1 00:00:00,020 --> 00:00:03,560 Josh: So we have the regular Olympics, on this show we've covered the Robot Olympics, 2 00:00:03,700 --> 00:00:07,380 Josh: and now we have the Enhanced Olympics, an Olympic competition that just happened 3 00:00:07,380 --> 00:00:12,580 Josh: last weekend that offered $7 million in prizes to the top athletes in the world. 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,500 Josh: But these are not normal athletes because the difference with the Enhanced Olympics, 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,860 Josh: the Enhanced competition, is that you're allowed to take whatever performing 6 00:00:19,860 --> 00:00:21,280 Josh: enhancing drugs that you want. 7 00:00:21,380 --> 00:00:24,900 Josh: In fact, on screen you could see the before and after of what an Olympic swimmer 8 00:00:24,900 --> 00:00:29,000 Josh: looks like prior to the Enhanced Olympics, and currently afterwards. 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,260 Josh: Words. He looks like a monster. 10 00:00:30,380 --> 00:00:33,040 Josh: This is a man that goes by the name The Missile. And on this episode, 11 00:00:33,140 --> 00:00:36,960 Josh: we're going to cover basically everything that went down at this new futuristic, 12 00:00:37,380 --> 00:00:40,920 Josh: pseudo dystopian Olympic event. We are fully kitted out in our athletic gear today. 13 00:00:41,100 --> 00:00:43,320 Josh: We are ready to talk all things superhuman. 14 00:00:43,700 --> 00:00:47,660 Josh: Is the ceiling actually higher because people dope? Or is there some unexpected 15 00:00:47,660 --> 00:00:48,840 Josh: outcomes that we're going to cover? 16 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,780 Josh: I think the latter might be a little true, Ejaz. I know both of us were tuned into this this weekend. 17 00:00:52,980 --> 00:00:57,180 Josh: It's a really bizarre thing, but I think a really cool learning experience to 18 00:00:57,180 --> 00:01:00,220 Josh: see the impact that drugs have on super athletes. 19 00:01:00,890 --> 00:01:04,950 Ejaaz: Yeah, my social media timeline looked very different over the weekend, 20 00:01:04,950 --> 00:01:06,070 Ejaaz: and I couldn't figure out why. 21 00:01:06,370 --> 00:01:11,010 Ejaaz: This guy was plastered everywhere. His name is James the Missile Magnuson, 22 00:01:11,030 --> 00:01:12,770 Ejaaz: and he's an Australian swimmer. 23 00:01:12,930 --> 00:01:18,090 Ejaaz: He never actually won any kind of a significant medal at the Olympics, at least. 24 00:01:18,310 --> 00:01:23,450 Ejaaz: And he came back out of retirement to participate in these games. So what are these games? 25 00:01:23,810 --> 00:01:27,490 Ejaaz: Over this weekend, a bunch of billionaires got together, including Peter Thiel 26 00:01:27,490 --> 00:01:32,150 Ejaaz: and Balaji. and they said, okay, let's try and recreate the Olympics but have 27 00:01:32,150 --> 00:01:34,030 Ejaaz: no restrictions on doping. 28 00:01:34,150 --> 00:01:36,970 Ejaaz: So typically at the Olympics, we have something called the Anti-Doping Agency. 29 00:01:36,970 --> 00:01:41,070 Ejaaz: They have a set of rules of all performance-enhancing drugs and substances that 30 00:01:41,070 --> 00:01:46,150 Ejaaz: you can't use to perform at the highest level. So it's just human, no enhancement at all. 31 00:01:46,330 --> 00:01:49,950 Ejaaz: They took that and completely flipped the script, allowing pretty much anyone 32 00:01:49,950 --> 00:01:51,850 Ejaaz: and everyone to enhance themselves. 33 00:01:51,990 --> 00:01:55,570 Ejaaz: And the idea was, how far can we push the human body? 34 00:01:55,710 --> 00:01:59,530 Ejaaz: What records can be beaten when we use these different types of substances. 35 00:01:59,750 --> 00:02:01,150 Ejaaz: So it took place in Vegas. 36 00:02:01,410 --> 00:02:05,350 Ejaaz: There were around 36 events in total and a huge cash price, $7 million, 37 00:02:05,570 --> 00:02:06,630 Ejaaz: as you mentioned earlier on. 38 00:02:06,910 --> 00:02:12,130 Ejaaz: Now, the breakdown of this is pretty simple. If you break a world record being 39 00:02:12,130 --> 00:02:15,910 Ejaaz: on enhanced performance drugs, or if you just break a record in general, you win $1 million. 40 00:02:16,150 --> 00:02:20,630 Ejaaz: If you win your own embed category, you win $250K. So it really stacks up. 41 00:02:20,690 --> 00:02:24,790 Ejaaz: And I think this is like the largest payout of any sporting event in recent 42 00:02:24,790 --> 00:02:28,650 Ejaaz: history. So the way this played out was it took place in Vegas over the course 43 00:02:28,650 --> 00:02:30,570 Ejaaz: of four days, including the weekend. 44 00:02:30,890 --> 00:02:34,190 Ejaaz: And it takes place over three specific event categories. 45 00:02:34,310 --> 00:02:37,070 Ejaaz: So you've got swimming, you've got track, you've got weight lifting, 46 00:02:37,290 --> 00:02:39,290 Ejaaz: plus a strongman deadlift exhibition. 47 00:02:39,510 --> 00:02:43,170 Ejaaz: All of the athletes performing can be on performance enhancing drugs. But there's a twist. 48 00:02:43,330 --> 00:02:46,930 Ejaaz: If you want to perform and you are a previous world record holder and you don't 49 00:02:46,930 --> 00:02:50,250 Ejaaz: want to engage in any of the drugs, you can also do that and see how you fare 50 00:02:50,250 --> 00:02:52,670 Ejaaz: against the enhanced versions of these athletes. 51 00:02:52,930 --> 00:02:56,730 Ejaaz: $7 million on the line in total. And this was the first sanctioned drug doping 52 00:02:56,730 --> 00:02:58,430 Ejaaz: event in modern sports history. 