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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Everybody, welcome back, assuming that.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not your first time, which is a big assumption.

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<v Speaker 3>That anybody would come back a second time after they

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<v Speaker 3>heard us the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're new to the Bible Guys, I'm Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>this is Jeff, and we are a couple of pastors

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<v Speaker 1>and friends who work at the same church who have

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<v Speaker 1>very similar backgrounds.

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<v Speaker 2>We really do, and we like to talk about the Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, same age, even though I'm older, better.

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<v Speaker 3>Looking, substantially older, Yeah, substantially better looking, questionable, opinions.

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<v Speaker 1>Questionable, and that anyway, we just really just walked through

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible. We're in a series talking about the highlights

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<v Speaker 1>of the milestones of the Old Testament, and right now

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about a battle between well Israel and Judah

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<v Speaker 1>going against airmens.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we do, we have a segment.

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<v Speaker 3>And these are fun segments. We like these sometimes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>because scary people right in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And so here's what we would like to say. We'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to say. We would love for you to write

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<v Speaker 2>Screen right there for the stump the Pastor segment.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, or to be honest, any any question that you

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<v Speaker 1>might have, or comments or emails or feedback. We just

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<v Speaker 1>love it all and we'd like to use it. But

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<v Speaker 1>stump the pastor is what is today? This is from

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<v Speaker 1>Ivy B.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Hi, ivy B, and ivy.

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<v Speaker 1>B says, I really enjoy listening to both of you daily.

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<v Speaker 1>Good job for exclamation.

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<v Speaker 2>Marks four Yes, that might be a record for us.

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<v Speaker 1>You're measuring exclamation for us. The Bible says, unless we

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<v Speaker 1>believe in the Son of God, we will not have

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<v Speaker 1>eternal life. He's the only way to God. What then

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<v Speaker 1>will happen to the people of the Old Testament. Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>was born centuries after them, and no one knows about him,

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<v Speaker 1>only maybe hears about him. Doesn't mean they will not

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<v Speaker 1>have eternal life. People like Abel, Hagar, Samson, boaz Adam. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I get to see them when I go to heaven,

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<v Speaker 1>says Ivy. Great question is great question. Yeah, and so

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<v Speaker 1>there's uh you want to you want me to give? Yeah? So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think that you can really dive. You

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<v Speaker 1>can go down a big well here with theology on this.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, we believe that the Bible is really clear

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<v Speaker 1>about the the Theophanes in the Bible. Uh. There there

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<v Speaker 1>there are places in the Bible where Jesus Christ appears

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<v Speaker 1>in the Old Testament, even though he doesn't physically appear,

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<v Speaker 1>there are times where Jesus will be present in prophecy

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<v Speaker 1>or in symbolism, and he's there and he's he's being

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<v Speaker 1>prophesied uh towards the Cross. So the quick answer is

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<v Speaker 1>simply this that there are consistent places all the way

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<v Speaker 1>from the very beginning, from the Garden of Eden, from creation,

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<v Speaker 1>from creation, all the way up until Jesus Us physically

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<v Speaker 1>came to the earth where Jesus has been prophesied about,

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<v Speaker 1>talked about, and the people the Old Testament may not

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<v Speaker 1>have known his name was Jesus, but they pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>believed in and looked forward to the Cross, which is

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<v Speaker 1>why the system that God had put in place represented Jesus.

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<v Speaker 1>So like, for instance, the animal sacrifices, they didn't remove

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<v Speaker 1>the sins of the people, but they covered the sins temporarily,

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<v Speaker 1>and people would practice animal sacrifices and different things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to the cross, everything pointing to Jesus, and

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<v Speaker 1>we look back at the cross. So we have the

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<v Speaker 1>privilege of you know, you know, being on the other

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<v Speaker 1>side of the completed work of Jesus, and his sacrifice

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<v Speaker 1>actually removes our sins, and it's so complete that it

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<v Speaker 1>removes our future sins. And so basically the short answer

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<v Speaker 1>is is that we all get to have in the

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<v Speaker 1>same way, the people of the Old Testament looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>to the promised Messiah, and the people of the New Testament,

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<v Speaker 1>which is Us, and beyond looking backwards to the promised Messiah,

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<v Speaker 1>which has come.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. That is right, John fourteen six.

