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welcome to the Live Lightly podcast.

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I'm your host, Jessica Franklin.

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today's episode, we're going to explore
how some of the most common chemicals

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present in everyday plastics impacts
hormone health.

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I'm joined by Maritza Worthington, a
functional hormone practitioner and

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women's health nutritionist.

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Welcome, Maritza.

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Thank you so much for having me, Jessica,
and I can't wait for us to just dig in.

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just be on this for hours, I wanna dive
right in.

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What toxins in plastics are considered

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hormone disruptors because this is where
your expertise comes in and I'm sure you

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see it a lot.

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Yeah, you know, plastic, it is everywhere.

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And I think there's like about 240 ,000,
you know, particles of plastic in just one

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liter of bottled water.

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So yeah, if you think that you're not
intaking plastic, you're probably wrong

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because on a weekly basis, I think it's
like what five grams that people intake.

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It's a lot.

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So over time, you know, it all accumulates
in the body and it starts to disrupt

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hormones and.

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I would say the top offending chemicals in
plastic are gonna be phthalates, BPA, and

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also the heavy metals that come with those
plastics like lead, antimony, and arsenic.

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So all of that is in just a plastic
bottled water.

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Yeah, that's a lot.

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And when you hear that, you would never
have chosen to drink out of a plastic

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bottle.

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But it's not only in water bottles.

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chemicals are found in a lot of plastics
that our food is packaged in at the

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grocery store too, correct?

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Yeah, so food packaging is another big
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And then the containers that people use,
if you're microwaving plastic, that's

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going to be 10 times worse.

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So, you know, these plastics, they
increase estrogen in the body.

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And not only that, they affect fertility.

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They impact both male and female hormones,
and they affect pregnant women as well.

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So,

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You know, I see the impact of that over
time that can come up in testing.

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And the way that I can tell that maybe
someone had too much plastic is if they

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are too estrogen dominant.

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So if their estrogen or estradiol is a
little bit higher than normal and their

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progesterone levels are too low, then that
is an indicator of, okay, there could be

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too much plastic here in the diet that is
just disrupting everything.

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So I would say probably the women that are
most affected by plastic are those that

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are looking to get pregnant, women that
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moms.

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What if you're talking about someone who
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pregnant and I'm not a breastfeeding mom,
let's say a teenager or somebody in their

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early twenties who just not got that on
their radar yet.

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So, you know, probably a little bit of
plastic in the body isn't going to make a

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whole big difference, especially like if
somebody is younger and, you know, their

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journey with plastic is going to be a lot
less than, you know, somebody that is

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hitting their mid thirties and above.

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However, BPA is cumulative.

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So what that means is it builds up in the
body and it's stored in tissues.

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It does like.

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adipose tissues.

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So that means it's going to go for those
fatty organs like the brain.

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It's going to collect the sort of belly
area.

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So over time is when it becomes a toxic
burden.

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So that toxic burden might be really low
for someone who's young, but I'm just, you

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know, kind of scared to see like, what
will that look like if there is no change

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to the diet five, 10, 15 years later?

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And how can that become

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an infertility case.

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So sometimes we don't always make that
connection, but you know, you can always

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connect the dots looking back.

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And I think plastic is definitely, it's
part of that puzzle.

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yeah, let's go ahead and talk a little bit
about some of the things that people start

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experiencing and then maybe their OBGYN
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path to,

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solving those issues because they're not
really looking at these types of

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indicators, are they?

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not part of the standard American
healthcare plan.

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So I would say that like toxins are very
much overlooked in Western medicine.

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So that's definitely not something that
your OB -GYN is going to bring up.

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They're not as concerned about plastic
because if they were, they wouldn't be

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recommending things like plastic IUDs,
which cause nutrient depletions.

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and actually cause more hormone disruption
over time.

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let's dive into how the plastics are
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Estrogen dominance is probably the most
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And that's because BPA is considered a
Xenoestrogen.

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So what that means is it mimics your own
estrogen in the body.

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So your body actually can't tell the
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versus what is its own estrogen, which
means that it starts to bind to your cells

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receptors equally.

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You know, now we have double the estrogen
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naturally.

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So it competes with your own estrogen.

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And they actually found with BPA
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to PCOS.

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So PCOS, polycystic ovarian syndrome, you
know, this, this is the woman who

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struggles to have regular periods.

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who has probably some fertility issues on
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It's become a very popular hormonal
condition.

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And I just find it amazing that even
something like that can be linked to

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having just too much BPA and plastic in
the body.