53 00:02:59,100 --> 00:03:01,400 Josh: So we got to start with the answering the question that everyone wants to know, 54 00:03:01,500 --> 00:03:02,820 Josh: which is, does it actually make a difference? 55 00:03:03,060 --> 00:03:05,740 Josh: And on the surface, the answer is obviously yes. The first person we're going 56 00:03:05,740 --> 00:03:09,160 Josh: to talk about is this guy named Christian, I'm not going to try to pronounce 57 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:14,880 Josh: his last name, who raced and won the 50 meter men's freestyle in 20.81 seconds, 58 00:03:15,020 --> 00:03:18,040 Josh: which is seven tenths of a second faster than the world record. 59 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,460 Josh: So that was a really strong start. In fact, this was actually the conclusion 60 00:03:21,460 --> 00:03:23,060 Josh: of it. This was the last event. 61 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:28,520 Josh: And Christian wound up taking home $1.5 million from the bonuses and awards that he won. 62 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,640 Josh: Now for better or worse that is the beginning 63 00:03:31,640 --> 00:03:34,380 Josh: and the end of the world records that were broken there was only one it was 64 00:03:34,380 --> 00:03:38,240 Josh: this one it happened at the very end of the race and it poses a series of really 65 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,060 Josh: interesting questions because another example that we have is this guy half 66 00:03:42,060 --> 00:03:45,660 Josh: thor and i think a lot of people know him as just the mountain that's his nickname 67 00:03:45,660 --> 00:03:51,500 Josh: and he is one of the world record holders for deadlifting he tried to do a world 68 00:03:51,500 --> 00:03:53,040 Josh: record deadlift attempt at the 69 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,860 Josh: didn't work. He got very close. This is a painful video to watch because that 70 00:03:57,860 --> 00:04:04,000 Josh: is an insane amount of weight, 515 kilograms, and unfortunately could not get it lifted. 71 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,660 Josh: And there was this one interesting counter argument, which was one of the people 72 00:04:08,660 --> 00:04:11,260 Josh: that actually won an event, totally natural. 73 00:04:11,460 --> 00:04:14,400 Ejaaz: I just want to go back to this Christian guy for a second. 74 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,740 Ejaaz: So he's the only PED enhanced athlete that not only broke the record, 75 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,660 Ejaaz: but came away with the most money, 1.5 million dollars he performed 76 00:04:22,660 --> 00:04:26,080 Ejaaz: in four olympics previously he 77 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,060 Ejaaz: performed for greece and he didn't medal 78 00:04:29,060 --> 00:04:34,240 Ejaaz: a single time so this guy this guy that like has suddenly broken a world record 79 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:39,820 Ejaaz: that has stood the test of time 20.81 seconds um was able to kind of prove the 80 00:04:39,820 --> 00:04:43,220 Ejaaz: thesis that like if you are able to enhance yourself you can achieve a higher 81 00:04:43,220 --> 00:04:48,020 Ejaaz: fit i also want to like take a moment to laugh at this for a second, this is like a disco. 82 00:04:48,380 --> 00:04:52,100 Ejaaz: This is like a club. You just never see this in the Olympics. 83 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,360 Ejaaz: I just find that hilarious. 84 00:04:54,780 --> 00:04:59,040 Ejaaz: So other kind of medal winners that we have here, there's Cody Miller. He was a Vegas local. 85 00:04:59,460 --> 00:05:03,040 Ejaaz: He won the breaststroke event. We've got Fred Curley, two-time Olympic medalist. 86 00:05:03,100 --> 00:05:07,060 Ejaaz: He won the men's 100 meters race in 9.97 seconds. 87 00:05:07,220 --> 00:05:10,640 Ejaaz: He won 250K. He won the event, but he didn't break any kind of record. 88 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:16,120 Ejaaz: Megan Romano on the female category, women's 100 freestyle. and Tristan Evelyn 89 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:20,860 Ejaaz: won the women's 100 meters on track and Marius Cush won the butterfly event. 90 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,360 Ejaaz: Each took home 250K each. So there was a bunch of very impressive feats, 91 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,180 Ejaaz: fast and quick times, but not necessarily too many records broken. 92 00:05:29,180 --> 00:05:33,000 Ejaaz: And in the case of there being event winners, they actually ended up being ones 93 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,900 Ejaaz: that won on performance enhancing drugs. 94 00:05:35,180 --> 00:05:38,680 Josh: And before we get into the all natural winner, we should talk about the rules 95 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:43,160 Josh: that feels important or perhaps the lack thereof rules. Basically anything different 96 00:05:43,420 --> 00:05:46,700 Josh: that you could put into your body so long as it is FDA approved is allowed. 97 00:05:46,860 --> 00:05:50,620 Josh: It must be taken under medical supervision and every single dose and ingredients 98 00:05:50,620 --> 00:05:53,520 Josh: must be published prior to competing. That's it. 99 00:05:53,740 --> 00:05:58,320 Josh: Other than that, it's free range. And what we saw is that 62% of athletes actually 100 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,100 Josh: stacked three or more of these substances on top of each other to chain the 101 00:06:02,100 --> 00:06:04,980 Josh: effects together, with the most popular one being testosterone. 