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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, we're the Bible guys. And if you're just

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<v Speaker 1>tuning in recently, just know that we are showing a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of reruns for a few months, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be back bigger and better than ever on August

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<v Speaker 1>thirty first, because behind the scenes, we're taking a hiatus

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<v Speaker 1>to do some very important things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're building building out a new studio and we've

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<v Speaker 2>got some new structure. Super excited about it. So August

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<v Speaker 2>thirty first, brand new content. But in the meantime, enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>some of our greatest hits.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, Chris, I'm excited about today's episode because we're talking

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<v Speaker 3>about sin and apparently you could just keep on sinning,

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<v Speaker 3>just keep keep on sinning, do whatever you want, like

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<v Speaker 3>live it up right.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Nope, Nope, that's what Paul says. Today. Paul says nope.

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<v Speaker 1>So today he is Kyle. I am Chris, And because

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff is still in India, that's right. We are the

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<v Speaker 1>Bible guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Jeff. We miss you, Yes, we certainly do.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, today, we are actually going to be hosting a

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<v Speaker 1>segment that is a sort of you know, classic It's

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<v Speaker 1>what's what I'm looking for. It's a spinoff spinoff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, because of classic Chris that we're doing a spin off.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet, well, listen, I'm old enough to know what the

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<v Speaker 1>old spinoffs were like. Did you know that Happy Days

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<v Speaker 1>had three spinoffs?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow? You know, I didn't know?

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<v Speaker 1>Idea and la Vernon, Shirley. Have you ever heard of Vernon?

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<v Speaker 1>That was a spinoff from Happy Days?

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<v Speaker 3>For really?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? And then there was an episode there's a thing

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<v Speaker 1>called Jonie Loves Chatzi.

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<v Speaker 3>I've heard the saying before, but I had no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it lasted like one season, and then there

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<v Speaker 1>was a third one. Oh it was Morgan Mindy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, answer real quick, because this is totally unrelated. What's

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<v Speaker 3>your favorite recent spinoff?

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<v Speaker 1>You have?

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<v Speaker 3>Any recent spinoff? Movie, spinoff shows?

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<v Speaker 1>H recent spin offs? Holy Christmas? Recent spinoffs. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>there's one that exists.

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<v Speaker 3>Only when I well know, don't you like the eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>eighty three and all that kind of stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>Or no?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Yeah, yeah, yeah that was a considered spin.

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<v Speaker 1>Was massive spin off. It was a prequel. Okay, but

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<v Speaker 1>but but I mean I guess it could be called

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<v Speaker 1>a spin off. Yeah yeah, actually no, I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think they qualifies, no, because it really was it's

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<v Speaker 1>different today than it was back then. Back then, they

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<v Speaker 1>would take just a character and they would shut down

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<v Speaker 1>that whole storyline and they would sort of build a new,

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<v Speaker 1>a whole new thing based on one character.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I've not seen it, but I've heard that

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<v Speaker 3>the Better Call Saul, which is a spin.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a spin was good. That was great. I

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<v Speaker 1>loved it. I love Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul

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<v Speaker 1>was a great spinoff. I was thinking of Fraser.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Fraser.

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<v Speaker 1>Fraser was a spinoff from Cheers in the eighties. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Fraser's very popular as well. I didn't realize it

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<v Speaker 3>was spin off.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, it was a spinoff from Cheers. Is awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, Well, anyway, so here's the spinoff. Instead of

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<v Speaker 1>what Chris What made Chris mad this week, We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to ask what made Kyle happy this week?

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<v Speaker 3>What made me happy this week? A lot of things.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know something that's a little odd that people

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<v Speaker 3>may not know. I just picked up a new hobby

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<v Speaker 3>last week, literally last week. But over the past month

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<v Speaker 3>or so, my wife and I have been really taking Sabbath,

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<v Speaker 3>taking a Sabbath day seriously as we should as Christians.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not aways easy, you know, to to really focus

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<v Speaker 3>seriously and try to rest from working and rest from

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<v Speaker 3>technology that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And so explain, explain the concept of what what do

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<v Speaker 1>you mean when you say the word sabbath.

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<v Speaker 3>So Sabbath, you know, it's part of a commandment, something

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus even honored. But the idea of taking one out

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<v Speaker 3>of the seven days a week and just taking a

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<v Speaker 3>time just to I sent you. I mean, it looks

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<v Speaker 3>different for a lot of people, but for us, it's

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<v Speaker 3>this time of no work. It's a time of kind

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<v Speaker 3>of resting in God's presence and whatever that looks like.

