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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we are, it's Friday, Another day with the Bible

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<v Speaker 2>Guys and Wesley.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, I think a lot of people are returning

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<v Speaker 3>stuff today.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think so yeah, oh no, what am

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<v Speaker 2>I gonna do with all this junk? Right? So now

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<v Speaker 2>we're returning it? Standing in line? Whatever. Well, hey, we

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<v Speaker 2>missed Chris this week. Yeah, he was off this whole week.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll join us. I think he's going to join us

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<v Speaker 2>next week. I'm hoping. So that's fine. We hope you

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<v Speaker 2>had a great time Chris and Liz. I hope you

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<v Speaker 2>can tolerate the podcast without your husband being on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>And well, the one thing is Liz doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 2>worry about what he's going to say my wife. You

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<v Speaker 2>being a public speaker, does your wife fret and worry

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<v Speaker 2>about what might come out of your mouth?

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<v Speaker 4>Only when I get ready to tell stories?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, Like when the stories come, it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>what easy about to say?

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<v Speaker 2>My wife? One? She doesn't have a poker face. You

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<v Speaker 2>always know what you know? Bonnie? Well, right, so Bonnie

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<v Speaker 2>and Wesley work in the same office, and so she

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<v Speaker 2>can't ever hide what's going on. If she's happy, she's delighted.

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<v Speaker 2>If she's nervous, she looks terrified. If she's mad, she

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<v Speaker 2>looks like she's going to burn the building down. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no there's no in between, no in between, and you

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<v Speaker 2>always know what she's like. So she has so much

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<v Speaker 2>anxiety when I speak, because sometimes things just come out

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to say. And so for years she

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<v Speaker 2>sat in the green room and watched on the screen.

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<v Speaker 2>She'd be at church in the building, but she couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be because I would say something and everybody look at her.

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<v Speaker 2>She knew she couldn't hide it, and finally I just

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<v Speaker 2>told her, I said, it doesn't matter. Just just let

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<v Speaker 2>your reaction be your reaction and go out and be

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<v Speaker 2>in the car. But for years she doesn't struggle with this.

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<v Speaker 2>So our wives they suffer because of the things we do.

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<v Speaker 2>So Liz, you got to you got to reprieve this week.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we're trying to say. But maybe next week

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<v Speaker 2>is I'll be back and that'll be well, it's on

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<v Speaker 2>him at.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>So today Wesley Desiree has a very important segment for us. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is a one must go so we had

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<v Speaker 2>to do this or that kind of a thing. So

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<v Speaker 2>which one stays and which one goes away forever? See

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<v Speaker 2>that's and when it goes away forever, I'm gonna say,

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<v Speaker 2>not just goes away forever for you, but for all

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<v Speaker 2>of humanity. Yeah, okay, just so, just for clarifications sake.

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<v Speaker 2>So the first one is which one stays and which

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<v Speaker 2>one goes forever? Eggnog or fruitcake?

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, this is a tough one. I'm gonna have to

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<v Speaker 4>go with fruitcake.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, I can bear the fruitcake. I don't know who

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<v Speaker 1>came up with putting candy things and fruits and bread it.

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<v Speaker 2>Just yeah, just so so, I have never ever had

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<v Speaker 2>a good sip of eggnog in my life. I hate it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I have had, on one or two occasions, pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good fruitcake. Now, I'm pretty sure ninety nine percent of

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<v Speaker 2>all the fruitcakes are the same fruitcake getting passed around

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<v Speaker 2>for the last three decades. It's the same. Nobody actually

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<v Speaker 2>eats it, but I and I was in a priest's home,

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<v Speaker 2>a Coptic priest's home in Egypt, and it was near

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas time, and he said he made a joke about fruitcake,

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<v Speaker 2>but he said, I think it was his wife or

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<v Speaker 2>his daughter had made it. He said, just take a bite,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was delicious. The fruit was slightly candied but

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<v Speaker 2>still had juice, and.

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<v Speaker 4>It fresh made.

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<v Speaker 2>The sweetness of the cake itself was really really good.

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<v Speaker 2>She had like a glazing on the top of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I probably ate five I ate more fruitcake in that

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<v Speaker 2>sitting in your whole life than all of the fruitcake

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<v Speaker 2>before or since. It was really good. So I have

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<v Speaker 2>had a good fruitcake. I've never had.