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus says that no one comes to the Father except

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<v Speaker 3>through me, and so Jesus is telling the truth. And

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<v Speaker 3>that means that the only way Adam is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be in heaven is through Jesus. The only way that

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<v Speaker 3>you will get to heaven.

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<v Speaker 2>Is through Jesus.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, it's from the first to the last. We all

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<v Speaker 3>will go through Jesus. But there's limited information and knowledge

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<v Speaker 3>for them. But looking forward to and this is why

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<v Speaker 3>God would give the sacrifices the innocent, This is why

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<v Speaker 3>he commanded it that the innocent would pay the price

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<v Speaker 3>for the guilty, knowing that the Messiah would finally come

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<v Speaker 3>and pay the ultimate price for the guilty, even though

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<v Speaker 3>he's completely innocent. That was the totality of what they

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<v Speaker 3>understood about the purpose of the Messiah.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>They also began to believe.

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<v Speaker 3>It began to be a traditional thing to believe that

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<v Speaker 3>the Messiah was going to come and set them free

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<v Speaker 3>from Rome. It's purely political and it was social in

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<v Speaker 3>those last couple hundred years. But prior to that, they

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<v Speaker 3>were always looking forward to the fact that Messiah would

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<v Speaker 3>come and solve this sin issue. And then us looking back,

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<v Speaker 3>we know his name. His name is Jesus, but he

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<v Speaker 3>did the exact same function for us that he did

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<v Speaker 3>for them.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Jesus said, I didn't come to abolish the law.

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<v Speaker 1>I came to fulfill it, to fulfill it right right,

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<v Speaker 1>He was the fulfillment of everything that had been put

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<v Speaker 3>And then this can be really hard for people. So

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<v Speaker 3>I like to mess with the people who like to

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<v Speaker 3>think about these things. But the reason why this works

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<v Speaker 3>is because God is not bound by time. This is

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<v Speaker 3>a time based question. I came after Adam came before

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<v Speaker 3>that's all about time, right, But for God, time isn't

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<v Speaker 3>an issue. He's the author of time, he's the cause

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<v Speaker 3>of time. But the Bible says and he's outside of time, right,

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<v Speaker 3>that's right. The Bible says that a day is a

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<v Speaker 3>thousand years, a thousand years is a day, kind of

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<v Speaker 3>referencing the idea that time has no effect on him.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is why the cross can happen in the

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<v Speaker 3>middle of humanity and it applies both ways. Is because

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<v Speaker 3>he wasn't waiting for it to happen. It happened, and

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<v Speaker 3>All these things is time is not a thing for him,

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<v Speaker 3>and so because of that, then the cross can solve

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<v Speaker 3>That's why even when you trusted Christ, maybe you became

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<v Speaker 3>a Christian ten years ago, but God forgave all of

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<v Speaker 3>your sins forever, right, you know, past, present, in the future.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's because from a cross event that happened two

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<v Speaker 3>thousand years ago. That's why it applies. Is because he's

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<v Speaker 3>not worried about this time component. So that's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>a twist your mind thing, a little bit. But just

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<v Speaker 3>understand it's not a problem for him. You looking back

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<v Speaker 3>thousands of years to Adam is kind of a weird

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<v Speaker 3>just is right. It's not then and now it just is,

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<v Speaker 3>and so is the cross, and the cross solves.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem for everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>So Adam had a limited information, but with the information

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<v Speaker 3>forward to the Messiah, and you have more information to

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<v Speaker 3>who much is given, much has required Jesus said. So

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<v Speaker 3>now as we look back, we have more complete information.

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<v Speaker 3>But even then, Paul says, we have limited information compared

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<v Speaker 3>to what's going to be like in heaven. Right, So

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<v Speaker 3>he says, we're like looking in a in a mirror

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<v Speaker 3>with that's foggy, right, But one day we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>see him face to face. So even while your information

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<v Speaker 3>is more complete than Adams, none of us have complete

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<v Speaker 3>information about Jesus until we actually.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean yeah, well, he says, not the half has been told, right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just half.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's all part.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's faith in what you do know about Jesus,

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<v Speaker 3>not not consequences for what you don't know about Jesus

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<v Speaker 3>name the band.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what this is?

