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Welcome to Digication
Scholars Conversations.

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I'm your host, Kelly Driscoll.

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In this episode, you'll hear my
conversation with Andres Parres a

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student at the University of LaVerne.

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Welcome to Digication
Scholars Conversations.

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I'm your host, Kelly Driscoll,
and today I'm very excited

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to introduce Andres Perez.

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He is a current student at
the University of LaVerne.

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Uh, where he is majoring in
psychology with a Pre-Med track.

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Welcome Andres.

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Hi.

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Thank you for having me.

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Um, yeah.

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So my, my name is Andres.

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It's currently my last year
at the University of Louverne.

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I'll be done with all my
classes in the summer.

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Not too sure when I'm
going to be graduating.

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It's either in the spring or in the fall.

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I have to clarify with my advisor.

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Um, but, uh, yeah, and, uh,
oof, what was I going to say?

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Oh no, I blanked.

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On the spot.

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It's fine.

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Thank you so much.

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It's very exciting that you're
getting Near to the end of your time

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there, and as part of your experience
there, uh, for our listeners, I

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was able to, uh, learn a little bit
about Andres before our conversation

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today from his wonderful ePortfolio.

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And uh, for those that have been
listening to other conversations,

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I did have a chance to talk to one
of his professors, Benjamin Jenkins

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on Digication Scholars as well.

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And we had such a lovely conversation
about how he uses ePortfolios

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in his courses that I wanted the
opportunity to speak to one of his.

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Past students as well.

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So, um, Andres, I know in the
portfolio that you created, it has,

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uh, a title in it that's called
the LaVerne Experience ePortfolio.

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Could you tell us a little
bit about what that is?

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Yeah, so the LaVerne Experience, uh,
so basically it's a requirement from

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the school in order for us to graduate
and it incorporates all the student,

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uh, the values of the university, so
community engagement, uh, diversity,

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inclusion, um, lifelong learning, and
there's one more, but I forgot what it is.

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But, um, yeah, so we had to incorporate
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how the values has affected us over the
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And so I highlighted three
key, uh, values that diversity,

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inclusion, community engagement, and
lifelong learning in my portfolio.

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So then I explained in my portfolio.

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Each value of what it meant to me and
like how it's affected me and what

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I'm going to take from those values
and apply it to my life in the future

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after I graduate from Little Rock.

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Nice.

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So, when you started creating this
ePortfolio, was there a specific

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course that you were taking that kind
of prompted you to start building it?

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Um, well, it was our Honors Colloquium
II class that Professor Jenkins taught.

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Um, it's basically, it's a part of
our librarian experience requirement.

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Um, not everyone takes Honors Colloquium,
it's only for the honors program.

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But, uh, usually the class, like, people
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to, like, go out in the community and,
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students at a public school or volunteer
at a, I think at a food shelter.

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But, uh, for our class, uh, Professor
Jenkins wanted to focus on giving

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back to the community and being a,
giving, adding to the LaVerne history.

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So, um, at, uh, at our university we
have a, uh, Uh, ooh, what's it called?

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Uh, the history and then
he wanted us to add to it.

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So we used our portfolios to add to it.

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Oh, what's it called?

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Oh, no.

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Are you speaking about
the university archive?

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Yeah, the archives.

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Yes.

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Thank you for saving me.

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Yeah, the archives.

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He wanted us to add to the archives and,
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making us have a history so when future
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And see it.

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And then he also, in the class, he wanted
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Um, and so yeah, we used the archives
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like, and apply it to how much it's
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the university's history to present day.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So what was that experience like for you?

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I know you, uh, in some of the
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did in the e-portfolio were.

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Kind of sharing that when you first
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you were struggling a little bit to
think about, you know, your kind of

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place in the institution's history or
how you were doing really mattered.

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You know, you were going
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Going home, you know, how does this
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So what was the experience
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the ePortfolio and starting to
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Well, Professor Jenkins gave us, gave
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have to make a portfolio, but it's
up to you what you put in there.

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Like he, he gave us instructions,
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to follow, like a prompt.

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It was kind of just like,
this is your project.

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You do what you want with
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Cause usually I like instructions
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So I was, I was able to be a little
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And I was able to like take different
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But, um, Yeah, it was difficult because
honestly, I'm not involved in any

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sports clubs, anything at the school.

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I literally just go to class, drive home,
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And so it was difficult to see how
I've impacted the community in any

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way, because like, you know, if you're
not really there, then how can you?

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Impact the community.

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So I had to like, uh, look at my
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community instead of just the school.

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I started to expand my horizons
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um, to answer those questions.

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Yeah.