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<v Speaker 4>A good eggnolge.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna ban personally, gonna ban, and you're banning fruitcake,

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<v Speaker 2>all right. So we're divided on that one. Which one

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<v Speaker 2>the Christmas tree or holiday lights?

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<v Speaker 4>I gotta say the holiday lights. It's a thing to

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<v Speaker 4>get rid of.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go with that one.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of like, you need a Christmas tree for

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<v Speaker 3>the holiday. That's right, That's right, Christmas season.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, So we have a tall ceiling in our

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<v Speaker 2>great room area in our home, and my wife got

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<v Speaker 2>a new Christmas tree this year. It's really tall. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it's tall. It's like twelve feet tall or something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's really beautiful and it has like a gajillion

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<v Speaker 2>lights in it. Oh man, so it's hard.

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<v Speaker 4>So was it pre lit?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, yeah, so those are the ones to get

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<v Speaker 2>there lit fabulous. So it's hard to have like a

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<v Speaker 2>super great Christmas tree without the lights. Yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 2>hate hanging.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you could have all pre lit Christmas lights

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<v Speaker 2>yeah on everything. Yeah, if you can buy a house

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<v Speaker 2>and they had little Christmas lights in it, you couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>see them until you turned them on.

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<v Speaker 3>I do have a neighbor they got these new L

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<v Speaker 3>E D like Christmas lights and they just leave them

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<v Speaker 3>up all year. Oh they and sometimes they'll turn them

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<v Speaker 3>on periodically with different you can do different colors, hues

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<v Speaker 3>and different things.

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<v Speaker 2>So can you see them?

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<v Speaker 3>So you can't really see them until they like turn

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<v Speaker 3>them on. But it just seems weird. It's June and yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's close to July. And I get it, you know, red,

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<v Speaker 3>white and blue, and I get the concept.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, no, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to agree with you on the Christmas lights thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get rid of those. Okay, here's the next one.

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<v Speaker 2>Gingerbread houses are Christmas cookies. I'm not a big gingerbread

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<v Speaker 2>house person. So let's sit with you on that.

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<v Speaker 4>I can go.

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<v Speaker 2>I am with it. Get it out of here.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you need Christmas cookies?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I know the answer to this one. Also

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<v Speaker 2>or home Alone? Yeah, which one do we get rid of?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna say, el oh, no, all right, get out,

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<v Speaker 4>just get out.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to carry the shows by myself. This is

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that kind of negativity in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Wesley just never seen it. So I want in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>I love Home Alone. But okay, candy canes or peppermint.

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<v Speaker 4>Bark Ooh, this is tough.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. I have a strong opinion about this one.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna say, only because it's a classic. I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to say, if I had to get rid of one,

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<v Speaker 3>get rid of the peppermint bark only because candy canes

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<v Speaker 3>are I mean, have you had peppermint bark?

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<v Speaker 4>It's good?

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<v Speaker 3>But can canes are classic good, I mean they are classic.

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<v Speaker 4>I got all right.

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<v Speaker 2>You and I are not on the same page on

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<v Speaker 2>anything except Christmas lights.

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<v Speaker 4>And you said, just like Elf. Two, I love Elf.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you talking about? All right? And gingerbread houses?

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<v Speaker 2>Those are the two? Were all right? Well, speaking of

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<v Speaker 2>being on the same page. Hopefully you're on the same

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<v Speaker 2>page I am. With regard to reading Ecclesiastics, chapter three,

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<v Speaker 2>verse sixteen.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that was a good pivot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it was. So. One of our goals is

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<v Speaker 2>the cheesiest pivots possible on these diffee games into the things.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have been reading the writings of Solomon for

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<v Speaker 2>quite some time. Solomon is the wisest man who ever lived,

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<v Speaker 2>apart from Jesus, and he wrote the Book of Proverbs,

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<v Speaker 2>which has so many practical, everyday living things. He wrote

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<v Speaker 2>the Book of Song of Solomon, which is all about

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<v Speaker 2>romance and romance and relationship and intimacy. And then this

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<v Speaker 2>book is written towards the end of his life where

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<v Speaker 2>he's made some significantly bad choices and he's starting to think,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I wasted my life, and he's trying to find

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<v Speaker 2>the meaning of life. So then he says this in Ecclesiastes,

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<v Speaker 2>chapter three, verse sixteen, says, I also noticed that under

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<v Speaker 2>the sun there's evil in the courtroom. Yes, even in

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<v Speaker 2>the courts of law are corrupt. I said to myself.