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<v Speaker 1>Your favorite band?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it new song?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay not the half has been told.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't recognize the way you're saying it.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, there it is, there it is. Here's the idea

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<v Speaker 4>of them say it. Yeah, okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So question, thank you Ivy for writy in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, that was fantastic for sure. Talking about going

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<v Speaker 2>to heaven.

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<v Speaker 3>There's some people who don't because they reject God right

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<v Speaker 3>when they die.

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<v Speaker 2>And talking about dying. Wow, Ab dies today?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? In the stories, yes, yes, wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that was a stretch. That was a very that

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<v Speaker 2>was a bad one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're new to listening, we've been trying to get

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<v Speaker 3>the worst transitions we possibly can.

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<v Speaker 2>That's been a goal of ours.

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<v Speaker 1>And that sort of was a transition that led into

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. It was too bad transition.

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<v Speaker 2>Too bad transition.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so bad it needed another transition.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is a These are parallel stories in First

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<v Speaker 3>King's chapter twenty two. You can find the same story

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<v Speaker 3>in Second Chronicles chapter eighteen, and it's telling about the

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<v Speaker 3>death of Ahab. So it's just a few verses here,

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<v Speaker 3>but it says, So, King Ahab of Israel and King

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<v Speaker 3>Jehoshaphat of Judah led their armies against Raymouth Gilead. The

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<v Speaker 3>air Mans had taken Ramoth Gilead, and they wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>take it back. The King of Israel said the Jehastaphah,

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<v Speaker 3>as we go into battle, I'll disguise myself so no

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<v Speaker 3>one will recognize me, but you wear your royal robes.

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<v Speaker 3>So the King of Israel disguised himself and they went

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<v Speaker 3>into battle. Meanwhile, the King of Aram had issued these

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<v Speaker 3>orders to his thirty two chariot commanders. Attack only the

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<v Speaker 3>King of Israel, don't bother with anyone else. So when

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<v Speaker 3>the Aramean chariot commanders saw Jehashaphah in his royal robes,

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<v Speaker 3>they went after him. There's the King of Israel, they shouted.

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<v Speaker 3>But when Jehosaphah called out, the chariot commanders realized he

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<v Speaker 3>An Airman soldier, however, randomly shot an arrow at the

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<v Speaker 3>Israelite troops and shot the King of Israel between the

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<v Speaker 3>joints of his armor. Turn the horses and get me

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<v Speaker 3>I'm badly wounded. The battle raged all that day, and

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<v Speaker 3>So Ahab died and his son a Haziah became the

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<v Speaker 1>as they were doing it, the blood was in the water,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the dogs came and looked up the blood, which,

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<v Speaker 3>more puppies, and my wife and daughter went out and

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<v Speaker 3>got two little tiny yippers. You met him, Yes, Gucci,

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<v Speaker 3>Chanel Gucci and Chanelle Gucci about.

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<v Speaker 2>Tough guy names by the way, the worst manly names ever.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's so it's so funny because I mean they

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<v Speaker 3>and fluffy, all this kind of stuff. Uh, they're terrified

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<v Speaker 3>of everything. And but when I come home, if I

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<v Speaker 3>can't stand it doesn't mean we can bring groceries home

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<v Speaker 3>with meat. And he's interested, but not aggressive. I bring

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<v Speaker 3>home venison, fresh venison, and he turns into like this,

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<v Speaker 3>weirdest thing, right, Yeah, it's dogs. That's what they go for.

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<v Speaker 3>They love it. So this is it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>The weird thing is the translation where it says, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>this is where the prostitutes bathed. The translation could have

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<v Speaker 3>been and the prostitutes bathed in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's a little weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that weird? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Bathing in the blood of the king.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, bathing in the blood of the king.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it's it's pretty talking about shame that that's

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<v Speaker 2>But let's talk about this for a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>Much. If you think about it, it was mixed with

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, but they're right to make a statement. It seems

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, so so the the interesting thing is Jehasha

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<v Speaker 5>Fat made this really bad decision and allowed his son

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<v Speaker 2>It's bad news, right, it's terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Can you imagine, by the way, as a father

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<v Speaker 1>signing off for one of your kids to marry into

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<v Speaker 1>a family that were hedonistic, false worship idling people who

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<v Speaker 1>didn't recognize the authority of God that.

