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Hello everyone and welcome back to Bikinis
After Babies.

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Thank you so much for joining us today.

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I of course am one of your hosts, Mandy
Rashaun, here with your other fabulous

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host.

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Hey everybody, this is Jillian Hughes
joining you with the tail end of a sad

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prep girly cold.

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We actually pushed off recording this
episode a couple of days, like so I could

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get my voice back, but I still sound
terrible.

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But we're here and we're excited to bring
you another episode.

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Thank you all so much for tuning in.

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Thank you for all of your comments as
well.

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We just love to hear feedback from all of
our audience members.

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And that's what we're going to do today is
do some.

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Q &A and kind of talk about some topics
that our audience has asked us about.

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Prep brain.

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Struggling to get words out of my mouth.

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my God.

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So bad.

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I knew this was going to happen.

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I remember when we decided to do this in
November.

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and we were talking about the timeline of
our shows.

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I'm like, there's gonna come a point where
we cannot function and it's gonna be a

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mess.

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And I don't know if we're there.

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You seem good today.

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You seem good today.

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I'm not.

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I feel like, so originally, if you guys
are new to this podcast, originally we

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usually record our episodes on Monday or
Tuesday.

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That was not happening this week.

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That was not.

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With you being sick and me being really,
really just worn out, yeah.

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Yeah, Jillian and I both.

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roughest part.

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a half weeks out from our show and we're
both doing different shows and we're doing

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different shows at different parts of the
country so that's kind of neat but you

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know it is it's just the nitty -gritty of
it you know higher cardio lower calories

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you know just really at the tail end push
and it's like things happen like you get

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sick your voice was shot the other day
when you sent me a message there was just

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no there was no way but I will say at
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we both had a good, a really good Mother's
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Like, we did.

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I, so, my Mother's Day, so I'll tell you
about my Mother's Day, it seriously was

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probably, I will never be able to recreate
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It was so amazing.

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So my son always plays in a soccer
tournament on Mother's Day.

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It's called the Mother's Day Soccer
Tournament for one of the leagues here.

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It is called the Mother, where is it at?

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classic.

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here, I'm actually, if you guys are
watching on YouTube, I'll have to show you

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guys.

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If you guys are watching, so, okay, but
this, this is the, yeah, if you guys are

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watching on YouTube, this is the trophy my
son got and gave it to me, because he was

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the star player of the tournament.

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So they all got medals on.

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Yeah.

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So I went to a play.

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We had Mother's Day time together.

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It was super great.

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Like the boys got me cute gifts, but we
had to fit in all the soccer games.

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So we were still running around like crazy
all weekend and we, you know, won all our

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games.

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So we were in the championship game and
Carson just played so well.

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Like it was, it was amazing how well he
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Like the parents, the kids are like, he
deserves this, take this.

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So like, and then,

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it to me and I was like happy Mother's
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So how was your Mother's Day?

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Well, Saturday night, we went to a banquet
for the end of season for cheerleading.

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So I drank water and pretended to have
fun.

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I mean, it's fine.

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I will tell you, like, my, the moms that I
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awesome.

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Like, they, they were just genuinely
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And like, nobody was like, why aren't you
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try this, this is healthy.

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Like nobody was giving me any crap at all,
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and like, you know, be in there, whatever.

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And it ran late and I was really tired,
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Saturday and then Sunday.

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we actually didn't have any kids on
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So, my kids were with their dad and
Brian's kids were with their mom.

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So we went and got massages together.

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That was great, except I'm skinny.

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And his lady was like,

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just digging in my lower back.

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She's like, it's so tight.

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I'm like, no, that's bones.

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It's not tight.

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Ouch.

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Like I think she was like massaging my
kidney.

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And I had a couple of bruises from it, but
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until after my season is done.

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Like that's kind of the cutoff for body
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mark, because if you do end up with any
bruises, like the tan is not really going

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to cover it.

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So it felt really good.

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That was like really nice.

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And then I didn't have to cook.

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So.

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Mm -hmm.

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felt really good.

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Well, which is surprising.

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When I was laying there, I'm like, my
throat kind of hurts.

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Like, that's really weird.

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And then I wake up the next day, super,
super sick.

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So I must have, it must have been like
kind of coming on.

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And I think like Saturday when I was doing
cardio and my throat was hurting, I'm

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like, it must just be allergies.

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And then lo and behold, here we are with
this like barking cough and I, I'm so

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nasally and my voice is all raspy.

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I'm like, it's just great.

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Perfect timing.

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But.

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Like the silver lining is that it isn't,
you know, the week before the show,

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because I actually talked to a girl who's
from our area that's competing this

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weekend and she has it right now and it's
her peak week.

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I know she I think she listens to the
show, too.

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I know.

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And I'm like, girl.

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But she said her coach has her doing kind
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anyways.

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So she's just trying to like get better.

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And it just sucks because you just feel
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digestion doesn't feel great.

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Like when I'm sick.

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Yeah, I can't imagine being sick during
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I've been sick obviously during preps, but
like never that close.

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Never even three, four weeks close.

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So, but you're getting better.

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You're already feeling better.

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yeah, I do.

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I'm starting to feel better today.

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I just, it's hard to sleep, you know, it's
hard to sleep anyways.

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Like sleep quality for a lot of people is
not great in prep towards the end.

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You know, it's just, it's part of it.

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Like everything changes as your body gets
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all those things change.

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You know, I normally get a good solid like
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two hours last night.

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So I still like I'm probably a day or so
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checked in this morning.

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Like it hasn't slowed me down.

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I think probably what wore me down.

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Have we done a podcast since I came back
from Florida?

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I don't know, but I was in Florida for
cheerleading.

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And then the weekend before that was our
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Louis.

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And that was like a 20 hour day for both
of us.

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We were pretty beat down after that one.

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Yeah.

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just, you know, our bodies, like life
doesn't slow down.

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like we're juggling businesses and kids
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an awesome post today about that, like how
it's important to like keep life going

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when you're in prep, because, you know,
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just, it's like, May is crazy with end of
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end of one season into the new season.

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And I have two kids.

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graduating like one's graduating middle
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elementary school and then summer and it's
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it's like it's just so much right now but
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much.

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I like, I know it's always busy this time
of year, but like that is, you can't stop,

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you know?

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Like the world doesn't stop going just
because you're in a prep.

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It like, I will say like yesterday, I had
to super mom mode it.

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It was crazy.

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Like I had, I, from like 5 a on, like it
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workout, business, clients.

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I had to go meet a posing client.

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I had a supplement company I was talking
with.

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if I had all of this stuff get back home
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soccer tryouts, I have high school soccer
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and this and this and going through all
our business stuff, it doesn't ever stop.

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But the whole time I'm doing all that, my
little lunchbox is with me with all my

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food in it, right?

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say, that's like my favorite thing is
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training time.

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And when I stretch, when I do vacuums and
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don't give any energy to my food, which is
like really nice.

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Cause then I can use my brain for other
stuff.

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And you know, I just take it with and
things are prepped and it really does make

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things a lot easier.

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So, but, but yeah, we're coasting along.

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I think.

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We're gonna make it.

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My suit came in this week.

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It's really pretty.

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It actually came on Mother's Day.

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It's so pretty.

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It came on Mother's Day with my new hair
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which is really pretty.

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And there was one other thing, my makeup
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makeup for this first show.

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And which we can talk about why I'm doing
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I don't know if we want to talk about
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should you have someone do your makeup for
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I always say yes to have someone do your
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And I found out the format of this show is
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go at 9 a and then all of the women go at
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three.

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So this happened to me once before I was
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a makeup artist and she was at a hotel
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city.

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And my makeup time was like 2 p And I'm
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Like, that's way too close to that time of
being backstage.

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And I don't want to be like stuck in an
Uber.

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And I don't like I don't I honestly don't
want to get in an Uber to go get my makeup

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done.

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It's just too far.

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So I do know for sure that the makeup
artist I always use, who's V, will be at

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the Host Hotel for Universe.

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So I will absolutely book with her.

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But I've done show makeup.

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job.

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Yes, and I love, I love, love having my
makeup done.

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It's just, it's wonderful.

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But I think just for this first one and
you know, and I do makeup for people for

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shows.

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So I just, yes, I bought an unnecessary
palette that I probably don't need, but

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it's, you know.

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also think that's something to touch on
too.

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It's not just like, okay, if you choose to
do your own makeup compared to if I choose

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to do my own makeup.

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I do not do makeup for a living.

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I have never done that thick of makeup.

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I have no makeup experience.

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I've never done makeup on another person.

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I'm not about to decide, well, I'm gonna
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couple bucks.

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For one, you're not even gonna save any
money because you have to buy all the

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makeup.

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You have to take all of that energy that
you barely have anyways and

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put it into doing your makeup, you are
already pretty nervous and pretty like

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nervous, excited, all that stuff, right?

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You already have all of that stuff going
on.

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Why are you gonna put that added, like if
I did it, like why would I put that added

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stress on me, right?

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I tried to do my own hair one time, like a
long, long time ago, and all I did was

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like straighten it, and I still didn't
like it, like because I was just like my

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nerves.

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But like that's why I will have, I
actually just decided today I'm gonna have

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the promoters.

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makeup person do my makeup that's going to
be at the show.

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They're going to be backstage doing the
makeup.

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So I want to have a look.

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recommend getting your makeup done.

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I mean, unless you have a lot of product
and you're really good at doing makeup,

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but it's such a different look.

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It's a lot darker.

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And I have seen at some shows where it's
just, it doesn't under the lights, it

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doesn't pop enough or, you know, the
lashes are too heavy and they're casting

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like a little bit of a shadow on the face
or there's too much contour or the faces.

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lighter than the body.

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So, I mean, it does take like having some
knowledge about makeup.

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And I've I had always done my own until I
think it was like 2021 was the first time

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I ever had anyone do my makeup for a show.

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And I was like, like, this is the tits.

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Like, this is really nice.

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But then I did have the unfortunate
experience of being almost late to pump up

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just because the makeup artist was running
late and it just gave me.

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way more anxiety than that.

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And that won't happen with V because she's
the bomb.

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Like she is so fast.

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Like it's and she's amazing.

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Like like her pictures, like they're her
whole team.

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And I just I love, love, love her.

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So wherever she's going to be at a show,
like I absolutely will use her.

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But but yeah, I would recommend by the
time you buy everything like I've seen on

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YouTube, like amazing tutorials.

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But by the time you buy the foundation and
the.

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concealer and the lipstick and everything
you're probably gonna spend like over $150

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anyways, so just get it done, you know?

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just choked on water, sorry guys.

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The struggle, that's gonna be the title of
this episode.

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The shit show struggle.

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my God.

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the struggles of being three and a half
weeks out from a show.

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But what I was gonna say is...

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This is a good segue into what we are
gonna talk about today, and that is some

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common questions that we've seen come
across are our feeds the past month, like

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month, two months.

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And we're just gonna kind of talk about a
few of these today.

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And one of them that we can definitely
touch on is as you're getting closer to

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your show, dealing with the hunger
cravings and having to really suffer

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through those feelings and how to kind of
go about it.

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Jillian, do you have any tips on this one?

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Well, I mean, you might not like what I
have to say.

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ha ha!

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I think that if it's your first
experience, you might be surprised that

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you're hungry.

