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So today we're opening up with a
segment called Mailbags. Oh, Mailbags.

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So mail Bags comes from today Marissa
C. And Marissa is writing in And

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word for word is on about that's
scary, isn't that neat? Yeah?

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Because I always say or yeah,
yeah, maybe we edit those out.

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I don't know, but a I
can do lots of really cool things

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lately. Yeah, Oh, that's
very neat. So here's what Marissa's c

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says. First, I want to
tell you that you two have an incredible

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way of bringing the word to life. Thank you, Thank you, Marissa.

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And she said I would like to
know if either of you have any

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secret talents that you could share it
with us. Secret talents talents. Okay,

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okay, all right, well can
you go first? Let me see

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I can wiggle my years? Oh
can you? Yeah? Oh that's cool.

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I could. I think I could
do it? Hang on litit?

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Yeah, yeah, there you go, good job. Yeah. So our

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listeners that was riveting. Yeah yeah. About hundreds and hundreds of listeners listening

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right now, and they're like,
okay, I'm just imagined, just imagine,

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so something that I never I never
ever ever talk about and rightfully so

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and you'll find out why. But
I could speak another language fluently? Can

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you really pig Latin? Pig Latin? Oh? I bet you can't really?

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Yeah? Yeah, ok or stay
after I don't know, I said,

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you want to go to the store
after this? Oh no? Okay?

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So yeah, And so my buddy
and I Dave Davis from home in

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Youngstown, we used to irritate and
and so the reason why I think we

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kept on doing it is because it
made Norman Jeff so mad, because pig

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Latin is just that way anyway,
right, it's just sort of irritating and

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and so. But we would just
talking pig Latin all the time. And

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because we could talk in front of
them, you know, like you when

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you go in, like somebody of
another culture talks about you right in front

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of you. It happens to me
all the time. So that's what we

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did all the time. That's funny. That's the star. I can juggle.

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Oh can you how many at one
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can go far? Yeah's good?
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah. So

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it's two on the outside, one
in the middle is what you got yea.

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Yeah, Well I could do two
really well. I can juggle two

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really fast, yeah yeah, and
really long, you know, a long

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time. Three. Three is the
one that I can just grab any time

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and do. Yeah, if I
practice anything, I can do three for

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like three rounds and then I lose
it. I could walk around the house

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juggling. Wow. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty good. Ye Maybe I'll

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go another one so I can kind
of draw a little bit, you can,

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that's right? No, no,
not a little bit like you're an

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artist. Well, I at some
things. Yes, I think that.

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Growing up, my older brother he
was a he's a commercial artist. And

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then all my brothers had talent and
they would draw. And then then my

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brother Jimmy got into the field as
well with video and artistry. And Jimmy

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and Chuck are both just unbelievable uncanny. For our Heritage listeners, they remember

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two Christmases ago when we did the
Upset on Christmas, we had those water

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dot com go and watch Upside Down
Christmas. All of the art in that

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your brother did. Yeah, my
brother did. Yep. It was all

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hand done right, Yeah, hand
done yep. So so's he's very he's

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very talented. And I think that
just over the years I sort of just

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picked it up and uh, and
so all my kids consequently draw. But

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Tory, my youngest daughter, she
really has a talent. Wow. So's

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she's as good as me. Wow, that's amazing. Yeah. For the

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people who are not Heritage attendees or
have listened to the podcast much, if

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you're new to it. Music is
my background, mostly instrumental stuff. So

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I actually went to college on a
music scholarship and I have a music degree,

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which is kind of weird that I'm
a lead pastor teaching pastor. Yeah,

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and your instrument was all the brass
instruments. I can play all the

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brass instruments, but my main was
trumpet, So I played love trumpet.

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Yeah, And so consequently I've been
trying to Every once in a while I

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ask Jeff to play the trumpet on
the stage. But the thing with the

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trumpet is, though when you got
to build up, it's all muscle.

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It's all muscle. So if you
guys wanted me to do it, I'd

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need like an eight week or ten
week run of pretty serious rehearsal to get

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back to where I could go.
We're doing some brass for Easter, yes,

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And I was just talking with Trey
about that, and I just I

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travel five times, four times between
now and Easter. I just couldn't get

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in shape for it. Yeah,
I'd love to because I could play all

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that music. Well, you could
be in your hotel room somewhere and like,

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you know, just just ripping it
exactly exactly. It'd be fun.

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But yeah, I had an opportunity
all through college and then even for a

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while played in semi pro stuff.
Got a chance to do some work with.

