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<v Speaker 1>So, Jeff, Today we're receiving Paul's final instructions as he

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<v Speaker 1>finally wraps up his letter to the Church of Rome.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's been wrapping this thing up for a while,

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't he. So this is a good preacher. We love

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<v Speaker 2>to just close and close and close. And that's what

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<v Speaker 2>he's saying, Paul, that's right. So he's Chris and I'm Jeff,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're the Bible guys.

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<v Speaker 3>So Jeff, Yes, today we're supposed to be doing a draft.

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<v Speaker 4>I like I like it when we do these drafts.

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<v Speaker 3>Too, So it's uh, I'm just gonna read it how

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<v Speaker 3>it's written.

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<v Speaker 1>It says today, we're going to do a draft list

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<v Speaker 1>of your top tier favorite actors. Think that if they're

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<v Speaker 1>in a movie, then you're going to go and see

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<v Speaker 1>it just because of the actors. Do rock paper scissors

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<v Speaker 1>to see who gets the first pick, and then go

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<v Speaker 1>until you each have five actors.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh five, okay, just for the sake of just being

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<v Speaker 4>on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Top of our brains, just for to make it easier,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just pick male actors.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, just the top male actors. Okay, just because I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't. My brain can't work that hard. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So one shoot one two three shoot Ready one two three.

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<v Speaker 1>Shoot one two three, shoot one two three shoot.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So my first one would be My favorite actor is

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<v Speaker 2>Harrison Ford.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's good. My favorite actor is Tom Hanks.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh really?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? Yeah, makes believe it or not. I always am

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<v Speaker 2>curious every time I see John Krasinski in a in

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<v Speaker 2>a movie or a TV show or something.

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<v Speaker 4>I really like him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, My second one is Tom Cruise.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you said Tom Cruise was your first one,

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Hanks. You said Tom Cruise first.

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<v Speaker 3>I did not.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm almost positive you did.

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<v Speaker 3>We can roll the everybody who's listening is laughing because they.

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<v Speaker 4>You said Tom Hanks first.

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<v Speaker 3>I read it. I read it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I don't think you said it right. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>gonna go back with him later. Okay, so my number three.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, by the way, I'm now speaking to Jeff listening later.

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<v Speaker 2>Got you.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not true. We didn't roll it back yet.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I know. I'm talking to you like a week

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<v Speaker 3>from now.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, okay, well we'll see, okay, let me see.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me see. Who's the guy who did the Born series,

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<v Speaker 4>Mad Dame Mad Damon, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Matt Damon. Okay, Uh, he's on my list as well.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna say Denzel.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I love Denzel oh Man. Okay, so what are

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<v Speaker 2>we at now? Number three?

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<v Speaker 4>Number four? So number four?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, anytime I see who, I want to watch that movie? Ah, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't watch movies often enough to know. Uh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>we're doing a lot of action movies, aren't we, So

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<v Speaker 2>we should change Kevin Costner.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's on the back end.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, but you know all time, like like I

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<v Speaker 2>like to draft day, hey, like some of those machines machine.

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<v Speaker 3>He's doing a thing on Yellowstone.

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<v Speaker 4>Now called Yellowstone.

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<v Speaker 3>It's in Yellowstone Park. Oh he's yes, he's narrated Yellowstone

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<v Speaker 3>I think that'd be right off your head.

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<v Speaker 4>Thought you're talking about the TV show.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, okay, okay. So my other, my fourth one

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<v Speaker 3>would be Paul Rudd.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh that's a good one.

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<v Speaker 3>I love.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Paul Rudd, he's good. Let me see.

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<v Speaker 3>And then this is the last man.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is the last one.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of all of the people. See, I would have

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<v Speaker 2>done Tom Hanks. Uh, let me see. I can't think

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<v Speaker 2>of it. I can't think of one.

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<v Speaker 1>How about if I give you four or five, you

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<v Speaker 1>can choose, probably Robert de Niro, Anthony Hopkins, Sean Connery,

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<v Speaker 1>Leonardo DiCaprio, Jacky Nicholson, Will Smith.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually Jack Black. Jack Black's the one I'm gonna pick

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<v Speaker 4>for my fifth draft choice.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh gosh, that's so great.

