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Welcome to the Energetic Radio podcast. This episode is brought to you by

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the school of play dotco, hosted by Dale Sibonham and Paul

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Campbell. Each week, we'll bring to you tips, strategies, and ideas on

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how you can bring more joy and happiness into your life, and those you share

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with. G'day, everyone, and welcome

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back to the Energetic Radio podcast episode

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346. My name is Paul Campbell, and I'm joined by the

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ever energetic mister Dale Sidebottom. How you going, mate? Bully, very good,

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mate. Ready to rock and roll. Ready to rock and roll? I am. Good to

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hear. We've had a massive couple of weeks. We have. Things are good. Things are

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busy. That's always what we like in our world. Busy is always good, isn't it?

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It'd be scary if we weren't busy and, that If we're not busy, we're not

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earning and we're not living and then we can't support our families and it's a

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quick slow And then the lives aren't happy. Then we can't work

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together. Exactly right. That'll be good to know. Podcast, but it's not gonna be all

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negative. We're excited. This is very true. And I'll tell you what, we've had a

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couple of cracking weeks that have gone past with some really exciting, I

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guess, moments in our personal lives, but more importantly in our business lives. And, just

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wanna share a few tell you what's been going on. I'm gonna start with the

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most important one and the probably the biggest one we've done for a while, and

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that was our Elevate Your Life evening in Parkdale.

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We haven't released it to the world yet. We obviously had guests come along

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too, but we haven't done a lot of social media posts and and released it

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to the world. But, we're waiting for the videographer to come along and that footage

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is gonna be absolutely epic and we can't wait for that. But we

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most definitely were able to share a really impressive

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evening, with some, I guess, some guests and family and friends and

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some complete strangers, which made it all worthwhile. So we booked

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out the Shirley Burke Theatre over in Parkdale, and we created an event called Elevate

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Your Life, and we shared Dallas shared the stage with mister Paul Watkins.

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But yeah. How do you feel it went, mate? Yeah. I was, I

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loved it. Once well, there and once it was on. Not gonna lie,

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caused me a lot of stress and anxiety leading up, just

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with the responsibility of selling tickets. And then, like, oh, we hadn't

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sold many tickets. And then you're like, oh, is this a failure? Or, like, the

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the stories you tell yourself in your head, like and I think that's why I

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haven't done anything like this for a while because every time I do something like

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this, the same thing happens. But we finally got to the night,

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and incredible venue. Yeah. And it was something that I was

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pretty excited about because it was something I wanted to do for a long time

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Mhmm. And put together and, to look around when we're

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in those pretty fancy joint. We're in this, like, crazy merry like that. And I

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was looking through, like, the side door, and you could see a camera of everyone

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coming in. And I looked around the stage and the crowd, and

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probably about 90% of the people there were, like, friends and family or of of

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mine. Yeah. That made me super nervous, like,

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in a in a good way because a lot of these people, you know, they've

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supported me along the journey. And more importantly, it's always I've always found it

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really hard to articulate what I do until you've actually seen it.

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So it was lovely to be able to have them all in there and experience

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it. Yeah. Well, I think you feel more anxious because when you are doing

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your thing on stage, we're running workshops, whatever it might be, it's to complete

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strangers. But once you're doing it to your friends and family, you feel

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as though you're more judged. You know what I mean? That they're finally seeing what

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I've been doing for the last 8 years because they would have seen snippets of

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it. Right? Yeah. But not the full hour show or the full the full fun

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shop and the full experience. And, you know what I mean? When you're doing it

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to your family and friends, like, holy crap. They're gonna judge finally judge and see

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what I'm doing. I hope they like it. Yep. And let me tell you, the

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feedback was unbelievable. The feedback, the feeling in the room, the

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standing ovations, you know, and I loved it. I have a

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few mates from footy that came along, and they came along and said, you know

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what? We came along because there was good blokes running it, and we wanted to

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support you guys, but we didn't know that we needed things to take from it.

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Yeah. And that's when I was like, that's move 1. You know what I mean?

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That's when the event you put together with Paul and those footy guys are

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going, I didn't know I needed that session. It's like, the message I got

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through was absolutely brilliant. Mhmm. Alright. Yeah. A little story of myself.

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I went running the set next to my mom. My mom came along, shout out

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Julie. And we're playing some of the gratitude games.

