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Unknown: any way. Welcome to
another segment of breaking down

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barriers with wall neural. We're
excited about a our guest for

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this segment. And while once you
tell our listening audience who

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our guest is today,

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listen, I'm happy to Earl, thank
you. We're happy to be here

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today, we have a very special
guest. One that We're

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tremendously excited about
having. It's Devin Harris from

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UNLV, who is the Associate
Director for early Outreach here

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at UNLV. Thank you for being
here. Devin. Thank you.

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Thank you all neuro for having
me. I'm very excited.

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Oh, that's great. Listen, if you
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see you. We haven't seen your
what in three weeks. That's a

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long time for us. It is but it's
great to see again, tell us

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about the early outreach program
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Of course, so UNLV, early
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building that college going
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individuals early on, primarily
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school students and those early
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help increase their chance to be
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not only academically, but also
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our programming focuses on, you
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well as those college readiness
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their chances of, you know, post
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outreach, there's a quote, from
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here at UNLV, I saw give a shout
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beloved partners as well. And
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outreach, being able to, you
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generational outcomes, you know,
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the world. And that's truly what
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team believes here at UNLV is
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families early on, we can do
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programming, and through
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families to what post secondary
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how that can change the
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Okay, great, Devin. Yeah, share
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What you think what are the most
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share with their, with their
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think one of the most important
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tell our parents is to share
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a lot of times, you know, we
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didn't go to college, you know,
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the answer is always yes. So
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our parents went to college or
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college and or career journey
look like for you? Why did you

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decide to go the route that you
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students to be able to see and
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path to college, the path to
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everyone. There is no road
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that's what makes us all unique
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then you get to share that
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to other students, you know,
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is conversate. have those
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your students should be doing
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and socially. So even as young
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sometimes folks are, are
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a kindergartener about college?
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down to their level, you know,
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great thing is just bringing
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as you get older, you'll have an
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like this, you know, where you
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do some fun, exciting things and
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you just play on different
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various age groups. So, there's
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doing now, but they definitely
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You know, I liked that answer.
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we were, some years ago, we were
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youngsters that the police
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over. And for the life of us, we
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kid that wouldn't go to middle
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remember that. I remember
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time getting the kid and he just
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middle school, and they just
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the kid wouldn't, wouldn't go to
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I do. I do, you know, something
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Earl and I, years ago, when we
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school athletic programs here on
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was at the Cox pavilion. And I
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I saw, and our jaws drop as the
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at school on campus, their eyes
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dollars, they had never seen a
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difference that makes them and
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it, we don't think it happens.
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families who have never been to
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beautiful campus it is. That's
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many? How many schools? And are
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middle schools? How many schools
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Oh, that question, it does kind
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really, it's countless. So Ella,
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focus on primarily elementary
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due to, you know, just Las Vegas
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that we serve, we noticed that,
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students still need some of
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awareness and readiness pieces.
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these high school students as
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that college application
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familiar with some of the
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with, you know, what types of
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we do this across the valley,
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outreach menu of services. So we
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both, you know, for elementary,
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know, I'll brag a little bit and
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track how many students we
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past school year, we served over
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fifth grade students. Wow. And
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2000, for high school over 2500.
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work on being able to service
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about 250, you know, through our
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definitely looking for more
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other organizations. And again,
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it, because it's so important
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students that they can go home
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conversations with their
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with that knowledge as well, and
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that's terrific. Devin. Can you
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the parent piece? The parent
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parent piece is ccsds Family
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called faces. And so they have
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of family learning that offers
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family learning courses. And so
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want to call them faces will
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believe it are not your soft
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popular and requested parent
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and middle. So it just goes to
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those, you know, more college
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at least parents are really
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those soft skills with their
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successful behaviorally, and
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us that are more familiar, you
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not be surprising with, you
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in the pandemic, and sure
needing to bring those back and

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realize how important they are
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one of the things that Earl and
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children that come up for our
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athletics or after school,
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parents haven't gone to college
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it's as important to them as it
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So that's terrific. Devon, what
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plans for early outreach?

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Yeah, so one thing we're really
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next school year on the
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are going to be hosting what
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day camps. So those will be for
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fifth grade, they will be held
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for CCSD. So those days when the
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but the students don't, but most
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their jobs. And so the kids will
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going to spotlight different
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programs partnering with, you
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our fine arts where the students
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activities with, you know,
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students and, you know, really
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programs. Part of our menu of
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better folks who work at UNLV
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connections. Sure. And really
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when I get to college, you know,
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interests and my passions, you
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and opportunities that exist. So
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Wow, that's, that's exciting.
Sounds exciting. How, how do you

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go about recruiting your schools
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you have these programs? I know,
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to some of the schools and, you
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I reached the principal, they
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for a while, and they're very
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there. But how do you how do you
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getting more people involved?