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<v Speaker 3>The Bible says, Well, the Bible doesn't tell all of

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<v Speaker 3>the stories of Ahab and Jezebel. Multiple times, God says

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<v Speaker 3>these are the most wicked people that ever led Israel.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah right, they were worse than all the other kings.

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<v Speaker 3>So so as horrible as we know the kings had

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<v Speaker 3>been up to this point, Ahab was by far worse.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was Joosphat. Was it is his son or

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<v Speaker 1>was it his daughter?

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<v Speaker 2>It was his son married Ahab's.

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<v Speaker 1>Daughter, okay, I dally, okay, so maybe he thought my

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's an alliance, right, right, it's an alliance.

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<v Speaker 3>But Jesebel's daughter is going to be Jezebel's daughter and

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<v Speaker 3>she had all this power over Ahab.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was only thinking, honestly of just from the

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was just purely political. It was diplomatic.

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<v Speaker 1>Daughter is different than giving your son. Giving your son

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<v Speaker 1>you just hope he leads, but giving your daughter, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>is subject you know, especially in that day.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think you probably had this sense of jehosh

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<v Speaker 3>Fat going, hey, here's an opportunity, Ahab, the country is

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<v Speaker 3>not strong. Judah was strong. Israel was not strong. Judah

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<v Speaker 3>was economically prosperous. They had a powerful army. They weren't

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<v Speaker 3>in battle and war all the time. Israel was constantly

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<v Speaker 3>at war. Ahabs, people did not honor God. God did

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<v Speaker 3>not bless them. They were living under the curse. And

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<v Speaker 3>so they have a weaker nation. It's a weak moment,

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<v Speaker 3>and Judah is strong. So now, hey, what if I

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<v Speaker 3>marry his daughter? What if my son marries his daughter? Right,

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<v Speaker 3>we can maybe seize a just a little bit more

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<v Speaker 3>control over the north. Right, there's I think a strategic thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And then in return for that, I think it's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of funny that Ahab goes, hey, listen, as we go

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<v Speaker 3>to war, you wear your robes and look like a king,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm gonna wear a disguise which and pretend I'm

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<v Speaker 2>King the right, Like, why would you agree to that?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>But Ahab's thinking, maybe I can maybe with Jehoshaphat, because

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<v Speaker 3>you've got such a good, good army, maybe we can

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<v Speaker 3>beat Aram. And at the same time, maybe they'll kill Jehoshapat.

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<v Speaker 3>I can get both kingdoms, right, he's playing both ends

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<v Speaker 2>Well, And so so you've.

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<v Speaker 3>Got I think Jehoshaphat thinking, hey, I'm gonna I'm I'm slack,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're gonna work out this this family kind of diplomacy,

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<v Speaker 3>and eventually, over time, I'm gonna play the long game

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm gonna take over Israel and have a going No,

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<v Speaker 3>you wear your kingly robes and I'll just wear this.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys, well, I think that he's also trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>him killed. Well yeah, but he's also trying to avoid

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<v Speaker 1>the one prophet who who predicted the truth, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>in the back of his mind, he's thinking, well, somebody's

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<v Speaker 1>dying today. Somebody's dying. And by the way, how ridiculous

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<v Speaker 1>is it to think that he get out smart what

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<v Speaker 1>God says. Right. So you know all the time in

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<v Speaker 1>the scripture, you know, when we live our lives, we

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, God encourages us, he commands us, he

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<v Speaker 1>nudges us. You know, he challenges us, and all these

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<v Speaker 1>different kinds of things. And so here's the thing. God's

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<v Speaker 1>Galatians saying, right, don't be deceived? God is the moms right,

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna saw what You're gonna what you read, and

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<v Speaker 1>can't avoid it. It's like Jonah can't run in sale

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<v Speaker 1>to Tarshis far enough, right, It's like you can't outrun God.

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<v Speaker 1>And so and so here he wears a disguise. Well

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<v Speaker 1>guess what it was? Actually think about this. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think about this ti this very second. It was actually

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<v Speaker 1>the arrow perhaps would not have Eddie woren his other outfit.