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<v Speaker 3>So some people do, you know, maybe a spiritual retreat

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<v Speaker 3>or get away or they're do a bobber reading thing

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<v Speaker 3>or you know, no devices, whatever it may be. But

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<v Speaker 3>and then a lot of people sometimes in the sabbath

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<v Speaker 3>will may be fast and there's a lot of spiritual

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<v Speaker 3>implications for fasting and that sort of thing. So for us,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just you know, a twenty four hour span where

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<v Speaker 3>we you know, try to refrain from working, right and

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<v Speaker 3>focus on God and just enjoy his goodness. But Anyways,

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<v Speaker 3>uh So, one of the things I did because we're

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<v Speaker 3>trying to go technology free is last week my wife

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<v Speaker 3>bought me a Sudoku book, and it makes me feel

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<v Speaker 3>like a boomer playing sudoku. But it's funny because now

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like hooked on Sudoku. Do you know, do you

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<v Speaker 3>ever play Sudoku or any.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the crosswords or any of those types of things?

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<v Speaker 1>Not really?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So Sudoku, it's just basically it's similar to a

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<v Speaker 3>crossword puzzle and those types of things. But something about it,

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<v Speaker 3>even though maybe I'm working a little bit, because it

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<v Speaker 3>feels like I'm working my brain a little bit, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>doing it, but something about it just feels nice to

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<v Speaker 3>sit there with an actual book, like a physical book

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<v Speaker 3>and a pencil and write things, sound things down. And

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<v Speaker 3>so if you're somebody who's into Sudoku, crossword, any of

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<v Speaker 3>those types of things, you know, message me let me know,

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<v Speaker 3>or if you see me at church or see me around,

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<v Speaker 3>let me know. I would like to I do wordle.

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<v Speaker 3>You do wordle?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I on your phone though, yeah on the phone,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's kind of nice for you to just like,

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<v Speaker 3>for a minute, just like work your brain a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit and it's it's different. Yeah. Sure, So this is

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<v Speaker 3>the sudoku and again not doing it digitally, just doing

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<v Speaker 3>it with the book. And so that that's made me happy.

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<v Speaker 3>I discovered a new hobby that I enjoy. That thing

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<v Speaker 3>is going to bring me peace for the next stuck

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of.

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<v Speaker 1>Weeks in these weeks until it doesn't exactly. That's really funny. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So by the way, just since we opened the can

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<v Speaker 1>of worms, you know, so remember the Sabbath day and

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<v Speaker 1>keep it holy was a very specific command given to

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, just hundreds of commands that were actually given

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<v Speaker 1>and I had to do with them specifically, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, we would never try to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>go collect manna. Right, There's so many things that were

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<v Speaker 1>just given to them as commands for their situation. And

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<v Speaker 1>so the principle of the Sabbath is what we think

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<v Speaker 1>is important because I believe that even though that our

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<v Speaker 1>days and our rituals and everything else, it doesn't fall

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<v Speaker 1>into the you know, the Hebrews. However, the principle of

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<v Speaker 1>remembering a Sabbath day and keeping it holy was if

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<v Speaker 1>you read all the way through the Old Testament describes

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<v Speaker 1>how the purpose is to rest, yes right, and to

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<v Speaker 1>renew and everything else. And so, by the way, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why Seventh day Adventists would say that the

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<v Speaker 1>true Sabbath is on Saturday, like that's a big point

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<v Speaker 1>of contention for them, and whereas like Christianity would say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter the day, But actually we celebrated on

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday for one reason, because Jesus rose again on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>So our choice of Sabbath went towards Sunday. But the

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<v Speaker 1>principle of practicing a sabbath for you and me, it

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<v Speaker 1>is hard to do on Sunday because we work so

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<v Speaker 1>hard on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, So you got to find some other times, right, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Because when you decided to go into full time vacational ministry,

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<v Speaker 1>then that all of a sudden becomes a time where

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<v Speaker 1>you're not obeying a sabbath, you're really working hard, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for honestly other people's sabbath.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't know something crazy about you mentioned a Seventh

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<v Speaker 3>day Adventist. So it's a denomination that takes that Sabbath

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<v Speaker 3>very seriously, like it's religiously right. Maybe sure to be extreme,

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<v Speaker 3>it's very very serious. But the crazy thing is there

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<v Speaker 3>studies a show that when you look at the average

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<v Speaker 3>life span of a human an American, right, and you

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<v Speaker 3>compare that to somebody who has been practicing in that

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<v Speaker 3>you know, that denomination and really takes that seriously the Sabbath.

