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The patterns we see in the rise in fall of civilization.

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Speaker 0 (0s): <inaudible> 

Speaker 1 (13s): Podcast new year, breaking down some big ideas. Do you have a good new year? Did you get the hangout with the family? You didn't catch COVID or did you see the Evolution of civilizations and with the evolution of civilizations Cubs, the disintegration of parts of our Civilization 

Speaker 0 (39s): Peanut first three 

Speaker 1 (44s): But disintegration is the gradual transformation of social instruments into institutions. That is the transformation of social arrangements, functioning to meet real social needs into social institutions, serving their own purposes, regardless of real social needs. Think about social security. Think about health care. These are social instruments that are designed to help real social needs. 

However, the corruption that has crept in has turned these social instruments into social arrangements or social institutions that no longer serve real needs that are only serving their own purpose. They no longer do what their set up to do. Even our government and no longer function is to serve the people. And no longer function is to serve the needs where the real needs of the society. 

Instead it only serving the needs of the people on the top. I think that comes back to absolute power and the corruption of conformity. I think the big question today is whether we have lost a Western view of reality. 

Speaker 0 (2m 11s): Yeah. 

Speaker 1 (2m 12s): Right. Which has given our 2000 years of history, its unique vitality constantly pregnant with new versions of social structure. The truth unfolds in time through a communal process. People must constantly search for the truth by building upon what others have learned, but no knowledge can be assumed to be complete and final. It could be contradicted by new information received tomorrow. 

Speaker 0 (2m 44s): Those weapons of mass destruction. You've got to be somewhere. I did not have sexual relations with that woman read my lips. <inaudible> 

Speaker 1 (3m 2s): The possible termination of open ended. Western civilization is upon us with access to an explosive technology that can tear the planet apart, coupled with the failure of Western civilization to establish any viable system of world government, local political authority will tend to become violent and absolutest as we move into irrational activism, States will seize upon ideologies that justify absolutism the 2000 year separation in Western history of state and society would then in Western people would rejoin those of the rest of the world in merging the two into a single entity, authoritarian and static. 

The age that we are about to enter would be an ideologic one consistent with the views of Hagle and Marx, a homeostatic condition that triumph would end the Western experiment and return as to the experience of the rest of the world. Namely, that history is a sequence of stages in the rise and fall of absolutist ideologies. 

Speaker 2 (4m 19s): I guess the way it is just the way 

Speaker 1 (4m 25s): It's interesting to think about. There was another book I read a while back by Thomas Piketty called capital. And in that book, it goes in depth about capital, be it monetary capital human capital. And it tells us it's, it's a tome in this book, it's over a thousand pages and is really well detailed. And Thomas Piketty goes on to tell us that capital has two States. 

He goes, he tells us that throughout history 

Speaker 0 (5m 4s): People 

Speaker 1 (5m 4s): Are either really, really wealthy or they are really, really poor. Those are the two States. And if you take a look back into history, I would recommend if you, if you question this to read Thomas picket his book, the information in there is a vast, and I think irrefutable, what we have seen in the United States while we have scene in the West is But a blip, a tiny little blip on the radar, the Increased wages and living standard of the Western or American middle class. 

It was a consequence of devastated industry and Europe. 'cause the two world Wars, the Bretton woods system, the strong dollar. It meant that people in the United States in a way, we're the only game in town 

Speaker 0 (6m 8s): I'm looking over here and I see green <inaudible>. 

Speaker 1 (6m 18s): And so that rising tide lifted all the boats that were in the United States. However, as industry caught up in investment was large investments were made in other countries, supply chains were changed. There is no longer this giant tide lifting the boats of the United States. And again were beginning to see the natural state of Capitol, which is all the money settles at the top. 

And the crumbs are left to the people on the bottom, 

Speaker 0 (7m 2s): Right? 

Speaker 1 (7m 3s): There's a world of competition. His it's a law of nature, which is ironic because we're going to get into science. We're going to get into laws in some things like that. The difference is between natural science in social sciences that have been coming up here in just a few minutes. I think it's important to note a good quote. The man has a responsibility to understand and relate actively to a continually unfolding 

Speaker 0 (7m 33s): Reality. 