102 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:09,120 Josh: 91% of the people who compete on this were on testosterone. 103 00:06:09,460 --> 00:06:13,060 Josh: We saw it in the clip of the missile and how big he got so quickly. 104 00:06:13,280 --> 00:06:16,440 Josh: That's where a lot of that comes from. Second to that is human growth hormone. 105 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,080 Josh: 79% of athletes did that. 106 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,480 Josh: And then the third most popular, which I found interesting, were stimulants. 107 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,840 Josh: 62% of the athletes who competed use stimulants. That includes things like Adderall, 108 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,860 Josh: which is an amphetamine. It gets you all hyped up. 109 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,660 Josh: And also modafinil, which is another one on the list. I'm not super familiar 110 00:06:31,660 --> 00:06:35,320 Josh: with these, but there are a lot of risks that come with these, 111 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,740 Josh: using these together, with compounding them. And the big question is, 112 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,820 Josh: is like, are these worth it? 113 00:06:40,940 --> 00:06:43,580 Josh: And the answers that we received are a little questionable. 114 00:06:43,780 --> 00:06:47,460 Josh: Now we have these funny examples that I saw of people who really stacked these very hard. 115 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,100 Josh: One of them, we have a clip from Brian Johnson here that we're gonna show, 116 00:06:50,340 --> 00:06:55,140 Josh: which talks about how one of the athletes, the missile, he actually took so 117 00:06:55,140 --> 00:06:58,920 Josh: many substances that he started sinking in the water because he became so dense. 118 00:07:00,060 --> 00:07:04,980 Josh: And it didn't quite work out for him that well because he came in last place, unfortunately. 119 00:07:05,100 --> 00:07:08,520 Josh: And it's funny, they were measuring these dosages and they had to start moving 120 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:14,300 Josh: over to horse measuring tools because it set off the limit for what humans are actually allowed to do. 121 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:18,840 Josh: And it's almost funny seeing how far these athletes will go with seemingly low returns. 122 00:07:19,060 --> 00:07:22,500 Josh: I mean, even down to the bathing suit, there's this really funny example of 123 00:07:22,500 --> 00:07:26,720 Josh: a video where one of these swimmers, it takes 27 minutes to actually get the 124 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,700 Josh: bathing suit on their body fully because they have to include powder all over 125 00:07:30,700 --> 00:07:33,020 Josh: it and they need three people to help pull it up because they're very tight. 126 00:07:33,220 --> 00:07:35,540 Josh: It basically turns them into a seal. So... 127 00:07:35,740 --> 00:07:40,540 Josh: The optimizations for that final like 0.1% of edge are all in play. 128 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,800 Josh: And it's just, it's really fascinating to see. 129 00:07:43,180 --> 00:07:47,020 Ejaaz: I'm not surprised to see Brian Johnson here commentating on this, 130 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,440 Ejaaz: like he spends his entire life, his whole brand is just to kind of like optimize 131 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:51,600 Ejaaz: his life for health and fitness. 132 00:07:51,740 --> 00:07:54,660 Ejaaz: And that's basically the thesis for this entire enhanced games, 133 00:07:54,780 --> 00:07:55,840 Ejaaz: like this enhanced Olympics. 134 00:07:55,880 --> 00:08:00,140 Ejaaz: It's like, how far can we push the human body and its limits to go to. 135 00:08:00,300 --> 00:08:05,980 Ejaaz: Now, it's interesting, I looked up the rulebook for these games, and there isn't one. 136 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:10,440 Ejaaz: In fact, when you go into the official site, or any it's official Wikipedia 137 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:15,040 Ejaaz: page, at least, it basically says it is the complete opposite to what the anti-doping 138 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:20,100 Ejaaz: agency states for any kind of Olympic or actual sporting event. 139 00:08:20,100 --> 00:08:23,900 Ejaaz: So I found that pretty hilarious. And it brings up the question of like, 140 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,820 Ejaaz: should humans be using these drugs? 141 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,580 Ejaaz: Or should they not? Like, what's the moral ethic behind it? 142 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,660 Ejaaz: Now, the obvious answer for many people or the majority of people will probably 143 00:08:33,660 --> 00:08:37,520 Ejaaz: be like, you know, you shouldn't be able to take a drug enhancing kind of like medication. 