:08,931 --> 00:40:10,294 And they love it, they learn. 694 00:40:10,294 --> 00:40:13,399 But it's like, no, you wanna be at, this is the time I go to bed, this is the time 695 00:40:13,399 --> 00:40:15,362 I go to the gym, this is my kids, this is this. 696 00:40:15,362 --> 00:40:16,797 It's like, they have. 697 00:40:16,797 --> 00:40:17,577 do. 698 00:40:17,577 --> 00:40:24,501 And as a single mom, you know, I don't think that my, the relationship I was just 699 00:40:24,501 --> 00:40:28,763 in, I don't think he understood how much time and effort it really took. 700 00:40:28,784 --> 00:40:35,107 And, you know, I also think him not having kids, he didn't understand how much comes 701 00:40:35,107 --> 00:40:36,368 with kids, right? 702 00:40:36,368 --> 00:40:39,390 And, and again, that's okay. 703 00:40:39,390 --> 00:40:40,730 That is okay. 704 00:40:40,791 --> 00:40:42,431 But I 705 00:40:42,820 --> 00:40:51,382 I truly know now that I will never allow somebody to demean me ever again or make 706 00:40:51,382 --> 00:40:53,903 me feel bad about being a pro athlete. 707 00:40:53,943 --> 00:40:55,823 I think that's what did it for me. 708 00:40:56,384 --> 00:40:59,644 Somebody questioning, well, what did even getting your pro card do for you? 709 00:40:59,644 --> 00:41:02,145 What does even being a pro athlete do for you? 710 00:41:02,145 --> 00:41:03,566 That's just ridiculous. 711 00:41:03,566 --> 00:41:06,506 Like, it didn't even take anything to get there. 712 00:41:06,506 --> 00:41:08,887 And I was like, I'm sorry. 713 00:41:09,487 --> 00:41:10,247 What? 714 00:41:11,224 --> 00:41:18,026 So the craziest thing is this person was with me for a full year watching me do it, 715 00:41:18,146 --> 00:41:19,287 you know? 716 00:41:19,447 --> 00:41:28,050 So, and it's fine, but again, I think you have to meet your match where their energy 717 00:41:28,050 --> 00:41:32,412 is the same as your energy, communication is open, they're not more alpha than you 718 00:41:32,412 --> 00:41:37,614 are, and I will say I am very much so an alpha, but I have to be because of my 719 00:41:37,614 --> 00:41:39,395 kids. 720 00:41:39,395 --> 00:41:39,953 And... 721 00:41:39,953 --> 00:41:45,036 lot alike in this sport, especially, you know, having kids and then struggling as 722 00:41:45,036 --> 00:41:45,617 much as you do. 723 00:41:45,617 --> 00:41:49,660 Like you just have to be, you really can't be feeble and have somebody who's picking 724 00:41:49,660 --> 00:41:50,961 up the slack for you all the time. 725 00:41:50,961 --> 00:41:55,244 Like you will not get anywhere, you know, and that's a big personality that it takes 726 00:41:55,244 --> 00:42:01,548 a really confident man to be able to, you know, I'm not going to say like rise 727 00:42:01,548 --> 00:42:05,110 above, but I do like believe in those like feminine and masculine relationships. 728 00:42:05,110 --> 00:42:08,032 Like I can really do everything myself, but like I would like to have a man to 729 00:42:08,032 --> 00:42:08,333 like. 730 00:42:08,333 --> 00:42:10,854 do the manly things, but I can also do the manly things. 731 00:42:10,854 --> 00:42:14,175 You know, and so that's, that's like, you know, it's a tall order, but like that 732 00:42:14,175 --> 00:42:16,016 dynamic, like it can exist. 733 00:42:16,016 --> 00:42:21,579 And I dated a, between my like first marriage and my second marriage, I dated a 734 00:42:21,579 --> 00:42:24,340 competitor thinking like, this is gonna be great. 