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So what kind of discoveries
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Well, upon, upon looking, reflecting
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out that I actually, like, in fall,
I'm engaged with the community a lot.

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Um, at that time, you know, I
have a, I have a podcast called,

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uh, 'Get In' football podcast.

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It's changed.

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The name has changed since the portfolio.

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So it's outdated on the portfolio, but,
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lot with the community, every video we
make, you know, sometimes it doesn't get

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a lot of views, but you know, so there's
always someone to engage with someone that

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watches and that engages with our video.

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And, uh, recently we had a video, um,
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national team, and we had a lot of people
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sharing their thoughts and opinions,
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because we had no idea we could reach
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an engagement with another country,
so it was really cool to see that

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engagement with them, and then, uh, and
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And I was thinking, I was like,
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it's the world's biggest sport.

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Um, you know, it's, uh, everybody loves
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And then I was, I'd recently joined a semi
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the ePortfolio and two of my teammates
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And I never really encountered
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specifically from those countries.

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So it was really cool to talk with
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the field and outside of the, Field.

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And yeah, it was just something
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And then the lifelong learning, that
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go in the classroom and it was like
reflect on classes I've had in the

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past, because usually for me in college,
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really think about it too much unless
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So it was kind of like one of those
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go back and think about all these
other honors classes I've taken, all

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these other psych classes I've taken.

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And then I was able to use that.

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To draw from my ePortfolio, and then I
use a couple of examples from like papers,

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and I think I used a presentation I used
in one of my favorite classes I've had

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to incorporate it into my ePortfolio.

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Yeah.

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How did you make decisions about
what you wanted to include?

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And it looks like in some of the
other 'LaVerne Experience', uh,

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portfolios that I've seen, there's
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Did you modify that structure at
all or did you kind of use what

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was available within the template
but then filled it in with yours?

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Specific kinds of projects.

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And how did you decide what you
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Yeah.

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Um, well he gave, uh, Professor Jenkins
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up so it didn't look like a chaotic mess
of material just chucked into a portfolio.

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Um, but I wanted to tell a story with
everything I did, uh, to an extent.

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So like for my essays that I had
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I exactly called that section.

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I wanted to tell a story of my
progression through, uh, college so far.

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Like my writing style.

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My, uh, presentation style, because
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I'm sure my high school teachers
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high school classes, um, I always
got like B pluses on all my essays.

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I rarely got any, any A's and, you know,
I, I wanted to show that I've grown as a

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writer, um, and show that I've improved
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made sure I incorporate a research paper
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time I've never written a research paper,
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cause I spent a lot of time working on it.

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And I wanted to show that and then
show a reflection essay that I

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had as well in another class that
challenged me to think outside the

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box again from Professor Jensen.

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At the time, you, uh, you, uh, Professor
Jensen was a professor at all freshman

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year and he had like all of these essays
all the time that were like really

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like made you think outside the box
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It was very frustrating, but you had
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And, and so, yeah, so I incorporated
one of his essays and then I just.

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Try to tell a story with everything
that I did and try and like reflect,

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put my own spin on it, um, too,
because I try to show my personality

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a little bit through the presentation.

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Like why the reason why I incorporated,
uh, incorporated presentation into that

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section for the documents was because,
uh, it was my favorite class, but also

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it's my favorite thing I've worked on so
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an interpersonal communications class,
uh, and so the class was basically.

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About, um, uh, relationships
and how they work.

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And I thought it was really cool
because it was applicable to my life.

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And you can, I, I, what I've learned, I've
used in my life and I can see about it.

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Uh, see what it's about.

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And, um, and I was able to, in
the presentation, I was able to

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analyze my favorite movie and the
relationship between the two characters.

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And then, so I was really proud of that.

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So I had to incorporate that.

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So yeah, a lot of everything that's
in there is a story of myself.

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In a way that I try to make a story in
throughout my life, uh, in each section.

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So, that was the idea behind it.

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Nice.

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And for you, was this kind of, um, process
of personal storytelling or reflecting

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on your experiences something that you
had done before you used the ePortfolio?

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Or was this a new, uh, A new kind
of practice or process for you?

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It was definitely a new practice.

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Um, because I didn't, I didn't really
reflect on my life in that way and try and

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incorporate the values of the university
that we had, uh, to look at upon.

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So it made me reflect on my life
because I never really done that before.

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I usually just gone, gone
with the flow and I was like,

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all right, this happens next.

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And this happens for
a reason and all that.

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And, um, Yeah, and I just had to really
reflect, but I enjoyed it because it

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made me think outside the box though.