Speaker 1 (7m 36s): Let's talk about history. The facts of the past are infinite and the possible arrangement of any selection from these facts are equally numerous. Since all the facts cannot be mobilized in any written history because of they're a great number. There must be some principle on which selection from these facts is based. Such a principle is a tool of historical analysis. I think if you have never questioned your history 

Speaker 0 (8m 8s): And then 

Speaker 1 (8m 11s): You've never sat down and done some real critical thinking. Let me just read a little, let me just read that part again because they really want to drive at home. The facts of the past are infinite in the possible arrangement of any selection from these facts are equally numerous. That points to a lot of different histories. Notice that I said history is plural, right? I think it's also important to note that any past event, even this podcast is a fact of history, but most such facts, including this podcast do not deserve to be mentioned in the narration of history. 

That's funny, right? The central factor of American history is the process by which a society with European cultural patterns was modified by the selective process of immigration from Europe and the opportunity to exploit the enormous, largely Virgin resources of the new world. With those few quotes in that short introduction, Think you can begin to establish a pattern. 

And this pattern led me to what I'm going to call COVID culture and social engineering of our current situation. Three steps. There's three steps. I thought to myself, could it be this easy? Could it be this easy to have three steps to social engineer and an entire population? What do you think? Do you think you can do it in three steps? You know what I think about three steps. 

And I was thinking about if this is possible, I started thinking about Leonard Skinner and I know some of you were like, what the fuck are you talking about? George how do we get Leonard Skinner heard and social engineering? You're talking about the history of the United States. You're talking about disintegration of civilizations and you're talking about Evolution of civilizations. And now you're over here screaming Lynard Skynard yeah. Give me three steps. Give me three steps. 

I was cutting the rug at a place called the jug with a girl named Linda Lu when in walked a man with a gun in his hand and he was looking for, you know, who he said, Hey, there fella with the hair, colored yellow. What you try and to prove Cause that's my woman there. And I'm a man who cares. And this might be all for you. You know what I'm saying? I said, wait a minute, Mr. 

I didn't even kiss her. I don't want no trouble with you. And I know you don't own me, but I wish you would. Let me ask one favor from you. Give me three steps. Give me three steps, Mr. Towards the door. Give me three steps. Give me three steps, Mister. And you'll never see me. 

Speaker 0 (11m 34s): And there you have it, 

Speaker 1 (11m 35s): Right? And there you have it. The Evolution the disintegration of civilizations in a verse by Leonard Skinner. Now let me give you those three steps. The fax, the process 

Speaker 0 (11m 59s): And the modification. Those were the three steps, right? 

Speaker 1 (12m 4s): The facts, the facts of the past are infinite. And the possible arrangements of any selection from these facts are equally numerous. There must be some principle on which selection from these facts is based. If you have an infinite, if you have an infinite selection of facts from the past, then you can produce any story. 

You can produce any behavior you can produce any world, or let me rephrase that. You can begin to create any story. You can begin to create any idea in the minds of men. You can begin to create the world in which you want your people to live in. 

Let's take a look at some of the facts about America. The history of America, the central factor of American history is the process by which a society with European cultural patterns was modified by the selective process of immigration from Europe and the opportunity to exploit the enormous, largely Virgin resources of the new world. 

Speaker 0 (13m 32s): Right? 

Speaker 1 (13m 37s): So we've talked about the facts. We've talked about the infinite facts. Step one is creating a story, creating his story history, creating history from an infinite number of facts and an infinite number of possible arrangements of those facts. Step two is the process, the selection process. 

I like to think of the selection process as the double-edged sword of opportunity and exploitation opportunity is something people look Yeah in a inspirational way. Exploitation is something that people will get in a desperate way. And while those words are not exactly synonyms of one another, I think it's important to understand the behavioral mechanisms in which our society moves forward. 

There's two ways people change. One is through inspiration and the other is to desperation. Those were the main drivers that carrot in the stick there very similar to opportunity in exploitation operate as an opportunity, inspiration, exploitation, desperation. Does that make sense throughout, regardless of which infinite fact you choose to begin your history with the drivers will be one of those two things, opportunity or exploitation, whether it was the Spaniards coming to the new world, the opportunity to discover something new or the exploitation of the very people they came to conquer. 