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<v Speaker 1>After I read like the greatest actors of all time,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like Jack Black in the moment, all right, out

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<v Speaker 1>of that remaining because I wrote down like ten actors

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<v Speaker 1>that I liked, I'm and I have this list, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, from something else. I'm gonna say that the

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<v Speaker 1>one I'm gonna choose is very hard. But I'm actually

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say Will Smith.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, yeah, Will Smith. So he's my fifth.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to take one big step back from you.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay out of arms reach.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't mimic his slab pay well.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I'm just afraid.

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<v Speaker 3>Now. Christian is great.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a good actor.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yes, very good.

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<v Speaker 1>Well today we're going to wrap up the Book of

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<v Speaker 1>Romans in the letter that Paul is writing to the

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<v Speaker 1>church he's never been to and he's giving final instructions.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so well let's just pick up here because remember

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday we talked about how he's not taking shots at

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<v Speaker 2>other Christians, right, right, But he does say this, and

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<v Speaker 2>then this is why we stopped, he says. And now

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<v Speaker 2>I make one more appeal, My dear brothers and sisters,

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<v Speaker 2>watch out for people who cause divisions and upset people's

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<v Speaker 2>faith by teaching things contrary to what you've been taught.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay away from them. Such people are not serving Christ,

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<v Speaker 2>our Lord. They are serving their own personal interests. By

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<v Speaker 2>smooth talk and glowing words, they deceive innocent people. But

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<v Speaker 2>everyone knows that you are obedient to the Lord, and

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<v Speaker 2>this makes me very happy. I want you to be

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<v Speaker 2>wise and doing right and to stay innocent. Of any wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>The God of Peace will soon crush Satan under your feet.

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<v Speaker 2>May the grace of our Lord Jesus be with you. Timothy,

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<v Speaker 2>my fellow worker, sends you his greetings, as do Lucius,

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Suscipator, and my fellow Jews. I Tertius, the one

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<v Speaker 2>writing this letter for Paul, send my greetings too, is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the Lord's followers.

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<v Speaker 4>I love that he slipped that in.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it in between Paul sentences, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, I'm going to say I too. He's never mentioned me,

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<v Speaker 2>he never even said my name. I'm gonna let you

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<v Speaker 2>know I'm writing there for you. Gais says hello to you.

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<v Speaker 2>He's my host and also serves as host to the

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<v Speaker 2>whole church. Erastus, the city Treasurer, sends you his greetings,

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<v Speaker 2>and so does our brother Cordus. Now all glory to God,

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<v Speaker 2>who's able to make you strong. Just as my good

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<v Speaker 2>News says this message about Jesus, Christ has revealed his

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<v Speaker 2>plan for you gentiles, a plan kept secret from the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning of time. But now, as the Prophet's foretold and

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<v Speaker 2>as the eternal God is commanded, this message is made

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<v Speaker 2>known to all gentiles everywhere, so that they too might

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<v Speaker 2>believe and obey him. All glory to the only Wise

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<v Speaker 2>God through Jesus Christ forever.

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<v Speaker 4>Amen.

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<v Speaker 3>Amen.

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<v Speaker 4>I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's some some belief or some indication that Paul

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<v Speaker 2>had a lot of trouble with his eyesight, and so

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<v Speaker 2>he used writers because if you remember in some of

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<v Speaker 2>the other epistles that he uh said or that he

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<v Speaker 2>wrote at the end, he'd say, hey, now you can

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<v Speaker 2>see I'm signing this in my own handwriting.

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<v Speaker 4>Look how big it is?

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>He mentioned that a couple of times Galatians. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 2>he's signing with his own hand and his big So

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<v Speaker 2>I love how the Book of Romans ends. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>and I think the Holy Spirit just allowed it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a giggle in the Bible where what's the name Gaeish goes,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm signing.

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<v Speaker 4>My name too, I can't read it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's so funny.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just the best.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And uh and so the beginning, the beginning, and of.

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<v Speaker 1>Course Paul's covered this topic and so many other parts

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<v Speaker 1>of his you know, the other book that he's written.

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<v Speaker 3>But he talks about false teachers. He talks about.