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We played with the Detroit Symphony,
I don't know, eight or nine,

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ten, twelve times something like that
for the fireworks at Greenfield Village and

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played in most of the auditoriums and
theaters and between here and Little Rock,

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Arkansas. So when I was in
elementary school, I took an instrument for

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two years before I quit. Do
you know what that instrument was? Was

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it trumpet? It was trump was
it? Really? It was? So

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we're probably about the same, right
right. The only difference to be tens

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of thousands of hours. Yeah,
no, you're read tens of thousands of

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hours. Yeah, I actually took
trumpet. So the only note I remember

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is the high seat. Through high
school, I would practice an hour,

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hour and a half a day.
In college I was playing two and a

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half hours a day, rehearsing two
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then playing with the band or the
orchestra or whatever. And then as an

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adult, especially when I was playing
with the Motor City Brass I was a

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couple of hours a day to play. But because it's all muscle, that's

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just like it'd be like doing football
rehearsal for football practice for two hours you

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know, you're pretty blown out after
that, so you have to be careful

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with it. But yeah, I
love it, loved it, miss it.

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I just don't have time for it. And I have two and a

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half hours to put into it anymore. Right, So anyways, there you

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go. There's your answer, Marissa, thank you answers. Yeah, and

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so I'm super excited to have Chris
start drawing all this stuff. Yeah.

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Sure. And then what was your
obscure one? What was the goofy one?

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Pig latin? Yes, please please
don't see exactly. Okay, maybe

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the episode of the Office where Andy
wanted to ask Pam out and so Jim

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Jim told him to approach her with
all the things that she hates. Oh

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right, right, and it was
it was pig latin was one of them.

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It was so good. So so
we are continuing. This is one

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of these passages. Jesus had so
many profound things to say, and in

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the in the past, it seemed
like Matthew, Mark and Luke were always

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saying the same stuff. Well,
here, this is a John thing.

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It's only in the book of John
fourteen fifteen, and so here he goes

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and he says in John fourteen verse
fifteen. If you'd love me, obey

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my commandments, and I will ask
the Father, and he will give you

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another advocate who will never leave you. He's the Holy Spirit who leads into

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all truth. The world cannot receive
him because it isn't looking for him,

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doesn't recognize him, but you know
him because he lives with you now and

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later will be in you. No, I will not abandon you as orphans.

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I will come to you soon.
The world will no longer see me,

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but you will see me since since
you also will live. When I

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am raised to life again, you
will know that I am in my Father,

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and you are in me, and
I am in you. Those who

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accept my commandments and obey them are
the ones who love me. And because

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they love me, my Father will
love them, and I will love them

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and will reveal myself to the each
of them. Judas not Judas is Scariot,

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but the other disciple with that name
said to him, Lord, why

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are you going to reveal yourself only
to us and not to the world at

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large? And Jesus replied, all
who love me will do what I say.

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My Father will love them, and
we will come and make our home

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with each of them. Anyone who
doesn't love me will not obey me.

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And remember my words are not my
own. What I'm telling you is from

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the Father who sent me. I'm
telling you these things now while I am

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still with you. But when the
Father sends the Advocate as my representative,

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that is the Holy Spirit, he
will teach you everything and remind you of

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everything I've told you. I'm leaving
you with a gift peace of mind and

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heart. And the peace I give
is a gift the world cannot give.

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So don't be troubled or afraid.
Remember that I told you I am going

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away, but I will come back
to you again. If you really loved

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me, you would be happy that
I'm going to the Father who's greater than

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I am. I have told you
these things before they happen, so that

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when they do happen, you'll believe. I don't have much more time to

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talk to you because the rule of
this world approaches. He has no power

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over me, but I will do
what the Father requires of me so that

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the world will know that I love
the Father. Come, let's get going.

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There you go, Come, let's
get going. Let's be going.

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I guess is what it says.
But yeah, let's be going. You

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know. So I said in yesterday's
podcast that I was going to comment on

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the phrase do not let your hearts
be troubled and do not be afraid,

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right, which you just get done
reading. And there's by the way,

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there's a lot to talk about here
because he says so much, but let

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me just tackle it, right because
it's on my mind. So at the

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beginning of John fourteen, he says
the same thing, do not let your

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hearts be troubled, do not be
afraid, you know, believe in me.

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If it were not so, you
know, I would not have told

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you. I go to prepare a
place for you in my father's house.