144 00:08:37,680 --> 00:08:40,480 Ejaaz: You should just kind of like perform in your natural fervor. But... 145 00:08:40,570 --> 00:08:44,410 Ejaaz: This has been kind of disputed a lot and it's actually changed a lot over time. 146 00:08:44,510 --> 00:08:48,550 Ejaaz: So if you look at like what the anti-doping agency kind of like positioned where 147 00:08:48,550 --> 00:08:51,930 Ejaaz: it positioned itself a decade ago versus where it positions itself now, 148 00:08:52,290 --> 00:08:55,670 Ejaaz: it's now enabled a bunch of different kinds of drugs or compounds to be used. 149 00:08:55,750 --> 00:08:57,350 Ejaaz: So it's always evolved over time. 150 00:08:57,450 --> 00:09:00,610 Ejaaz: And I guess the question that the Enhanced Games is trying to answer is, 151 00:09:00,970 --> 00:09:02,870 Ejaaz: should we have any of these rules in the first place? 152 00:09:03,050 --> 00:09:06,530 Ejaaz: Like what constitutes a safe substance? What constitutes an unsafe substance? 153 00:09:06,710 --> 00:09:10,350 Ejaaz: You'll see here like in the rulebook, they say that like, you can't use anything and everything. 154 00:09:10,590 --> 00:09:14,710 Ejaaz: And the things that are FDA approved, you need to state what substances you've taken, 155 00:09:14,850 --> 00:09:19,330 Ejaaz: what the doses dosages are so that they have a kind of like experimental lab 156 00:09:19,330 --> 00:09:22,690 Ejaaz: kind of feel like, I can't help but think that like, the sponsors for the show, 157 00:09:22,790 --> 00:09:26,030 Ejaaz: the investors for the show are biotech companies that are just doing as not 158 00:09:26,030 --> 00:09:27,090 Ejaaz: for the sporting history, 159 00:09:27,250 --> 00:09:30,770 Ejaaz: or the prominence that comes from that it's more to like, kind of like, 160 00:09:31,130 --> 00:09:33,830 Ejaaz: use them as lab rats to try and figure out, you know, what pads they should 161 00:09:33,830 --> 00:09:34,470 Ejaaz: be building themselves. 162 00:09:34,630 --> 00:09:37,850 Ejaaz: And there's a really interesting point that we want to make on the business side of things. 163 00:09:38,010 --> 00:09:41,830 Ejaaz: But before we do that, there is a narrative break. 164 00:09:41,970 --> 00:09:46,650 Ejaaz: So you would expect the people that use these different kinds of drugs to perform 165 00:09:46,650 --> 00:09:48,170 Ejaaz: better than the people that don't. 166 00:09:48,250 --> 00:09:50,930 Ejaaz: But that ended up not being the case, not just in one event, 167 00:09:51,030 --> 00:09:53,690 Ejaaz: but in many different cases. But let's just take this one example. 168 00:09:54,130 --> 00:09:58,350 Ejaaz: Hunter Armstrong shows up. He's a two-time Olympic gold medalist and a former 169 00:09:58,350 --> 00:10:02,270 Ejaaz: world record holder. And he performs in the 50-meter backstroke, 170 00:10:02,550 --> 00:10:04,890 Ejaaz: right? This is a very, you know, highly competitive event. 171 00:10:05,070 --> 00:10:08,690 Ejaaz: And he ends up winning it. He didn't take a single PED, performance enhancing 172 00:10:08,690 --> 00:10:13,470 Ejaaz: drug, and he beat all the guys, including, I believe, James the Missile Magnuson, 173 00:10:13,590 --> 00:10:15,450 Ejaaz: who is that beefed up guy that we showed earlier. 174 00:10:15,630 --> 00:10:18,610 Ejaaz: So it just goes to show that like, one of two things. 175 00:10:18,790 --> 00:10:22,050 Ejaaz: One, maybe the performance enhancing drugs don't actually enhance you for the 176 00:10:22,050 --> 00:10:25,170 Ejaaz: particular sport that you're trying to do. Maybe bigger muscle doesn't actually 177 00:10:25,170 --> 00:10:26,230 Ejaaz: help. It's more technique. 178 00:10:26,490 --> 00:10:30,770 Ejaaz: But then the other question that comes to my mind is, were the non-enhanced athletes 179 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:35,600 Ejaaz: already on the drugs beforehand and maybe like they've just kind of like increased 180 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:40,500 Ejaaz: it to a level that's kind of close to what is legal or illegal and they were 181 00:10:40,500 --> 00:10:43,060 Ejaaz: able to still win anyhow it's a it's an interesting question. 182 00:10:43,060 --> 00:10:47,300 Josh: There's like these two outstanding questions right one is that one that the 183 00:10:47,300 --> 00:10:51,520 Josh: actual games posed which is are olympic athletes already doping and they're 184 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,160 Josh: just hiding it very well their assumption is yes their assumption is that 44 185 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:59,520 Josh: of olympic athletes are actually doping as we speak and they're doing this on 186 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,460 Josh: the regular basis and that's how they're getting exceptional results. 187 00:11:03,090 --> 00:11:06,150 Josh: Other side of this is that enhanced athletes 188 00:11:06,150 --> 00:11:09,670 Josh: don't even perform at an olympic level because it 189 00:11:09,670 --> 00:11:12,710 Josh: would effectively mean based on the results of this event 190 00:11:12,710 --> 00:11:18,370 Josh: that the physical ceiling of a lot of athletes is baked into more their genetics 191 00:11:18,370 --> 00:11:23,750 Josh: versus their ability to stack it on using growth enhancers because most of these 192 00:11:23,750 --> 00:11:28,250 Josh: races that we talked about they didn't even break olympic world records or they 193 00:11:28,250 --> 00:11:32,050 Josh: didn't even break olympic records let alone world records so a lot of the records weren't broken, 194 00:11:32,230 --> 00:11:37,650 Josh: even given the sheer amount of perceived advantage they would have from taking these drugs. 