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Um, especially with, uh, we had
to do interviews and I tried to

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get, like, a theme going with the
interviews because I just didn't want

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to interview, like, random people.

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Um, and, uh, like, uh, so I was like,
let's interview someone from the

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past of the university and then let's
interview someone in the present.

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So I grabbed one of my friends that I've
known literally the first day of college.

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I met her on the first day.

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And then I grabbed my mom who went to
the university, thankfully, so thank

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you, mom, for going to that university.

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Aww, that's wonderful.

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I was able to reflect, I was able
to compare and contrast the two,

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so I was just focused on telling a
story in every aspect that I could.

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Yeah, so I'm curious, between their two
different perspectives, were there a

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lot of parallels in their experience.

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Going to the same university, even though
they were there at different times.

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Um, I would say there's, there's
some parallels, both very hard

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driven women on both sides.

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Um, but it, my mom always emphasized
that the campus during her time was so

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much smaller than the campus it is now.

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Because a lot of it was never built,
uh, when she went there, and, and

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then now it's a lot bigger, obviously.

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But, um, yeah, I mean, it kind of
reflected the same way, because,

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uh, you know, My friend, Sh...

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She's still in college, but my
mom's gone on to graduate school

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and got her PhD and stuff.

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So, like, uh, she's a lot more
developed in the educational side.

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And my friend's still
starting out in that sense.

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And so, um, it was similar in the sense of
what they got from the university so far.

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But it, um, but my mom was able to apply
more to what she learned from LaVerne.

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I was able to use it outside of
LaVerne for further education.

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Um, but my friend hasn't, is still
there, but she thinks that it's gonna

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help her, uh, long, later down the road.

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Nice.

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And I know in my conversation, uh,
with your, um, professor, Professor

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Jenkins, he was speaking a bit
about the university archives.

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And how important it is for students
to be able to share their stories and

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experiences in the same way that you're
able to refer to the archives and learn

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about the institution's history and what
life was like for students then and what

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the kind of,  Learning outcomes were
at that time to serve you today, that

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your experiences and stories can have
value to future generation and kind of

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thinking about the ePortfolio as sort of
a time capsule, sort of your legacy that

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you're leaving behind for other students.

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And was that something that you kind of
had in mind as you were creating these

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stories or who are you thinking about as
the, the audience for your ePortfolio?

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Well, I know obviously professor
Jenkins was the main audience.

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Um, also, you know, I know he works,
um, as an archivist at the school.

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Um, but yeah, I didn't really
have like a set audience in mind.

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I knew that it's possible for future,
uh, students to see my portfolio.

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But it's not like a guarantee, right?

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Um, but I just wanted to, I took
the matter serious and I wanted to

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ensure that I was able to reflect
and my portfolio showed the story of

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my time at LaVerne and, um, I didn't
have like a set audience in mind.

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I just want to be able to show my
personality, but also show my time

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at LaVerne and hopefully people can
learn from it or people can see.

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What it was like back then.

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And so, yeah, my, my, I didn't
have like a set audience in mind.

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And I was curious too.

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So you, it sounds like you added materials
from a number of different courses

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that you've taken over your time there.

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And as you were kind of going through
this process of curating and making

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decisions about what you wanted to
include, had you seen any of your own

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kind of growth or transformations as you
had kind of moved through the curriculum

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there from one course to the next,
how your skills may have developed.

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I think thinking outside the box is
probably the best thing because, you

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know, usually in high, in high school,
you would be like, here's a prompt,

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write about it, you know, or you have
to write a certain way, especially in

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those AP courses, you have to write a
certain way in order to get the grade.

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So you're very limited
on what you could do.

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Um, and, and when I got to the University
of LaVerne, it was kind of interesting.

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Uh, the writing professor I had
freshman year was, I mentioned

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before, was Professor Jensen.

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He always, like, encouraged to think
outside the box, and he gave us prompts,

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but the thing was, is I remember
at the time I was always frustrated

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every time he gave us an essay to
write about, was that he never, like,

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was super specific on what to write.

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Like, we would have, like, some, like,
reading, we, like, a reading we had to

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do, or, like, a book we read, and then
we'd have to write about it, but he

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kind of gave us the leeway to kind of
write about what we wanted to write.

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But, um, yeah, I think my writing
style in that sense of thinking outside

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the box improved, but also through
writing so many essays and papers, um,

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my overall writing just got better.

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I'd stop making, I stopped speaking
like, don't slang English, you know, uh,

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I, I gotta like, I started like, I've
narrowed down the typos and I've started

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speaking like proper English when writing
instead of just like using like slang

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that you should never use in a paper
and I would always be a culprit of that.