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There's many rooms all that stuff,
right, Yeah, okay, So I

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oftentimes quote this at funerals. So
when somebody is at a funeral, they

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are very saddened because, you know, the heaviness of somebody who was alive

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is now no longer alive, and
obviously they're just said to have them go,

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and it's hard to picture heaven.
It's hard to picture them, you

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know, in a place where it's
real. And I and so what I

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do is I actually quote Jesus,
because Jesus in John fourteen was getting ready

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to leave the earth, and he
was getting ready to die. And so

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I use this at funerals because Jesus
is trying to paint a picture about the

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reality of heaven, and oftentimes when
he talks about it, he couples it

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with this phrase that says, don't
be afraid, do not let your hearts

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be troubled, do not be afraid. So at the very beginning of the

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chapter, he talks about mansions in
heaven and he says, don't be afraid,

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you know. And when he's talking
about death and preparing to die,

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he says, I'm going away.
Don't be afraid, right, because the

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reality of heaven is real, right, Okay. So, and the thing

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that I usually do is I tell
people. The thing I capitalize on is

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that he tells them in verse twenty
seven, I'm leaving a gift with you,

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peace of mind and heart. And
the gift I give to you the

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world cannot give. So once again, don't let your hearts be troubled,

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and do not be afraid. And
so this idea that God says, Hey,

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if you want to talk about death, you want to talk about heaven,

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you know, which he does this
whole chapter. I'm giving you something

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the world cannot give, right,
I'm giving you peace of heart and peace

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of mind. And this is a
world This is a gift that the world

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cannot give. And I liken that
to the fact that the world doesn't have

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an answer to death. If you
don't believe in God, you're an atheist,

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and you believe it all ends.
There is no hope, there is

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no peace, there's nothing. Right, Jesus says, I'm giving you something

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that the world cannot offer, which
is gift of heart and mind, and

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it's peace. And I think that
only in God can we find this peace

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when it comes to death, when
it comes to thinking about our loved ones

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in heaven that Jesus is describing right
here, that's where the peace comes from.

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That's where the joy of knowing that
this is not a final goodbye,

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but rather until we meet again.
Right. So, you can try to

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find peace elsewhere, but you're not
going to find peace the way that God

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gives it. So it's interesting he
talks about you know, it'll be you'll

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have greater power, you'll do greater
things than me. That's always we know

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He's already attached that to the power
of the Holy Spirit in us. He's

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going to talk about that in Acts
chapter one when he says, you know,

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the Holy Spirit will come on you
and you have power. Right.

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But here he also says that that
peace comes because of the Holy Spirit,

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right, Yeah, the advocate,
and he'll teach you everything and remind you

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everything I've told you. And so
it's always sad to me. I just

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was in a conversation the other day
with a godly woman and her and her

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husband. They're up in age till
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lady. They are coming to a
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Yep. And I kept trying to
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what the answer was. I kept
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you don't think the rapture is going
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don't want to die. I just
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thought, oh, so should we
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should we know what prophecy says about
the end? Yes, But the motive

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for them was we don't want to
die. We're afraid of dying. That

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it was their terror of death that
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just felt like and so I said, hey, listen, Jesus said,

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you don't have to be afraid of
backwards, isn't it. Jesus said,

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I am giving you the Holy Spirit
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And when you're truly in the spirit, that doesn't mean that there's nothing

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bad happening. Man. When I
read prophetic things, boy, it's going

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to get rough. But I can
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of those difficult things. And so
it was really great as we were reading

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this. The note for verse twenty
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end result of the Holy Spirit's work
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Unlike worldly peace, which is usually
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this is confident assurance in any circumstance. With Christ's peace, we have no

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need to fear the present or the
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and numerous other forces are at war
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moves into our hearts and lives to
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place of conflict. Jesus says he
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to accept it from him. If
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the Holy Spirit to fill you with
Christ's peace. Right. And so that

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is one of those things I think
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and pray, God, send your
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Peace that passes all understanding. The
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most difficult times, in the scariest
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a minute. Don't just go running
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off. Instead, ho back and
ask for the Holy Spirit to give you

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God's peace in a way that you
can't even understand or fathom. And it's

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not an absence of conflict, not
an absence of the problem. It's supernatural

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peace from God that He's going to
carry you through it. And you know

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we've talked about that. How can
you be threatened with heaven if the worst

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possible thing could happen, How can
you be threatened with heaven? Right?

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And so all the other things are
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does that mean you don't believe you
have a good father. He was

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willing to do everything else he could
think of doing for you, everything else

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necessary to pay the price for your
sin, but he's going to let you

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live in a tortuous moment without giving
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is that that doesn't make any sense, right, So sometimes I think the

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devil, even to our last minute, often will try to get us to

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doubt how good God is and we
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us to help us have peace even
in the biggest storms. It's literally Jesus

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getting in the boat, is Jesus
walking on the water. Peace be still

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kind of thing. Jesus is sleeping
in the back of the boat because he's

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not afraid of the storm. Why
because he has sure confidence that when God

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said go to the other side of
the of the lake, He's going to

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the other side of the lake.
Period. That's it, right, And

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if we can just understand that,
that's the offer God gives is I'm in

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control. I will take care of
you no matter what you face. I

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will give you the power and the
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And the other side is just that
great. Yeah. Right, that's

