Are We There Yet?

How can the principles of tending a sustainable garden transform the way we lead in business? In this episode, Sonja and Jamie talk with Caroline and Vincent Jeanteur, co-founders of executive coaching firm Emergentiel, about weaving permaculture principles into business strategy. Rooted in ethical land stewardship, permaculture offers a powerful framework for reimagining how organizations use resources, engage teams, and measure success, much as you would when growing food for harvest. Caroline and Vincent share how trust, vulnerability, and open dialogue can spark innovation, and how “edge thinking”—seeking ideas from unexpected places and valuing out-of-the-box directions—fuels creative breakthroughs. The conversation also explores nature as a coaching tool, helping leaders gain new perspectives and strengthen team dynamics through shared observation. From decentralization to multi-local strategies, we invite our audience to rethink leadership, cultivate resilience, and embrace a more human-centered approach to corporate leadership by looking to the land as teacher.

What is Are We There Yet??

Are We There Yet? is about recognizing, defining, and building pathways toward a more sustainable working future. How can we collaborate with others in a way that brings authenticity and durability to our projects and relationships? What tools can we leverage to communicate productively towards a shared goal? What can leaders do to shape where we’re going, and how to get there? Hosts Sonja Ernst and Jamie Hardy are two humans on a quest to understand just where we’re headed, in monthly conversations with pioneers, professors, artists, and experts in the fields of science, technology, placemaking, coalition building, AI, and so much more. Whether you're a business leader, a technology enthusiast, or simply curious about the future of how we do things, this podcast is for you.