735 00:42:24,340 --> 00:42:27,381 Cause like, he'll understand the lifestyle. 736 00:42:27,381 --> 00:42:30,283 And it was just like, we were like in a race all the time. 737 00:42:30,283 --> 00:42:33,224 Like, you know, who was doing more cardio and who was having better check-in. 738 00:42:33,224 --> 00:42:36,125 And it was like, we were competing with one another and it just like, wasn't very 739 00:42:36,125 --> 00:42:37,106 positive. 740 00:42:38,347 --> 00:42:42,751 have children so you know he said the kids would hold me back from getting a pro card 741 00:42:42,751 --> 00:42:46,495 and I was like that's the silliest thing I've ever heard watch me do it anyway so I 742 00:42:46,495 --> 00:42:50,879 was kind of like you that I was just like I'm gonna show you know but you know I 743 00:42:50,879 --> 00:42:51,046 think 744 00:42:51,046 --> 00:42:53,087 I've never dated a competitor. 745 00:42:53,087 --> 00:42:54,307 That's funny. 746 00:42:54,307 --> 00:42:56,389 I think maybe that's my issue. 747 00:42:56,389 --> 00:42:59,410 I don't know. 748 00:42:59,410 --> 00:43:02,852 You know, I've always dated people who don't really understand the industry. 749 00:43:02,852 --> 00:43:06,134 And I think maybe that is the issue. 750 00:43:06,134 --> 00:43:07,014 I don't know. 751 00:43:07,014 --> 00:43:12,357 But what I do know is that when you put your heart and soul into this, you've got 752 00:43:12,357 --> 00:43:14,118 to have a good support system. 753 00:43:14,118 --> 00:43:16,299 And I will not. 754 00:43:16,692 --> 00:43:21,867 exclusively date anybody again until I know that person is going to be my best 755 00:43:21,867 --> 00:43:24,955 friend and they're going to support who I am and what I do. 756 00:43:25,689 --> 00:43:29,220 Yeah, just keep that bubble small and yeah. 757 00:43:29,220 --> 00:43:35,403 put this podcast is gonna air and I swear to gosh, watch, I wanna be invited to the 758 00:43:35,403 --> 00:43:36,004 wedding. 759 00:43:36,004 --> 00:43:40,966 Okay, listen, you're gonna meet, some guy is gonna come on here and be like, hey, 760 00:43:40,966 --> 00:43:43,267 I'm your person and you're gonna start dating him. 761 00:43:43,267 --> 00:43:49,010 And yes, that's exactly what's gonna happen. 762 00:43:49,449 --> 00:43:52,430 Leave a comment below if you're an eligible bachelor. 763 00:43:52,731 --> 00:43:53,911 And we'll like do the vetting. 764 00:43:53,911 --> 00:43:57,614 Me and Mandy will like vet all these bachelors and make sure that they like 765 00:43:57,614 --> 00:43:59,055 meet all the criteria. 766 00:43:59,055 --> 00:43:59,855 This is gonna be great. 767 00:43:59,855 --> 00:44:00,935 I'm so excited. 768 00:44:04,578 --> 00:44:05,098 I love it. 769 00:44:05,098 --> 00:44:05,819 You never know. 770 00:44:05,819 --> 00:44:07,740 We're like number 10 in Portugal. 771 00:44:08,870 --> 00:44:09,614 Yeah, right? 772 00:44:09,614 --> 00:44:10,839 What the heck yeah? 773 00:44:11,501 --> 00:44:11,863 We are. 774 00:44:11,863 --> 00:44:13,009 We're all over the world. 775 00:44:14,233 --> 00:44:15,493 Oh, well, thank you for sharing all that. 776 00:44:15,493 --> 00:44:18,755 Like I wanted to kind of dive into it because I know there's so many women 777 00:44:18,755 --> 00:44:23,097 listening to this podcast who are just like searching for like that role model, 778 00:44:23,097 --> 00:44:24,958 like somebody they can really identify with. 779 00:44:24,958 --> 00:44:28,419 And I remember when I went through my divorce and I'm like competing and trying 780 00:44:28,419 --> 00:44:31,221 to pay bills and like just trying to get my life together. 