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And then I'd be like, Wait a
minute, I gotta go back, because

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I can't say that, that's not,
that's not how you write a paper.

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Um, but also um, I think another thing,
uh, that has, uh, that has improved

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over time was um, listening to others
as well, because usually I was kind of

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like, narrow minded in that sense, but
I think through all the classes I've

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taken, it's, I've, I've learned that
it's important to also, like, listen

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to everybody and just hear them out.

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Um, because I've taken a lot of philosophy
classes because of the honors program

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and everyone, and we've learned about
so many different cultures, cultures

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I've, like, never even thought about.

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And, but it's always important to
incorporate those, uh, to not incorporate

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them, but listen to them and see how
they can be even incorporated in your

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life or how similar they are to certain
values that you have in your life.

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And just be able to compare and contrast.

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So those are the two
things I've learned so far.

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Nice.

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Uh, and it's great to hear that it
sounds like some of the assignments that

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you were given that kind of pushed you
outside of your comfort zone and may

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have initially challenged you and made
you feel a bit frustrated or some of the

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things that you're most proud of today.

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And where you've seen some of
your, um, biggest growth happen.

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So, I know many educators are,
are hoping to kind of push their

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students to the next level.

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So, um, it sounds like you've had some
really good experiences and teachers

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there at your, your time at LeBarn.

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Um, and I was curious for you, you
mentioned that you, uh, have a love

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for soccer and that it's something
that you do, uh, outside of your,

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uh, time at the, at the school.

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It's something that you've included
as part of your extracurriculars

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within your portfolio.

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Um, when did you make the
decision to include that?

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What kind of led you to want to
share that, that aspect of yourself?

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Well, soccer's been a massive part of
my life and it's helped me be the person

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I am today through, um, trials and
tribulations, uh, but I, I started when

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I was 12, uh, and actually a couple of
days ago, it was my eighth anniversary

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of playing on the 17th of August.

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I saw it on my, um, Instagram.

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My mom showed me one for Facebook,
but what I Aw, congratulations!

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Oh, Yeah, so I was, so yeah, it's been
eight years since I started playing,

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and it's always been a big part of my
life for, um, because you know, uh,

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this is personal, but I will share it.

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Uh, so I was diagnosed with a, uh,
blood disorder, hemophilia A, so I

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don't, I can't clot, I don't have
factor VIII, so I can't clot blood.

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Um.

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So, I was never cleared to play
any sports when I was a kid.

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I couldn't play football,
soccer, tennis, nothing.

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Um, and uh, you know, thankfully, and
luckily, I was blessed with a great

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medical team at Kaiser Permanente.

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Shout out Kaiser Permanente in that sense.

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Um, and I was blessed with a great
team who, when I turned 12, actually

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approved of me playing, but also,
uh, the medication got a lot better

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as well, and so I was able to play.

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And so, yeah, it's always been a
big part of, uh, part of my life.

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Before the age of 12, I always
remember watching soccer with

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my grandpa and, uh, my dad.

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And it was always the
Mexican National Team.

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We, um, big supporters of the
Mexican National Team, because my

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grandfather, he was from Mexico.

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And he, he actually got me into
soccer, because I remember one time

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I was like, probably like five, and
he was like, he was watching Chivas,

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he loved Chivas, and I was a kid.

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I had no idea.

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I didn't really care too much.

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And I was like, Hey, can
we change the channel?

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I don't want to watch this.

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And he got mad at me.

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And he was like, change the channel.

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What do you mean change the channel?

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And then he got mad at me.

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So I had to leave the room.

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And I was like, why is he so mad at me?

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I just asked him to change the channel.

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I didn't get it until recently, uh,
when I started, like, when I was

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around 12 and really got into soccer,
playing soccer, watching soccer, that I

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understood what it meant, um, to be so
passionate about something that you love.

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And soccer is something that I'm very
passionate about and that I love.

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And, uh, and so I thank him for that.

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Uh, so yeah, it was just a
big, big part of my life.

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I've, you know, had a lot of ups and downs
with soccer, uh, Actually, I had a year

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break after senior year of high school.

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I got injured with a knee injury, took
a year break and then didn't get back

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to it until I was making this portfolio
literally the week and before I had to

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turn in my portfolio, I made my semi
professional debut and that was my first

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game back in over like a year and a half.

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So it was just like, everything
was coming together at the

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right time as I was making it.

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But like, during that year gap, it
never left, uh, my passion for soccer.

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And during that time was when I made
podcast, was filled in that soccer

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gap or that I had, uh, Um, but it was
never, never really felt the same.