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<v Speaker 3>They say that Seventh day Adventists live on average of

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<v Speaker 3>seven years more than the average person. And if you

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<v Speaker 3>do seven years and if you do the math on

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<v Speaker 3>that essentially is like almost like it's giving them more

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<v Speaker 1>So the message is if you want to live long longer,

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<v Speaker 3>A day off, just convert. Yeah, I was gonna say,

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<v Speaker 3>practice sabbath.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's the principle of stress free. Isn't that funny? Huh?

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<v Speaker 1>How stressed it was meant for us.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the thing is people try to use it as

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<v Speaker 3>a you know, obviously like a religion or rule or

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<v Speaker 3>whatever that sort of thing, but it was the Sabbath

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<v Speaker 3>was designed for us as something God blessed. I just

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<v Speaker 3>hard for us. I know for you you're the same way.

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<v Speaker 3>You're like a fast moving dude. It's very hard to

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<v Speaker 3>slow down. But it's very important.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's awesome, very good. So today we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Roman chapter six, verses one through twenty three, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about sin's power being broken, and we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to read through the entire chapter and Paul is going

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<v Speaker 1>to just continue on with this idea of sin and

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<v Speaker 1>what it means for our lives.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, Well, then should we keep on sinning so

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<v Speaker 3>that God can show us more and more of his

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<v Speaker 3>wonderful grace? Of course not or as Chris said earlier, Nope,

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<v Speaker 3>since we have died to sin, how can we continue

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<v Speaker 3>to live in it? Or have you forgotten that when

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<v Speaker 3>we were joined with Christ, Jesus and Baptism, we joined

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<v Speaker 3>him and his death. For we died and we were

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<v Speaker 3>buried with Christ by baptism. And just as Christ was

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<v Speaker 3>raised from the dead by the glorious power of the Father,

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<v Speaker 3>now we also may live new lives since we have

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<v Speaker 3>been unified with Him and his death. We will also

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<v Speaker 3>be raised to life as he was. We know that

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<v Speaker 3>our old sinful selves were crucified with Christ so that

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<v Speaker 3>sin might lose its power in our lives. We're no

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<v Speaker 3>Don't you realize that you become the slave of whatever

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<v Speaker 3>now you are free from the power of sin, and

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<v Speaker 3>For the wages of sin is death. But the free

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<v Speaker 3>gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus our Lord. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>in this week. The Romans Road that that final one

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<v Speaker 3>for our mistakes. It was death. But the free gift

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<v Speaker 1>lays out salvation through the truths that Paul's laying out here.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what that's what Kyle's refern to do. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so he starts out with the question should

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<v Speaker 1>show more of us of his wonderful grace. Of course not.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's so interesting, isn't it? Because he had just

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<v Speaker 1>make you righteous. Right, It wasn't that way with Abraham.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen that there were people who died before the law

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<v Speaker 1>it's not by works, you know, all these different things.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's laying out, you know, that idea. But then

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<v Speaker 1>that the law does have its purpose and that actually

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<v Speaker 1>we should obey the law. We should strive to obey

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<v Speaker 1>the law. It's just that the law is not a

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<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't mean that the law is discarded, doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean the law is thrown out right. So that's why

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<v Speaker 1>he asked the question, you know, is the law useless. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what he's asking. He's saying, like, does that mean

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<v Speaker 1>that God no longer cares about our righteous living, our commandments,

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<v Speaker 1>our obedience, you know, all the things that God wants

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<v Speaker 1>us to do. Shall we just continue to just do

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<v Speaker 1>what God doesn't want us to do because we have grace?

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<v Speaker 1>And then of course he says, of course.