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And you know what's crazy is that you can
be hungry on more food than you were

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eating in your off season.

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But your metabolism gets going.

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You have more muscle.

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Your body composition's changed.

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You're burning through food because you're
more active.

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And you're like, you know.

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But there's changes going on in your body.

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Like your leptin and ghrelin levels are
changing as you're dieting and as you're

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getting leaner.

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So, you know, you can be like, I'm
starving.

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But then when you like look at it, it's
like, no, you're not like you're getting

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160 grams of protein, you're eating, you
know, 40, 50 grams of fat, 120, 140 grams

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of carbs, like you're not starving, right?

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But I think mentally for some people that
can be really challenging because there's

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just a lack of variety and you know, that
that's really challenging.

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So.

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My first tip is just sort of like to
expect it because I remember like when

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flexible dieting came around and it was
like, it was on the tail end of like this

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phase that we went through in the industry
where people were starting to learn about

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metabolic fatigue.

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And that was a really popular, widely
improperly used term, intuitive eating and

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like basically like knocking all of, all
of.

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bodybuilding and bodybuilding science and
kind of saying, you know, don't do it this

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way.

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Otherwise you'll end up with a bad
metabolism and you know, you'll have.

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Right, right.

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And so then it was almost like there was
this like, like nuance that you could prep

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for a show and not suffer.

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And then if you were suffering, you were
like, I must be the fattest client on

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earth.

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If my coach is, you know, I'm doing all
this cardio and I have to suffer.

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Like I'm clearly I suck at this, like this
person over here.

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is not doing any cardio and gets to eat
all this food, whatever.

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End of the day, everybody's different, but
just to expect that it's gonna be hard.

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And it's not that you can't do it, it's
temporary, right?

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But there are helpful things that you can
do.

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I think for me, one thing that I did
differently this year that I did in prior

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preps is instead of doing these like
little mini meals, like six small meals, I

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don't do it that way anymore.

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I do like...

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four, just four eating times, which I
found has like actually really been great

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for my digestion because I do really
digest all my food and get my tummy like

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really hungry before it's time to eat
again.

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But then I get to eat more at one sitting
instead of having like, you know, little

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bits of chicken throughout the day.

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It's like I get to have bigger meals and
it's more satisfying.

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So that is a hack, like because it's the
same food, it's just done differently.

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So I think that that's a tip that, you
know, you can work with your coach on.

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to see if that's something you could do.

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And then I love my La Croix, like that's
my other thing, because I try not to do

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like too many diet sodas or like sugar
-free drinks, but like La Croix is like,

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doesn't have any sweetener or really any
taste to it at all.

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Like, but it just.

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those things.

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I was like, La Crocs, La Croc.

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I don't know.

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I see them at the store.

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I'm not a, I don't like the sparkling
water, but I see them at the store and a

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lot of people drink them.

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And I'm like, La Croc?

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What?

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But I have no idea.

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I don't know.

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that and I don't know that I have any
other ones.

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I'm just I don't know.

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you know, I think for me, for me
personally, with my lifestyle and how I am

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there, I have a few.

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So I like to eat at the same times.

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almost every day.

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Now I know not everybody has that luxury.

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Everybody like if you work a nine to five
like Monday through Friday, you might, you

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might be able to be like, I'm going to eat
at these times.

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And then I stick to those pretty close and
it regulates my body really well because

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if my body knows what's going to eat, it
knows what's going to sleep.

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It knows what's going to wake.

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Like I get on a very good schedule.

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And even with how busy I am, I've done
that for so long that like I can almost

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tell time by like my hunger.

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So it's,

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helps me quite a bit.

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So I still like like for me.

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I like the six meals.

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I've just always done it It's always
worked for me, but I will say if as my

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calories dip down I will actually even
split those meals I'll even like if I have

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a meal that's like bigger than the other
meals I'll be like, I might do seven meals

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just to make like a small snack, but
that's that's just me No because one of

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them

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I would be, that's a tease.

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I don't like it.

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So one of my meals is kind of big.

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It's like a whole, it's a whole cup, like
almost a whole cup of egg whites, veggies,

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fruit and egg and an egg.

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So like I hard boil egg and I have fruit
and then I'll have that.

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And then later on I'll have like the other
part of it.

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And then the rest of my meals are like the
normal like chicken, like protein, veggies

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stuff.

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But I keep it like pretty simple.

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Like I have my protein and veggies and I
usually always have chicken and carrots or

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chicken and asparagus.

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I like to keep it really simple.

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but another thing is kind of like you with
like I don't I won't do the diet sugar

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-free stuff it will just hurt my gut but I
love decaf iced tea because like for one

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it counts as water like because it's decaf
so I'll put my stevia drops in there and

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this little this little this big cup if
you're watching on YouTube it's a giant or

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if you're not watching on YouTube it's a
giant Stanley Cup I will drink so much

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iced tea with stevia and their decaf

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iced tea with stevia.

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00:20:02,948 --> 00:20:08,048
But that and then sugar -free gum, not in
excess, but like if I'm hungry and I'm

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waiting for my next meal, like I'll have
sugar -free gum.

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Another thing I find with new athletes,
this is very helpful.

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It kind of goes back to what you were
saying about.

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expecting to be hungry, but like I feel
like as women sometimes we start

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overthinking the process.

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We start thinking like, I'm really hungry,
but am I really hungry?

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Did I eat enough food?

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Should I eat more food?

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00:20:30,232 --> 00:20:31,002
Is my coach right?

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00:20:31,002 --> 00:20:31,762
Is my coach wrong?

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They you start going down this like
downward spiral because we get too much

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information.

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Set alarms, like set alarms, set little
reminders like hey you ate like like you

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said enough protein at this meal.

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Set an alarm.

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like three hours or four hours, you know,
that alarm will go off and be like, hey,

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it's time to eat again.

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00:20:55,588 --> 00:20:59,568
Like even though you may not be hungry,
you may not be used to it, but like, let's

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say you're starving, but you can look back
at your alarms and have it say like, this

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is what you ate.

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00:21:05,488 --> 00:21:06,878
You're eating enough.

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00:21:06,878 --> 00:21:07,638
You're fine.

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00:21:07,638 --> 00:21:09,018
Everything's going to be fine.

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00:21:09,018 --> 00:21:10,548
It's just a part of the process.

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And you can start training your brain to
like kind of turn off and just, hey, I

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don't need to worry about this until this
thing dings again.

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00:21:17,388 --> 00:21:19,352
Like it can help.

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00:21:19,464 --> 00:21:22,804
you not get so mentally worked up.

433
00:21:22,804 --> 00:21:23,244
Yeah.

434
00:21:23,244 --> 00:21:28,104
But this also segues into, I like our
segues.

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00:21:28,104 --> 00:21:31,744
It's like, it's like a road map.

436
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Because I actually had this conversation
yesterday with somebody.

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And that is about your waistline, how to
have a smaller waistline, right?

438
00:21:43,156 --> 00:21:50,786
This is a, it like, we, how do bikini
competitors, as you dial in for a show,

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00:21:50,786 --> 00:21:52,296
get smaller and smaller waistline, right?

440
00:21:52,296 --> 00:21:53,226
Because.

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00:21:53,378 --> 00:21:57,878
At some point you start realizing, if you
don't realize already, that training your

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abs is not gonna necessarily get you a
smaller waistline.

443
00:22:01,318 --> 00:22:05,378
It's gonna get you some ab definition, but
even then, you're gonna learn that it

444
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doesn't.

445
00:22:05,698 --> 00:22:10,638
But as we were talking about diet drinks,
sugar -free drinks, those things can

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actually hurt your waistline, even if they
don't hurt your gut or stomach and you've

447
00:22:16,138 --> 00:22:20,418
been drinking them in excess and they
taste fantastic and it's awesome, but

448
00:22:20,418 --> 00:22:23,316
you're kind of wondering, like, why am I
holding water?

449
00:22:23,316 --> 00:22:25,076
Why are my inches not going down?

450
00:22:25,076 --> 00:22:26,636
Why is this happening?

451
00:22:26,696 --> 00:22:28,536
It could be those drinks.

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00:22:28,536 --> 00:22:30,216
Those drinks.

453
00:22:30,216 --> 00:22:31,061
Mm -hmm.

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00:22:31,061 --> 00:22:33,041
and processed stuff in general.

455
00:22:33,041 --> 00:22:36,711
Like if you think of like processed food
is processed.

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00:22:36,711 --> 00:22:39,051
So your body, you know, doesn't have to
break it down.

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00:22:39,051 --> 00:22:40,161
Like it's already processed.

458
00:22:40,161 --> 00:22:42,321
So it's just sitting in your stomach.

459
00:22:42,321 --> 00:22:44,791
And those things just add to your
waistline.

460
00:22:44,791 --> 00:22:49,641
So I think by minimizing processed foods,
which we kind of do in prep anyways,

461
00:22:49,641 --> 00:22:51,581
unless you are a flexible dieter.

462
00:22:51,581 --> 00:22:55,741
But I think that even when people do
macros in prep, they're still really

463
00:22:55,741 --> 00:22:57,620
eating like whole foods.

464
00:22:57,620 --> 00:23:02,340
and they're making really clean choices
because those foods just do really well in

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your body.

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00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:08,580
So like if it runs on the ground or grows
out of the ground, that's like the best

467
00:23:08,580 --> 00:23:11,400
way to think about the foods that you're
putting in your body.

468
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,640
And so that's like, that's the definition
of like whole foods, like to me really.

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00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,200
And that's gonna make your waistline
really, really tight.

470
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:23,060
Like I've had so many people be like, I'm
going to this party and I wanna look super

471
00:23:23,060 --> 00:23:23,270
hot.

472
00:23:23,270 --> 00:23:24,440
Can I just do like a Pequick?

473
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,933
Like my waist was so small on Pequick.

474
00:23:26,933 --> 00:23:30,952
And it's because like during peak week,
you really do, you eliminate all your

475
00:23:30,952 --> 00:23:35,153
fizzy drinks, you eliminate anything
that's going to be gas producing.

476
00:23:35,153 --> 00:23:38,293
So like if there's certain vegetables,
like the biggest ones, broccoli,

477
00:23:38,293 --> 00:23:42,613
cauliflower and onions are gas producing
for some people.

478
00:23:42,733 --> 00:23:46,133
so if you're eating those things, like
that's going to add a small little bit to

479
00:23:46,133 --> 00:23:47,653
that waistline.

480
00:23:48,313 --> 00:23:51,333
and so, you know, we don't want those
things.

481
00:23:51,333 --> 00:23:52,233
Sodium is fine.

482
00:23:52,233 --> 00:23:55,133
Like I tell people that's not what's
bloating you at all.

483
00:23:55,133 --> 00:23:55,444
And.

484
00:23:55,444 --> 00:23:59,284
You really just want to always keep your
sodium consistent throughout your prep and

485
00:23:59,284 --> 00:24:00,924
through your peak week.

486
00:24:01,264 --> 00:24:04,604
But yeah, just a lot of artificial
sweeteners, fake foods, things like that

487
00:24:04,604 --> 00:24:08,724
can really cause GI distress and a little
bit of bloating.