390
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Like I love making that podcast, but it
playing is just a different experience

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for me is something that I prefer to do.

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But, um, yeah, so now I'm doing both and
I just love what I'm doing at the moment.

393
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Ah, that's such an incredible story.

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And I'm so glad to hear that even though
there were so many limitations placed on

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you as a child, that you've been able to.

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You know, build this love for the sport
and have this wonderful opportunity

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to play and have come so far.

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That's really remarkable
in just eight years time.

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Right.

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Yeah.

401
00:23:20,894 --> 00:23:27,415
And, um, I love to hear that it's rooted
in family and, uh, you know, of course

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00:23:27,445 --> 00:23:29,795
your grandfather wanted to share his.

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Joy and passion for the sport with you and
what a wonderful way to kind of carry on.

404
00:23:37,050 --> 00:23:41,930
Your family's kind of history
and joy with the sport also.

405
00:23:42,420 --> 00:23:46,760
Um, so you mentioned you started
the podcast, if I got this correct,

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and you started that when you
needed to take that kind of one

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00:23:50,250 --> 00:23:52,099
year break from the sport, correct?

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00:23:52,460 --> 00:23:52,880
Yeah.

409
00:23:52,969 --> 00:23:56,314
So There's going to be
a backstory behind this.

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00:23:56,314 --> 00:24:02,084
So actually, the podcast I have today
isn't the original podcast that I had.

411
00:24:03,084 --> 00:24:05,225
So my friend Elijah, he
is a part of my podcast.

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00:24:05,245 --> 00:24:06,784
I went to high school
with him for four years.

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00:24:06,794 --> 00:24:09,294
So me and him are still good friends
because we still have podcasts together.

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00:24:09,714 --> 00:24:13,355
But senior year of high school, we
actually had another podcast called

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Everything in Between the Sticks.

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00:24:15,665 --> 00:24:17,705
And it was an idea we had just for fun.

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00:24:18,045 --> 00:24:21,085
You know, we only post on Spotify
and it was just kind of like for

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laughs and giggles and it didn't
do well cause you know, you don't

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really post on Spotify unless you
have like an audience to follow.

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00:24:27,685 --> 00:24:27,925
It's good.

421
00:24:27,965 --> 00:24:30,844
It's hard to follow people on
Spotify that are starting out.

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00:24:30,855 --> 00:24:32,065
YouTube's the best way.

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00:24:32,665 --> 00:24:33,914
And you know, it didn't go anywhere.

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00:24:33,915 --> 00:24:34,995
We kind of forgot about it.

425
00:24:35,104 --> 00:24:37,525
Like we stopped filming and
we like just forgot about it.

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00:24:38,179 --> 00:24:39,750
And then he texted me.

427
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He was like, Hey, it's probably
like September of 2022.

428
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I think.

429
00:24:48,199 --> 00:24:48,339
Yeah.

430
00:24:48,339 --> 00:24:48,559
Yeah.

431
00:24:48,659 --> 00:24:50,539
Around like August, September ago.

432
00:24:51,259 --> 00:24:51,509
Yeah.

433
00:24:51,509 --> 00:24:54,080
So we're actually almost
reaching our year anniversary.

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So it'll be next month.

435
00:24:55,580 --> 00:25:00,930
Uh, and he was like, Hey, Uh, we have
some people in Sweden who watched our

436
00:25:00,940 --> 00:25:03,080
podcast, Everything in Between the Sticks.

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00:25:03,100 --> 00:25:04,170
And I was like, Sweden?

438
00:25:04,900 --> 00:25:06,010
And he was like, yeah.

439
00:25:06,010 --> 00:25:07,889
He was like, you want
to run it, run it back?

440
00:25:07,910 --> 00:25:09,040
And I was like, you know what?

441
00:25:09,510 --> 00:25:09,819
Sure.

442
00:25:09,819 --> 00:25:10,229
Why not?

443
00:25:10,230 --> 00:25:11,030
Let's run it back.

444
00:25:11,090 --> 00:25:14,319
And this time, uh, we incorporated
one of his friends is now

445
00:25:14,319 --> 00:25:15,580
one of my friends, Diego.

446
00:25:15,790 --> 00:25:17,919
So then it became a trio on the podcast.

447
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,740
And then so around September, I'm sure
I can probably find the exact day if

448
00:25:21,740 --> 00:25:22,970
you just look on the YouTube channel.

449
00:25:22,990 --> 00:25:23,290
Cause, yeah.

450
00:25:23,620 --> 00:25:24,690
Can see the when it's posted.

451
00:25:24,690 --> 00:25:26,509
I think it's like September 10th, I think.