195 00:11:37,770 --> 00:11:42,110 Josh: And I think that's really noteworthy is the idea that possibly like humans, 196 00:11:42,690 --> 00:11:45,770 Josh: maybe you just need to be born as an elite level athlete and you could train 197 00:11:45,770 --> 00:11:49,390 Josh: to get to the maximum of your own potential, but taking a certain amount of 198 00:11:49,390 --> 00:11:53,410 Josh: drugs will not get you somewhere that you are not biologically able to do yet. 199 00:11:53,570 --> 00:11:56,230 Josh: And I think that's probably the takeaway from the first Olympic games is that 200 00:11:56,230 --> 00:11:59,710 Josh: you can maybe improve yourself a little bit, but based on the results we're 201 00:11:59,710 --> 00:12:03,230 Josh: seeing, I mean, people who didn't take any performance enhancing drugs were winning these events. 202 00:12:03,370 --> 00:12:06,890 Josh: And the only world record that was broken was one. And it was by seven tenths 203 00:12:06,890 --> 00:12:11,050 Josh: of a second. So it's very small margins here. We're right on the frontier. 204 00:12:11,250 --> 00:12:15,270 Josh: And there isn't a clear signal that taking all these drugs actually makes a 205 00:12:15,270 --> 00:12:15,790 Josh: meaningful difference. 206 00:12:15,930 --> 00:12:20,170 Josh: Now, granted, these are the FDA approved drugs. These are not the experimental 207 00:12:20,170 --> 00:12:22,070 Josh: peptides that we see a lot of people talking about. 208 00:12:22,290 --> 00:12:26,130 Josh: This is not that next generation of drugs. So we'll see how these games evolve 209 00:12:26,130 --> 00:12:29,230 Josh: over the years. But right now, the data is a little questionable. 210 00:12:29,770 --> 00:12:35,490 Ejaaz: There's this amazing quote from Fred Curley, who's a guy or athlete that competed 211 00:12:35,490 --> 00:12:39,430 Ejaaz: in the 100-meter sprint, and he refused to take any of these drugs, 212 00:12:39,490 --> 00:12:42,110 Ejaaz: and he ended up winning the event, despite not taking any of the drugs, 213 00:12:42,210 --> 00:12:45,270 Ejaaz: with a 9.97-second beat. 214 00:12:45,610 --> 00:12:48,230 Ejaaz: But he goes, he goes, 215 00:12:48,830 --> 00:12:52,250 Ejaaz: Everyone needs to train harder and use the drugs better too. 216 00:12:52,610 --> 00:12:57,430 Ejaaz: So the point he's making is like, essentially like drugs aren't everything to 217 00:12:57,430 --> 00:13:00,810 Ejaaz: win this kind of like type of an event or sporting competition at least. 218 00:13:01,130 --> 00:13:04,630 Ejaaz: And a lot goes into kind of like training and prepping yourself. 219 00:13:04,850 --> 00:13:07,670 Ejaaz: And we kind of see this with the people that like are very open and transparent, 220 00:13:07,830 --> 00:13:13,490 Ejaaz: but using steroids to kind of like enhance their physique, they do still put in a lot of work. 221 00:13:13,570 --> 00:13:16,870 Ejaaz: I kind of think of, I don't know if you know this guy, Josh, Chris Bumstead. he's 222 00:13:16,870 --> 00:13:20,330 Ejaaz: like this guy that's competed in a lot of like male um uh 223 00:13:20,330 --> 00:13:23,250 Ejaaz: olympics when it comes to like you know muscle mass and like those types of 224 00:13:23,250 --> 00:13:27,430 Ejaaz: competitions he's been very open about this kind of stuff and he puts in so 225 00:13:27,430 --> 00:13:29,870 Ejaaz: much work i've spent like so much time watching his youtube videos and stuff 226 00:13:29,870 --> 00:13:33,210 Ejaaz: and it's the same thing happening uh in these events like just because you take 227 00:13:33,210 --> 00:13:35,630 Ejaaz: these drugs doesn't mean you're automatically going to win you need to put in 228 00:13:35,630 --> 00:13:40,190 Ejaaz: the effort and you can get out competed by people who put in more effort than you yeah. 229 00:13:40,190 --> 00:13:44,110 Josh: They're freaks of nature and it's it's interesting to see. I wonder what would 230 00:13:44,110 --> 00:13:47,830 Josh: happen if we took those Olympic athletes and we gave them doping access, 231 00:13:48,050 --> 00:13:49,490 Josh: like the gold medalists of all these events. 232 00:13:49,690 --> 00:13:52,510 Josh: What would it look like if they were given a little extra edge? 233 00:13:52,630 --> 00:13:53,610 Josh: Would it make a material difference? 234 00:13:53,950 --> 00:13:57,310 Josh: I don't know. Maybe one day we'll see as this frontier gets pushed even forward. 235 00:13:57,590 --> 00:14:01,490 Ejaaz: Also, I want someone to come in that isn't retired for 20 years, 236 00:14:01,670 --> 00:14:03,410 Ejaaz: which is what a lot of these guys were. 237 00:14:03,750 --> 00:14:08,890 Ejaaz: I want to see them come out of their prime and use some of these drugs and see whether that works. 238 00:14:09,010 --> 00:14:12,230 Ejaaz: I guess a lot of that is dependent on like future versions of this competition. 239 00:14:13,110 --> 00:14:15,870 Josh: Yeah. And then there's this whole second part of this competition too, 240 00:14:16,010 --> 00:14:19,030 Josh: which is getting down to the kind of reason why this even exists in the first 241 00:14:19,030 --> 00:14:21,330 Josh: place. We mentioned Peter Thiel is one of the elite investors. 242 00:14:21,610 --> 00:14:25,210 Josh: This took place in Vegas. This also, one thing that's noteworthy that we haven't 243 00:14:25,210 --> 00:14:29,290 Josh: mentioned yet is the fact that it took place in Vegas outside in the end of May. 244 00:14:29,550 --> 00:14:34,190 Josh: It was hot, so hot that they had to cover the barbells because they were getting too hot to even hold. 245 00:14:34,390 --> 00:14:37,230 Josh: A lot of athletes, they train and very controlled indoor environments. 