488
00:24:08,724 --> 00:24:13,024
But I think the waistline question,
particularly because a lot of our

489
00:24:13,024 --> 00:24:18,564
listeners have children, I do want to say
it's important to have patience because if

490
00:24:18,564 --> 00:24:21,864
you've had children, you know, your
waistline grows over nine months.

491
00:24:21,864 --> 00:24:24,735
It is not going to go back even within a
year.

492
00:24:24,916 --> 00:24:29,676
It will go back down to where, you know,
you can have a great physique.

493
00:24:29,676 --> 00:24:32,686
Can you have a competitive physique within
a year?

494
00:24:32,686 --> 00:24:33,616
It depends.

495
00:24:33,616 --> 00:24:34,736
It's very rare.

496
00:24:34,736 --> 00:24:39,056
Like Angelica did it, but also she's got
phenomenal genetics.

497
00:24:39,056 --> 00:24:40,616
Like she is not most women.

498
00:24:40,616 --> 00:24:44,816
And I'm not saying that you can't work
hard and get there, but will it happen in

499
00:24:44,816 --> 00:24:45,786
that kind of a timeline?

500
00:24:45,786 --> 00:24:47,276
Probably not.

501
00:24:47,616 --> 00:24:50,746
but I have seen phenomenal results with
waist training.

502
00:24:50,746 --> 00:24:52,723
I have been wearing a waist trainer.

503
00:24:53,269 --> 00:24:56,329
for every workout for at least six years.

504
00:24:56,549 --> 00:25:01,409
I never not have it on, even when I'm like
in my off season and I'm kind of chubby

505
00:25:01,409 --> 00:25:07,769
and like I look ridiculous, but I don't
care because when I'm in my off season and

506
00:25:07,769 --> 00:25:11,989
I'm trying to build muscle, I don't wanna
also build out my obliques.

507
00:25:11,989 --> 00:25:16,819
You're lifting, doing like heavy rows or
heavy squats.

508
00:25:16,819 --> 00:25:19,469
Like I don't want my waistline to grow.

509
00:25:19,469 --> 00:25:23,157
And lo and behold, every single year when
I cut down, my waist is...

510
00:25:23,157 --> 00:25:25,917
smaller and smaller and smaller because of
waist training.

511
00:25:25,917 --> 00:25:28,717
So a waist trainer is essentially like a
corset.

512
00:25:28,717 --> 00:25:30,477
And it just, it changes how you breathe.

513
00:25:30,477 --> 00:25:31,817
It changes your posture.

514
00:25:31,817 --> 00:25:33,577
It cinches everything in tight.

515
00:25:33,577 --> 00:25:35,147
And it's, it's awesome.

516
00:25:35,147 --> 00:25:39,376
So, I mean, I'm a huge advocate for that
and stomach vacuums have helped me so

517
00:25:39,376 --> 00:25:40,226
much.

518
00:25:40,310 --> 00:25:44,970
we both use the same voice trainer the
squeeze me skinny Yeah, which if you guys

519
00:25:44,970 --> 00:25:47,990
want to take a look at the squeeze me
skinny they're always in there always in

520
00:25:47,990 --> 00:25:51,870
our show notes so you can always scroll
down at any episode you can click on it

521
00:25:51,870 --> 00:25:54,362
and We

522
00:25:54,362 --> 00:25:58,502
code because it is the 10 inch is the 10
inch aggressive trainer is the one that I

523
00:25:58,502 --> 00:26:03,742
recommend no matter what height you are
because I think like the 10 inches like a

524
00:26:03,742 --> 00:26:08,982
little bit long for me and I'm really
really short but the next size up I think

525
00:26:08,982 --> 00:26:13,302
is 12 inches and it's way too long even if
you're tall so I think 10 inches is the

526
00:26:13,302 --> 00:26:13,922
way to go.

527
00:26:13,922 --> 00:26:20,362
The tenant, I have a tenant, so I'm almost
5 '7", I'm like 5 '6", I'm like 3 '4", 3

528
00:26:20,362 --> 00:26:22,122
'4", so I can't talk.

529
00:26:22,122 --> 00:26:24,862
And the 10 inch works like perfect for me.

530
00:26:24,862 --> 00:26:29,512
But I will say like not just waist
trainers, but also stomach vacuuming,

531
00:26:29,512 --> 00:26:31,272
because that was kind of new for me.

532
00:26:31,272 --> 00:26:37,542
And I feel like it was new for me because
when I started in my fitness journey, it

533
00:26:37,542 --> 00:26:39,542
just wasn't around.

534
00:26:39,542 --> 00:26:42,962
And Carson was already three, four years
old.

535
00:26:42,962 --> 00:26:44,028
And so by the time

536
00:26:44,028 --> 00:26:47,348
I got into like competing, I was like, I
don't need to do these.

537
00:26:47,348 --> 00:26:48,178
I don't need to do these.

538
00:26:48,178 --> 00:26:53,188
And then over time, like, no, these are,
these aren't just for people with kids.

539
00:26:53,188 --> 00:26:55,668
Like you, you need to do them.

540
00:26:55,668 --> 00:27:00,468
So stomach vacuuming like is so, so
important.

541
00:27:00,468 --> 00:27:06,328
And we will link like a good tutorial on
how to do stomach vacuums below on the

542
00:27:06,328 --> 00:27:07,168
show notes as well.

543
00:27:07,168 --> 00:27:11,428
But doing those, like rather you're
standing laying down, there's so many

544
00:27:11,428 --> 00:27:12,848
different variations of doing them.

545
00:27:12,848 --> 00:27:14,204
Just do it.

546
00:27:14,204 --> 00:27:16,666
because that's another thing like...

547
00:27:16,682 --> 00:27:21,822
like holding your transverse abdominis
really, really tight, which is the deepest

548
00:27:21,822 --> 00:27:23,422
layer of your abdominal muscles.

549
00:27:23,422 --> 00:27:27,682
And if you've had a C -section, you'll
know they cut through all of that, like

550
00:27:27,682 --> 00:27:33,262
your external obliques, the rest of your
abdominal wall, and then the TVA, which is

551
00:27:33,262 --> 00:27:34,072
at the very bottom.

552
00:27:34,072 --> 00:27:36,562
It's like your inner, they call it like
your inner girdle.

553
00:27:36,562 --> 00:27:38,702
And so you have to really strengthen that.

554
00:27:38,702 --> 00:27:39,414
And so what...

555
00:27:39,414 --> 00:27:43,794
the stomach vacuum technique is, is
essentially breathing in a bunch of air,

556
00:27:43,794 --> 00:27:47,954
letting it all out, and then like pulling
your core in really tight and then holding

557
00:27:47,954 --> 00:27:53,014
it, which will help you like with your
posing and you know, it's, it's tough.

558
00:27:53,014 --> 00:27:55,184
I recommend doing them all year round if
you can.

559
00:27:55,184 --> 00:27:59,314
I get an ice slack in my off season, I
will say, cause they're not my favorite,

560
00:27:59,314 --> 00:28:00,704
but they really do help.

561
00:28:00,704 --> 00:28:02,444
And they're great for digestion too.

562
00:28:02,444 --> 00:28:06,454
Like if you have, this is a little hack,
but if you have a little, like a belly

563
00:28:06,454 --> 00:28:09,073
bubble or like a little trapped gas,

564
00:28:09,078 --> 00:28:15,058
do some stomach vacuums and it'll get that
little trapped bubble out.

565
00:28:17,738 --> 00:28:18,738
So,

566
00:28:19,357 --> 00:28:23,338
those, doing those way more this season.

567
00:28:23,338 --> 00:28:23,782
Mm -hmm.

568
00:28:23,782 --> 00:28:24,342
of videos.

569
00:28:24,342 --> 00:28:29,942
Like if you just like even look on, you
know, TikTok or YouTube or whatever, you

570
00:28:29,942 --> 00:28:30,912
know, and it's really simple.

571
00:28:30,912 --> 00:28:36,482
Just I recommend doing like eight to 10
sets for 30 seconds once a day, or if you

572
00:28:36,482 --> 00:28:38,252
want to break it up and do them twice a
day.

573
00:28:38,252 --> 00:28:43,882
But if, if you have trouble with them,
just go and see a physical therapist for a

574
00:28:43,882 --> 00:28:44,512
couple of sessions.

575
00:28:44,512 --> 00:28:47,762
It won't take long, but because some
people really have a hard time engaging

576
00:28:47,762 --> 00:28:49,015
their lower core.

577
00:28:49,015 --> 00:28:52,495
And just a couple sessions with a pelvic
floor therapist or a physical therapist

578
00:28:52,495 --> 00:28:54,395
will get you doing them properly.

579
00:28:54,395 --> 00:28:58,735
And, and I've had so many people that tell
me like, my, my stomach just always sticks

580
00:28:58,735 --> 00:28:58,975
out.

581
00:28:58,975 --> 00:29:00,335
I'm always bloated.

582
00:29:00,335 --> 00:29:03,975
And it's, it's not most of the time, once
they clean up their diet, if they still

583
00:29:03,975 --> 00:29:07,475
look bloated and they still can't like,
you know, brace their core and hold their

584
00:29:07,475 --> 00:29:11,675
core tight, they probably just really need
to work on those lower core muscles in the

585
00:29:11,675 --> 00:29:15,715
TVA, which isn't going to be activated by
doing planks or doing hanging leg raises

586
00:29:15,715 --> 00:29:18,115
or sit ups, like all that traditional core
work.

587
00:29:18,115 --> 00:29:18,295
Like.

588
00:29:18,295 --> 00:29:22,655
just is like the outside, which builds
like that pretty shape, like of the six or

589
00:29:22,655 --> 00:29:27,335
the eight pack, but it doesn't do anything
to like hold that core really tight.

590
00:29:27,335 --> 00:29:30,855
And in bikini, like they don't really care
if you have a six pack, they're not

591
00:29:30,855 --> 00:29:34,635
looking for that, but the waistline and
the silhouette is so important.

592
00:29:34,635 --> 00:29:38,355
And so if you've got a nice round booty
and beautiful shoulders, but you can't

593
00:29:38,355 --> 00:29:42,815
hold your core tight, somebody's gonna,
you know, definitely out angle you and

594
00:29:42,815 --> 00:29:45,176
move you out of first place.

595
00:29:45,346 --> 00:29:49,066
Yeah, yeah, they definitely don't want to
see the turtle shell abs where your abs

596
00:29:49,066 --> 00:29:52,026
are protruding and it's all like thick.

597
00:29:52,026 --> 00:29:53,156
No turtles.

598
00:29:53,156 --> 00:29:54,936
No turtle shells.

599
00:29:55,896 --> 00:29:58,036
No turtle heads either.

600
00:29:58,582 --> 00:30:04,902
so, so Jillian, what would you do if if
all of a sudden you started snacking on

601
00:30:04,902 --> 00:30:05,392
something?

602
00:30:05,392 --> 00:30:07,902
How do you handle snacking?

603
00:30:07,902 --> 00:30:12,582
That is another hot like a snack -cident.

604
00:30:12,582 --> 00:30:14,802
You always comment that I make up words.

605
00:30:14,802 --> 00:30:18,082
You have been on a roll of making up words
lately.

606
00:30:18,182 --> 00:30:19,268
Snack -cident.

607
00:30:19,268 --> 00:30:19,908
accident.