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and when you say linked to it, you're
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proving these types of situations Is that
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Yeah, and PubMed, they have a study that
correlates PCOS with having too much BPA.

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And that's because estrogen is too high,
which means that progesterone is going to

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be lower.

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And in women, it actually also increases
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women that have PCOS.

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Okay, so it's basically sending all the
wrong signals to your body.

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And so how are you seeing it affect women
in pregnancy?

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In pregnancy, you know, I feel like these
women are so vulnerable to the whole

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plastic contamination because plastic ends
up in the placenta.

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Scientists have found this to be true.

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It can pass in utero.

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It passes through breast milk.

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So I feel like if there's any time in a
woman's life when they are just going to

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like start banning plastic for good, it
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journey and also in

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pregnancy especially.

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And it could just be little swaps.

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I think that sometimes as women, we just
like over complicate things or we say that

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is just way too hard.

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How am I supposed to live in a plastic
free world?

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And that's where I really like to just
simplify it and, you know, show people

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what's what's important.

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What are the little shifts that they can
make that have the most impact?

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And, you know, we started off talking
about bottled waters.

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That's a huge one.

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That's something that people consume water
every single day.

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Tap water also includes a lot of these
plastic chemicals and heavy metals.

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So it's the number one place that I think
everybody should be starting is the water.

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Absolutely!

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And I love putting Go Pure pods in my
refillable water bottle so that if you're

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out and about and you run out of water you
can find anywhere to fill your water

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bottle and it will within three minutes be
very clean.

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There's a lot of tools these days that
that we can use.

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And, you were talking about pregnant
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increase their water intake.

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So you can only imagine, if they're
drinking tap water or constantly out of

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plastic bottles, that's probably not
setting.

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herself, you know, this woman isn't
setting herself up in the best way for a

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breastfeeding journey, you know, because a
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the baby.

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And really it could be simple, like what
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bottles, It's just about making those
swaps and, you know, little by little

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So, you know, we don't have to make it
overly complicated, I think.

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Yeah, that's very true.

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I started doing it for my health., and
then I started realizing the impact that

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plastics were having on the environment,
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it literally never goes away, these
chemicals that are leaching into the

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plastic water bottle, which are basically
invisible,

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Those are forever.

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Forever in the environment.

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the PFAS are forever chemicals, right?

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And that's also in your plastic.

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And when they say forever, literally
that's what it is.

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I think that PFAS are the most difficult
to detox from the body because they are so

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stubborn and they will stay in the body
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So yeah, I would say that that one's
probably the worst of the bunch.

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And so we'll get to detox journey, but I
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bit.

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And you talked about how they are
affecting hormones and how that can affect

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fertility or pregnancy and the fetus.

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And then, of course, moving on to
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So that's a lot of layers already.

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But how about the nutrient and mineral
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Where are we at on that?

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because again when you're preparing your
body for pregnancy or you are pregnant or

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you are breastfeeding you need to be
taking in and able to absorb nutrients and

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minerals from your food or maybe you're
taking some supplements and if this is

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causing disruption in that process then I
think this is really important for people

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to know.

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yeah, so I would say that plastics are
very much intertwined with heavy metals.

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There's a lot of heavy metals that are in
plastic, and so a lot of those heavy

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metals will displace minerals, and some of
the top ones that I think about, like

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lead, arsenic, that's in your standard
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your calcium, iron, and zinc.

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And those three are very, very important,
especially if a woman is looking to just

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be healthier, have more energy, and then
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like pregnancy.

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Iron is a huge one because a lot of women
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pregnant.

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So I do tend to see a lot of iron
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more and more in testing that I do.

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Calcium, that can also be important for
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be balanced with magnesium.

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But a lot of these heavy metals will
deplete minerals and then women will

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wonder, why do I feel so burnt out?

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Why do I feel so exhausted?

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Why is my period irregular?

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Why am I having issues with trying to
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And it's just amazing that a lot of this
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go back to, okay, what are the toxins that
we need to remove from the body, but also

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what are the minerals that we need to
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So it's kind of a check and balance of
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Yeah, there's so many different layers to
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And I do want to talk a little bit about
some other products that women are using

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on their skin?

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I know that there are a lot of Yeah, so
tell us what you know about that.

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second to the water are the makeup body
care products that women use.

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And a lot of those have phthalates in
them, but also, you know, BPA, a lot of

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hormone disruptors, and of course, even
heavy metals, right?

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I would say that's all sort of packaged
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And those are also considered
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So again, your body can't really
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and these estrogen mimickers that are out
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And so, you know, I would say that that is
probably a second category that women

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really need to dive into, especially the
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Makeup can be extremely toxic.