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And, you know, she got a little bit emotional there at one stage when we're

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sharing things with each other, and it allowed us to

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connect on a bit of a deeper level. And we talk all the time, but,

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yeah, the the fun shop you ran allowed us to feel safe, and we connect

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on a really deep level. We shared some beautiful things with each other. And it

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was one of those moments in time that I'm gonna cherish forever. Yep. So, mate,

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epic. You know, it was unreal. It's one of those things that, I

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get to see the impact it's having and the conversations that take place where I

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never get to hear them. And at the start, when I was doing it, it

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always sounded that really hard because, you know, some people would start crying or different

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things and, like, they're good tears, but you don't know. Yeah. And it's I've

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always thought I would love to be able to share that same experience with my

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mom or dad or Brie or, you know, somebody like that in my life, because

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I see the impact it has on others. That's true. And I know I'll never

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get that opportunity because I'll know what's coming in. Obviously,

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spoiler alert, we created it. So, but, yeah, for me, it was

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lovely to be able to see something that's, you know, been built over 8 years.

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It hasn't always been that. And I think some people in the crowd, like mom

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and dad, I flew them to Tassie when I ever had my first ever keynote.

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So Right. I've never even done a keynote before. I didn't even so keynote's where

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you're, like, you're the sort of main speaker. People sit for an hour and they

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listen to you. And it was alright. Like, people enjoyed it. But from

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where I've come from now to how polished it is Yeah. It's like

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completely Yeah. Did they did they make comment on that? Did they talk about how

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the growth you've shown? No. They didn't. No. No. The The The The The The

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The The The The The The The The The

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The The The The The game. Throws me at every time. Oh, so no. I

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know they're proud of me though and the the growth I've obviously had and things

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like that. But personally, just myself, like, the whole I still remember. I

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don't know if I've shared this story before, but the first conference I ever spoke

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at was in Dubai. And I went over there and, it was a 2 day

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conference, and I was one of the 8 master class speakers. So I had

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8 master classes and had 4 keynote speakers. And I still I'd never even

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been to a conference. So and I was speaking at 1, I didn't even know

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what I was doing. Yeah. Hey. I remember seeing through his keynotes, that's pretty

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cool. And like, they're the that's what people were talking about. And they were like

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the main thing about it. And I always said to myself, I'm going to do

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that one day. Like, that's what I'm going to do. And it was always a

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goal. Yeah. And now And now you've achieved it. Right? Oh, now, like, for

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example, last week we did 3 of them in a week. Yeah. You know, at

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different conferences and different places. And, yes, for me We'll get to that one down

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the track as well because there's one man I've got a corker story from you

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guys, ladies and gentlemen. For me personally as an individual, I think that night at

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Parkdale was such a lovely experience to be able to share what I do with

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so many people, but also for me to be able to realize where I've

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been able to come from, and I'm gonna create something that's a bit different than

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anyone else, and it works. Yeah. Yeah. And

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so, yeah, I I do sit back and remember when I was sitting there in

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Dubai and I said I'm gonna do this, and I've been able to do it.

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And I think I've been able to do it in my way, and I've been

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told along along the way that you probably can't do it that way, or it

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might not work, or that's not the traditional way of doing it. Yep. Yeah.

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So to see the impact it has on people, it's yeah. I I was really

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proud of that personally as an individual. And it was nice for me to say

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that you're a human being. Like, you've been doing this for 8 years. Right? You've

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spoken into incredible crowds and whatnot. But I think the fact that

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people were parting with their their own hard earned. Yeah. Do you know what I

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mean? They were giving up their own time. It wasn't a corporate gig that booked

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us in. Everyone was getting paid to be there. They've given up their time, their

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hard earned, and it was your friends and family. And I think that just was

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like, holy crap. This is you. I'm I'm you were nervous. Of course. It was

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nice of me to see you bloody nervous, I'll be honest. I was pacing. I

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didn't know how pisses. I was like I know you were. You were pacing. I

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know more than that would change when I'm looking at the TV screen. How long

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did you reckon it took you to settle? I'd say once

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those games that's what I like. I played games at the start. Yeah. Like,

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because any big gig I am nervous. Not as nervous as I was there. Mhmm.

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But I reckon once I have 2 or 3 of those I play 3. Yeah.