246 00:14:37,430 --> 00:14:41,170 Josh: So having to compete outdoor in the very, very high heat, fully exposed to the sun 247 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,360 Josh: is a disadvantage. But the business that put this on is, I think, 248 00:14:45,540 --> 00:14:47,340 Josh: part of the story that a lot of people are glazing over. 249 00:14:47,540 --> 00:14:51,920 Josh: Because this very much is a business. This is not just a for-fun philanthropic 250 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,020 Josh: venture. This is a company with a goal. 251 00:14:55,220 --> 00:14:59,940 Josh: And that is clearly based on their website to sell you supplements or to actually 252 00:14:59,940 --> 00:15:01,540 Josh: trade at a higher valuation because it's public. 253 00:15:01,660 --> 00:15:04,980 Josh: But Ejaz, you were scrolling through the website earlier to just get a little bit more information. 254 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,680 Josh: And it's funny, the first thing that you see when you visit the website is a 255 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,640 Josh: button that says get enhanced and they're selling a series of performance enhancing 256 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,440 Josh: drugs that you can go and buy based on this brand. 257 00:15:14,620 --> 00:15:18,980 Josh: So it's interesting to note the economic incentives as well for holding an event like this. 258 00:15:19,380 --> 00:15:23,700 Ejaaz: Yeah, you would think that when you go to a sporting athletic associations website 259 00:15:23,700 --> 00:15:27,820 Ejaaz: that they would probably talk something about the competition and like explain 260 00:15:27,820 --> 00:15:31,140 Ejaaz: kind of like the philosophy, the thesis, the vision behind this entire thing. 261 00:15:31,300 --> 00:15:35,860 Ejaaz: It's one of the greatest competitive traits of history. And over here, 262 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:36,960 Ejaaz: they're just trying to sell your product. 263 00:15:37,180 --> 00:15:39,560 Ejaaz: I don't even know what these products do, by the way, but they're trying to 264 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:43,160 Ejaaz: sell you the products that these athletes are taking you as a regular individual 265 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,980 Ejaaz: that may not be competing at the highest level or have any interest in competing 266 00:15:45,980 --> 00:15:49,060 Ejaaz: at the highest level, you're immediately hit with a get enhanced button. 267 00:15:49,220 --> 00:15:52,720 Ejaaz: And you can view this menu of these random compounds, which most of these compounds, 268 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,200 Ejaaz: I don't know how to pronounce, I don't know what they will do. 269 00:15:55,300 --> 00:15:57,980 Ejaaz: And you can buy it in the same way that I buy my protein powder, 270 00:15:58,140 --> 00:16:00,340 Ejaaz: and I have it on subscription, and you can take it. 271 00:16:00,460 --> 00:16:03,220 Ejaaz: I don't know what effects these will have. But the point is, 272 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:08,920 Ejaaz: this seems like a biotech company advertising their product disguised as a sporting event. 273 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,300 Ejaaz: And that kind of takes away from the authenticity and the excitement that comes 274 00:16:12,300 --> 00:16:15,900 Ejaaz: from this and reinforces the point that I made earlier, which is this seems 275 00:16:15,900 --> 00:16:19,860 Ejaaz: like a worldwide kind of lab experiment 276 00:16:19,860 --> 00:16:23,960 Ejaaz: to try and see whether their drugs actually do do well and if not, 277 00:16:24,100 --> 00:16:27,840 Ejaaz: what went wrong and how they can improve it. Maybe they do genetic testing and 278 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:28,820 Ejaaz: all those kinds of things. 279 00:16:28,980 --> 00:16:33,020 Ejaaz: And so another thing I discovered is if you go to the investor tab of this website, 280 00:16:33,220 --> 00:16:34,560 Ejaaz: you'll notice a stock ticker. 281 00:16:34,950 --> 00:16:39,050 Ejaaz: On the left over here. And so I was like, what is this? What is this stock? 282 00:16:39,230 --> 00:16:40,610 Ejaaz: Why is this company public? 283 00:16:40,810 --> 00:16:44,950 Ejaaz: And it turns out it is the enhanced games is basically part of a SPAC. 284 00:16:45,090 --> 00:16:49,450 Ejaaz: So they were like acquired under the ticker, E N H A. 285 00:16:49,930 --> 00:16:53,810 Ejaaz: And they basically started effectively trading about a couple of months ago. 286 00:16:53,950 --> 00:16:56,810 Ejaaz: And in the last month, it has taken an absolute beating. 287 00:16:57,090 --> 00:17:00,750 Ejaaz: The complete value of this entire corporation is down almost 50%. 288 00:17:00,750 --> 00:17:02,650 Ejaaz: So it signals a few things. 289 00:17:02,810 --> 00:17:08,310 Ejaaz: One, that the general public's confidence in this type of competition isn't 290 00:17:08,310 --> 00:17:10,690 Ejaaz: too high, isn't too favorable, which I guess makes sense. 291 00:17:10,850 --> 00:17:13,810 Ejaaz: The majority of people are used to the Olympics. They care about ethics and 292 00:17:13,810 --> 00:17:17,210 Ejaaz: they care about the fact that like these humans are performing in their natural form. 293 00:17:17,350 --> 00:17:21,270 Ejaaz: People aren't really open to PEDs or they're not really, they have a bad taste 294 00:17:21,270 --> 00:17:24,390 Ejaaz: in their mouth about like what these things actually do. They see it as a bad thing. 