781 00:44:31,221 --> 00:44:35,623 And I was like, just looking at all these women and just like, oh, she's got this. 782 00:44:35,623 --> 00:44:37,383 You know, like you can't help but kind of compare. 783 00:44:37,383 --> 00:44:41,525 It's so great to have these like leaders that are just like, look at all the things 784 00:44:41,525 --> 00:44:42,246 that I'm doing. 785 00:44:42,246 --> 00:44:44,187 And like I've overcome X, Y, and Z. 786 00:44:44,187 --> 00:44:47,549 and you know I just love when people can like really share who they really are and 787 00:44:47,549 --> 00:44:50,851 like when we first started talking before we even started recording you were like 788 00:44:50,851 --> 00:44:54,894 you know I just want to be really real and we all want more of that but it's so hard 789 00:44:54,894 --> 00:45:00,017 to be real because people can be like very critical and I wish we could shut them all 790 00:45:00,017 --> 00:45:04,140 up and it's like one person will say something and you could have 90 amazing 791 00:45:04,140 --> 00:45:08,443 comments but sometimes that negativity is really loud so I think you know that holds 792 00:45:08,443 --> 00:45:12,505 some people back have you ever like struggled with being like vulnerable 793 00:45:15,408 --> 00:45:22,511 I have, but I think I'm at the point in my life where I know who I am now. 794 00:45:22,551 --> 00:45:27,493 It's taken me a lot of heartbreak and hurt from these past relationships to really 795 00:45:27,493 --> 00:45:34,216 dig deep in myself and figure out what I will and will not allow in my life anymore 796 00:45:34,216 --> 00:45:37,757 from friendships to relationships. 797 00:45:39,038 --> 00:45:42,619 You know, I just, I want to be happy. 798 00:45:42,619 --> 00:45:43,760 And I am. 799 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:51,566 finally happy and I don't think that I need a man in order to be happy. 800 00:45:51,566 --> 00:45:57,231 I think, yes, it will make me feel more complete when I find my person, but I'm 801 00:45:57,231 --> 00:45:59,833 not looking for it anymore. 802 00:45:59,893 --> 00:46:08,300 And I also think judgmental-wise, usually those people are the ones that are envious 803 00:46:08,420 --> 00:46:10,802 and usually those people are the ones that are going through something. 804 00:46:10,802 --> 00:46:12,583 So even in the gym when somebody— 805 00:46:12,704 --> 00:46:15,265 say they're having a bad day or they're rude to me, right? 806 00:46:15,265 --> 00:46:17,006 I just smile. 807 00:46:17,006 --> 00:46:21,588 And I honestly, inside my head, I pray for them because they're probably going 808 00:46:21,588 --> 00:46:23,609 through something that you don't understand. 809 00:46:23,609 --> 00:46:26,431 And usually the next day they will come in and be like, I am so sorry. 810 00:46:26,431 --> 00:46:27,652 And I'll be like, it's all good. 811 00:46:27,652 --> 00:46:30,333 And they'll let me know what happened. 812 00:46:30,333 --> 00:46:32,314 And they're like, you're so nice. 813 00:46:32,314 --> 00:46:39,118 And so what we really don't understand is anybody can be a tough guy behind text 814 00:46:39,118 --> 00:46:42,259 messages and on social media, right? 815 00:46:42,822 --> 00:46:45,773 But realistically, they probably don't love themselves. 