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I reckon by 2. The 3rd when I do the this game called happy face,

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mean face, and I get them to do that, that's when I'm on. Yeah. Like,

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that's when I'm bit I still speak very fast, but,

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I slow down a little bit, and I'm in more control, and I sort of

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get in flow and really enjoy it. Yep. Yeah. No. I loved it. Loved it.

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It was, it was a highlight of my time in the business so far, to

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be honest. Yeah. Well, thank you and you did a great job as emcee as

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well. Thank you. If, for those people who have emcee'd before, it's it's a very

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hard gig because you can really only get it wrong, I feel. Yeah. And you

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gotta try and link what's going on. Right? You gotta think on your feet and

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try and link what's going on. It's hard. It's hard. And, yeah, I was a

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bit nervous as well, to be honest with you, because I had some friends and

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family in the crowd also. And, but, yeah, I just didn't wanna I guess I

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didn't wanna stuff up your your major night. You asked me to do

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the gig. It was like, but no. I think it all came together incredibly well,

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and we honestly can't wait to share, you know, some of the footage we've got.

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Yep. Once that videographer gets it gets stuck to us, we can't

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wait. And we've been, I've had a few people ask when we're gonna do the

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next one, and the honest response is

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maybe not. No. We're gonna like, we might do one again, but obviously, there's a

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lot of work involved in, yeah. Talk about stress that you probably

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don't need in your life. And unfortunately, it doesn't matter how

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I go about doing one of these. It's just byproduct of how I'm wired.

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Yep. So, yeah. I'd love to say we'll do another one, but at the moment,

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we don't really know. So We don't know. We're tossed up with the idea of

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potentially doing one of school holidays so that families and kids can come along and

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aim aim at that generation, but stay tuned, I guess. We'll see what happens there.

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I wanna talk about, really it's a funny moment in our lives

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together so far was our road trip. We, we went on a road trip

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together out to Timboon and and Colac and Geelong and,

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not one word of a lie. Got up at 4 in the morning, drove to

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Timboon, 10 minutes before society is due to jump on stage and

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talk in front of a 180, adolescents. He's grabbed himself a

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spew bucket and he's like, Cambo, I'm not feeling too good here, mate.

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And I was like, what? And he's killed over. And he's sitting there with the

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spew bucket 5 minutes from the stage. I'm like, oh, my lord. This is not

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gonna go down well. But to your credit, somehow pulled your

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shit together and put on the game face and absolutely rocked the show,

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mate. But, mate, that was a for me, it was an

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awesome time for you. I think it was a tumultuous time. It was a horrendous

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week. Obviously, having couple of young kids, one in daycare and one in

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kinder. I knew I was in for it when one come home spewing on the

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Friday, and that was just before the the public gig we had. And I'm

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like, oh, please don't get sick for that. But, yeah, slept all weekend

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cleaning sheets and as any parent would know. And then we got in the

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car and luckily you drove and I slept there and then I spoke and

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then I slept that night. And then I ring Colac and I didn't get out

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of we had to book another motel room. So I slept in a I

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slept from, I think, 10 o'clock that night to 5 PM the next

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day. Had a shower. Anyway, we don't need to hear about the

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stories but But what I like to relate this story to

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is we had obviously Paul Watkins on our show on the Friday night and then

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his main story is all about grit and determination. You know, he just

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tricks through the Arctic Circle. And then he's siding 10 minutes before he's due

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to go on with the spew back in your hand. I'm like, mate, find your

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grit. Yeah. He's like Oh, dear. F off. Yeah. But he

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definitely found his grit. And knowing that, that we that culminated in

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a in a keynote that Saudi did with 330 people at

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GHMBH Stadium. GMHBA Stadium. That's the one. Yeah. And, in

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July. Yeah. And same deal again. It was out of sorts like none of my

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own bereft of energy. I was worse and that's the worst I've ever

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been. I could only keep my eyes open. Yeah. I thought at one stage I

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was gonna have to pretend to be you and get up and get up and

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pretend to be Dale Sighthbottom and do a keynote in front of 330 people. Oh,

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the hardest thing was that it was obviously a big dinner and we're there beforehand,

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myself. The hardest thing was that it was obviously a big dinner, and we're there

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beforehand, and we're on the main table, and people wanna talk to

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you. And I literally just didn't wanna be there. I didn't wanna talk, and I

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wanted to save any bit of energy I had. But then you I was trying

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to force myself to eat, and I hadn't eaten in over 24 hours. And

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then you get up on stage, and I normally sweat like there's no

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tomorrow. I didn't have an ounce to sweat anywhere. Dehydration. And that's I'm

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like, oh, you're not in a good place either. No. Not at all.