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<v Speaker 2>In due season, God will judge everyone, both good and bad,

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<v Speaker 2>for all their deeds. I also thought about the human condition.

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<v Speaker 2>How God proves to people that they're like animals, For

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<v Speaker 2>people and animals share the same fate. Both breathe and

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<v Speaker 2>both must die. Well, that's an encouraging sayment. Well that's

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<v Speaker 2>it for the day, Jeff, we will see.

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<v Speaker 4>You next time.

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<v Speaker 2>Meaningless, he says, how meaningless both go to the same place.

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<v Speaker 2>They came from dust, and they returned to dust. For

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<v Speaker 2>who can prove that the human spirit goes up and

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<v Speaker 2>the spirit of animals goes down into the earth. So

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<v Speaker 2>I say that there is nothing better for people than

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<v Speaker 2>to be happy in their work. That is why we're here.

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<v Speaker 2>No one will bring us back from death to enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>life after we die again. I observed all the oppression

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<v Speaker 2>that takes place under the sun. I saw the tears

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<v Speaker 2>of the oppressed, with no one to comfort them. The

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<v Speaker 2>oppressors have great power and their victims are helpless. So

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<v Speaker 2>I concluded that the dead are better off in the living.

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<v Speaker 2>But most fortunate of all are those who are not

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<v Speaker 2>yet born, for they have not seen all the evil

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<v Speaker 2>that is done under the sun. Then I observed that

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<v Speaker 2>most people are motivated the success because they envy their neighbors.

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<v Speaker 2>But this too is meaningless, Like chasing the wind, fools

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<v Speaker 2>fold their idle hands, leading them to ruin. And yet

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<v Speaker 2>better to have one handful with quietness than two handfuls

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<v Speaker 2>with hard work and chasing the wind. Yeah, this guy

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<v Speaker 2>is miserable.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he is definitely not having a good time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and his conclusions are not with everything else that

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<v Speaker 2>he's written. This is just a really bad day for

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<v Speaker 2>him writing that nothing really matters.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that verse four, I'm skipping down a lot. But

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<v Speaker 3>in chapter four, verse four, when it says, then I

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<v Speaker 3>observe that most people are motivated to success because they

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<v Speaker 3>envy their neighbors, I'm like.

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<v Speaker 4>That is so true.

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<v Speaker 3>How we were motivated to work more, to do more,

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<v Speaker 3>to get more stuff, just to run with the joneses,

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<v Speaker 3>so to speak.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, see, I think that's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>The note in a life application study by will say

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<v Speaker 2>some people are lazy while others are workaholics. Lazy people,

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<v Speaker 2>seeing the futility of dashing about for success, idle away

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<v Speaker 2>their time and hurt both themselves and those who depend

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<v Speaker 2>on them. Workaholics are often driven by envy, greed, and

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<v Speaker 2>the constant desire to stay ahead of everyone else. Both

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<v Speaker 2>extremes are foolish, and irresponsible. The answer is to work hard,

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<v Speaker 2>but with moderation, take time to enjoy the other gifts

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<v Speaker 3>My dad, i mentioned in an earlier episode, used to

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<v Speaker 3>ounce of overtime they made available, this guy worked. He

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<v Speaker 4>I mean he worked and worked.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy's dog barked anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>Like anytime he could get overtime, that guy worked it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>The guy retired within six months.

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<v Speaker 2>He was dead. Wow. And other purpose, The point is

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<v Speaker 3>So you made a lot of money, great, but you

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<v Speaker 4>For all your labor, you don't get to enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you got to live life while your life. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So if you look at your job and your opportunities

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<v Speaker 2>as ways to fund your life. Right, then you kind

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<v Speaker 2>of have a balance there. And there are seasons when

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<v Speaker 2>So you work harder, you put in more time to provide.

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<v Speaker 2>But then you need to also make sure that with

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<v Speaker 2>your breath and you take meaningful time off with your

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<v Speaker 2>family and those kinds of things. And you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>you only save and you never spend, then you never

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<v Speaker 4>You.