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<v Speaker 1>Those teaching contrary to what you know, and he says,

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<v Speaker 1>stay away from them. So there's no there's not a

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<v Speaker 1>new thought to say stay away from false teachers.

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<v Speaker 3>But then I love how.

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<v Speaker 1>He expands and says, such people are not serving Christ,

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<v Speaker 1>our Lord, and they are serving their own personal interests

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<v Speaker 1>by smooth talking, glowing words that deceive innocent people.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting how there are people who not just preachers, not

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<v Speaker 1>just famous people, not just people with titles, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously people with titles who try to manipulate

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<v Speaker 1>and say send your money in and all these different

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<v Speaker 1>things that we've.

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<v Speaker 3>Seen in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>But even I think there's a group of Christians I

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<v Speaker 1>think that seem to somehow.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how to say this.

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<v Speaker 1>I should have thought more before I spoke, But have

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<v Speaker 1>you ever met a person who seems to leverage Christianity

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<v Speaker 1>to make themselves look better? Like they come and they

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<v Speaker 1>play church and they play godly and they make themselves

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<v Speaker 3>And it just sort of reminds me of that group

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<v Speaker 3>of people too. They don't really love God somebody, they

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<v Speaker 3>love how they look when.

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<v Speaker 2>They're you're saying, somebody who's clearly pursuing celebrity Christianity, Yeah, maybe.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a good way to say, look at me, pay

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<v Speaker 4>attention to me. And I know that's not the warning,

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<v Speaker 4>that's not the warning.

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<v Speaker 3>He's warnering false doctrine.

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<v Speaker 2>But there are Christians or people who claim to be Christians,

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<v Speaker 2>who are really very self centered.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I thought of what you said through

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<v Speaker 1>smooth talk and selfishness and deceitfulness. I thought, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there really is a subculture of every once in a while,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll run into that type of person. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that it's important to realize that there are broken people

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<v Speaker 1>that walk into churches, right, And so when you run

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<v Speaker 1>into somebody like that.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't mean the church is bad, right, And it also.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't mean that whenever you see a bad preacher who

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<v Speaker 1>teaches false doctrine and tries to get monetary gain, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that the whole church is bad. It just

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<v Speaker 1>means that, listen, this world is filled with broken people. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>yet that doesn't turn us off from going back to

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<v Speaker 3>But that's a word that I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but he is telling us here, where's it, he says,

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<v Speaker 2>He's telling us to them to be careful about being wise.

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<v Speaker 2>Here in verse nineteen, he says, but everyone knows that

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<v Speaker 2>just our nature. Our nature is to move towards all

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<v Speaker 2>the bad headlines. And he said, listen, what I want

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<v Speaker 2>you to be someone should be innocent, man, You run

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<v Speaker 4>Keep your mind clean and pure, don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Get distracted by all these bad things, and instead focus

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<v Speaker 2>the God of peace right will soon crush, stating on

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<v Speaker 4>So, hey, the.

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<v Speaker 2>God of peace, he'll give you peace when you choose innocence.

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<v Speaker 2>You choose keep an innocent mind, and God will crush.

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<v Speaker 4>The evil one.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what he's saying, right, And so you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>us bee innocence as much as possible. We don't have

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think that it's also really cool that

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<v Speaker 1>Paul uses the word wise to be wise. So you

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<v Speaker 1>know that the word wisdom in the Bible that in

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<v Speaker 3>A her as a personality.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it says whoever gains wisdom and finds her has

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<v Speaker 1>has done a great thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So wisdom is held up.

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<v Speaker 1>As something that is to be desired above almost anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>And to use wisdom is something that is just unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember hearing a story actually hang on a

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<v Speaker 1>sermon series. And by the way, when I went down,

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<v Speaker 1>jester hats, right, But then it eventually when it got released,

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<v Speaker 1>changed it to what is the wise thing to do?

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<v Speaker 1>And the whole series was based on asking that question.

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<v Speaker 1>So think about this the next time you're in a

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of times. It doesn't have to be Oh

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<v Speaker 3>is there reverse for that? You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>What it could be is like asking that question brings

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<v Speaker 1>about everything.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all encompassing.