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Yeah. I knew you went I knew you went right when you left half your

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eye, Philip. Oh, that was so hard to chew down.

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That never happens. Right? No. It doesn't. So And then, and then

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in in another eventful twist of tales in a in a week

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that was not so much my week, but definitely your week.

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Dale and another one of our guys who were cranes with a gentleman

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named Brad is have written a children's book. The children's

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book is called The Play Flashnaught. I'm supposed to be called The

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Play Flashnaught. It's supposed to be called The Play Flashnaught. And we can't wait to

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get it. My kids are looking forward to reading it, and it was supposed to

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come out anytime now, but It was supposed to be out a month ago. Yeah.

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And I remember when we signed with this, this

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publishing company. The the contract and the guy was

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just so shady. But we've been working on this for a long time, and,

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I had another mate that published a couple of books with me because it's alright.

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Like, they they get the job done. Yep. Anyway, so Brad and myself had this

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meeting, and it just felt all wrong. And Brad goes, up to you, mate, but

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that guy's not right, and there's something not right. Anyway, I said, no, we're

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gonna go through with it. So I paid the $7 and, he just

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kept delaying things. And he was so all over the shop, and the way he

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spoke to us was just like, I've never been spoken to in my life like

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this. Anyway, I kept pushing back our date, pushing back our dates. He's gone on

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2 years. So one of the main reasons for those public events was

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was going to be our launch secret sort of launch of our children's book, The

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Playful Astronaut. Anyway, week before

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yeah. Found out that company gone into liquidation.

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The guy that we thought his name was Brad Shaw was he had about 3

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other aliases, he'd been bankrupt 3 other times, and he was a

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serial con man. So How crazy is that? You hear these stories, right,

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about happening to people, but the elaborate nature of this Crazy.

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Like a whole book deal and meeting with them and There was 5 or 600

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hundred other people that he'd done the same thing to over this year and a

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half period. Holy crap. Yeah. So, anyway, I wasn't phased

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about the money. I was just more, like, I wanted to read like you. I

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wanted to read the book to me boys. My kids are hanging for the book.

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I'm hanging for the book. We put, like, 4 years of work into it. Yeah.

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So anyway, we're like, it's not as if we're, like, stalling. We're trying to figure

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out what the next movie is, but it's not as easy as that. The whole

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reason we wanted to go with publisher is we didn't want to self publish.

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Yeah. Right. We don't wanna be in charge of b to c, like, business to

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customer and sending out books and things like that.

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Yeah. So I was not gonna lie, I was pretty deflated by the whole experience,

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and just pretty sad to be honest. Because not only is it something I

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was really proud of and I've been able to create with Brad, my mentor, and

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friend. It was gonna be sort of something we could celebrate together. We've put so

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much work into it. It's just a really weird feeling. I must admit

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nothing like this has ever happened to me before. And it's you know, it's crap.

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It's when you go out and you you your life orientation is to treat people

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well, build positive relationships. That's what your life it's the same with Brad's. And,

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and then you come across a, you know, scumbag in the earth. He was. And

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he's just He's a fake alias name in this whole That's the way he treated

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people. Like, in I've heard more, obviously, I've spoken to people at the

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company and, you know, I've read articles on him and just a

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really nasty person. Yeah. And what he's done to

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people. Like, I'm actually pretty fortunate that, you know,

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that $7, like, it do you know what I mean? It it can be replaced.

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Yeah. Like, we weren't relying on it. Whereas other people that have done books, like,

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they'd saved up and, like, it meant a big deal that they'd have to

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force to get that money. Can you imagine if that was their first one? Like,

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for you guys, this is your second book they publish. Imagine if this is your

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first one, and that's their experiment. It would be because it's a little indie publisher.

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Like, it's not your big your big big times. Because for anyone that's ever

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tried to publish a kid's book, it you can't even get a meeting. You'll find

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that most books out there now are written by celebrities,

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or comedians, or different things like that, or a well known author. You have

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to go through sort of one of these indie sort of channels to get that

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exposure. Even I've got not a bad name and Brad as well, but Yeah.