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And so that is also another great place to
really spend some time and, you know,

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little by little start auditing your
makeup bag.

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you know, trading out your lipsticks and
it could be a process, but it's definitely

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something that I think most women should
at least get started with.

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yeah, it sounds like that's something that
can take a little bit of time because you

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don't want to just throw away what you
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Maybe if you're pregnant or breastfeeding,
you might not throw it away, but you might

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set it aside for a while.

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And you might do a full swap right now if
you're listening and you're pregnant or

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breastfeeding.

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And if you want to return to those at a
safer time to finish them out, if

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that's...

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you know, something that you'd like to do
to not be wasteful, then great.

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But I'd say definitely making the full
transition if you are currently pregnant

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or breastfeeding would probably be
advised.

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You know, I think it's it's more about the
baby at that point.

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And so of course, we all want to look
beautiful and we can right we can with

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there are so many great clean beauty
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And I always think that just like a good
mascara and lipstick.

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are really what matters and yeah, we don't
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You know, sometimes less is more.

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absolutely.

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even in the beauty creams So.

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anything that is very fragrant that maybe
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essential oil, that could definitely be a
red flag for phthalates.

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definitely.

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And if you're not familiar with any of
these terms, don't worry because it takes

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some time and it takes some research and
digging don't panic, don't worry.

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there are just too many resources that you
can lean on to get you to the right place.

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So, you know, I like what you're saying.

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about, you know, not getting overly
stressed about this, right?

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Because that's not great for hormones
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That's why I want to reiterate, you know,
it is a journey, right?

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And I still kind of find myself, something
might be in my makeup bag and I'm like,

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okay, that one's got to go.

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You know, it's okay, right?

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We need to give ourselves, I think, grace
as women.

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And it's like any little micro step that
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matters, it counts.

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Because it's just slowly decreasing that
toxic load, right?

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And you're like gaining good credit in the
body again.

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So yeah, I just kind of wanted to feed off
of that.

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if people are experiencing anything like
infertility, what would the first step be

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when someone comes to you with an issue
like that?

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So if you're looking to optimize
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regular periods, the first step would just
be to set up a clarity call with me.

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That way we can just identify, okay, what
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What are your body's needs?

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Because everybody is so different.

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So I like to really personalize that
health journey for women.

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I think that's what makes it so different
than just going to the doctor and getting

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a 15 minute consult versus really spending
that time to dive deeply, get to know

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these women individually, and then tailor
a plan that is really conducive to what

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they're looking to accomplish because so
much of this can be done naturally.

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there's so much that we can do with
functional medicine to really get to the

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root of the problem.

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I don't want to overwhelm people with too
much, and I also don't want it to feel

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like gloom and doom because there are
definitely things that people can do.

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So what steps can someone take to start
their plastic detox journey for achieving

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healthier hormones?

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Yes, I love this because there's always
something that we can do about all of it.

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And that's why, you know, I love doing
what I do.

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It's like, what's the point if we, you
know, if I can't create change in people's

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lives.

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And the reality is, you know, you can
start to take back control starting today

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after listening to this episode.

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And some of the things that you can start
to do are just incorporating more

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cruciferous vegetables in your diet.

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So that helps to, you know, detox the
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So it helps to bind out that excess
estrogen.

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You can include some binders.

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You know, I would say probably work with a
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binder recommendation.

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But I would say chlorella is kind of like
a nice place to start.

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If you are currently pregnant listening to
this, you can also intake chlorella in

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your diet.

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So totally safe.

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Other things you can do are make sure that
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the point of actually sweating.

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That'll help clear out a little bit more
plastic from the body.

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And then of course, you know,
incorporating more stainless steel, glass,

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porcelain, slowly, little by little,
swapping out your plastic containers for

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things like that.

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Yes, that's a lot of great information
Because if you had to start doing the

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research, I think it would take a while to
get up to speed to figure out all these

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little hacks that you just gave.

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I always like to just make sure that
you're connecting with an expert like you

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to get the right advice and get on the
right path.

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Absolutely, so it's always good to get
more personalized in your health journey

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because that way we can really identify
Okay, what are the things that we need to

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clear from the body?

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And what are the things that your body
needs more of right and we can only really

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find that out through personalized testing
and I use a lot of that within my practice

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So then we can identify.

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Okay.

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These are the minerals that are getting
way too low in your body

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these are the toxins that are reaching
higher than normal levels, right?

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That way you're not worried about all the
toxins out there.