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<v Speaker 2>If you only spend and never save, then you're not

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have any preparation for the future, and one

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<v Speaker 2>little catastrophe's going to wipe you out. So there has

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<v Speaker 2>in his life. It was all or nothing all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was over indulgence in every area of his life.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he's frustrated, so he keeps coming back. If

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<v Speaker 2>you notice he's come back multiple times saying so, really,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe the only thing that really benefits is to learn

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<v Speaker 2>to enjoy life a little bit better. It seems to

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<v Speaker 2>Now his writings warned against never pushing and being lazy,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you don't have anything to enjoy, right, So

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<v Speaker 2>there is this balance on that. And so for the

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<v Speaker 2>person sitting at listening today or driving listening today, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're hyper driven to achieve, usually that's driven by

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<v Speaker 2>or just a sense of my worth is in what

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<v Speaker 2>I produce, right, and so that leads towards workoholism, and

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<v Speaker 2>your family will suffer, the people around you will suffer,

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<v Speaker 2>and so will you physically. You need to take a break.

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<v Speaker 2>The other side of it is if you're the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of person who goes, I don't want to work, it's

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<v Speaker 2>too hard, nothing ever works out for me. Everybody else

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<v Speaker 2>has and I don't have, and all this kind of stuff. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>then Solomon say, how about getting up and working harder.

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<v Speaker 2>Go out and find a new job, Go do a thing,

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<v Speaker 2>to get a business started or something, do something, and

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<v Speaker 2>so on both sides of those. And I think humans

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<v Speaker 2>balance seems to be throughout this book. Seems to be

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you made a great point a moment ago

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>For a lot of people, that's the case where the

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<v Speaker 3>title that they have on their job, the position that

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<v Speaker 3>they hold, their identity is tied to those things. The

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<v Speaker 3>problem with that is if you ever lose one of

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<v Speaker 3>those things, the position or the title, now you feel

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So yeah, it's very important that we never tie

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<v Speaker 3>our identity into our work status.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he talks here about how he doesn't feel

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<v Speaker 2>like he's any more significant than an animal. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>we know throughout the rest of scripture, the Bible talks

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<v Speaker 2>about how much more important we are to God, even

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<v Speaker 2>than God cares for and provides for the animals. But

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<v Speaker 2>he loves us. We're made in his image. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is one of the lies that the devil plays with

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<v Speaker 2>us a lot of times is that our life doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>mean anything, and he hates the fact that we're made

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<v Speaker 2>in God's image. Right, No other nothing else ever created,

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<v Speaker 2>is in God's image. God loves us, He made us

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<v Speaker 2>in his image, and so we have intrinsic value just

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<v Speaker 2>because we're made in the image of God. So those

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<v Speaker 2>of us that are Christians, we should walk. We are

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<v Speaker 2>princes and princesses in the Kingdom of God. We are

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<v Speaker 2>literally the sons and daughters of the King of the universe.

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<v Speaker 2>We are made to reflect him. We are made to

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<v Speaker 2>represent him. Of course, we are his servants as well

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<v Speaker 2>as his children. But we have great purpose just by

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that God chooses to allow us to breathe

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<v Speaker 2>breath right, and to eat food and to walk on

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<v Speaker 2>this planet. And so then finding that purpose and leaning

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<v Speaker 2>into that is incredibly important. He's depressed because he's forgotten

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<v Speaker 2>that he doesn't remember and it just feels like he's

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<v Speaker 2>no more significant than an animal, right, And so the

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<v Speaker 2>words he's saying here are not true words. They're just

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<v Speaker 2>the words he's feeling. In the moment it felt true

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<v Speaker 2>to him. And then he moves from there. Everything's useless

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<v Speaker 2>to powerful people abuse weak people, and man, this world

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<v Speaker 2>is screwed up. And these two arguments are often things

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<v Speaker 2>that people who are struggling with ideas of faith want

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about. Is my life doesn't matter. What does

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<v Speaker 2>it matter? Right, We're just going to die? Or the

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<v Speaker 2>other side of it is why do bad things happen? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Those are things and these are the same exact things.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you ever asked those questions struggle those things,

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<v Speaker 2>so did Solomon. There's hope when we get to the

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<v Speaker 2>end of this book, you're going to find out Solomon

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<v Speaker 2>figured it out, right, He hinted at it the other day.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't comment on it. Do you remember that phrase

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<v Speaker 2>where Solomon said, a couple of days ago, God has

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<v Speaker 2>placed eternity in the hearts of man. Yeah, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Solomon starts figuring it out, but by the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the book he finally goes, ah, I got it now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I figured out what really matters. But not yet he

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<v Speaker 3>One of the things that I'll say, Jeff, is that

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<v Speaker 3>this actually resonates with me because it's real.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and this is what a lot of people deal with.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of like if you as you read through this,

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<v Speaker 3>He's on like an emotional rollercoaster.