608
00:30:19,908 --> 00:30:25,568
Yeah, well, I mean, first of all, if
something is triggering you, don't keep it

609
00:30:25,568 --> 00:30:26,328
in the house.

610
00:30:26,328 --> 00:30:31,808
Like, you know, if there's just a snack
that you just can't, you know, your kids

611
00:30:31,808 --> 00:30:32,868
love it.

612
00:30:32,868 --> 00:30:37,168
They're gonna have to do without their
cool ranch Doritos while mama's in prep.

613
00:30:38,228 --> 00:30:39,846
Because no.

614
00:30:39,846 --> 00:30:40,166
I say.

615
00:30:40,166 --> 00:30:41,336
I'm like, food is right.

616
00:30:41,336 --> 00:30:44,466
I always tell my clients, I'm like, do you
know that you're sitting, like you're

617
00:30:44,466 --> 00:30:45,426
sitting right now.

618
00:30:45,426 --> 00:30:49,886
You can pick up your phone and you can
door dash anything that you imagine and it

619
00:30:49,886 --> 00:30:51,486
will show up at your door.

620
00:30:51,486 --> 00:30:55,836
You're just going a little bit of time
without certain things.

621
00:30:55,836 --> 00:30:57,626
It's gonna be okay.

622
00:30:57,626 --> 00:30:59,050
It's not going anywhere.

623
00:30:59,050 --> 00:31:00,360
like, don't tempt yourself.

624
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,220
Like, I'm not saying, like, clean your
house of, like, if you can't have stuff in

625
00:31:04,220 --> 00:31:06,740
your house without eating it, there's a
bigger problem.

626
00:31:06,740 --> 00:31:11,240
And you probably should work with somebody
on your relationship with food, because

627
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,680
when you get to accepting that you're
going to do a competition and it's going

628
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,200
to take some discipline around eating, you
know, you're going to have to say no to

629
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,410
those things and be OK with it.

630
00:31:20,410 --> 00:31:23,740
So you should be you should be OK with
being around those things.

631
00:31:23,740 --> 00:31:26,903
But if there's something in particular
that just.

632
00:31:26,903 --> 00:31:30,163
You know, if it's like chocolate chips or
like I'm trying to think of things that

633
00:31:30,163 --> 00:31:31,543
you can just so easily grab.

634
00:31:31,543 --> 00:31:33,003
Like that's what moms do, right?

635
00:31:33,003 --> 00:31:34,523
Like we're yeah.

636
00:31:34,523 --> 00:31:40,523
So just either keep them out of sight
where they're not in view or just don't

637
00:31:40,523 --> 00:31:44,023
buy them for a little while or like send
them out with send the kids out with dad

638
00:31:44,023 --> 00:31:46,783
to go get cookies and they can eat them
outside of the house.

639
00:31:46,783 --> 00:31:47,443
Like, yeah.

640
00:31:47,443 --> 00:31:50,093
So, you know, that's one thing that we do.

641
00:31:50,093 --> 00:31:53,603
I mean, we have a lot of stuff in the
house, but I'm not about to like be

642
00:31:53,603 --> 00:31:56,214
bringing in all my favorite treats for the
kids and.

643
00:31:56,214 --> 00:31:58,314
you know, expecting myself not to like
dream about them.

644
00:31:58,314 --> 00:31:59,504
Cause I work from home too.

645
00:31:59,504 --> 00:32:01,354
So like it's right there.

646
00:32:01,354 --> 00:32:06,854
So, but yeah, I think, and I think if you,
if you do find yourself, like if you have

647
00:32:06,854 --> 00:32:11,274
a snack stand or if you binge, there's so
many resources, you know, there's full

648
00:32:11,274 --> 00:32:15,024
courses for food relationships or for your
relationship with food.

649
00:32:15,024 --> 00:32:16,234
You don't have to suffer.

650
00:32:16,234 --> 00:32:20,184
Like you're not the only person as there's
a lot of shame surrounding it.

651
00:32:20,184 --> 00:32:23,794
There's so many people that just feel
really weak and they don't even want to

652
00:32:23,794 --> 00:32:25,270
talk to their coach about it.

653
00:32:25,270 --> 00:32:27,040
or they're like, yeah, just never do it
again.

654
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:31,290
But you know, if you are having issues
with binging and snacking and you really

655
00:32:31,290 --> 00:32:34,370
can't stop yourself, like talk to
somebody, talk to your coach.

656
00:32:34,370 --> 00:32:35,630
There's so many resources.

657
00:32:35,630 --> 00:32:39,230
And if you have to just take a break from
prep and come back when you're in a better

658
00:32:39,230 --> 00:32:43,130
mind space, like then do it because the
stage isn't going anywhere and you'll have

659
00:32:43,130 --> 00:32:48,869
a much better journey without the stress
of, you know, issues with food and binging

660
00:32:48,869 --> 00:32:51,853
and, you know, unnecessary snacking.

661
00:32:52,506 --> 00:32:53,224
yeah.

662
00:32:53,250 --> 00:32:56,410
Yeah, I definitely fell into that category
not that long ago.

663
00:32:56,410 --> 00:33:01,850
I mean, I feel like it wasn't that long
ago where I would snack on something and

664
00:33:01,850 --> 00:33:03,850
I'll be like, I'm just not going to do
this again.

665
00:33:03,850 --> 00:33:05,130
Like, don't do this again, Mandy.

666
00:33:05,130 --> 00:33:06,770
And I wouldn't want to tell my coach.

667
00:33:06,770 --> 00:33:09,190
I didn't want to have to deal with the.

668
00:33:09,190 --> 00:33:10,950
And this was, you know, it was a while
ago.

669
00:33:10,950 --> 00:33:11,900
I had a different coach.

670
00:33:11,900 --> 00:33:15,130
I didn't want to have to deal with the
lashing because I accidentally like

671
00:33:15,130 --> 00:33:15,950
overate something.

672
00:33:15,950 --> 00:33:17,870
And then I'd be like, no, maybe don't do
that again.

673
00:33:17,870 --> 00:33:19,310
And I wasn't even prepping for a show.

674
00:33:19,310 --> 00:33:20,470
This was during an off season.

675
00:33:20,470 --> 00:33:23,496
And I just it mentally.

676
00:33:23,496 --> 00:33:25,156
me down because I felt so defeated.

677
00:33:25,156 --> 00:33:33,096
I felt like I was constantly trying to
achieve something that was being so

678
00:33:33,096 --> 00:33:36,416
difficult and I couldn't figure out
mentally like why was this such a problem

679
00:33:36,416 --> 00:33:40,406
when I've never had this problem before of
like randomly snacking.

680
00:33:40,406 --> 00:33:43,636
And it wasn't even my kids food but it was
like it was a snacking problem and I was

681
00:33:43,636 --> 00:33:44,776
just like why am I doing this?

682
00:33:44,776 --> 00:33:48,956
Like I'm not even that hungry but I'm like
I'm just grabbing stuff like little things

683
00:33:48,956 --> 00:33:49,776
that are in the pantry.

684
00:33:49,776 --> 00:33:52,606
But just like you said I took a step back.

685
00:33:52,606 --> 00:33:53,512
I

686
00:33:53,512 --> 00:33:55,022
talked to somebody about it.

687
00:33:55,022 --> 00:33:57,012
I like had my hormones checked.

688
00:33:57,012 --> 00:34:02,332
I tried to figure out exactly what was
going on and I took those steps so I could

689
00:34:02,332 --> 00:34:08,232
be in a better relationship with food,
with myself, with like mental awareness of

690
00:34:08,232 --> 00:34:10,292
like why was I doing that?

691
00:34:10,292 --> 00:34:11,342
What was going on?

692
00:34:11,342 --> 00:34:12,772
Like how did I feel?

693
00:34:12,772 --> 00:34:16,912
Because that's something also with
snacking is like if you're getting ready

694
00:34:16,912 --> 00:34:21,892
for a show and you have a slip up and you
just because you're out to dinner and you

695
00:34:21,892 --> 00:34:23,068
packed your food and you ate

696
00:34:23,068 --> 00:34:25,748
your food but something at the table
smells really good and you have like a

697
00:34:25,748 --> 00:34:30,648
couple bites of french fries, okay, is
that like you tell your coach it's an

698
00:34:30,648 --> 00:34:33,768
accident, it was there, and then you just
don't do it again.

699
00:34:33,768 --> 00:34:35,668
That happens, it happens.

700
00:34:35,668 --> 00:34:40,588
There's the difference between that
happening and then you are snacking every

701
00:34:40,588 --> 00:34:45,108
week or you feel really defeated or you
don't feel good mentally.

702
00:34:45,410 --> 00:34:49,010
and taking a step back and figuring out
why for sure, like what is going on that's

703
00:34:49,010 --> 00:34:53,050
causing you to do this every week that
you're not succeeding in your original

704
00:34:53,050 --> 00:34:54,190
goal.

705
00:34:54,550 --> 00:34:55,236
So.

706
00:34:55,236 --> 00:34:57,976
your journey when you were trying to
remedy that?

707
00:34:57,976 --> 00:35:01,226
What did you find was going on with you
that was causing it?

708
00:35:01,226 --> 00:35:03,151
And then what did you do to help it?

709
00:35:04,546 --> 00:35:05,946
So.

710
00:35:06,242 --> 00:35:10,962
What was causing it was I was done
competing and I preach about this a lot.

711
00:35:10,962 --> 00:35:12,362
I was done with my shows.

712
00:35:12,362 --> 00:35:17,602
I was in an off season, but I was still
following a plan of my off season and I

713
00:35:17,602 --> 00:35:23,202
was struggling with following that plan
because when I worked with my coach at the

714
00:35:23,202 --> 00:35:29,682
time, I was following the plan, but my
feedback wasn't matching what was supposed

715
00:35:29,682 --> 00:35:30,282
to be happening.

716
00:35:30,282 --> 00:35:36,248
I had very conflicting issues with it and
I thought I was doing it right, but I was

717
00:35:36,248 --> 00:35:39,008
doing it wrong, I guess, for the feedback
I got.

718
00:35:39,008 --> 00:35:41,628
So I mentally was like, I was worn out.

719
00:35:41,628 --> 00:35:46,208
I was already like, I already prepped for
several months, did shows.

720
00:35:46,208 --> 00:35:49,228
I was done prepping for like the year.

721
00:35:49,468 --> 00:35:55,248
And I just, my off season was not a good
experience with that current coach at the

722
00:35:55,248 --> 00:35:55,968
time.

723
00:35:55,968 --> 00:35:58,328
And I struggled immensely with that.

724
00:35:58,328 --> 00:36:02,328
I got to a point where I didn't even want
to check in and I didn't know what I was

725
00:36:02,328 --> 00:36:03,728
doing wrong or how to do it right.

726
00:36:03,728 --> 00:36:05,328
So that was going on.

727
00:36:05,328 --> 00:36:06,004
And also,

728
00:36:06,004 --> 00:36:09,654
trying to like balance an offseason like
okay, I want to go out to dinner.

729
00:36:09,654 --> 00:36:15,624
I want to have time with my husband or my
family and Be able to enjoy myself but

730
00:36:15,624 --> 00:36:19,684
also be structured and make sure I'm
getting the progress So learning how to

731
00:36:19,684 --> 00:36:23,864
juggle that but like I wasn't in a good
relationship with my coach at the time So

732
00:36:23,864 --> 00:36:29,844
that really hurt me a lot and what ended
up happening is I got injured

733
00:36:30,626 --> 00:36:33,086
I got injured at the gym, I herniated my
disc.