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<v Speaker 1>It brings about godly principle, it brings about earthly consequence,

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<v Speaker 1>it brings about just practicality. It also brings about commandments,

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<v Speaker 1>it brings about just about everything, and just say, what

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<v Speaker 1>is the wise thing to do? I think that wisdom

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<v Speaker 1>is something to be desired. After all, Remember when God

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<v Speaker 3>Like a magic genie? Right? Think about that?

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<v Speaker 1>If God whether the one like a genie that says,

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<v Speaker 1>what would you desire us all?

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<v Speaker 3>And says wisdom?

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<v Speaker 1>And God says, because you have asked for this, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to make you the wisest man who's ever lived.

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<v Speaker 1>And nobody before you and nobody after you will ever

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<v Speaker 1>ever be as wise as you.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll give you all the other things. I'll give

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<v Speaker 2>you peace in your land, I'll give you wealth, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>give you right I sparre to all those other things,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's where all that comes from, is from wisdom. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So God gave it to him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's really interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>So there isn't an issue here. I think that we

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<v Speaker 4>should bring up.

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<v Speaker 2>Some Christians run around pointing out the problems in everybody else,

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<v Speaker 2>and Paul warns against that, and some Christians have exactly

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<v Speaker 2>the flip side. Oh, everybody's wonderful. Everything's wonderful. We just

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<v Speaker 2>accept everything right. And Paul kind of splits the difference here,

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<v Speaker 2>and so Paul just spent a chapter and a half saying, man,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys are great, My friends are great. All the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that's going on, and the Kingdom of God is great,

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<v Speaker 2>all the churches are greeting you.

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<v Speaker 3>This is all great.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he pauses and says, oh, hey, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>be really careful because there's some bad guys out there too.

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<v Speaker 2>So Paul isn't on the side of everybody's bad. He

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<v Speaker 2>spends way more time in all of his letters complimenting

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<v Speaker 2>and saying good about all the godly people than he

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<v Speaker 2>where everything is good and that there's nothing to watch

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<v Speaker 2>out for. And so he is saying, even in your

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<v Speaker 2>Christian world, the world that you're living in, there are

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<v Speaker 2>people who are false teachers, and you got to watch

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<v Speaker 2>out for that false teaching. And the only way that

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<v Speaker 2>you can really do that is to know what is true.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't study falsehood to know what's false, because there's

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<v Speaker 2>so many ways to make something false. You study truth, right,

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<v Speaker 2>As a matter of fact, it's almost like falsehood's not

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<v Speaker 2>And then falsehood is a reflection of a bad reflection

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<v Speaker 2>of a truth, right right, right, And so so you

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<v Speaker 2>study the truth, you get the best way to know

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<v Speaker 2>what is false is to spend a substantial amount of

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<v Speaker 2>time in the truth. And then the Bible says that

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<v Speaker 2>God will use this Holy Spirit to teach you what

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<v Speaker 2>is true. And then God also uses other believers around

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<v Speaker 2>you to remind you of what is true. So the believers,

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<v Speaker 2>your pastors, your other leaders, your other Christian friends that

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<v Speaker 2>are also astute at knowing what is true in scripture,

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<v Speaker 2>they can remind you of what is true. The Holy

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<v Speaker 2>Spirit convinces you of what is true, and God's word

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what that you know, that reminds me

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<v Speaker 1>of earlier when you said, Paul spent so many chapters

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<v Speaker 1>saying these are good people. You know, everything's good, but

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<v Speaker 1>but it had to be there because it's a danger.

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<v Speaker 3>But yet that wasn't the heart of the focus.

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<v Speaker 4>That's like verses I think five verses.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know what it reminds me of is that

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<v Speaker 1>think about football. So you love football? I love football.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine if two football teams playing against each

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<v Speaker 1>concentrating on the penalties you're right, as opposed to as

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<v Speaker 3>Let's make sure not to do the penalties guys, right, right, But.