Speaker 0 (15m 43s): <inaudible> 

Speaker 1 (15m 51s): The third step modification of cultural patterns. How do you modify culture? 

Speaker 0 (16m 1s): <inaudible> 

Speaker 1 (16m 5s): Any time something new is introduced to the culture, you can radically modify the behavior patterns. 

Speaker 0 (16m 14s): <inaudible> 

Speaker 1 (16m 19s): I remember when I was a kid, I saw this movie called the gods must be crazy. And it was about this indigenous tribe in the South Pacific somewhere that had never had any contact with the Western world. In one day, this Coke bottle washes up on the shore and somebody finds it in. The guy finds it and he runs back to the tribe to the camp and he shows them this car, the Coke bottle. And everyone's looking at it like, Whoa, look at this thing, this thing's amazing. 

He was just an empty glass Coke bottle. For those of you that are under the age of 14, you may have never seen a glass of Coke bottle before, but they used to come in is, you know, 16 ounce glass bottles. And so the guy and the tribe, one guy, one guy takes it and he uses it like a, like a, he started hitting it with a stick. So it was like tink, tink, tink, tink, and he starts making music with it. And then one of the ladies takes it and she uses it to start rolling some of the corn to make like a, like a flatten kind of a tortilla, kind of a, you know, instead of using a stitch, he was using a bottle and it worked out really well. 

And it got to the point, there was only this one Coke bottle in all the people in the tribe. I wanted to see him, all the people in the tribe found these different uses for it. And it became a problem because everybody wanted to use it. And then there was only one and it caused all of this chaos. And all of this may have been at the end of the guy that takes the Coke bottle when he throws it out, get rid of it because it disrupted the harmony of the tribe. I tell you this story, because if something as insignificant or what we think may be as insignificant as an empty Coke bottle, can change the behaviors of an indigenous tribe that has had similar patterns for thousands of years. 

What do you think the internet is doing 

Speaker 0 (18m 18s): Us? 

Speaker 1 (18m 22s): Any sort of new technology, be it a Coke bottle or Moore's law is going to fundamentally change the beginning. 

Speaker 0 (18m 30s): And sometimes to the point 

Speaker 1 (18m 37s): Of disintegration to a society, The old paradigm can not work with the technology we have today. That's why we are in the situation we're in. There are some interesting points that you could say. In fact, George Carlin said that if the earth saw humankind as a threat, you would probably create some sort of a virus that would attack our immune system. 

You'll stop us from procreating. And is it really like, there's a lot of debate, whether the, the virus is manmade or if it is just something that happened naturally put in a way that's kind of bullshit too, right? 'cause if you think of man as part of nature and man made the virus, then didn't nature make the virus either way. 

There is a novel virus that is killing people, but is that any different than a virus that breaks out among the rabbit population of New Hampshire? Is it any different than an outbreak of tics in Maine 

Speaker 0 (20m 5s): Or a Okay 

Speaker 1 (20m 7s): Sort of sickness that kills off the coyotes in California? It seems to me that nature has a way of containing nature has a way. Evolution has a way 

Speaker 0 (20m 27s): The 

Speaker 1 (20m 27s): Evolution of Civilization is a pattern. 

Speaker 0 (20m 36s): It's something to think about. So 

Speaker 1 (20m 43s): Let me, let me step back and talk a little bit more about these three steps. The fax that we're using today, lets go back two, step one. The fax in the case, in this case, the fax were using to modify step one with the facts we are using to modify or socially engineer society today are not just historical, which we've covered, but there are also scientific, right? 

So you have these two cases, historical facts and scientific facts. It's like a to move checkmate fool's mate, which ironically is an actual thing. You know, you can checkmate somebody and to move, but it can only be done by black kind of interesting. Right? 