734
00:36:33,086 --> 00:36:36,746
So that just threw everything out because
I couldn't even work out for a while.

735
00:36:36,746 --> 00:36:40,286
I couldn't work out till we figured out
what was wrong and then I could work out

736
00:36:40,286 --> 00:36:42,306
upper body, but I couldn't do cardio or
anything.

737
00:36:42,306 --> 00:36:45,426
I couldn't lift any lower body for months.

738
00:36:45,566 --> 00:36:50,786
So I stopped, obviously my contract froze
and we didn't work together anymore.

739
00:36:50,786 --> 00:36:53,926
So it kind of just became a different
journey of now it was just about how to

740
00:36:53,926 --> 00:36:56,006
heal my back and.

741
00:36:56,418 --> 00:37:01,078
You know, I still prepped and ate like the
proper amount of protein and vegetables

742
00:37:01,078 --> 00:37:05,668
and carbs, but I definitely was enjoying
myself more with food.

743
00:37:05,668 --> 00:37:09,958
I was trying to heal my injury and kind of
go about that.

744
00:37:09,958 --> 00:37:18,438
The break I took from that coach and that
time, it just helps me tremendously.

745
00:37:18,438 --> 00:37:20,878
Like that's really what it was.

746
00:37:21,318 --> 00:37:23,878
So yeah, just figuring that out.

747
00:37:23,878 --> 00:37:24,660
Mm -hmm.

748
00:37:24,660 --> 00:37:28,180
hard to talk about, like, because I mean,
I think what you're saying is that you

749
00:37:28,180 --> 00:37:35,389
just didn't align with the methods, you
know, and that's what's so hard.

750
00:37:35,389 --> 00:37:39,380
And this is a topic that we are going to
talk about as well as making a coaching

751
00:37:39,380 --> 00:37:44,520
switch, because it's so hard when you like
the person, but you just it's not a good

752
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:45,220
fit anymore.

753
00:37:45,220 --> 00:37:46,470
And it's so hard.

754
00:37:46,470 --> 00:37:46,904
-hmm.

755
00:37:46,904 --> 00:37:50,384
to do that because you could really just,
you know, you want to be a part of that

756
00:37:50,384 --> 00:37:52,634
team or you want to be with that coach.

757
00:37:52,634 --> 00:37:56,624
But if you just don't feel like you're on
the same page, then it just feels like

758
00:37:56,624 --> 00:37:58,944
you're kind of just like running up
against a brick wall.

759
00:37:58,944 --> 00:38:05,064
And I think that was very similar for me
in in my prep in twenty twenty three.

760
00:38:05,064 --> 00:38:06,284
And I think I was.

761
00:38:06,284 --> 00:38:11,184
Yeah, I was definitely self sabotaging
quite a bit because I just wasn't getting

762
00:38:11,184 --> 00:38:15,464
encouraging feedback and I just didn't
feel like a priority.

763
00:38:15,464 --> 00:38:16,724
And.

764
00:38:16,984 --> 00:38:21,144
You know, almost like I felt like I was
giving up on myself because they were kind

765
00:38:21,144 --> 00:38:22,504
of giving up on me, too.

766
00:38:22,504 --> 00:38:28,384
And I also but but then I think, OK, well,
let me look at this from an outsider

767
00:38:28,384 --> 00:38:28,904
perspective.

768
00:38:28,904 --> 00:38:30,304
Like, am I being dramatic?

769
00:38:30,304 --> 00:38:35,284
You know, so I did definitely wanted to
consider like all all aspects before I

770
00:38:35,284 --> 00:38:36,264
made like a switch.

771
00:38:36,264 --> 00:38:39,364
But I think just at the end of the day,
like, you know, things have changed and it

772
00:38:39,364 --> 00:38:40,434
was just time for a switch.

773
00:38:40,434 --> 00:38:46,201
But I think ultimately conflict or
misunderstandings can cause, you know,

774
00:38:46,201 --> 00:38:51,221
turmoil and stress and how do we act out
some people, you know, find themselves

775
00:38:51,221 --> 00:38:55,001
snacking or whatever it might be, you
know, so.

776
00:38:55,001 --> 00:38:56,561
So that's interesting.

777
00:38:56,561 --> 00:38:59,881
But I think the take home is just that
it's normal.

778
00:38:59,881 --> 00:39:02,851
And if you keep it a secret, you can't fix
it.

779
00:39:02,851 --> 00:39:07,361
And that's so women to be like, I'll just
fix it like it won't happen again.

780
00:39:07,361 --> 00:39:11,361
It's if it happened once, it's waiting on
your doorstep to happen again.

781
00:39:11,361 --> 00:39:13,497
And it's just better to talk about it.

782
00:39:13,497 --> 00:39:18,267
with somebody and find some strategies so
that you can, you know, prevent it.

783
00:39:18,267 --> 00:39:21,977
Because I think binge eating can just
really cause a lot of shame.

784
00:39:21,977 --> 00:39:25,897
And, you know, it really makes people feel
like almost like they're a fraud, you

785
00:39:25,897 --> 00:39:30,077
know, like, I'm this fitness person and I
did this competition and everybody is

786
00:39:30,077 --> 00:39:31,387
like, my God, you did so great.

787
00:39:31,387 --> 00:39:32,937
But like, I can't control my snacking.

788
00:39:32,937 --> 00:39:33,897
I can't control this.

789
00:39:33,897 --> 00:39:38,837
And it's it's normal after shows to sort
of feel that way and to lose control a

790
00:39:38,837 --> 00:39:39,087
little bit.

791
00:39:39,087 --> 00:39:40,592
But if it carries on.

792
00:39:40,601 --> 00:39:46,121
There's there are so many resources like
ask us, you know, reach out like there's

793
00:39:46,121 --> 00:39:48,901
so many ways that you that you don't have
to suffer years ago.

794
00:39:48,901 --> 00:39:54,301
Like I remember going through it in my 20s
and just being like, you know, guys at the

795
00:39:54,301 --> 00:39:56,831
gym were like, I don't know, like pochle
blues.

796
00:39:56,831 --> 00:39:57,921
Like, what are you even talking about?

797
00:39:57,921 --> 00:40:02,401
You know, but you just didn't have the
resources we do now.

798
00:40:02,661 --> 00:40:06,181
And then I went, I remember going to like
a counselor, like an eating disorder

799
00:40:06,181 --> 00:40:06,731
specialist.

800
00:40:06,731 --> 00:40:08,571
I'm like, I don't really belong here.

801
00:40:08,571 --> 00:40:09,369
Like I'm like, I don't.

802
00:40:09,369 --> 00:40:13,629
I'm not like bulimic and like, I don't
think she understands bodybuilding.

803
00:40:13,629 --> 00:40:16,639
She's like, could we just possibly not
exercise?

804
00:40:16,639 --> 00:40:18,469
I'm like, the fuck out of here?

805
00:40:18,469 --> 00:40:19,989
Like, that's not what I need.

806
00:40:19,989 --> 00:40:21,139
What are you talking about?

807
00:40:21,139 --> 00:40:24,429
Like, she couldn't help me, like, because
it was not related.

808
00:40:24,429 --> 00:40:27,809
Like, I'm like, no, I want to still do
this sport.

809
00:40:27,809 --> 00:40:31,049
Like this therapist was basically like the
bodybuilding is probably the worst thing

810
00:40:31,049 --> 00:40:31,579
for you.

811
00:40:31,579 --> 00:40:34,709
And I'm like, I don't think so.

812
00:40:34,709 --> 00:40:36,609
So anyways.

813
00:40:37,209 --> 00:40:37,994
But.

814
00:40:37,994 --> 00:40:43,154
I don't think, I don't think, I totally
understand the fear of co -chopping.

815
00:40:43,154 --> 00:40:48,474
I get it, but I feel like, I don't know.

816
00:40:48,474 --> 00:40:50,977
Co -switching, co -chopping, whatever you
want.

817
00:40:50,977 --> 00:40:53,277
yeah, -huh, yeah.

818
00:40:53,277 --> 00:40:56,617
Is that the avenue we're going down next?

819
00:40:56,674 --> 00:40:59,534
Coach, we just, we talked about like a few
different things.

820
00:40:59,534 --> 00:41:01,261
We could go down a few.

821
00:41:01,261 --> 00:41:01,911
down that one.

822
00:41:01,911 --> 00:41:04,761
Yeah, well, yeah, just to touch on it a
little bit more.

823
00:41:05,250 --> 00:41:08,030
But yeah, I don't think there's anything
wrong with coaching.

824
00:41:08,030 --> 00:41:11,450
I don't think there's anything wrong with
talking to your current coach about if you

825
00:41:11,450 --> 00:41:16,030
are not aligning or if you aren't, if
you're butting heads, if you do feel, I

826
00:41:16,030 --> 00:41:22,410
feel like what happens is as athletes,
we're with a coach and we start really,

827
00:41:22,410 --> 00:41:25,490
like we believe in that coach, the coach
believe in us, we build this great

828
00:41:25,490 --> 00:41:27,370
relationship, this great bond.

829
00:41:27,410 --> 00:41:31,430
If you're getting to a point where
something doesn't feel right in your gut

830
00:41:31,430 --> 00:41:34,410
and like you should talk to that coach
first.

831
00:41:34,410 --> 00:41:35,256
Like you should be,

832
00:41:35,256 --> 00:41:37,346
like, Hey, something's like up,
something's not right.

833
00:41:37,346 --> 00:41:39,056
Like I'm doing like whatever.

834
00:41:39,056 --> 00:41:43,316
And then if it's still not working, it's
still not aligning, you know, like see

835
00:41:43,316 --> 00:41:46,036
what you can do and be like, Hey, like
this isn't working.

836
00:41:46,036 --> 00:41:48,456
And like, you can switch coaches.

837
00:41:48,456 --> 00:41:49,296
It will be okay.

838
00:41:49,296 --> 00:41:52,546
You can talk to that current coach and be
like, Hey, I love the team.

839
00:41:52,546 --> 00:41:53,576
I love the team dynamic.

840
00:41:53,576 --> 00:41:55,596
Can I switch to a different coach on the
team?

841
00:41:55,596 --> 00:42:00,256
You know, like there's so many ways, like
it's just, it's like you said, like as

842
00:42:00,256 --> 00:42:01,316
women, we're like, we'll figure it out.

843
00:42:01,316 --> 00:42:01,826
We'll fix it.

844
00:42:01,826 --> 00:42:02,376
We'll figure it out.

845
00:42:02,376 --> 00:42:02,816
We'll fix it.

846
00:42:02,816 --> 00:42:05,560
It's like talk, communicate.

847
00:42:06,112 --> 00:42:06,852
it's okay.

848
00:42:06,852 --> 00:42:10,312
It's always gonna be okay if you talk and
communicate.

849
00:42:10,904 --> 00:42:17,544
Yeah, I mean, I think you do tend to get a
little sensitive in prep, you know, so I

850
00:42:17,544 --> 00:42:21,284
think that it's important to like consider
that, like, you know, are you just getting

851
00:42:21,284 --> 00:42:22,444
carried away with your emotions?