816 00:46:45,773 --> 00:46:47,739 So that's sad, and I pray for them. 817 00:46:48,916 --> 00:46:50,338 That's a really good way of looking at it. 818 00:46:50,338 --> 00:46:51,239 It's true. 819 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:52,540 Yeah. 820 00:46:53,202 --> 00:46:57,807 So, um, share with us what you're working towards and what your show plans are for 821 00:46:57,807 --> 00:46:58,608 this year. 822 00:46:59,577 --> 00:47:02,278 So I only have two picked out right now. 823 00:47:03,139 --> 00:47:06,820 I am going to be, I'm five weeks out from Utah. 824 00:47:07,581 --> 00:47:09,282 So excited. 825 00:47:09,282 --> 00:47:12,083 It's supposed to be a really awesome show. 826 00:47:13,723 --> 00:47:15,884 Yes, yes. 827 00:47:15,884 --> 00:47:19,666 Very hard for me to say, but it's an amazing show from what I hear. 828 00:47:19,666 --> 00:47:21,987 So I'm super excited about that. 829 00:47:22,087 --> 00:47:22,820 And then I- 830 00:47:22,820 --> 00:47:27,776 I am going to be going right into my second peak week doing the Girl Power show 831 00:47:27,776 --> 00:47:28,998 in Orlando. 832 00:47:30,377 --> 00:47:35,144 and then Olympia qualification and 2024 Olympia, right? 833 00:47:35,285 --> 00:47:36,967 Yes. 834 00:47:36,967 --> 00:47:37,668 Girl. 835 00:47:37,668 --> 00:47:40,614 If I have to do 20 shows, bring it on. 836 00:47:40,614 --> 00:47:41,815 I'm not gonna stop. 837 00:47:42,341 --> 00:47:42,697 Love it. 838 00:47:42,697 --> 00:47:43,337 it. 839 00:47:43,398 --> 00:47:44,718 Oh, I can't wait. 840 00:47:44,759 --> 00:47:46,080 It feels like it's your time. 841 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:50,484 And I just watched you keep growing and growing and just climbing. 842 00:47:50,484 --> 00:47:54,288 And so I'm just so excited to see how this year pans out for you. 843 00:47:54,864 --> 00:47:59,069 I appreciate you guys so much and I think what's driving me even more is my 844 00:47:59,069 --> 00:48:00,390 beautiful girls. 845 00:48:02,155 --> 00:48:07,707 That's, I will say like I've never had the chance to compete without children. 846 00:48:07,707 --> 00:48:09,810 I've always competed with my son and 847 00:48:09,883 --> 00:48:10,823 I've always loved it. 848 00:48:10,823 --> 00:48:16,648 It's been fun to have him grow with me and learn and just be a part of it. 849 00:48:16,648 --> 00:48:20,552 He's learned how to respect women, he's learned women's bodies, he's learned 850 00:48:20,552 --> 00:48:24,875 healthy choices, he's learned how to eat. 851 00:48:24,936 --> 00:48:30,901 And the structure, all of it, all of it, it's just so great for kids to be in it 852 00:48:30,901 --> 00:48:35,164 and for having the little girls in there watch you and see how hard you work. 853 00:48:36,125 --> 00:48:37,224 It's just, it melts. 854 00:48:37,224 --> 00:48:41,087 They've literally asked me like 15 times, Mom, when can we go to the gym with you? 855 00:48:41,087 --> 00:48:42,368 When can we go to the gym with you? 856 00:48:42,368 --> 00:48:43,489 When can we work out with you? 857 00:48:43,489 --> 00:48:47,432 And I'm like, ah, you gotta be a little... 858 00:48:49,264 --> 00:48:51,184 I can't wait, I can't wait. 859 00:48:51,605 --> 00:48:56,948 So, and they think it's like the coolest thing when I'm on stage, they literally 860 00:48:56,948 --> 00:49:00,010 are like, you are a princess. 861 00:49:00,010 --> 00:49:00,951 And I'm like, yes I am. 862 00:49:00,951 --> 00:49:02,394 Ha ha. 863 00:49:02,394 --> 00:49:03,094 are. 864 00:49:03,815 --> 00:49:04,375 I love it. 865 00:49:04,375 --> 00:49:08,218 my husband a shirt last show, and it says Trophy Husband. 