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It doesn't matter. Like, they just want they want the name so that no

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books will sell, which I completely get. Yeah. So, anyway, I I

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understand the process now, and we're trying a few other things, but, yeah, it probably

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wasn't, the nicest experience to go through. It really

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it made me quite sad. Is that the that's the word I'd reflect on. And

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that's fair enough. And you're thinking about going through those small indie publishers. I wonder

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what makes a book absolutely blow up and go worldwide. Hey. Like, the person getting

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their first chance at it Yeah. And then it blows up and goes worldwide.

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It's phenomenal, isn't it? But Yes. But it's like it's probably like I don't know.

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There'd be algorithms or something to it, like Yeah. I don't know if you look

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at what makes TikTokers or YouTube or, I don't know,

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what makes people go viral. Like, there's something unique about it.

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Yeah. And word-of-mouth, and it goes in there. And once one word-of-mouth starts, it just

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spreads like, wow, that doesn't work. Worst form of, marketing. Yeah. I like that best

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and worst form. Well, it is. Yeah. It can obviously be detrimental,

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if the word-of-mouth isn't very good or Yeah. You've given people not a good

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experience, but vice versa, if you've done the opposite, and I

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think it's fortunate our business is going quite well because we've been able to build

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a good reputation over years, and then word-of-mouth does become your best friend. So

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Yeah. I agree. Anyway, there's enough, like, like, crazy stories about me.

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How have you been, mate? I've been well. Thanks, mate. Been doing a lot of

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driving, honestly. I've been doing a lot of driving. My My my turn to do

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a bit of driving for now. That's alright. I'm happy to take the wheel and

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let you let you sleep and get through your I'm just, mate, I'm just bloody

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proud of my immune system that I somehow spent so much time in a

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capsule with you in a car I know. Breathing in whatever you've been

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breathing out. And, I'm very grateful you didn't leave many farts going in the car,

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so thanks doing that, mate. But I'm afraid I wasn't farting. No.

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Oh, I was holding those in because they weren't farts. Yeah. Anyway No,

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mate. I think I'm the complete opposite of you. You've been burning the candle at

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both ends, dealing with gastro, public events, road trips, trying to

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get our new you know, you've literally been keeping us above water with the new

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website, the new curriculum, and that's coming together incredibly well and we're super excited to

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share that with the world. And so you've been burning your candle at both ends.

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And little on me over here is family's good, life's good, sunshine, no

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gastro, kinda sitting here in bare feet, like

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swimming. So, I definitely can't complain, mate. And, life has been

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really good and the kids and everyone doing awesome. And I've been pondering

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something, you know, me, I love to listen. I love to learn. I'm an infant

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and a learner. And, and I've been pondering something like that that struck

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a chord with me. It was on a podcast with Simon Sinek and it was

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about, he just brought up a comment about, imagine if the in

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the world, everyone treated their relationships like they do their cell

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phones. The world would be a much better place. I know this is a random

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topic to talk, but you must what's been on my mind lately? And and I

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was like, holy shit, that is such a good thought provoker.

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Then imagine if we treated our relationships like we do our

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phones. You know what I mean? We we plug them we make sure we're plugging

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them in every night before they go to bed so they're charged. The first thing

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most people do, I'd say 99% of people do, is they roll over and they

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check-in on their phone first and foremost. If the screen's

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cracked, you're running, get it fixed straight away so it's of optimal health.

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And, like, imagine if that transpired and you treated the people around you like that.

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Like, imagine waking up in the morning, you checked in with your with your

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relationships first and foremost before your phone. Yeah. And I don't know why Shaka

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called me a massive Well, also, like, if there's a new I know I hate

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having, like, symbols or unread things. So anytime I

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need to download new apps, I do that. Or if there's a new software update,

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I do that. Yep. I mean, like, you're keeping everything at premium

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level. Like, that's what you do, don't you? You're definitely not doing that in all

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areas of your life. No. And then it made me wonder about notifications. Like, I

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deliberately turn off all notifications on my phone. Like, I tried and I

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have my phone linked to my watch and those sorts of things just so I

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can try and guess and switch off a little bit from that world around me

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and and not be so connected to the phone so much. But I know there's

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so many people out there that have got, you know, it dings every 2 seconds,

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you know what I mean. You're in meetings and stuff. Your wristwatch, you know what

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I mean? Your your dings quite often and you're connected to that. But,

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yeah, I just thought it was a really powerful notion to to plant the seed

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with everyone out there that yeah. Start having to think about, are you treating your

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relationships with the same energy, enthusiasm, and care

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as you buy your cell phone? Pretty deep, I know. No. It's

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very deep, but I I reckon a lot of people would say they're not. Yeah.