852
00:42:22,444 --> 00:42:28,044
Like you can't take a dry message from
your coach and go like, they hate me, you

853
00:42:28,044 --> 00:42:32,824
know, like these are business owners that
are just doing their job and they are

854
00:42:32,824 --> 00:42:36,793
really not, they are not connecting any
emotion to their feedback.

855
00:42:36,793 --> 00:42:41,233
but because we're talking about your body,
then it can be a little, you could be a

856
00:42:41,233 --> 00:42:42,353
little bit sensitive.

857
00:42:42,353 --> 00:42:46,013
Like, you know, I've, I've had clients
like, are you mad at me?

858
00:42:46,013 --> 00:42:47,373
I'm like, no.

859
00:42:48,393 --> 00:42:52,573
I just wasn't sure because like I wrote
you like a couple of days ago and you just

860
00:42:52,573 --> 00:42:53,563
gave me like a thumbs up.

861
00:42:53,563 --> 00:42:54,963
I'm like, I was probably busy.

862
00:42:54,963 --> 00:42:58,993
Like if I knew it was important, like I
would have absolutely, you know, so I

863
00:42:58,993 --> 00:43:03,593
think being a good communicator, but also
just really, are you being sensitive?

864
00:43:03,593 --> 00:43:04,497
You know,

865
00:43:04,732 --> 00:43:09,232
and then also, I think if you have certain
expectations, make sure you talk about

866
00:43:09,232 --> 00:43:14,392
those on the front end, like don't make
those expectations known, like at the

867
00:43:14,392 --> 00:43:19,072
midway point end of the process, because
you might not get those expectations

868
00:43:19,072 --> 00:43:19,572
fulfilled.

869
00:43:19,572 --> 00:43:24,372
So I think that interviewing coaches is
important and like, don't just sit on an

870
00:43:24,372 --> 00:43:26,082
interview with a coach and let them just
blabla.

871
00:43:26,082 --> 00:43:27,592
Like don't let them do all the talking.

872
00:43:27,592 --> 00:43:28,642
Ask a lot of questions.

873
00:43:28,642 --> 00:43:32,832
I'm always blown away when people don't
ask me or they don't have an idea of what

874
00:43:32,832 --> 00:43:34,104
they're looking for.

875
00:43:34,104 --> 00:43:38,104
It's like really like like when you're
making a decision to work with a coach

876
00:43:38,104 --> 00:43:41,944
like it's not a one month investment like
you're probably going to be with this

877
00:43:41,944 --> 00:43:42,964
person for like a year.

878
00:43:42,964 --> 00:43:47,984
So you better make sure that you know,
you've asked all the questions and like

879
00:43:47,984 --> 00:43:52,384
I've said this before in other episodes
like you know, you might not be able to

880
00:43:52,384 --> 00:43:55,724
get a clear answer on their methodologies
because they're going to do what works

881
00:43:55,724 --> 00:43:56,894
best for you.

882
00:43:56,894 --> 00:44:03,224
But you know, asking things like you know,
what how do you view the offseason and you

883
00:44:03,224 --> 00:44:03,705
know,

884
00:44:03,705 --> 00:44:09,425
what when you're trying to help me out of
a plateau, what are some things that I

885
00:44:09,425 --> 00:44:10,095
could expect?

886
00:44:10,095 --> 00:44:11,745
You know, things like that.

887
00:44:11,745 --> 00:44:17,645
Communications timeline of like, if I have
a bunch of questions, like how do I ask

888
00:44:17,645 --> 00:44:18,545
those things?

889
00:44:18,545 --> 00:44:22,405
You know, and they might say, well, we can
do a monthly phone call or every week when

890
00:44:22,405 --> 00:44:25,545
you send your check in, include all your
questions and just like get all that stuff

891
00:44:25,545 --> 00:44:26,525
out in the very beginning.

892
00:44:26,525 --> 00:44:31,513
Because I think that when I made a
coaching switch, I don't think that I.

893
00:44:31,513 --> 00:44:35,843
was clear about the things I was not happy
about and that wasn't fair.

894
00:44:35,843 --> 00:44:39,213
I probably should have spoken up, but I
just don't like conflict.

895
00:44:39,213 --> 00:44:42,013
And I really believe everybody's, you
know, at the end of the day, a good

896
00:44:42,013 --> 00:44:42,433
person.

897
00:44:42,433 --> 00:44:46,293
I just was like, I just think our time
here is, it's just time for us to part

898
00:44:46,293 --> 00:44:47,253
ways.

899
00:44:47,393 --> 00:44:49,402
So, yeah.

900
00:44:49,402 --> 00:44:53,162
see that though because I feel like I feel
like my conflicts with my previous coach

901
00:44:53,162 --> 00:44:55,462
like I feel like during prep was fine.

902
00:44:55,462 --> 00:44:57,992
Like my prep was was great.

903
00:44:57,992 --> 00:45:02,022
I prepped great for the shows like I did
like it it met my expectations.

904
00:45:02,022 --> 00:45:03,012
Communication was great.

905
00:45:03,012 --> 00:45:03,891
Everything was good.

906
00:45:03,891 --> 00:45:10,972
It wasn't until we hit the offseason to
where it just got very just not great.

907
00:45:10,972 --> 00:45:13,132
It wasn't like it just wasn't great.

908
00:45:13,132 --> 00:45:14,272
Expectations wasn't great.

909
00:45:14,272 --> 00:45:16,122
Communication wasn't great.

910
00:45:17,090 --> 00:45:20,160
It was just not, it was not what I thought
it was gonna be.

911
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,870
But that's like you said, you kind of get,
you need to confront all that stuff head

912
00:45:23,870 --> 00:45:24,060
on.

913
00:45:24,060 --> 00:45:28,110
And I will say when like I started my
prep, the last thing I was, I did not

914
00:45:28,110 --> 00:45:30,510
communicate like, how do I anticipate an
off season?

915
00:45:30,510 --> 00:45:34,930
It was like, okay, well, how are we gonna
go through several, several months of

916
00:45:34,930 --> 00:45:35,430
prep?

917
00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:38,380
You know, so it was a lesson learned
though.

918
00:45:38,380 --> 00:45:40,890
But that's like my coach now knows like
everything about me.

919
00:45:40,890 --> 00:45:43,410
My coach knows what I wanna do in five
years.

920
00:45:45,465 --> 00:45:46,646
That's awesome.

921
00:45:46,646 --> 00:45:48,286
she does.

922
00:45:48,806 --> 00:45:54,606
But I also, I do love how coaches, like
you said, take the emotion out of it.

923
00:45:54,606 --> 00:45:57,216
It is about our bodies and we are gonna
freak out.

924
00:45:57,216 --> 00:46:04,246
We are gonna send some messages and be sad
or upset or disappointed or lost or just

925
00:46:04,246 --> 00:46:05,866
upset, right?

926
00:46:05,866 --> 00:46:11,446
Your coach is going to remove that emotion
and get you to your goal.

927
00:46:11,466 --> 00:46:15,960
And rather it's a thumbs up or a little
heart emoji, whatever it is.

928
00:46:16,292 --> 00:46:21,292
can't think of any time a coach would ever
be mad, right?

929
00:46:21,292 --> 00:46:24,052
It's just like, nope, this is what we're
gonna do.

930
00:46:24,052 --> 00:46:27,072
You're fine and move on.

931
00:46:27,072 --> 00:46:28,297
So, yeah.

932
00:46:28,297 --> 00:46:33,837
that that's, that's a tough place to be to
like, you know, as coaches ourselves and

933
00:46:33,837 --> 00:46:38,967
then as competitors who have coaches, you
know, we, we see different, we see the,

934
00:46:38,967 --> 00:46:43,037
our relationship with our clients and we
see our relationship with our coaches.

935
00:46:43,557 --> 00:46:46,357
and you know, I think everybody is
different, right?

936
00:46:46,357 --> 00:46:52,237
Like, I don't doubt that there's girls
that have a million questions and message

937
00:46:52,237 --> 00:46:54,897
my coach all the time, even though I would
never do that.

938
00:46:54,897 --> 00:46:55,897
You know, like.

939
00:46:55,897 --> 00:46:57,897
I just kind of keep it short and sweet.

940
00:46:57,897 --> 00:47:01,557
And if I have something going on,
sometimes I just sit on it.

941
00:47:01,557 --> 00:47:04,437
Like if something's bothering me,
sometimes I just wait a little bit.

942
00:47:04,437 --> 00:47:06,627
And then by the next day I'm like, okay,
I'm totally fine.

943
00:47:06,627 --> 00:47:10,297
That was like just a blip, you know?

944
00:47:10,397 --> 00:47:15,877
But, you know, I think sometimes, you
know, we're asked to like solve all these

945
00:47:15,877 --> 00:47:17,477
big dilemmas.

946
00:47:17,477 --> 00:47:23,717
And it's like, well, you know, I have a
job which is encourage you, guide you, lay

947
00:47:23,717 --> 00:47:24,729
the blueprint.

948
00:47:24,729 --> 00:47:27,849
for your journey, you know, but I can't
fix everything else.

949
00:47:27,849 --> 00:47:28,539
I've got you.

950
00:47:28,539 --> 00:47:30,469
I've always got your back, you know?

951
00:47:30,469 --> 00:47:34,089
And so, but that can be hard when you're
in prep and you are really emotional and

952
00:47:34,089 --> 00:47:36,949
maybe no one around you really understands
what you're experiencing, but your coach

953
00:47:36,949 --> 00:47:37,569
does, right?

954
00:47:37,569 --> 00:47:40,549
Because they've coached lots of people
before and they're competitors too.

955
00:47:40,549 --> 00:47:45,349
So I think it's just that fine line of
sort of like, okay, like when am I like

956
00:47:45,349 --> 00:47:46,939
dumping everything on my coach?

957
00:47:46,939 --> 00:47:49,209
And then when am I like...

958
00:47:49,209 --> 00:47:53,129
you know, just appropriately sort of like
asking for their support, you know, but

959
00:47:53,129 --> 00:47:57,629
then by the same token, I don't think it's
healthy to keep stuff in because I've

960
00:47:57,629 --> 00:48:00,969
definitely had where, well, I didn't want
to tell you that I spent last weekend in

961
00:48:00,969 --> 00:48:01,489
the ER.

962
00:48:01,489 --> 00:48:02,209
I'm like, what?

963
00:48:02,209 --> 00:48:03,059
Why didn't that?

964
00:48:03,059 --> 00:48:04,289
I need to know like that.

965
00:48:04,289 --> 00:48:05,669
I didn't want to bother you.

966
00:48:05,669 --> 00:48:07,554
Like, no, I need to know that.

967
00:48:07,554 --> 00:48:13,074
I have a solution for, so what I do, I
have a notepad in my, cause my iPhone, I

968
00:48:13,074 --> 00:48:14,294
have under notes.

969
00:48:14,294 --> 00:48:16,098
I have a.

970
00:48:16,098 --> 00:48:21,938
like I start making notes for my check
-in, like after my last check -in because

971
00:48:21,938 --> 00:48:26,578
of that, because of the highs and lows of
being emotional, like getting closer to

972
00:48:26,578 --> 00:48:28,408
show, like is it important to ask right
now?