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<v Speaker 1>It wouldn't have slipped through that exact crack of that

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<v Speaker 1>exact armor, right, because I mean, think about it, different

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<v Speaker 1>outfits are gonna have different seams, and they're gonna look

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I have had conversations with people before. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>some Christians will talk about the fact that nothing is random, right, right,

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<v Speaker 3>but God chooses to use this verse that says it

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<v Speaker 3>was a random guy. So this guy was not aiming

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<v Speaker 3>at anybody, right, He was just shooting at the forces

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>He wasn't aiming at Ahab, He wasn't intentionally trying to

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<v Speaker 3>in his armor, just just just a gap, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>armor here, big chunk of armor on your shoulders, whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>in your back. But you're going to have to have

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<v Speaker 3>cracks that got through. And you know, he he bled

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<v Speaker 3>for a long time from the middle of the day

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<v Speaker 1>Died, which goes to show you that God, like God trumps.

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<v Speaker 2>All us absolutely, that's right, He.

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<v Speaker 1>Trumps all uds. And and you know, so sometimes we think, oh, no, like,

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<v Speaker 1>how could this possibly work out for the best? How

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<v Speaker 1>could this possibly you know, go my way? When we're

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<v Speaker 1>of chance that, you know, this person would be healed.

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<v Speaker 1>There's only a certain amount of chance that I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>He knew exactly you know, he knew exactly where it

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<v Speaker 1>go into ministry, I was at a summer camp and

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<v Speaker 1>and I actually snuck out of my cabin like some

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I went out and coming Chris, Yeah, I went.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen one. And I said, I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>started saying, in how great they are? And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and of course it starts with the Lord

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<v Speaker 1>that God, when I also want to consider all the

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<v Speaker 1>worlds they have, you know. Anyway, So I'm sitting there

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<v Speaker 1>singing all that, and just as I hit the crescendo

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<v Speaker 1>of the chorus, right, how great thou art, God said

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<v Speaker 1>a little shoot star right perfectly untiming, right as I

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<v Speaker 1>was singing right, how great thou were? And then I

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<v Speaker 1>thought to myself, wait a minute, stars burn out millions

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<v Speaker 1>of miles away. Light travels at what one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>eighty six thousand miles an hour or something like that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So God timed it right. God's like, hey, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna cause the start to burn out. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>burned out a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 3>But it'd be a meter, right, but ibe what it'd

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<v Speaker 3>be an asteroid or a meteorite.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, I mean that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it's not a real star.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. That's right. Okay, fine, fine, still shooting star

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<v Speaker 1>is what we call it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we call it. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And then but anyway, but it's like, it's like it

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<v Speaker 1>was the timing. And I thought to myself, I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, I tried to calculate all of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, I wonder if God decided a long time ago,

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<v Speaker 1>did he put in motion? And he said, like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to give it to him right right at the

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<v Speaker 1>right at the rest.

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<v Speaker 2>Worked it out.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, That thing's barreling things barreling through space at tens

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<v Speaker 3>of thousands of miles an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just thought to myself like, like can God?

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<v Speaker 1>Does God really care about me that much? And then

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<v Speaker 1>I decided, Yeah, I think he does.

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<v Speaker 3>So so this idea of randomness is really hard for

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<v Speaker 3>people to understand. That God's in control and yet he

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<v Speaker 3>allows some things to be random. In some of the

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<v Speaker 3>other you know, uh translations, it says, and a certain

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<v Speaker 3>man drew a bow at a venture, right. He just

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<v Speaker 3>he had no intent, He's just shooting, right, is what

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<v Speaker 3>it says. Soh when God chooses to intervene, that's a miracle.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why the Bible tells.

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<v Speaker 3>Us about it, right, It's because that's not normal, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And so what was what was extraordinary was this is

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<v Speaker 3>a random event. And sometimes random things happen. Sometimes you

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<v Speaker 3>just are in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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<v Speaker 3>And it wasn't that God was like, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>make that thing happen to you. Sometimes things just happen

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<v Speaker 3>to you, right. But what God can do is then

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<v Speaker 3>take that random moment and manage it for his purposes, right, right.