Speaker 0 (21m 36s): <inaudible> 

Speaker 1 (21m 39s): So we already know that history is a set of lies, agreed upon a story written by those who won the war. But lets talk about just for a moment about scientific facts, state of science in the American media, it seems to me that natural scientists are quite prepared to accept as a law or a rule that was approximately 

Speaker 0 (22m 9s): True 

Speaker 1 (22m 11s): Or was true. And only like one in a, a a hundred cases while the social scientists are reluctant to accept any rule that was only approximate or even one that had no more than one in a, a a hundred, no, you get into the debate of natural science versus social science. But yet both of them claim to use the scientific method. The social engineering being done in, in my opinion today is obvious. 

When people say things like the science is settled. Anytime you hear somebody say the science is settled, you should walk away from that person. The science has never settled. That's what they call it. Science science at best is a hypothesis, but it's never settled because we do not have all the facts and anybody that tells you the science is settled is someone that is either misinformed or disingenuous 

Speaker 0 (23m 8s): <inaudible> 

Speaker 1 (23m 25s): As scientific methodology is practiced. All three parts are used together at all stages. And therefore no theory. However, rigorously tested is ever final, but remains at all times tentative subject to new observation and continued testing by such observation. Science has one writer put it as like a single light in darkness as it grows brighter. It shows more clearly the area of illumination and simultaneously lengthens the circle of surrounding darkness, 

Speaker 0 (24m 1s): Right? 

Speaker 1 (24m 4s): Isn't that so true of life. The older you get, the more you, the more you learn about a subject, the more it dawns on you, the less, you know, 

Speaker 0 (24m 21s): Right 

Speaker 1 (24m 23s): Scientific assumptions cannot be proved, but they can be refuted and they must always be put in a form that will allow such a reputation. Look at all the censorship on the end 

Speaker 0 (24m 34s): Is that right now it's as if 

Speaker 1 (24m 39s): People that want to socially engineer our culture, you know, taking a backseat, you know, we're still in the first step, they're trying to control the facts. They refuse to allow scientific debate in public forums. How can anybody possibly know what's happening? Unless we have the best of the best debate each other on a public forum. I'm not talking about to people shouting ad hominem attacks. 

I'm talking about two people accomplished in their field, sitting down and talking about what they think is happening when that not be the best bet to solve the crisis in which we find ourselves today, clearly it would have to be 

Speaker 0 (25m 30s): Right 

Speaker 1 (25m 38s): Closely related to the erroneous idea that science is a body of knowledge is the equally erroneous idea that scientific theories are true. One example of this belief is the idea that such theories begin as hypothesis and somehow are approved and become laws. There is no way in which any scientific theory can be proved. And as a result, such theories always remain hypotheses. The fact that such theories work and permit us to manipulate and even transform the physical world is no proof that these theories are true. 

Many theories that were clearly untrue, have a quote, unquote works, and they continue to work for long periods. The belief that the world is a flat surface does not prevent men from moving about on its surface successfully. The acceptance of Aristotelian beliefs about falling bodies did not keep people from dealing with such bodies and doing so with considerable success. Men could have baseball on a flat world under Aristotle's laws and still pitched curves and hit home runs with as much skills they do too. 

Speaker 0 (26m 51s): They 

Speaker 1 (26m 54s): Eventually to be sure erroneous theories will fail to work and their falseness will be revealed, but it may take a very long time for this to happen. Especially if we continue to operate in the limited areas in which the erroneous theories were for me, 

Speaker 0 (27m 12s): I got it. 

Speaker 1 (27m 18s): The scientific theories must be recognized as hypotheses and as subjective human creations, no matter how long they remain unrefuted failure to recognize this, 

Speaker 0 (27m 31s): Yes. 

Speaker 1 (27m 39s): How do we fix the situation in which we find ourselves today in science is no different than the days of Pythagoras and Plato who argued that the human senses are not dependable, but are erroneous and misleading and That accordingly. The truth must be sought without using the senses and observation and by the use of reason and logic alone, 

Speaker 0 (28m 6s): Right? 

Speaker 1 (28m 12s): This is of course, what exactly what scientists have always done seeking to explain the subjective complexity of qualitative differences, such as temperature, color texture, hardness in quantitative terms. 

Speaker 0 (28m 30s): But 

Speaker 1 (28m 31s): In doing this, they introduce a dichotomy between appearance and reality. That become one of the fundamental categories of intellectual controversy. 