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so funny that you're saying that,
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Yeah, did you know that?
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that going to the other side of
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side. Yeah, so that's it
really great. Well, hey, can

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we jump with what we don't want
to miss is the beginning, because Jesus

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says a whole bunch about obeying him, yes, and obedience. Now,

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doing what God says to do is
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But doing what God says to do
is the only way that Jesus tells us

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we can tell him we love him. There is no other way. If

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you love me, obey my commandments. And he says it over and over

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again through here. Right, yeah, love me, And he says the

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people who don't obey me don't love
me. So I know a lot of

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Christians who know what the right thing
is to do, but then choose not

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to do it, and then on
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boy, I love Jesus though,
right, And Jesus is like, boy,

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doesn't feel like you love me.
You knew what was right and you

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choose not to do it. And
so we have grace. Grace means I

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don't go to hell for doing the
wrong things, right, Jesus grace,

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God's grace is extended to me.
He forgives me because I placed my faith

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and trust in me, pays the
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people abuse grace. Paul says,
what should we sin so that grace will

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abound even more? The more we
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Wow, this is great. Let's
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people just go, well, God
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God knows my situation. I just
had opportunity with a friend of mine

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recently who was living in a situation
that wasn't the right situation. And my

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friend is a Christian and was saying, man, I have my reason.

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And as you sit and listen to
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legit, this is a really difficult
situation this person found themselves in. So

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they wind up choosing a living situation
that wasn't entirely honoring God. So when

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we got the talking about it,
I was saying, what would it take

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for you to honor the Lord?
And do you believe that God will bless

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you? Yes, Okay, let's
do that. And this person had the

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guts to step out and say,
okay, I'm going to follow God in

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this and things are working out pretty
great. It's going fine now. But

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it was fear that often leads us
into if I don't do this, I

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might lose that boyfriend. If I
don't do this, I might lose this

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job. If I don't do this
thing I know is wrong, I might

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lose this friend or this opportunity.
And so we do things, and we

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justified doing the wrong thing because and
then we still say, well, I

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love God, but I've got to
do this. I'm going to lose this

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person. And jesusaid, listen,
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And then, you know, so
many other times he says, seek first

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my kingdom and my righteousness, and
I'll add all these other things to you,

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you know, Matthew, Chapter six. So we just have to trust

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that when we obey him. It's
the only way Jesus told us is the

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way that we can tell him we
love him is when we choose to do

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what he told us to do.
And so, man, I just want

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to celebrate when people decide to do
the right thing, even though it feels

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hard. Just know Jesus feels so
loved by you in that moment. Yeah,

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yeah, Well, obedience is the
very definition of faith. Right,

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So, you know, faith when
we don't understand it, Faith when we're

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afraid to do things. Yeah,
faith when we you know, doubt that

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God can come through you know.
Obedience meaning it's not just sometimes black and

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white, it's obedience when when we
don't even understand it. Yeah, you

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know. So obedience is a funny
thing because sometimes when we hear from God,

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it's really plain, thou shot and
thou shot not. It's like it's

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like that is that is pretty plain. But then there's sometimes where we're like,

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huh, there's not a black and
white thing that points to this exact

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scenario. But then we have to
go off of God and God's nature,

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God's character, sometimes God's principles,
right, and we're in what he's placed

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in your conscience. He's placed in
your conscience. Roman's fourteen says, don't

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send against your conscience thirteen, right, and so and so God's never gonna

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put in his will something that's contrary
to other parts of his work, right,

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And and then and then there's sometimes
where where we'll hear something very specific

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that God wants us to do,
like quit your job, you know,

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or or do this or you know, or maybe it's something simple, like

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simple like give this money to this
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and or you know, or start
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uh and whatever it is. And
when we hear this whisper and then we

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don't necessarily understand, you're like,
but but God. And that's the scenario

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you're talking about, which is like, but God, if I do that,

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this is going to happen, right, and and so we either don't

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understand, or maybe perhaps we do
understand, but we're fearful, or maybe

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we just do understand. We're fearful, but that we also think there's no

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possible way this is going to work
to my benefit. God's not going to

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come through because the odds I've calculated
the odds, and there's only a small

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probability of this taking place. Yeah, and so and so obedience sometimes is

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all of those things, right,
and it's and it's so Yeah, it's

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hard to walk by this, say
this is all in the same group of

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sentences talking about peace too, Right, So I tell Jesus I love him

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by choosing to obey him. But
I recognize circumstances can wind up getting really

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difficult because I choose to obey him, and God says, I'll give you

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your my holy spirit and you'll have
my peace right, so we can have

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we can have confidence and peace when
we choose to do what God says to

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do, even in the most difficult
situations. That's great. Well, that

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is our time and we will see
you next time on the Bible. Guys,