452
00:25:26,990 --> 00:25:29,860
Yeah, we can include a link
to it in our show notes.

453
00:25:29,860 --> 00:25:31,169
Yeah.

454
00:25:31,449 --> 00:25:31,850
Okay.

455
00:25:31,850 --> 00:25:32,699
Yeah, that's fine.

456
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,279
It's on our greatest video.

457
00:25:34,279 --> 00:25:36,819
It's because it's a start,
it's a startup video and we

458
00:25:36,819 --> 00:25:38,249
had no idea what we were doing.

459
00:25:38,639 --> 00:25:43,379
Uh, and I was just like, we, we didn't
know how to flow because we were all,

460
00:25:43,459 --> 00:25:46,489
we were three guys, but we never knew
how to like how to properly have a

461
00:25:46,509 --> 00:25:48,460
flowing conversation that was engaging.

462
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,330
And so it was kind of like one of us would
speak and then another one would speak.

463
00:25:52,685 --> 00:25:56,924
And then we would wait and it just
never was like really flowing and

464
00:25:56,924 --> 00:25:59,485
we're like, Oh, who would watch this?

465
00:25:59,505 --> 00:26:02,975
And then slowly we picked up over
time, we picked up how to like

466
00:26:02,985 --> 00:26:07,254
actually have this huge, like dialogue
or like how to talk and like how

467
00:26:07,254 --> 00:26:08,734
to flow instead of just one of us.

468
00:26:09,990 --> 00:26:11,580
Uh, one at a time.

469
00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:15,070
And so, yeah, we've, we've, we've
picked up a few tricks here and there.

470
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,370
And, uh, we've grown a little bit since
we started a year ago, but, um, yeah.

471
00:26:19,370 --> 00:26:20,590
And then we had the World Cup.

472
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,940
We grew during the world cup
and then, uh, we actually did

473
00:26:23,969 --> 00:26:25,289
really well during the Gold Cup.

474
00:26:25,380 --> 00:26:27,979
That's where the Jamaican fans
came in the Jamaica video.

475
00:26:27,979 --> 00:26:30,990
That's our best video
actually with a 10 K.

476
00:26:31,580 --> 00:26:35,230
And then, uh, then we had a
tick talk with my team West Ham.

477
00:26:35,230 --> 00:26:36,290
They were playing in a final.

478
00:26:36,905 --> 00:26:38,585
And that went to 18k.

479
00:26:38,585 --> 00:26:40,105
That was our best TikTok ever.

480
00:26:40,485 --> 00:26:44,844
And it was just literally a video of me
reacting to us scoring the winning goal.

481
00:26:45,265 --> 00:26:45,884
And that was it.

482
00:26:45,895 --> 00:26:46,524
That was the video.

483
00:26:46,524 --> 00:26:50,245
But it was really like a
sentimental video to me.

484
00:26:50,245 --> 00:26:52,684
Cause my little brother's in
the background of the video.

485
00:26:52,685 --> 00:26:54,194
He's celebrating like crazy.

486
00:26:54,504 --> 00:26:56,895
He's celebrating more
than I am in the video.

487
00:26:57,505 --> 00:26:59,345
And that's just cause
I was in shock of that.

488
00:26:59,345 --> 00:27:01,745
We actually were, we won a
trophy and I couldn't believe it.

489
00:27:02,135 --> 00:27:07,440
But, um, yeah, Yeah, it's also that
video, the TikTok was also important to me

490
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,485
because it documented history of My team
winning, but I care about my team a lot.

491
00:27:11,505 --> 00:27:13,585
And it was just like seeing that moment.

492
00:27:13,625 --> 00:27:16,025
I got to just go on Tik
Tok and relive that moment.

493
00:27:16,645 --> 00:27:18,695
Watch myself react to the video.

494
00:27:19,145 --> 00:27:23,634
Well, and clearly others have
enjoyed in kind of reveling

495
00:27:23,634 --> 00:27:25,445
in that joy with you, right?

496
00:27:25,505 --> 00:27:25,654
Yeah.

497
00:27:25,654 --> 00:27:25,855
Yeah.

498
00:27:25,855 --> 00:27:31,545
Some people were a bit salty
that my team won, but some people

499
00:27:31,545 --> 00:27:35,155
were, but, uh, overall it was
a good, good reaction to it.

500
00:27:35,175 --> 00:27:38,895
And you know, I thoroughly enjoyed
doing the podcast with those guys.

501
00:27:39,075 --> 00:27:40,075
They're a great group of guys.

502
00:27:40,525 --> 00:27:43,285
And being able to experience
certain things with them, like we

503
00:27:43,285 --> 00:27:45,545
went to a football game recently.