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<v Speaker 3>Not right. And it makes me think too, the word

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<v Speaker 3>lot of times people think of the word sanctification, which

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<v Speaker 3>like Christ. And I think this chapter, the word sanctified

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<v Speaker 3>means to be set apart. Yeah, set apart. And so

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<v Speaker 3>these this chapter, and I think the next few chapters,

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<v Speaker 3>even in which we're going to continue out in the future,

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<v Speaker 3>And this is this idea that as you get closer

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<v Speaker 3>to Him and you're set apart, you're becoming more and

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<v Speaker 3>more and more. And I think it's it's funny because

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<v Speaker 3>he's talking about the opposite for so many people, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they may know the truth, but yet they're keep on sinning,

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<v Speaker 3>and their sins just keep on separating them. And he

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<v Speaker 3>even talks about the idea of you know, some people

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<v Speaker 3>idea of looking back and realizing you kind of threw

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<v Speaker 3>look back, Man, I wish I would have done those things.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's saying, well, what if you would have just,

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<v Speaker 3>accepted that free gift and started living this holy, blameless,

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<v Speaker 3>sanctified life. So he's really talking about the importance of

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<v Speaker 1>He's giving these the introducing the idea of baptism through

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus' death in the Resurrection is an entirely different way

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<v Speaker 1>free from sin, obey, obey, obey, And what Paul is saying, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>the laws there, we don't want to keep sinning. But

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<v Speaker 1>the power of sin, that actually you're no longer a

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<v Speaker 1>slave to sin. And by the way, where you thinking

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<v Speaker 1>of the song? Yeah, yeah, no longer slaves to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So anyway, but when he talks about that, I

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<v Speaker 1>love the word picture of baptism. So again, let's just

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<v Speaker 1>talk about baptism for a minute. Right, So we have

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<v Speaker 1>in our church baptism coming up in like ten days, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and we baptize what three hundred and sixty people, three

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<v Speaker 3>sixty five. And oh that's kind of We're like, it.

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<v Speaker 1>And when we baptize at our church, we take somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and we and we help them go under

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<v Speaker 1>the water and then we don't hold them there. We

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<v Speaker 1>raised to walk in newness of life, or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>raised to walk in the resurrection of Christ. And Paul

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<v Speaker 1>because as we believe that Jesus was immersed John the

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<v Speaker 1>baptized John the Baptist baptized Jesus, and it says that

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<v Speaker 1>he put him under the water, and then he straightway

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<v Speaker 1>he came up out of the water, and so we do.

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<v Speaker 1>And then and then also here Roman chapter six that

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<v Speaker 1>the earth, he would have to be lowered into, in

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<v Speaker 1>this case a cave or a grave. Right, we see

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<v Speaker 1>the earth. And then what happens in Jesus' case is

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<v Speaker 1>And then what happened was he rose from the grave

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<v Speaker 1>proving that he is power over sin. And so Paul

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<v Speaker 1>is saying that, Okay, the person you used to be,

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<v Speaker 1>the sinful person you used to be, your sin was

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<v Speaker 1>symbolically your sins went away, right and you were raised

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<v Speaker 1>to walk as a new person.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's verly cool. It's really cool. And even even

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<v Speaker 3>And it's this idea that as we come to know

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus more, we understand the depths in which you went

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<v Speaker 3>on to just keep on sinning and accept his forgiveness.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's to see change heart.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>those listening to the mother. But so it's like high control,

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<v Speaker 3>on you, but there's really no relationship. As kids get older, right,

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<v Speaker 3>there are starting to be a shift where almost like

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<v Speaker 3>almost like friends, right, we have to have a strong relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>so the key then is to shift from control to relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you have a hot if you're high in relationship,

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<v Speaker 3>that's kind of you know, the way the things shift.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think in the same way when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to God, as we get closer to him, it's all

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<v Speaker 3>about relationship and trust in him. And therefore I obey him,

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<v Speaker 3>not because I have to. I have free will. I

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<v Speaker 3>could choose, but I'm choosing to obey him and to

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<v Speaker 3>be sanctified and to draw closer to him because my

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<v Speaker 3>relationship with him and I want to be closer to him. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, there's another way to say that too.

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<v Speaker 1>I teach that same principle. The words I have always

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<v Speaker 1>loved is as a parent. You know, you actually parent

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<v Speaker 1>from a position you say because I'm mom, because I'm dad,

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<v Speaker 1>and somewhere along the way you have to transition from

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<v Speaker 1>position to influence. So if your words carry weight, you

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<v Speaker 1>said relationship, right. I like the word influence because relationship

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully exists the whole time, even when you're a parent.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when you say because I'm dad, hopefully that's

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<v Speaker 1>relational too. But position to influence is when they're twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>and to be honest with you, it actually starts when

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<v Speaker 1>they're like thirteen, twelve year old, and so hopefully have to.