973
00:48:28,408 --> 00:48:29,698
Is it important to send later?

974
00:48:29,698 --> 00:48:35,198
So I keep in my notepad everything I'm
going to send in my check -in for my next

975
00:48:35,198 --> 00:48:35,778
check -in.

976
00:48:35,778 --> 00:48:40,488
And then as the week goes on, like I edit
that note or I add stuff.

977
00:48:40,488 --> 00:48:44,978
And then obviously if it is something of
like importance where it's going to really

978
00:48:44,978 --> 00:48:46,004
affect something,

979
00:48:46,004 --> 00:48:52,094
I'll send a message that day and be like,
hey, this is what's happening in that way.

980
00:48:52,094 --> 00:48:54,023
But other than that, I keep all of that
saved.

981
00:48:54,023 --> 00:48:57,102
And then on my next check -in, I copy
paste it.

982
00:48:57,102 --> 00:49:02,262
a lot of stuff that goes on and I just,
you know, a lot of things happening and I

983
00:49:02,262 --> 00:49:06,202
kind of just like once a week to sort of
be like, okay, today's the day that I send

984
00:49:06,202 --> 00:49:09,102
my posing videos, I send my check -in
photos, I get my check -in back, I speak

985
00:49:09,102 --> 00:49:11,842
to my coach and then I go away and do the
work for a week.

986
00:49:11,842 --> 00:49:13,062
I kind of like it that way.

987
00:49:13,062 --> 00:49:17,942
I wouldn't want to do the back and forth
every day of updates and check -ins.

988
00:49:17,942 --> 00:49:21,562
Of course, during peak week, that's going
to be more common, but you know, I think

989
00:49:21,562 --> 00:49:23,418
just, you know, it's just kind of just...

990
00:49:23,418 --> 00:49:25,848
let things, the body just do its job.

991
00:49:25,848 --> 00:49:27,278
You can't rush the process.

992
00:49:27,278 --> 00:49:30,918
And so, yeah, I kind of do the same thing
and just keep little notes.

993
00:49:30,918 --> 00:49:33,578
And then sometimes by the time check -in
day comes in, like, I don't need to ask

994
00:49:33,578 --> 00:49:33,938
that anymore.

995
00:49:33,938 --> 00:49:35,234
I figured that out, you know.

996
00:49:35,234 --> 00:49:37,774
I've had that before, yeah.

997
00:49:38,834 --> 00:49:42,235
Yeah, peak week's different though, they
talk like every day during peak week.

998
00:49:42,235 --> 00:49:47,855
Speaking of peak week, one other question
that we get a lot is what happens if you

999
00:49:47,855 --> 00:49:52,735
get your period during peak week or on
show day?

1000
00:49:53,055 --> 00:49:57,942
So I don't know if you would like to start
that topic.

1001
00:49:57,942 --> 00:49:59,422
happen too often though.

1002
00:49:59,422 --> 00:50:04,062
So I know this has been a topic for you
before, cause I know we've talked about it

1003
00:50:04,062 --> 00:50:08,632
before, but I don't see this too often,
but I will say it when I have seen it,

1004
00:50:08,632 --> 00:50:12,182
it's not as big a deal as we think it is.

1005
00:50:12,182 --> 00:50:18,222
It's more blown up in our head than like
the actual event of having our cycle on

1006
00:50:18,222 --> 00:50:21,522
peak week or show day because our calories
are already so low.

1007
00:50:21,522 --> 00:50:24,962
We're already like recovering from, we're
trying to reduce inflammation and that's

1008
00:50:24,962 --> 00:50:27,576
just a slight inflammation and it's only
in our.

1009
00:50:27,908 --> 00:50:35,568
and like it's we freak out which the
freaking out makes it bad because then it

1010
00:50:35,568 --> 00:50:41,488
hurts our digestion and our sleep which
then will hurt how our peak week goes but

1011
00:50:41,488 --> 00:50:46,939
in reality it's not that big a deal it's
really not that's kind of

1012
00:50:47,246 --> 00:50:51,106
I mean, I think it's just, I mean, the
thought of it for some people is like,

1013
00:50:51,106 --> 00:50:51,956
that's just gross.

1014
00:50:51,956 --> 00:50:55,286
I don't want to have to deal with that,
but there's not a lot we can do and that's

1015
00:50:55,286 --> 00:50:56,286
the human body.

1016
00:50:56,286 --> 00:51:01,566
So, I mean, Midol Plus is a wonderful
thing.

1017
00:51:01,566 --> 00:51:06,126
I take it even when I don't have my
period, it's like wonderful for peak week.

1018
00:51:06,126 --> 00:51:12,026
And it just, it helps, you know, with
inflammation and bloating and all of that.

1019
00:51:12,026 --> 00:51:13,786
But I also think too, like,

1020
00:51:13,786 --> 00:51:19,766
for me personally, my periods, if they're
still present in prep, and they have been

1021
00:51:19,766 --> 00:51:21,166
as I've gotten older, which is so weird.

1022
00:51:21,166 --> 00:51:24,816
Like when I was younger, maybe just
because my hormones were different then,

1023
00:51:24,816 --> 00:51:26,986
like I would always lose my cycle.

1024
00:51:26,986 --> 00:51:31,086
Like I'd be like, I'm shredded, no period,
you know?

1025
00:51:31,086 --> 00:51:35,946
But like as I've gotten older and I'm more
shredded now than I was back then, I still

1026
00:51:35,946 --> 00:51:36,216
have it.

1027
00:51:36,216 --> 00:51:38,206
I'm like, this seems completely unfair.

1028
00:51:38,586 --> 00:51:41,946
But they're much lighter, they're shorter.

1029
00:51:41,946 --> 00:51:46,706
They're a little bit infrequent,
unpredictable, but they're not as

1030
00:51:46,706 --> 00:51:47,886
bothersome.

1031
00:51:47,946 --> 00:51:51,266
So the might all does the trick and then I
just don't, I try not to think about it.

1032
00:51:51,266 --> 00:51:56,506
And other than if you have PMS, that's not
great to be experiencing the raging bitch

1033
00:51:56,506 --> 00:52:00,086
syndrome going into peak week, but it'll
be okay.

1034
00:52:00,086 --> 00:52:03,906
You're not gonna be the very first person
in the entire world that's had their

1035
00:52:03,906 --> 00:52:04,736
period on show day.

1036
00:52:04,736 --> 00:52:09,506
I think Jen Dory had it at the Olympia and
it's just.

1037
00:52:09,506 --> 00:52:12,246
you can kind of take it as a good sign
too, because it means your hormones are

1038
00:52:12,246 --> 00:52:13,126
regulating properly.

1039
00:52:13,126 --> 00:52:18,346
I mean, if you think about it, so you can
be like, well, like even, it is even

1040
00:52:18,346 --> 00:52:23,246
during peak week, so it's like a good
thing to have.

1041
00:52:23,606 --> 00:52:24,398
Mm -hmm.

1042
00:52:24,398 --> 00:52:25,158
around your period.

1043
00:52:25,158 --> 00:52:25,858
You can't.

1044
00:52:25,858 --> 00:52:28,338
Like you just gotta roll with it, girl.

1045
00:52:28,338 --> 00:52:30,175
Just it is what it is.

1046
00:52:30,262 --> 00:52:35,802
I know, I don't know if you have this
question often, I see it often and I'm

1047
00:52:35,802 --> 00:52:38,522
actually surprised it circulates as often
as it does.

1048
00:52:38,522 --> 00:52:43,810
Being on birth control and being, and
prepping, like.

1049
00:52:43,810 --> 00:52:48,330
I know a lot of women that are on a lot of
different type of medication for different

1050
00:52:48,330 --> 00:52:48,530
things.

1051
00:52:48,530 --> 00:52:49,770
You can still prep.

1052
00:52:49,770 --> 00:52:51,870
You can still prep.

1053
00:52:52,689 --> 00:52:54,190
You will be fine.

1054
00:52:54,310 --> 00:52:59,650
I'm actually very surprised that that gets
asked as often as it does, but...

1055
00:52:59,650 --> 00:53:04,470
I know people, I've met people that have,
you know, that have had kidney issues,

1056
00:53:04,470 --> 00:53:08,150
liver issues, they have heart issues, and
they're on all different types of

1057
00:53:08,150 --> 00:53:10,970
medication that affects their hormones.

1058
00:53:10,970 --> 00:53:15,030
And they, you can still prep, and you can
still, and you'll still go through peak

1059
00:53:15,030 --> 00:53:16,340
week, and you can still be shredded.

1060
00:53:16,340 --> 00:53:19,910
You can still go through all of that, even
if you're on birth control.

1061
00:53:20,442 --> 00:53:23,102
Yeah, I think it's just person to person.

1062
00:53:23,102 --> 00:53:27,662
Everyone's a little bit different and
obviously their type of birth control is

1063
00:53:27,662 --> 00:53:29,042
gonna be different.

1064
00:53:29,162 --> 00:53:35,562
I just think, I don't wanna get too much
into this topic, but I'm not an advocate

1065
00:53:35,562 --> 00:53:42,122
for birth control just because it's,
there's a lot about that I don't wanna get

1066
00:53:42,122 --> 00:53:49,210
into, but I just think that it's a hormone
and long -term, you don't,

1067
00:53:49,210 --> 00:53:52,030
You don't know the impact of having that
in your body.

1068
00:53:52,030 --> 00:53:56,170
And like now we're really, this is like
the second life cycle of women that have

1069
00:53:56,170 --> 00:53:59,090
been on birth control because it came out
in the sixties.

1070
00:53:59,090 --> 00:54:04,350
And so we're, we're just seeing a lot of
different cancers and things.

1071
00:54:04,610 --> 00:54:06,170
So not that we can blame it on birth
control.

1072
00:54:06,170 --> 00:54:11,430
It is still being studied, but you know, I
think that there, there's a lot of ways

1073
00:54:11,430 --> 00:54:13,060
and I'm talking about oral contraceptives.

1074
00:54:13,060 --> 00:54:15,050
I'm talking about taking like the pill.

1075
00:54:15,050 --> 00:54:18,223
You know, there's, there's other things.

1076
00:54:18,902 --> 00:54:20,132
to as well.

1077
00:54:20,132 --> 00:54:25,002
I mean, an IUD is, they still have a
hormonal one, but that's gonna be a little

1078
00:54:25,002 --> 00:54:30,502
bit better for competitors because it's
not the monthly pill.

1079
00:54:30,722 --> 00:54:35,861
Because I went on the pill when I was in
college and I gained 15 pounds

1080
00:54:35,861 --> 00:54:36,722
immediately.

1081
00:54:36,722 --> 00:54:40,202
I was like, my body does not like this at
all.

1082
00:54:40,202 --> 00:54:42,622
And so I stopped and never took it again.

1083
00:54:42,622 --> 00:54:45,452
But some people respond really well to it
and they don't have any issues.

1084
00:54:45,452 --> 00:54:48,987
Some people have the next plenum in their
arm or whatever it might be.

1085
00:54:48,987 --> 00:54:53,247
But I just think, you know, obviously
don't throw caution in the wind and not

1086
00:54:53,247 --> 00:54:57,887
have any birth control methods, but I
think, you know, oral birth control is

1087
00:54:57,887 --> 00:55:04,007
just, you know, not, not, you can take it
and prep and get lean, but I think it does

1088
00:55:04,007 --> 00:55:06,187
pose a bit of a challenge for some people.