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<v Speaker 1>That will free us up to having a fantastic, joyful, meaningful,

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<v Speaker 3>So you focus on the heart of the game.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't win a game if the only thing you

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<v Speaker 4>You have to have plays so to move the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Christians, the Christians who are walking around just

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<v Speaker 3>And you know it's so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody nobody gets at the end of a game and says,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, I'll tell you what, man, it was so

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't commit past interference. And it reminds me of

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<v Speaker 1>the church that I grew up in. Honestly, it felt

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<v Speaker 1>like it felt like everything was about.

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<v Speaker 3>You better not, you better not, you better not, you

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<v Speaker 3>better not. Watch out, don't do this. You kind of

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<v Speaker 1>It's so evil and it's it's like I spent so

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like I had to spend honestly, like ten

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<v Speaker 1>Like rules are just as important now for me, They're

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I get to you know. I went to the

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about people like, Oh, that's gonna be terrible.

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<v Speaker 4>Wound up being fun to watch.

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<v Speaker 3>It was fun to watch because they had so much

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<v Speaker 2>And what was happening is they're all a hot dog

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they did these plays, you know, and somebody

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<v Speaker 1>and you could see the joy of the game, And

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<v Speaker 1>Paul is saying, No, when the church functions and it

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<v Speaker 1>thing this side of heaven.

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<v Speaker 2>So you were not You weren't watching the broadcast. You

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<v Speaker 2>were in the stands, so you didn't know this. The

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<v Speaker 2>commentators got really hung up, and because there were you

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<v Speaker 2>know what three games, right, they played three games. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the commentators got really hung up in one of the

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<v Speaker 2>games that the refs kept calling penalties when the when

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<v Speaker 2>the quarterback would run outside the box and then move

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<v Speaker 2>the ball down the field in an illegal way. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it turns out they couldn't do that play in the box,

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<v Speaker 2>but they could do that play outside the box.

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<v Speaker 4>That was the rules.

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<v Speaker 2>But for whatever reason, the refs kept calling it the

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<v Speaker 2>other way to play, to run that play. They kept

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<v Speaker 2>calling that blowing the whistle. Now they were consistent with it,

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<v Speaker 2>they called it every time, But the commentators got hung

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<v Speaker 2>up on the rule, and it kind of got tedious

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<v Speaker 2>listening to them because I'm watching all the players.

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<v Speaker 4>They didn't care. They were having fun. They were moving

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<v Speaker 4>the ball down the field. There's only what a forty

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<v Speaker 4>yard field the field they was.

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<v Speaker 2>So their bombing, They're running like crazy stuff. The players,

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<v Speaker 2>the joy on their face and the fun that they

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<v Speaker 2>were having moving the ball all and trying to score

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<v Speaker 2>was way better than the commentators getting hung up on

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that the refs.

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<v Speaker 3>Were So I had an entirely different experience than you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was the middle game. It was

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<v Speaker 4>the middle game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm they're live, you're at home, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're hearing. All you're hearing is all the focus on

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<v Speaker 1>the rules.

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<v Speaker 2>So now the commentators weren't wrong, the commentators were right correct,

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<v Speaker 2>But the players were just playing the game that was

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<v Speaker 2>being called, and so they played within those rules, and deep.

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<v Speaker 1>Down inside, whether you knew it or not, what you

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to say is can we just stop talking.

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<v Speaker 4>And can I just flag football game?

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<v Speaker 3>Can I just enjoy the game?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So the obsession with the rules in that moment kind

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<v Speaker 2>of took away from the joy of the goofy game.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, right, which I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't, which, by the way, I think I should

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<v Speaker 1>announce to our listeners that we happen to stumble upon

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<v Speaker 1>sitting right next to Ed McCaffrey, Christian McCaffrey's oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a father who played for the Denver Broncos with John

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<v Speaker 1>Elway as wife, received with Lisa McCaffrey, and so the

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<v Speaker 1>we sat like three seats away from us, and eventually

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<v Speaker 1>we moved toward them, and for like sixty minutes we

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<v Speaker 1>were sitting right next to the fun They talked to

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<v Speaker 1>us the whole time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Christian's great, great football player too.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyways, that's a good place to wrap up.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't so the rules are important, right, but don't make

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<v Speaker 4>the rules. Don't let the rules take away the joy

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<v Speaker 4>of what we're all about.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, that's right. So we will see you next

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<v Speaker 3>time on the Bible, guys,