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I I don't think oh, no. I'm not. Yeah. That's not through it's

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just you don't I think you're not aware of it or you need to think

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about So great question. I think it's one people should really ponder. Yeah. I love

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it. And we've got some exciting times coming up. We're doing another road trip. Gonna

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spend some more time together in a little, a little accommodation in Wodonga. We got

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another 5 day road trip coming up in the in the rural areas of Northern

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Victoria, which we can't wait for. Yep. That news is really starting to spread

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that that joy and positivity all around the state, which is awesome. And mate, the

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sun is shining and life is good. It is. And, we wanna thank everyone in

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there for listening to podcast episode 346.

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Yep. Get amongst it, enjoy the sunshine, work on those

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relationships, legends, and, wish Shadi the best of luck. And let's

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hope he does not get gastro again I'm truly grateful. For this upcoming roadshow campaign.

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I'm truly grateful. 3 times in a year. My final thing I would say, Ken

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Bo, is, do something if there's something you've

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wanted to do for a while, do it. So for example, I wanted to

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do that public event for a while, and it scared me and made me anxious.

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I was stressed out my brain about it, but I did it and I loved

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it, and it was an amazing experience. Recently as well, we've

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had an idea for another book. We have. We have. And, you know, I've been

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thinking about it for a while. I'm like, no. You know what? I'm just gonna

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write it, and I'll send it off to our publisher. So just if there's

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something you're thinking about or something you're doing, just do it. Like, because then you

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stop thinking about it because you've done it. Yeah. And and become a nowist.

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Yes. Nowist. I mean, I'll go Marcus a lot, that one. Marcus.

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Now they don't have to be as elaborate as that. Like, they don't have to

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be writing a book or booking a big public event. But whatever it is,

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little things, the more you do them, they can lead to bigger things if they're

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the goals you want. Yeah. But it's, yeah, it's rewarding. Like, you feel good about

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yourself doing that. You do. I actually got asked that in a workshop last week,

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working with some student leaders, and he and the young kid probably at 15, he

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said, can you give me some examples of some life goals? And I was like

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That's a great question. Isn't it? From a 15, 16 year old boy who was

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like, can you please give me some examples of some life goals? And then they

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got me thinking like, hey, we should be teaching that stuff. I'm sure we are.

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Yeah. But Everyone's different. So Everyone's different, man. You can't really teach

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someone what his goals will be different to your goals to my goals. So,

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like, begin I think the only thing you can really do there is explain

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goals that you're having for different areas of your life. Yeah. And that sort of

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went down. I said that's exactly what I said. I said, hey, don't that they

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can't be my goals. It's gotta be what you find purposeful, what you connect with.

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You know what I mean? So have a think about what would give you a

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sense of fulfillment, what would give you a sense of drive and a sense of

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enthusiasm and excitement to go and reach that goal, and then make

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a small hurdle goal out of that, and then just reach for that one first.

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Yeah. And then see where it grows from there. But if you're trying to find

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I said to you, if you're trying to find a life goal, think about what

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what lights you up, what gets you excited first and foremost, and then just

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try and challenge yourself a little bit around that purpose or that that goal.

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Yeah. But I thought that was a pretty interesting question. And that links you with

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what you're saying, but you're spot on. Just take the step forward. Take one step

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towards it. You know what I mean? And see where it leads you. You find

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when you take that first step towards it. Little steps add up to big steps.

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Yeah. One big step isn't as many as a lot of little steps. So little

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steps equal big wins. Yep. And a lot of people think a lot of people

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think, shit, I gotta get from here and people can't see my hands right now.

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They gotta go from here all the way up to here. Well, not really. You

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got a long time to get there. Just go think small scale. Just take one

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step in the right direction. Yep. The direction you're heading in is more important than

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the speed you get there. Oh, Roto turtle.

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I love it. Alright. Enjoy your weekend, everyone. Have a wonderful time. And thank

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you.