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<v Speaker 3>And so so when God chooses to take a random

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<v Speaker 3>moment and intervene, that's super natural. So God created everything

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<v Speaker 3>in the natural, and he set up all of his

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<v Speaker 3>natural laws. So then everything functions within the parameters of

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<v Speaker 3>his natural law. But they function right. But everything functions

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<v Speaker 3>within the laws that God established, even within our lives.

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<v Speaker 3>Are respiratory things, digestive things, how gravity works, friction, momentum,

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<v Speaker 3>all that stuff just happens. It's happening now that he

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<v Speaker 3>set in place. God's in control of it from the

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<v Speaker 3>perspective of he can intervene at any moment, but when

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<v Speaker 3>he chooses not to intervene, it runs in the way

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<v Speaker 3>that he established it. That's still God's authority. He established

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<v Speaker 3>it that way. So then a guy can just be

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<v Speaker 3>riding in his chariot, pull up his bow, shoot an arrow,

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<v Speaker 3>just to shoot an arrow, because it turns out he's

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<v Speaker 3>in a war, right, He's in a battle, and so

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<v Speaker 3>he shoots this thing, but he's not aiming at anybody.

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<v Speaker 3>And then God goes, Okay, that arrow is the one,

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<v Speaker 3>and he reaches in and supernatural super means above or beyond.

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<v Speaker 3>So the natural thing this guy does, centrifical or not

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<v Speaker 3>centrifical force, thermodynamics right opposite and equal reaction lets that

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<v Speaker 3>string go.

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<v Speaker 2>The arrow goes.

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<v Speaker 3>That's one of God's laws. It's flying through there and goes,

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<v Speaker 3>God goes. Okay, let's guide that one right in there,

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<v Speaker 3>because today's Ahab's day, right, and God supernaturally he imposed

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<v Speaker 3>himself on nature in that moment and guided that arrow

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<v Speaker 3>to kill Ahab in that moment. So it's okay for

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<v Speaker 3>you to accept the fact that some things happen. That

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't so much the plan as it is. It just happens.

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<v Speaker 3>It just happens, and then it's not wrong for us.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why we pray for God to intervene in our lives.

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<v Speaker 3>We pray that God would do miracles. We pray that

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<v Speaker 3>God would protect us. Jesus said, lead us not in temptation,

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<v Speaker 3>but deliver us from bad things. Right, Jesus says, we

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<v Speaker 3>need your provision. There's all these things. We need God

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<v Speaker 3>to intervene in what is the natural systems, and when

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<v Speaker 3>that happens, that's when we experience a miracle.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>And so this can be kind of a confusing thing

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<v Speaker 3>when you read this phrase, but that's all it is

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<v Speaker 3>is life happens, and when God chooses to intervene, that's

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<v Speaker 3>why he tells us about it in the Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, So.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I mean at the end, the human reaction

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<v Speaker 1>is almost always hey, what are the yeah right, We

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<v Speaker 1>always say like, can you believe it's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>us or.

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<v Speaker 2>The other one?

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<v Speaker 1>Is?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that was God's will, yeah right now, it was

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<v Speaker 3>God's will to choose not to intervene. But it may

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<v Speaker 3>not have been something that God went, oh good, here's

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<v Speaker 3>a bad thing coming for Chris, right right. It doesn't mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, somebody runs the red light. It doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 3>that he made them run the red light to.

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<v Speaker 1>Hit you, right right, yeah, right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And so that's what I'm saying is life happens, we

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<v Speaker 3>get caught up in life. Sometimes God chooses to intervene supernaturally.

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<v Speaker 3>Otherwise we're living within the authority of the systems, the

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<v Speaker 3>laws that He put in place. And this is one

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<v Speaker 3>of those passages. There's several in the Bible that just

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<v Speaker 3>talk about this idea of randomly or unintentional decisions, and

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<v Speaker 3>then God chooses from that unintentional decision to intervene. That's

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<v Speaker 3>Rome's eight twenty eight. God causes all things to work

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<v Speaker 3>together for good for those who love him or called

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<v Speaker 3>accordingate purpose. It doesn't say God causes all things right

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<v Speaker 3>right to happen, but it does say God can take

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<v Speaker 3>everything that is happening and make it work out for good.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really good. That's really good. Okay, well that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>our time, and so we're going to pick up tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully we'll see you then on the Bible gus

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<v Speaker 1>mhm hm