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<v Speaker 4>He's up and down and up and down.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just love that the Bible as it's giving

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<v Speaker 3>us information, it's not glossing over the good, the bad,

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<v Speaker 3>and the ugly. It's showing us everything. And we go

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<v Speaker 3>through a lot of these same things, and we've said

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of these same things too, So I.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, as you read through the Book of Psalms, there's

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<v Speaker 2>times when Solomon's dad, David, is writing and he's mad

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<v Speaker 2>at God. Yeah, he said, come on, are you serious?

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<v Speaker 2>My enemies are prospering and I'm suffering. I'm the one

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<v Speaker 2>hiding and they're the ones sleeping at home with their children.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's like, I don't even feel like you're paying

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<v Speaker 2>attention to me. You chose me, you said you were

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<v Speaker 2>gonna bless me, and here I am running from my

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<v Speaker 2>life and my enemies are indulging in all the things

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<v Speaker 2>that I should be benefiting from. And he gets mad

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<v Speaker 2>at God. And it's amazing. God doesn't get mad at David.

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<v Speaker 2>God doesn't crush me. Right now, I'm mad at You're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go find somebody else instead. God inspired this according

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<v Speaker 2>to the Holy Spirit, and decided to put it in

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<v Speaker 2>the Bible because God acknowledges that we're humans and that

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<v Speaker 2>our feelings there are. Our feelings are real to us.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not always legitimate. Sometimes we can be thinking or

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<v Speaker 2>God is not offended by them. What God seems to

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<v Speaker 2>do is celebrate the fact that David is coming and

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<v Speaker 2>complaining to God. Right, that means you know when you're

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<v Speaker 2>mad at God? Did you know? That means it proves

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<v Speaker 2>you believe in God. I've had people. I've had people

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<v Speaker 2>go I don't believe in God? Why because I prayed

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<v Speaker 2>and asked God to heal my grandmother and she died. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've been mad at Him ever since. Who are

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<v Speaker 2>you mad at if you don't believe in him? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>You believe in God. The fact that you're mad at

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<v Speaker 2>God means you believe in Him, and so God is

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<v Speaker 2>not angry at you for being angry at him. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're moving towards Him, which is what David did. It's

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<v Speaker 2>even what you find Solomon doing by the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the book. By the end of this Ecclesiastes is Solomon

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<v Speaker 2>is moving towards God. In that so God is not

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<v Speaker 2>offended by your feelings, and it's not like you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to get zapped lightning going to strike you from heaven

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<v Speaker 2>because you have the wrong feelings or the wrong opinion

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<v Speaker 2>in the moment. Instead, you need to keep moving towards God.

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<v Speaker 2>And what I've seen in my life is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>after having talked with thousands and thousands and thousands of

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<v Speaker 2>people about things of faith, when people come to a

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<v Speaker 2>crisis moment, they either run to God or from God. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>those are the only two options. And so I think

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<v Speaker 2>as you read this desperation that you have that you

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<v Speaker 2>find in Solomon, you're not really sure at this point

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<v Speaker 2>in the book where is he going to go? You

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<v Speaker 2>find out he moves towards God's way, but he's struggling

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<v Speaker 2>right now, and under the inspiration of God's Holy Spirit.

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<v Speaker 2>He wanted this book in the Bible to say it's

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<v Speaker 2>not a sin to struggle, you know, so if you

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<v Speaker 2>struggle with mental health issues, or if you struggle with depression,

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<v Speaker 2>or if you struggle, it's not a sin to have

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<v Speaker 2>to be sick. It's not a sin to have struggles.

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<v Speaker 2>The answer is go towards God. In those struggles, and

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<v Speaker 2>the hope and the freedom and the deliverance that you

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<v Speaker 2>Running from him is all of the futility that Solomon

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<v Speaker 2>everything he says, all these other things they're true without God.

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<v Speaker 2>With God, they're not true. So God's the one who

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<v Speaker 2>him during these difficult times.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I'm going to help someone, Jeff, you mentioned

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<v Speaker 3>that idea of I prayed and I don't feel like

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<v Speaker 3>And there's a verse in the New Testament that talks

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<v Speaker 3>his ear is near to those who are in right

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<v Speaker 3>standing with God through Jesus.

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<v Speaker 4>So not based on anything that you've.