1089
00:55:06,187 --> 00:55:09,947
I have seen some people sort of struggle
to get that like last little bit of

1090
00:55:09,947 --> 00:55:12,318
conditioning just because of the hormones.

1091
00:55:12,610 --> 00:55:15,834
Yeah, my first prep ahead.

1092
00:55:16,290 --> 00:55:22,070
I was on, yeah, I had an IUD, had it taken
out, and then I was on regular the birth

1093
00:55:22,070 --> 00:55:26,520
control pill, and I just thought I had
adult acne.

1094
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,900
Like, I had acne so bad.

1095
00:55:28,900 --> 00:55:31,130
I prepped, my prep was fine.

1096
00:55:31,130 --> 00:55:34,150
I lost my cycle, like, immediately.

1097
00:55:34,150 --> 00:55:38,210
I just, you chalk it up to diet, exercise,
birth control.

1098
00:55:38,210 --> 00:55:42,090
But it took a minute for it to come back,
and my acne, I had like cheekbone to

1099
00:55:42,090 --> 00:55:43,010
cheekbone acne.

1100
00:55:43,010 --> 00:55:46,276
Like, it like literally, from like my
cheekbone down through my chin to my.

1101
00:55:46,276 --> 00:55:50,406
other cheekbone and I just was like, it's
adult acne and it is what it is.

1102
00:55:50,406 --> 00:55:55,116
But like after I was done for the show,
after I was done prepping and I took time

1103
00:55:55,116 --> 00:55:57,496
off and I was still on birth control, I
was like, this is painful.

1104
00:55:57,496 --> 00:56:02,356
Like I had painful acne and I think it was
somebody that was like, it's my, it's your

1105
00:56:02,356 --> 00:56:02,816
hormones.

1106
00:56:02,816 --> 00:56:05,976
And this was back in like 2000, I don't
know, 17.

1107
00:56:05,976 --> 00:56:08,226
And someone was like, it's your hormones.

1108
00:56:08,226 --> 00:56:09,916
I'm like, I never thought of that.

1109
00:56:09,916 --> 00:56:16,272
And then I ended up stopping birth control
and the inflammation went away, but I had

1110
00:56:16,272 --> 00:56:18,452
bad scarring I had to get that dealt with.

1111
00:56:18,452 --> 00:56:20,872
But yeah, it was birth control acne.

1112
00:56:20,872 --> 00:56:22,432
It was not adult acne.

1113
00:56:22,432 --> 00:56:24,752
It was painful too.

1114
00:56:24,752 --> 00:56:27,422
So yeah, I'm kind of in the same boat with
you.

1115
00:56:27,422 --> 00:56:29,482
I don't really recommend it, but you gotta
do what you gotta do.

1116
00:56:29,482 --> 00:56:30,972
Everybody's different.

1117
00:56:31,612 --> 00:56:32,392
So.

1118
00:56:34,452 --> 00:56:34,831
Mm -hmm.

1119
00:56:34,831 --> 00:56:38,771
topic and I don't want to dive into it
because I'm not an expert and I don't want

1120
00:56:38,771 --> 00:56:41,971
to, you know, give advice that's bad
advice either.

1121
00:56:41,971 --> 00:56:49,131
But you know, I just, you know, yeah,
yeah.

1122
00:56:49,431 --> 00:56:55,091
Well, and I have daughters and so I think
if my daughters are, you know, get older,

1123
00:56:55,091 --> 00:56:58,401
like what is the decision that I would
encourage them to make?

1124
00:56:58,401 --> 00:56:59,483
And I would not.

1125
00:56:59,483 --> 00:57:01,903
encourage them to take birth control.

1126
00:57:01,923 --> 00:57:04,043
So that's just, cause that's how I feel
about it.

1127
00:57:04,043 --> 00:57:08,743
And it's personal and you know, people
will tell me I'm wrong and that's totally

1128
00:57:08,743 --> 00:57:11,763
fine, but that's just the, that's how I
feel about it.

1129
00:57:11,763 --> 00:57:17,143
But yeah, I think in general, and it'd be
great to have a hormone specialist come

1130
00:57:17,143 --> 00:57:18,603
on, cause it is a hot topic.

1131
00:57:18,603 --> 00:57:22,093
Somebody asked me the other day about
blood work and you know, who we recommend,

1132
00:57:22,093 --> 00:57:24,643
cause that's, you know, becoming more
common.

1133
00:57:24,891 --> 00:57:27,111
people have more questions about all that
stuff.

1134
00:57:27,111 --> 00:57:32,601
So if anyone has any recommendations for a
hormone specialist that we could bring on,

1135
00:57:32,601 --> 00:57:38,171
that would be, especially if they're
fitness minded, because that would be

1136
00:57:38,171 --> 00:57:38,874
helpful.

1137
00:57:38,874 --> 00:57:43,574
If there's anybody you guys think of,
yeah, just shoot us a message, DM us on

1138
00:57:43,574 --> 00:57:45,294
Instagram, let us know.

1139
00:57:45,294 --> 00:57:51,434
Of course, yeah, or they can give it
detailed too.

1140
00:57:53,013 --> 00:57:59,014
Well, we kind of covered a lot of
different topics and talked about a few.

1141
00:57:59,854 --> 00:58:01,554
my gosh, stop.

1142
00:58:01,554 --> 00:58:04,239
Well, you did it for 58 minutes.

1143
00:58:04,239 --> 00:58:06,149
my God, it's been so bad this week.

1144
00:58:06,149 --> 00:58:09,099
And also we have a team show this weekend.

1145
00:58:09,179 --> 00:58:12,839
So like, you know, just it's life is just
busy.

1146
00:58:12,839 --> 00:58:17,019
You know, that should have been my hack
for hunger in the beginning of the episode

1147
00:58:17,019 --> 00:58:19,029
is just stay so busy.

1148
00:58:19,029 --> 00:58:23,819
You forget to eat, you know, but for real,
like I'm so busy that I don't really think

1149
00:58:23,819 --> 00:58:24,259
about food.

1150
00:58:24,259 --> 00:58:27,131
I'm busy in the evenings too, which is
like kind of like.

1151
00:58:27,131 --> 00:58:31,431
snack attack time for a lot of people and
I'm usually like in the car like in a

1152
00:58:31,431 --> 00:58:34,431
parking lot waiting for a kid to come out
of practice.

1153
00:58:34,731 --> 00:58:34,922
So

1154
00:58:34,922 --> 00:58:36,302
what happened to me this weekend.

1155
00:58:36,302 --> 00:58:38,962
That's why I got such bad sleep Sunday
night.

1156
00:58:38,962 --> 00:58:42,422
And it was like, I had such a great
weekend, but it was, it was running around

1157
00:58:42,422 --> 00:58:43,942
so much and being so busy.

1158
00:58:43,942 --> 00:58:48,442
I didn't eat like my last meals until
super late and it just messed with so much

1159
00:58:48,442 --> 00:58:48,801
stuff.

1160
00:58:48,801 --> 00:58:50,692
So like, yeah, stay busy.

1161
00:58:50,692 --> 00:58:53,187
And then life goes by really fast.

1162
00:58:53,187 --> 00:58:53,847
does.

1163
00:58:53,847 --> 00:58:57,687
You forget, forget and all of a sudden
poof you're three and a half weeks out.

1164
00:58:58,607 --> 00:58:59,847
my God.

1165
00:58:59,847 --> 00:59:00,917
I'm so excited.

1166
00:59:00,917 --> 00:59:03,207
I wish I was going to be at your show with
you though.

1167
00:59:03,207 --> 00:59:04,307
I want to.

1168
00:59:04,918 --> 00:59:06,658
could watch your live stream.

1169
00:59:07,259 --> 00:59:10,419
You might be able to because it's not till
three o 'clock.

1170
00:59:11,716 --> 00:59:13,286
that's right.

1171
00:59:13,286 --> 00:59:14,546
I'll have to look into that.

1172
00:59:14,546 --> 00:59:16,586
I didn't think of that.

1173
00:59:16,626 --> 00:59:16,946
-huh.

1174
00:59:16,946 --> 00:59:20,506
like prejudging that rolls right into
finals starting at 3 p So I'm really

1175
00:59:20,506 --> 00:59:25,666
excited about that actually, because I can
like get up and then if I need to train a

1176
00:59:25,666 --> 00:59:29,246
little bit, sometimes I need weights on
show day just to get a good pump and like

1177
00:59:29,246 --> 00:59:30,416
move some of the carbs through.

1178
00:59:30,416 --> 00:59:33,686
But I've never done a peak week with James
before, so I'm not sure what his

1179
00:59:33,686 --> 00:59:35,116
recommendations will be yet.

1180
00:59:35,116 --> 00:59:38,786
But it's just nice to have that time
because there's nothing worse than being

1181
00:59:38,786 --> 00:59:39,418
like.

1182
00:59:39,418 --> 00:59:43,658
It's show day and you have like a 2 a
makeup time and like 4 a spray tan and

1183
00:59:43,658 --> 00:59:46,178
then you and you just sit there.

1184
00:59:46,558 --> 00:59:51,538
Yeah, it's just and I also like I don't
have any trouble getting up early in the

1185
00:59:51,538 --> 00:59:55,958
morning, but if I know I have to get up
early, I like keep looking at my alarm and

1186
00:59:55,958 --> 00:59:57,318
I like I don't sleep great.

1187
00:59:57,318 --> 00:59:59,218
So so I'm really excited about that
format.

1188
00:59:59,218 --> 01:00:00,348
I think that's pretty bomb.

1189
01:00:00,348 --> 01:00:02,298
I'm excited about that.

1190
01:00:02,298 --> 01:00:03,558
So.

1191
01:00:04,158 --> 01:00:04,946
Yeah.

1192
01:00:04,946 --> 01:00:10,126
guys, well thank you so much for listening
and I really, we both I'm sure, hope that

1193
01:00:10,126 --> 01:00:13,666
you guys took some information away from
this and we hope this helps you through

1194
01:00:13,666 --> 01:00:18,686
your prep or even as a lifestyle client,
this helps you just on a lot of different

1195
01:00:18,686 --> 01:00:19,046
things.

1196
01:00:19,046 --> 01:00:22,866
Whether it's finding a coach or shrinking
your waist or just feeling better about

1197
01:00:22,866 --> 01:00:24,386
having issues with stacking.

1198
01:00:24,386 --> 01:00:27,386
It's completely normal, it happens and how
to kind of combat them.

1199
01:00:27,386 --> 01:00:31,006
But if you guys need any help or have any
questions, Jillian and I are always

1200
01:00:31,006 --> 01:00:31,646
available.

1201
01:00:31,646 --> 01:00:35,000
We have our Instagrams, Facebook,

1202
01:00:35,292 --> 01:00:39,552
After Babies podcast has its own
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1203
01:00:39,552 --> 01:00:41,612
ways to reach us.

1204
01:00:42,394 --> 01:00:46,654
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1205
01:00:46,654 --> 01:00:50,794
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1206
01:00:50,794 --> 01:00:53,977
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1207
01:00:54,210 --> 01:00:56,330
Bye guys!