866 00:49:08,539 --> 00:49:10,681 Trophy Hubs, yeah. 867 00:49:10,681 --> 00:49:11,361 Yeah. 868 00:49:12,674 --> 00:49:13,734 Oh, I love it. 869 00:49:14,415 --> 00:49:18,818 Well, I do like to ask all of our guests if you have a piece of advice that you 870 00:49:18,818 --> 00:49:23,401 could give to other women that are on their journey of competing and trying to 871 00:49:23,401 --> 00:49:25,542 just figure out how to fit it all in. 872 00:49:25,542 --> 00:49:28,864 What is like your top tip for just juggling it all? 873 00:49:30,122 --> 00:49:35,745 Oh, you gotta, I mean for me, it's every night I sit down and I figure out how my 874 00:49:35,745 --> 00:49:37,726 day's gonna be the next day. 875 00:49:37,886 --> 00:49:42,589 It's really making sure every Sunday I'm meal prepped for the entire week. 876 00:49:43,730 --> 00:49:48,573 It's really keeping to a schedule because I realize that if I don't sit down and 877 00:49:48,573 --> 00:49:53,555 schedule things out, if my mind is a mess, then my entire life is a mess. 878 00:49:54,528 --> 00:50:01,813 So making sure that you are prepared to dig deep because it's gonna be your life 879 00:50:01,813 --> 00:50:02,713 at that point. 880 00:50:02,713 --> 00:50:08,357 I mean, you need to put everything that you have into your prep or you're not 881 00:50:08,357 --> 00:50:09,157 ready. 882 00:50:09,758 --> 00:50:12,439 Knowing that life is still gonna happen while you're in prep. 883 00:50:12,439 --> 00:50:15,681 And in fact, usually it happens like three times worse. 884 00:50:15,681 --> 00:50:17,942 Everything that happens, happens. 885 00:50:17,983 --> 00:50:18,763 So... 886 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,441 It's really dealing with those things. 887 00:50:21,441 --> 00:50:23,582 Okay, I mean, your kid's sick. 888 00:50:23,582 --> 00:50:26,223 Guess what, you gotta go pick up a kid and finish your workout at home. 889 00:50:26,223 --> 00:50:27,784 I don't know what to tell ya. 890 00:50:28,284 --> 00:50:32,587 I have softball for my kid tonight, and so yeah, my last cardio's gonna be at nine 891 00:50:32,587 --> 00:50:34,608 o'clock at night, sucks, but guess what? 892 00:50:34,608 --> 00:50:37,869 I'm gonna do it, cause it's gotta get done. 893 00:50:38,590 --> 00:50:46,534 So, you know, it's those things that are gonna structure you to really succeed 894 00:50:46,534 --> 00:50:48,695 while going through a prep, and then. 895 00:50:48,952 --> 00:50:52,143 when you're on stage, it'll taste that much better. 896 00:50:53,550 --> 00:50:55,174 Bet you did all of it, yeah? 897 00:50:55,309 --> 00:50:56,450 I love it. 898 00:50:56,952 --> 00:50:58,393 Awesome. 899 00:50:58,475 --> 00:51:00,979 Well, we have learned so much from you today. 900 00:51:00,979 --> 00:51:03,163 Jessica, thank you so much for coming on. 901 00:51:03,163 --> 00:51:06,890 Is there anybody that you would like to mention or thank before we close out this 902 00:51:06,890 --> 00:51:07,992 episode? 903 00:51:08,112 --> 00:51:13,514 Yeah, I actually started a new training program with an amazing coach, Cory 904 00:51:13,514 --> 00:51:13,874 Linder. 905 00:51:13,874 --> 00:51:16,575 He's amazing, absolutely incredible. 906 00:51:16,956 --> 00:51:21,758 He has implemented lower body for me like five times a week and I hate you, but I 907 00:51:21,758 --> 00:51:23,578 love you all at the same time. 908 00:51:24,639 --> 00:51:25,520 Is that amazing? 