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<v Speaker 3>Done, but His ear is near to you through Christ

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus because of what Jesus did dying on the cross

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<v Speaker 3>for us. So we have the confidence then that whenever

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<v Speaker 3>we pray as Christians, God hears us every single time.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, there's still a timing issue. God will still choose

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<v Speaker 3>to perform that thing when he sees fit. But there's

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<v Speaker 3>never a time that a son or daughter cries out

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<v Speaker 3>to their father and the father doesn't here.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, yeah, King David, Salomon's father wrote, God is

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<v Speaker 2>close to the broken hearted. Yeah right. James tells us

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<v Speaker 2>draw near to God, and he'll draw near to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Peter says the same kind of thing, right, when you

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<v Speaker 2>draw close to him. Jeremiah tells us, if you seek me,

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<v Speaker 2>you will find me, says the Lord. Right. So the

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<v Speaker 2>answer in your troubled times, like Solomon is clearly spiraling

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<v Speaker 2>out of control here emotionally, the answer is to move

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<v Speaker 2>towards God, to pursue him, even when you don't feel

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<v Speaker 2>like he's there. Stay with it, keep going forward. Surround

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<v Speaker 2>yourself with other believers who do have strong faith and

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<v Speaker 2>have seen God work in their lives. Remind yourself again,

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<v Speaker 2>this is why I have friends who are really really

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<v Speaker 2>strong on journaling. And I have one friend that every year,

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the year, he sits down with

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<v Speaker 2>his journals, and he always has three or four journals.

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<v Speaker 2>He's filled because he journals every day and he's a

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<v Speaker 2>very disciplined person. But the last week of the year,

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<v Speaker 2>between Christmas and New Year, he goes through and he

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<v Speaker 2>puts an index to his journals so that he can

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<v Speaker 2>go back and when he's talking about answer to prayers,

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<v Speaker 2>when he feels like God doesn't answer prayers anymore, he

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<v Speaker 2>go back several years back and.

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<v Speaker 4>Just look at all that hel God answer this, answer.

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<v Speaker 2>That, And he said it reminds him for him to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to sit down and remind himself specifically of

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<v Speaker 2>times that God answered prayer. Reminds him that even though

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<v Speaker 2>god' and I answer my prayer today, will or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>And he journals about everything in his life. Right, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not disciplined like that, but he does. And so if

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<v Speaker 2>you're a journaler kind of a person, that's good to

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<v Speaker 2>putting those things. Now, go back and reread and see

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<v Speaker 2>where God the good times, yeah, as well as the bad,

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<v Speaker 2>but go back and read the good times. So when

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<v Speaker 2>God did show up and he did answer your prayers,

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<v Speaker 2>and it reminds you God gives us. The Bible says

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<v Speaker 2>that he gave us all of these things in the

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<v Speaker 2>Bible for our example. So when we go and we say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>God took care of David. God took care of Daniel,

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<v Speaker 2>God took care of Joseph, and he got.

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<v Speaker 4>One of his, and I'm one of his.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Shadrag Meshack and at Ago went through the fire

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<v Speaker 2>and Jesus was right there with him, and then not

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<v Speaker 2>a hair on their head was singed. If God can

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<v Speaker 2>do it for them, he'll do it for me too,

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<v Speaker 2>because he wrote this book for my example. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not a journaler, but I am a strong student of

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<v Speaker 2>the Bible, and so if God did it for them,

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<v Speaker 2>he can do it for me too.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeh.

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<v Speaker 3>The Bible says God isn't a respector of persons, so

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<v Speaker 3>if he did it for them.

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<v Speaker 4>He will do it for me too.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. And so Solomon is wallowing right now, and

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<v Speaker 2>we turn what two more pages? Three more pages? Four

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<v Speaker 2>more pages? Yeah, four more pages, and he's gonna go, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I figured it out. It's like nothing matters more than

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<v Speaker 2>walking with God. And so that's what we'll do next week,

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<v Speaker 2>is we'll finish that up and we'll look into it.

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<v Speaker 2>But be encouraged. Run to God even when you're struggling,

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<v Speaker 2>and when you draw near to him, he'll draw near

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<v Speaker 2>to you. Cast all your cares on him because he

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<v Speaker 2>cares for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you for joining us this week. We hope

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<v Speaker 2>you had an amazing week with your family and we

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<v Speaker 2>look forward to coming back and joining with you again

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<v Speaker 2>in the new year. God bless you. We'll see you

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<v Speaker 2>next week.