Speaker 0 (28m 43s): <inaudible>, 

Speaker 1 (28m 54s): Let's talk about the difference between appearance and reality in the census. All things scientists tell us maybe made up of different proportions of four basic elements, earth, water, air, and fire, but they certainly do not appear to be the same problem arises in our own day. When scientists tell us that the most solid piece of rock or metal is very largely made up of empty space between my Newt electric chair. 

Speaker 0 (29m 27s): Do you see what's going on here? 

Speaker 1 (29m 33s): The Pythagoreans argued that if things are really not what they seem, 

Speaker 0 (29m 39s): Our 

Speaker 1 (29m 40s): Senses are at fault because they reveal to us the appearance, which is not true rather than the reality, which is true. This being. So the senses are undependable and erroneous and should not be used by us to determine the nature of reality. Instead, we should use the same reason and logic that showed us that reality was not like the appearance of things. It is this recourse to rational process, independent of observation that led the ancient rationalists to assume the theory is violating Arkhams razor. 

That became a stablish as a result of Tealium and dominated men's ideas of the universe until almost 2000 years later, they were refuted by Galileo 

Speaker 0 (30m 36s): Who 

Speaker 1 (30m 38s): Actually re-establish observation and outcomes raiser in scientific procedure, 

Speaker 0 (30m 43s): Right? 

Speaker 1 (30m 49s): Let's talk about a different part of the scientific method and equate that to today. 

Speaker 0 (30m 56s): Let's talk about scientific method 

Speaker 1 (31m 1s): And testing the hypothesis. 

Speaker 0 (31m 8s): This can be done in three ways by 

Speaker 1 (31m 11s): Checking back by foretelling new observations and by experimentation with control's of these, the first two are simple enough. We check back by examining all the evidence used and formulating the hypothesis to make sure that the hypothesis can explain each observation, a second kind of test, which is much more convincing is to use a hypothesis to foretell new observations. If a theory of the solar system allows us as Newton's did to predict the exact time and place for a future eclipse of the sun, or if the theory makes it possible for us to calculate the size and position of an unknown planet that is subsequently found through the telescope. 

We may regard, I hypothesis as greatly strengthened 

Speaker 0 (32m 4s): Is 

Speaker 1 (32m 4s): The third type of test of a hypothesis. Experimentation with controls is somewhat more complicated. Let me give you one example here and I'll try to tailor it to what's going on today. If a man had a virus, he believed to be the cause of some disease. He might test it by injecting some of it into the members of a group. Even if each person who had been injected came down with a disease, the experiment would not a scientific one and would prove nothing. 

The person is injected could have been exposed to another common source of infection and the injection might have had nothing to do with the disease. In order to have a scientific experiment, we must not inject every member of the group, but only every other member keeping the uninjured acted, alternate members under identical conditions, house arrest, except for the fact that they have not been injected with the virus, the injected members, we call the experimental group, the uninfected persons we call the control group. 

If all other conditions are the same for both groups and the injected experimental group contract the disease while the control group do not, we have fairly certain evidence that the virus causes the disease notice that the conditions of the control group and the experimental group are the same, except for one factor that has different. The injection is a fact allowing us to attribute any difference and final results to the one factor that is different. 

Does that sound a lot like what the fuck is happening right now? Does it seem to you that this is a one giant social experiment and that part of the population is being the control group. And the other part of the population is the experimental group Oppy, but I think I'll leave it there right now. I just kind of want to dip our toe into The Evolution of Civilization the idea of COVID culture and the social engineering of our Civilization and potentially the disintegration of our Civilization. 

I also wanted to point out that the engineering aspect can be done in three steps, the facts, the process, and the modification. These are the three steps you would take to fundamentally change people's perception of reality, present them with facts and you begin the process of 

Speaker 0 (35m 20s): Certain. 

Speaker 1 (35m 22s): And when you begin the process of behavioral change, and finally the, When you begin the process, the process which we talked about as the dual sort of opportunity in exploitation, and finally the modification of cultural patterns, 

Speaker 0 (35m 49s): The three steps, 

Speaker 1 (35m 54s): That's good. We're going to get in tomorrow to a little man and culture and try and tie it together with the evolution of societies and the disintegration of societies, a law. Thank you. 


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