504
00:27:45,835 --> 00:27:49,015
It was a Wrexham, I don't know if
you know who that is, Wrexham AFC.

505
00:27:49,015 --> 00:27:49,955
It's owned by Ryan Reynolds.

506
00:27:50,394 --> 00:27:52,974
And Rob McElhenney
versus Manchester United.

507
00:27:52,984 --> 00:27:54,854
We had to go to San
Diego to watch the game.

508
00:27:54,905 --> 00:27:55,994
Did a video on that.

509
00:27:55,994 --> 00:28:00,195
And it was just, Another fun experience
that we were able to do was us three.

510
00:28:00,645 --> 00:28:04,875
So yeah, it's a nice little escape
too because like if it's a busy week

511
00:28:05,084 --> 00:28:08,975
then I have like an, I know I have
an hour set where I can just talk

512
00:28:08,985 --> 00:28:10,065
about something that I love with.

513
00:28:10,544 --> 00:28:13,804
Two guys that are amazing and
yeah, it's just a great time.

514
00:28:14,905 --> 00:28:21,245
Well, and it sounds like you have a lot
of, uh, respect for the kind of team that

515
00:28:21,245 --> 00:28:27,804
you've built for your podcast and how do
you feel like that may connect to your

516
00:28:27,804 --> 00:28:30,635
kind of team interactions playing soccer?

517
00:28:31,094 --> 00:28:32,884
Well, you know, I've always...

518
00:28:32,975 --> 00:28:33,965
It's always been taught to me.

519
00:28:33,965 --> 00:28:37,614
It's always treat everyone with
respect, obviously, you know, treat

520
00:28:37,615 --> 00:28:38,755
others how you want to be treated.

521
00:28:39,105 --> 00:28:43,525
But, you know, it also helps that I went
to school four years with that guy, with

522
00:28:43,555 --> 00:28:47,734
Elijah, and then Diego and I just got
on really well straight from the start

523
00:28:47,785 --> 00:28:49,234
because he was friends with Elijah.

524
00:28:49,815 --> 00:28:53,155
And it, it, sometimes we have our
little bickers, uh, little bickers

525
00:28:53,155 --> 00:28:55,835
here and there, but it creates,
creates for a fun conversation

526
00:28:56,235 --> 00:28:58,585
that adds to the conversation.

527
00:28:59,024 --> 00:29:03,295
But it, it translates well to the
field, cause I, I don't think I've, I've

528
00:29:03,295 --> 00:29:07,075
only non gone along with a few of my
teammates, but that's besides the point.

529
00:29:07,075 --> 00:29:10,315
But overall, you know, you always gotta
get behind your teammates, cause they're

530
00:29:10,385 --> 00:29:11,815
your teammates at the end of the day.

531
00:29:11,815 --> 00:29:15,855
It's 11 players on the pitch, and uh,
you gotta always have each other's backs.

532
00:29:15,985 --> 00:29:19,570
Uh, so It's kind of easy to incorporate
the fact that, like, you have to be

533
00:29:19,570 --> 00:29:22,900
nice to each other, but also just,
like, have everyone's back, especially

534
00:29:22,900 --> 00:29:24,410
people that are important in your life.

535
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,860
And so, I always just try and have
everyone's back, whether it's these

536
00:29:27,860 --> 00:29:29,699
guys or my teammates on the pitch.

537
00:29:29,700 --> 00:29:31,510
Like, I'll always have
their backs no matter what.

538
00:29:31,510 --> 00:29:32,200
No questions asked.

539
00:29:34,169 --> 00:29:40,179
So, I always love to ask what
students plans are after graduation.

540
00:29:40,189 --> 00:29:42,379
Have you, have you
thought about that at all?

541
00:29:42,379 --> 00:29:43,730
Are you starting to?

542
00:29:44,225 --> 00:29:46,595
Make some connections on that front.

543
00:29:46,625 --> 00:29:47,455
What are you thinking?

544
00:29:47,465 --> 00:29:49,935
Um, see, this is where
it gets iffy for me.

545
00:29:49,985 --> 00:29:58,475
Um, uh, you know, Med school is
what I'm aiming for, but I have

546
00:29:58,585 --> 00:30:02,265
a secret passion project, which
is soccer, professional soccer.

547
00:30:02,315 --> 00:30:03,245
It would be the dream.

548
00:30:04,195 --> 00:30:06,615
Uh, but Med school is the realistic dream.