909 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:26,128 it. 910 00:51:26,128 --> 00:51:28,489 Yeah, absolutely. 911 00:51:28,510 --> 00:51:33,354 And then also David Dimesquez, he's amazing. 912 00:51:33,354 --> 00:51:34,575 He's my coach. 913 00:51:34,575 --> 00:51:39,199 He does all my nutrition, my check-ins with me every week. 914 00:51:39,199 --> 00:51:41,680 He's been an amazing friend with me. 915 00:51:41,821 --> 00:51:47,866 He's stuck with me through a lot of the ups and downs with relationships as well 916 00:51:47,866 --> 00:51:48,886 in kids. 917 00:51:49,787 --> 00:51:52,330 My sponsors are Pelican Meals. 918 00:51:52,330 --> 00:51:54,251 They sponsor me for meals. 919 00:51:54,888 --> 00:51:56,708 Sunset swimwear. 920 00:51:56,889 --> 00:52:00,671 She does all my suits, all the glitters, gems. 921 00:52:00,671 --> 00:52:04,793 She's my heel and jewelry sponsor. 922 00:52:04,793 --> 00:52:09,036 Camp Muscle, they're activewear that I model for them. 923 00:52:09,036 --> 00:52:11,517 They're an amazing and amazing people. 924 00:52:11,517 --> 00:52:13,618 They are just incredible company. 925 00:52:14,799 --> 00:52:20,622 And so I just, I'm so thankful to have all these people in my corner. 926 00:52:20,622 --> 00:52:22,803 I can't be, you know, 927 00:52:23,348 --> 00:52:26,295 more blessed to have these people believing in me. 928 00:52:26,577 --> 00:52:31,470 So that, those people, thank you from the bottom of my heart. 929 00:52:32,715 --> 00:52:35,157 Thank you so much for being on here today. 930 00:52:35,157 --> 00:52:37,701 All your information that you shared was gonna help so many people. 931 00:52:37,701 --> 00:52:40,203 And it was so great to hear your stories. 932 00:52:40,203 --> 00:52:44,889 And I, like, I know we're all these states away, obviously, but I feel your aura. 933 00:52:44,889 --> 00:52:45,850 I feel your energy. 934 00:52:45,850 --> 00:52:48,273 I can, like, I don't know. 935 00:52:48,273 --> 00:52:49,514 I, it's so fun. 936 00:52:51,382 --> 00:52:53,295 I can't wait to meet you, girl. 937 00:52:53,295 --> 00:52:53,596 Yes! 938 00:52:53,596 --> 00:52:56,219 Yeah, we can like so many days. 939 00:52:57,623 --> 00:52:59,205 Uh, mm-hmm. 940 00:52:59,205 --> 00:52:59,678 We'll have to. 941 00:52:59,678 --> 00:53:02,022 so you guys will have to just have me there in spirit. 942 00:53:02,022 --> 00:53:06,768 But yes, we are. 943 00:53:06,977 --> 00:53:08,218 I'm just so excited. 944 00:53:08,218 --> 00:53:08,839 I'm so excited. 945 00:53:08,839 --> 00:53:11,402 And also, this will be my first time competing in Masters. 946 00:53:11,863 --> 00:53:17,924 So yeah, so really so exciting. 947 00:53:17,924 --> 00:53:21,206 Welcome everybody, I've been here for seven years already. 948 00:53:21,366 --> 00:53:22,367 It's great! 949 00:53:24,088 --> 00:53:24,788 I used to do them all. 950 00:53:24,788 --> 00:53:30,311 35, 40, open, whatever. 951 00:53:30,572 --> 00:53:31,336 Alright, awesome! 952 00:53:31,336 --> 00:53:31,917 for being on. 953 00:53:31,917 --> 00:53:35,059 And also any of your social media, we'll make sure to have it in the description 954 00:53:35,059 --> 00:53:39,663 notes so everybody can follow your journeys, see your show, see how you get 955 00:53:39,663 --> 00:53:40,804 to Olympia this year. 956 00:53:40,804 --> 00:53:43,306 Again, manifesting it, you're gonna do it. 957 00:53:44,868 --> 00:53:47,468 Yeah, so thank you so much again. 958 00:53:47,468 --> 00:53:50,232 everybody for tuning in and thank you, Jessica. 959 00:53:50,703 --> 00:53:51,207 Bye guys!