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<v Speaker 1>So one of our counselors that used to serve on

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<v Speaker 1>our old staff used to say that as a parent,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to just live in the question instead of

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<v Speaker 1>saying I'm going to tell you what to do. What

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<v Speaker 1>you do is you sort of ask them and you

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<v Speaker 1>sort of live in the question and you start to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, transition to that seat of influence. Because when

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<v Speaker 1>they graduate and they leave, they leave out of your house.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to be able to say, hey, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to say, I'm going to say a sentence to you,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to still maintain so much influence in

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<v Speaker 1>your life that you're going to still listen to me. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not through because I'm Dad, it's because I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I matter in your life.

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<v Speaker 3>That's good.

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<v Speaker 1>So to go from position influence.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that's kind of how God is really,

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<v Speaker 3>all the ways he's influence, he's influenced, he's set, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>sent his son to be the ultimate influence. And therefore

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<v Speaker 3>we don't do these things. We don't try to live

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<v Speaker 3>for him out of obligation or duty or the law whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>We do it out of love. It's it's the relationship,

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<v Speaker 3>it's the influence.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, you can almost classify that as Old Testament

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<v Speaker 1>New Testament.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't you exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me just go ahead and say that there's a

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<v Speaker 1>we Love our Life application study Bibles. And there's a

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<v Speaker 1>section in here that breaks down everything we just read

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<v Speaker 1>from chapter six, verses number one, all the way through

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<v Speaker 1>in this case for summer sixteen. And it has three categories,

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<v Speaker 1>and it basically says, hey, verses two or six is

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<v Speaker 1>one category. Five through eleven is the other category twelve

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<v Speaker 1>or sixteen, and it says Paul talks about new life,

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<v Speaker 1>a new nature, and then new freedom, and so under

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<v Speaker 1>new life. When he talks about new life, he says,

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<v Speaker 1>sins power is broken. Your sin loving nature has been buried,

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<v Speaker 1>and you no longer under sins control. That's why you

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<v Speaker 1>have new life. When he talks about new nature, he says,

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<v Speaker 1>now you share Jesus Christ new life. Your old self

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<v Speaker 1>is dead. Instead, you are alive to God. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>new nature. And then new freedom, and the next four

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<v Speaker 1>verses he says, do not let sin control you give

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<v Speaker 1>yourself completely to God. You are free and you can

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<v Speaker 1>choose your own master. Gosh. I just love that. That's good,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is pretty extreme that it uses the word slavery.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's important to know that just because slavery existed

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<v Speaker 1>in the Bible, and Paul mentioned slavery because it was

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<v Speaker 1>a part of the culture, doesn't mean that he condoned slavery, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, just just as polygamy, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>existed in the Bible, people had multiple wives and even

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<v Speaker 1>even God the people did. But but God never said

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<v Speaker 1>that was a good thing, every right. He actually, in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>whenever he spoke on it, he actually spoke of being

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<v Speaker 1>a man of one wife, right, So he never condoned it.

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<v Speaker 1>So the point is is that Paul uses the reference

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<v Speaker 1>and he says, I'm doing this because of your feeble minds.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm using this because you could understand the word picture.

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<v Speaker 1>And Paul, as I mentioned before, is a He's a

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<v Speaker 1>phenomenal word picture person. He's a visual learner.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, well, some people as soon as he said this

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<v Speaker 3>being a slave, this sin versus slave to was he

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<v Speaker 3>said at the end of some of the slave to

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<v Speaker 3>basically following god like pain. In the contrast, there is

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<v Speaker 3>just and the word.

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<v Speaker 1>Slave he used very specifically is bond servant right to

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<v Speaker 1>actually be to be tied to it with your life

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<v Speaker 1>because of debt. Debt paid, so it's really cool. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's a great word picture. I think that that's a

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<v Speaker 1>good place to end, just knowing that God has freed

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<v Speaker 1>us from sin, and just as we've been baptized and

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<v Speaker 1>we have shown our commitment to Christ, that we are

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<v Speaker 1>free from the power of sin that enslaves us.

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<v Speaker 3>It's right.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, that's good for today and we will see

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<v Speaker 1>you hopefully on Monday on the Bible.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys, see you