549
00:30:07,065 --> 00:30:12,510
Uh, so, uh, Uh, I'm studying for the MCATs
right now, uh, so I can take it, uh, but

550
00:30:12,530 --> 00:30:16,290
I'll probably, after graduation, probably
go to EMT school and be an EMT for a

551
00:30:16,290 --> 00:30:18,320
little bit, uh, before I go to Med school.

552
00:30:18,390 --> 00:30:22,980
Uh, but, uh, the goal is, the
dream is soccer at the moment.

553
00:30:23,020 --> 00:30:26,210
I'm fully focused on it and I have
Med school in the rear view mirror

554
00:30:26,210 --> 00:30:28,480
though, just in case soccer falls apart.

555
00:30:28,860 --> 00:30:30,850
But my dream is to go professional.

556
00:30:30,870 --> 00:30:33,130
Um, if that happens or not, we will see.

557
00:30:33,570 --> 00:30:37,660
But I have some, I have some things
in the works at the moment to try and

558
00:30:37,660 --> 00:30:39,530
go pro, so we'll see how that goes.

559
00:30:39,540 --> 00:30:43,180
That's, that's the dream after
college, but if not, you'll probably

560
00:30:43,190 --> 00:30:46,340
see me in some med, Med school place.

561
00:30:46,370 --> 00:30:47,840
I don't know, some journal.

562
00:30:49,050 --> 00:30:50,300
Yeah, that sounds great.

563
00:30:50,340 --> 00:30:55,390
Yeah, and I encourage you to pursue
both of those passions as long

564
00:30:55,390 --> 00:30:57,070
as they continue to be passions.

565
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,720
Because you just, you really don't
know where, where life might take you.

566
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,080
So follow, follow your heart.

567
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:10,060
Well, I'm so glad we had a
chance to connect today and

568
00:31:10,060 --> 00:31:11,990
for you to share your story.

569
00:31:12,010 --> 00:31:17,390
And before we say our goodbyes, I
was wondering for, um, students that

570
00:31:17,390 --> 00:31:21,610
may be listening to this or for those
that may be introducing ePortfolios

571
00:31:21,620 --> 00:31:23,130
to students for the first time.

572
00:31:23,130 --> 00:31:26,040
I know when you came to this,
you weren't really sure if it

573
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,000
was going to be of value to you.

574
00:31:28,450 --> 00:31:33,080
Or, um, you know, what stories you
might share, what advice might you

575
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:37,200
have for students that are like, I
don't, what, what is this all about?

576
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,010
How, how could this benefit me?

577
00:31:39,540 --> 00:31:40,640
Just have fun with it.

578
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,920
You know, don't, don't like try and
make it something that it's not.

579
00:31:45,300 --> 00:31:47,660
Uh, just don't try and
make it super academic.

580
00:31:47,660 --> 00:31:51,880
You know, a portfolio is supposed to be
a show yourself, show your personality.

581
00:31:53,215 --> 00:31:55,695
Be a part of you, be a reflection of you.

582
00:31:55,695 --> 00:31:59,145
So just make sure you have your little
pizazz to it, be it, have fun with it.

583
00:31:59,155 --> 00:32:01,835
Cause I had fun with it, compiling
everything, finding everything

584
00:32:02,295 --> 00:32:04,465
and, you know, talking to my
mom, talking to my friend.

585
00:32:05,100 --> 00:32:09,330
And yeah, just, and also be, be
happy to share, share it too.

586
00:32:09,450 --> 00:32:12,650
Just be able to share it and
just share it with anyone.

587
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,380
Um, and yeah, just focus on having fun.

588
00:32:15,380 --> 00:32:16,500
That's the most important part.

589
00:32:16,590 --> 00:32:21,890
And then also the grade helps
too, but, um, just be serious,

590
00:32:21,890 --> 00:32:23,090
but also have fun with it.

591
00:32:23,090 --> 00:32:24,210
It's that perfect balance.

592
00:32:24,210 --> 00:32:25,140
You just gotta find.

593
00:32:25,550 --> 00:32:29,160
But don't try and just make it
all academic and try and put your

594
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,160
own spin on it because that's
what a portfolio is all about.

595
00:32:32,490 --> 00:32:32,870
Right.

596
00:32:32,910 --> 00:32:34,490
Well, thank you so much again.

597
00:32:34,490 --> 00:32:36,170
It was wonderful to talk to you.

598
00:32:36,450 --> 00:32:37,730
Thank you for having me.

599
00:32:37,750 --> 00:32:38,860
Thank you for listening to everyone.

600
00:32:38,860 --> 00:32:39,470
I appreciate it.

601
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:41,510
Thanks so much.

602
00:32:41,590 --> 00:32:42,110
Bye.