295 00:17:24,690 --> 00:17:27,950 Ejaaz: But just interesting to see the financial incentives that are put in by these 296 00:17:27,950 --> 00:17:31,530 Ejaaz: full billionaires, Balaji, Peter Thiel, and a number of others that are trying 297 00:17:31,530 --> 00:17:35,190 Ejaaz: to kind of boost this mainly as a sales narrative versus a sporting achievement. 298 00:17:35,510 --> 00:17:38,130 Josh: Yeah, and I wish the stock was actually the other direction because I think 299 00:17:38,130 --> 00:17:41,610 Josh: it's very admirable trying new things, shifting the Overton window in ways that 300 00:17:41,610 --> 00:17:45,610 Josh: a lot of people don't expect, making it acceptable to test and experiment on yourself. 301 00:17:45,750 --> 00:17:48,850 Josh: And this is very much, I mean, we talk a lot about AI on the show. 302 00:17:49,070 --> 00:17:53,510 Josh: This is very much a world that gets empowered and accelerated by AI. 303 00:17:53,670 --> 00:17:56,750 Josh: I think when we think about a lot of the largest investments that are coming, 304 00:17:56,890 --> 00:18:01,470 Josh: right now, even from within OpenAI and Anthropic and other large companies like 305 00:18:01,470 --> 00:18:02,850 Josh: Eli Lilly and Andreessen Horowitz, 306 00:18:03,070 --> 00:18:06,770 Josh: they're all spending a lot of time figuring out the best ways to contribute 307 00:18:06,770 --> 00:18:09,950 Josh: to the world of biotech, to understanding genome sequencing, 308 00:18:10,590 --> 00:18:16,290 Josh: to investing in biotech accelerators, anything that can really move the needle forward. 309 00:18:16,430 --> 00:18:20,670 Josh: In fact, Eli Lilly and Andreessen Horowitz launched a half a billion dollar 310 00:18:20,670 --> 00:18:24,790 Josh: fund just for AI biotech to help accelerate the rate at which we discover these 311 00:18:24,790 --> 00:18:26,750 Josh: new breakthroughs. And one of the things that we're gonna be seeing 312 00:18:27,070 --> 00:18:31,790 Josh: as we progress through this, is the increased cadence of trials that not only 313 00:18:31,790 --> 00:18:35,170 Josh: go to trial, but then pass trial, because we're able to do so much of the testing 314 00:18:35,170 --> 00:18:39,490 Josh: through these large language models versus having to wait for human trials that take many, many years. 315 00:18:39,630 --> 00:18:42,350 Josh: So the rate of acceleration that we're going to see these types of improvements, 316 00:18:42,530 --> 00:18:45,830 Josh: maybe now just for sport, because it's fun to watch, but then also for just 317 00:18:45,830 --> 00:18:49,430 Josh: general well-being of humans, it's probably going to accelerate fairly quickly. 318 00:18:49,610 --> 00:18:51,870 Josh: And all of these initiatives are all pushing the same direction. 319 00:18:52,050 --> 00:18:56,110 Ejaaz: And I think you're right. And I don't think it's just going to surface in the form of athletics. 320 00:18:56,110 --> 00:19:01,070 Ejaaz: It's going to surface in the form of self-care and even like prevention of diseases 321 00:19:01,070 --> 00:19:03,210 Ejaaz: forming or even just treating diseases directly. 322 00:19:03,210 --> 00:19:08,630 Ejaaz: I think immediately of isomorphic labs, which is basically Google's AI-powered 323 00:19:08,630 --> 00:19:14,150 Ejaaz: drug lab, which just spun out and raised, I think, $2.1 billion from Thrive. 324 00:19:14,870 --> 00:19:16,850 Ejaaz: Their whole thing is they attach 325 00:19:16,850 --> 00:19:22,350 Ejaaz: Google's like leading protein sequencing model to a drug design module. 326 00:19:22,630 --> 00:19:26,270 Ejaaz: And it basically spits out, it evaluates your genome, it sequences it, 327 00:19:26,370 --> 00:19:31,190 Ejaaz: and then it spits out a perfected cure design of a drug that could prevent major 328 00:19:31,190 --> 00:19:32,190 Ejaaz: diseases from occurring. 329 00:19:32,510 --> 00:19:36,810 Ejaaz: Now, the one major kind of like feat that it's achieved so far is the drugs 330 00:19:36,810 --> 00:19:39,470 Ejaaz: that it's designed, that has been tested and built in a lab, 331 00:19:39,690 --> 00:19:44,190 Ejaaz: have already passed a number of the different obstacles, way more than an average 332 00:19:44,190 --> 00:19:46,430 Ejaaz: drug does, for testing to go to human trials. 333 00:19:46,430 --> 00:19:49,050 Ejaaz: So the technology is already proving itself. 334 00:19:49,230 --> 00:19:52,350 Ejaaz: Just a bunch of these drugs haven't hit the public market yet because they're 335 00:19:52,350 --> 00:19:53,770 Ejaaz: going through human trials right now. 336 00:19:53,890 --> 00:19:58,890 Ejaaz: So I expect there to be a shift in the future where people go from like not 337 00:19:58,890 --> 00:20:02,970 Ejaaz: having certainty around how to treat a particular disease or problem or cure 338 00:20:02,970 --> 00:20:06,890 Ejaaz: to having full confidence in doing that. And in fact, leaning into it. 339 00:20:07,130 --> 00:20:10,690 Ejaaz: If you could have a personalized drug for yourself versus for me, 340 00:20:10,930 --> 00:20:13,990 Ejaaz: for some particular ailment that we're feeling, that is something that will 341 00:20:13,990 --> 00:20:18,230 Ejaaz: not just permeate the drug and disease side of things, but also performance 342 00:20:18,230 --> 00:20:21,250 Ejaaz: enhancing as well. It's easy to kind of like make that jump in your head to go from, 343 00:20:21,530 --> 00:20:24,610 Ejaaz: well, if I can prevent this disease, how can I make myself better? 