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Right, one of our most probably
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with our CCSD counselors. So at
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year, we work with the counselor
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middle and high school, they
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beginning of the year initial
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share about our programming and
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difference. A looping the
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lot within their schools, and
can help you know, when the

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teachers have so much going on.
The counselors are able to share

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these opportunities and help
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visits out. And then word of
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just teachers talk,
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our Instagram at UNLV. Early
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promote the different events
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community partnerships are
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getting the word out. And
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us, we're actually at a really
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to, you know, really try and
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to use our services. Um, we have
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You do good work. And people
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think that there's and I don't
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answer, but you think that more
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education in certain parts of
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yeah, even funding for programs
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a lot of our community partners
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this work with really the
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we had more staffing, but of
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you can offer? All 200 plus of
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they're in stemmed our menu of
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you know, and even even access
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always more funding, more
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know, a question that in the
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asked you, but I would like to
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school kids, parents, etc. And
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enforcement in general lvmpd,
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Henderson. And they come out and
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the events. How do you? How do
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developing relationships at an
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And I think what I've enjoyed
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more the officers are, you know,
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it's not always the most
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working with students, or what
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conversations are you supposed
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preconceived notions we have,
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both in student and officer, but
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you know, how, as we have more
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types of events, not just
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promoting academics as well. And
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to serve on panels and answer,
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from students. And the hard
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and start building breaking down
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fear, even or Vatta, that just
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power. And we were when we were
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totally shocked that a lot of
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the community college and their
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university, when we told them
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UNLV. And they just lost their
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that. And so how would you, if
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component? Come and partner with
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that be approached? How would
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unexpected favorite part of this
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outreach are building these
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YouTube are a big reason why I
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community partners. Hey, and so
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exactly what we want to do. You
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how there's so many
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there doing such good work, and
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all doing, you know, intersect
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finding where that aligns, and
how we can just enhance right

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and support what each other's
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know, attendance from this or
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like, could we add to that in
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early outreach, we never claimed
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know, anything really? I mean,
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awareness and readiness, no.
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there's, I mean, there's so many
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too, and we'd love to learn
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community partnerships in those
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definitely don't feel like claim
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being able to do that. Because
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students, to our families, to
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introduce them to the community
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community partnerships are huge
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You know, we're all that's a
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saw at that national convention,
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wonderful universities there,
that they just never thought to

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contact the University, and I
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involved way back when I can't
remember, but it was such a

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delight. And the people here and
you and your staff, work so hard

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to make this these programs the
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for us. It's, it's it's really
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experience it. You guys do a lot
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so that's not and firsthand, I
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I'll speak for walk because we
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partnership, you guys took power
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had the partnership, when had
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partnership with you guys.
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the kids to see to university to
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know, I can go here, and then
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to experience and what's so
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the beginning was all the
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there. And I know that out of
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wasn't never a problem, getting
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compete. And then for them to
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University and somehow be
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about their kid going here. So
we'd like to like to thank you

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for that, that partnership. And
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the rest of everybody's just
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so we're really, really happy. I
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How, how did the pandemic
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or if it's still going on how
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had to go because we still had
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that experience? Some different,

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right, definitely changed
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programming is, is always in
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schools. And once you know, the
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to turn everything that we used
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because we so much enjoy being
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you know, in person and just see
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energy, we thrive off of that,
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three professional staff, we
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we'd love being in the
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sense. But when the pandemic
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that but we say the pandemic was
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that we had always wanted to do
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spoke about before. And the
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having those large on campus
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doing the early outreach, campus
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this. So it gave us time,
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research, we want to make sure
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putting out there, you know, is
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us time to do that and create,
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make them engaging and adding
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to keep the attention span of
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we talk about fixed versus
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was amazing how many students we
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weren't just doing things
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had all third, fourth and fifth
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Google meet. So big difference
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out of state now, which was
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of our programming is done here
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person but now that we have
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know, we had a school, I believe
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know, virtually to do majors and
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can be everywhere. No So that's
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the pandemic. Sure. I'm trying
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you know?

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Well, listen, we'd like to thank
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You know, we love working with
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university. And we're very
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future holds? And so we would
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again.

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Yeah, thank you. Well, we'll
make a make a point of that.

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Devin, thank your staff. Because
as busy as we all get in, you

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know, what the events and, and
we're running around doing

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things, we never really have the
right amount of time to thank

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you or your, your staff and all
the people that make this stuff

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happen. And it makes in terms of
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community. We've got to get our
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you gave us a great forum to do
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Big difference. I know, not only
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as well. Earl and I've seen that
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takes us all and I appreciate
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know my team because truly when
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students we serve that was them.
That was my team out there you

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know, doing those outreach
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isn't we seen him in action.
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know

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that and I always want to
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passion they put in

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and the energy because they have
a lot of damage. Yes. Thank you

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again, Devon. Walk are listening
office, our audience. Until next

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time, you're listening to
breaking down barriers with

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Walton neural. Thank you very
much.

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