344 00:20:24,750 --> 00:20:27,730 Ejaaz: I'm like, I don't have a disease right now, but can I improve my hair growth 345 00:20:27,730 --> 00:20:28,470 Ejaaz: or whatever that might be? 346 00:20:28,650 --> 00:20:31,770 Ejaaz: And so you can see something like the Enhanced Games becoming a lot popular 347 00:20:31,770 --> 00:20:33,110 Ejaaz: down the line, thanks to AI. 348 00:20:33,390 --> 00:20:37,250 Josh: Yeah, and fun stats in terms of AI acceleration. We're about halfway through 349 00:20:37,250 --> 00:20:44,270 Josh: the year of 2026, and so far, 173 AI drug discovered programs are in clinical trials right now. 350 00:20:44,630 --> 00:20:47,950 Josh: 94 are in phase one, 56 are in phase two, 15 are in phase three, 351 00:20:48,110 --> 00:20:51,710 Josh: all enabled by AI. This is a huge rate of acceleration. 352 00:20:52,110 --> 00:20:55,830 Josh: In fact, Anthropic, they acquired Coefficient Bio, if you remember a little 353 00:20:55,830 --> 00:20:58,410 Josh: while ago, for $400 million of stock. 354 00:20:58,610 --> 00:21:03,390 Josh: So Frontier Labs are trying to solve this problem, which is mostly now a large 355 00:21:03,390 --> 00:21:08,410 Josh: numbers problem because I think the estimate is 10 to the 60th power possible 356 00:21:08,410 --> 00:21:12,390 Josh: chemical compounds exist, which is more than the stars in the observable universe. 357 00:21:12,530 --> 00:21:16,310 Josh: And now it's these companies' jobs to seek out that problem space, 358 00:21:16,470 --> 00:21:19,830 Josh: figure out where the best solutions lie, and actually bring those into a form 359 00:21:19,830 --> 00:21:22,390 Josh: factor that humans can ingest to make their lives better. 360 00:21:22,530 --> 00:21:25,990 Josh: And if these enhanced games can accelerate the rate that that happens or the 361 00:21:25,990 --> 00:21:28,550 Josh: attention that gets placed on it, I think that's a huge win for everyone, 362 00:21:28,670 --> 00:21:31,450 Josh: even if the records were not really broken this one. 363 00:21:31,550 --> 00:21:35,650 Ejaaz: I think it's a good start. I actually do want to see more of this happen. 364 00:21:35,850 --> 00:21:39,790 Ejaaz: I have a bio background, so I kind of like dug into the weeds of a lot of this 365 00:21:39,790 --> 00:21:43,530 Ejaaz: genetic stuff in the past and I'm like massively pro, like trying to figure 366 00:21:43,530 --> 00:21:47,210 Ejaaz: out new ways and new cures or novel ways to kind of enhance the human body. 367 00:21:47,210 --> 00:21:49,930 Ejaaz: When it comes to sporting i i expect this trend to 368 00:21:49,930 --> 00:21:52,770 Ejaaz: flip um i was kind of surprised that the drug enhancements didn't work 369 00:21:52,770 --> 00:21:55,670 Ejaaz: but it may also make sense like they have never had like 370 00:21:55,670 --> 00:22:00,030 Ejaaz: a wide test bucket to kind of see how humans actually perform at the highest 371 00:22:00,030 --> 00:22:03,890 Ejaaz: level and it was just a great spectacle to watch over the weekend um it definitely 372 00:22:03,890 --> 00:22:07,170 Ejaaz: kept me super entertained i sent a bunch of these to my friends who were like 373 00:22:07,170 --> 00:22:10,970 Ejaaz: that you know these kind of records being broken are crazy um and it was just 374 00:22:10,970 --> 00:22:13,370 Ejaaz: a fun discussion overall for for i think like uh 375 00:22:13,740 --> 00:22:17,420 Ejaaz: people who are kind of obsessed with sports or athletics or like even kind of 376 00:22:17,420 --> 00:22:20,380 Ejaaz: interested and wanted to see, you know, how far can we actually push this? 377 00:22:20,660 --> 00:22:23,380 Ejaaz: It's been great entertainment all round. And I'm looking forward to the next 378 00:22:23,380 --> 00:22:28,100 Ejaaz: one. I'm excited to see like what some of these products actually do for regular people as well. 379 00:22:28,220 --> 00:22:31,920 Ejaaz: If you are someone that is listening to this and you go onto their website and 380 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,680 Ejaaz: you're seeing some of these comments and you're interested in it, 381 00:22:33,820 --> 00:22:36,700 Ejaaz: like, let us know what your thought process is behind it. 382 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,260 Ejaaz: Because I look at this and I'm kind of like scared, but maybe you guys know 383 00:22:39,260 --> 00:22:39,980 Ejaaz: something better than me. 384 00:22:40,060 --> 00:22:43,000 Ejaaz: I know peptides and amino acids are becoming like a big thing now. 385 00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:44,960 Ejaaz: So maybe I'm just a boomer and missing something. 386 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,640 Ejaaz: But that is it for today's episode. 387 00:22:47,980 --> 00:22:51,120 Ejaaz: We have a bunch more coming up this week. Josh, any final words? 388 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,720 Josh: No, that's it. I mean, it was a fun weekend. If you haven't seen some of these 389 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,840 Josh: clips, I would recommend going back, checking them out, watching them. 390 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,880 Josh: If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to share it with your friends. 391 00:22:59,060 --> 00:23:03,140 Josh: Your support really helps. We have been having record weeks the last two weeks in terms of you. 392 00:23:03,300 --> 00:23:05,940 Josh: So thank you so much for the support. As always, we really appreciate it. 393 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,140 Josh: And we will be back again tomorrow for another episode. 394 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:08,820 Ejaaz: See you guys.