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We're just worried about the ones that are
getting a little too high.

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Okay, now we can identify those and start
to clear it.

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So I think having that clarity can be
just, can make a huge difference when it

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comes to the health journey.

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That way you're not just kind of shooting
in the dark when it comes to supplements

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and you're not like guessing or.

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over Googling, trying to figure it out,
you can get more clear answers and then we

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can really tailor a plan that's based
around that.

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I think that's so important to point out
because you can have three people with all

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the same symptoms but with different
causes, right?

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Like different external circumstances and
different lifestyle.

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so each person,

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is going to have a totally different
journey to get back to their health.

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And the only way to do that really is to
work with a professional such as yourself

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and build that plan that is based on their
particular story.

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plastic is the one maybe common puzzle
piece that everybody can probably take

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away and do so much better but.

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all the other little things can be
completely individualized

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Absolutely.

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I know that you do a clarity call to help
people, so how does that work?

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So the clarity call is there if you want
to just connect and see if this could be a

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really good fit.

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And just so I can get to know you and what
are your health goals and how can I

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specifically help your unique needs.

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So the clarity call is there for that.

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And it's just a quick 15, 20 minute call.

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And the way to set that up is through
either my Instagram, @Hormonealchemist, or

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you can find me on hormonalchemist .com.

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And there's a button there that you can
push.

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So you could set up a clarity call with me
and then that way we can just chat and

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figure out how to best target any sort of
hormone imbalance issues that you're going

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through, period problems, and also just
how to optimize fertility.

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So all of that is available on my website.

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Yes, which it is a beautiful website.

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And you also have your guide.

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I love your guide.

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And talk a little bit about that because
that's another wonderful resource for

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people if they're not quite sure what's
happening or if they want to reach out to

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you for a clarity call just at this time.

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But I really love that resource.

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Absolutely.

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So the path to peaceful periods is my free
guide on the website.

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And you know, I like to think of a woman's
period as like a menstrual report card

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that really informs us so much about our
overall health.

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Because a woman's period is tied to her
energy.

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It's tied to her fertility.

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It's tied to just so many functions in the
body, right?

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So if you're curious to know if your
period is actually healthy,

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normal, quote unquote normal, what is
normal anyway, then you want to make sure

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that you opt in for that guide so that you
can go through the checklist and see what

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it is that you need to work on versus what
might be already working for you.

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So I have a lot of women who have found it
to be very eye -opening because a lot of

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things that we have been told are normal
aren't actually normal, like things like

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PMS that we've sort of.

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accepted as a society, you know, is not
actually normal, right?

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That is the body saying there's something
up here.

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And a lot of that can also be linked to
things like mineral deficiencies.

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So make sure you check that out if you're
curious to know more.

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And you have a Facebook group.

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Yeah, so it's called the Body Literate
Babe Collective and it's a free Facebook

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group.

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So if you opt in for the Path to Peaceful
Periods Guide, you'll also get automatic

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access into the group where I do free
trainings.

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I also do occasional free master classes.

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So that's a great way to challenge
yourself and really start to take some

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positive steps towards detoxing and
balancing your hormones naturally.

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So I hope if there's any like big takeaway
from our chat today, it's that, you know,

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if you're listening to this and you're a
woman who just wants to take positive

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action, like hopefully you feel confident
to do so, you feel empowered to do so.

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And also, you know, I want to make sure
that we don't have any worry and fear

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around, my God, I have so much plastic.

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Maybe you're like looking around your
house as you're listening to this and

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you're like, I have so many plastic items.

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Like, what am I going to do?

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Well, you know, that's why resources are
here and I think available to tap into.

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And I know that Jessica has also such a
great resource with her free ebook where

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she gives you links to products that you
can start to look into.

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I know I found it very valuable as a new
mother.

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So I was really looking at the part where
you were talking about baby toys and

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things like that.

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So it's like it applies to any woman,
whether you're a mother or you're not.

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you're going through menopause, no matter
where you're at in your journey, you know,

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you could definitely pull inspiration from
that resource.

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Aw, thank you so much.

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I appreciate that.

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And that's why I made it.

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I felt like making a resource like...

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that would take away a lot of that stress
and overwhelm to do the research.

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So yeah, that's why I did that.

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And also that's part of what inspired me
to even start this podcast was to give a

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resource that people can turn to for
finding out about how to live a healthier

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life.

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in alignment with Mother Nature as well.

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So I think sustainability and wellness are
directly connected.

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Absolutely.

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And I think, you know, similar to the
hormone health journey, we need to

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constantly tell ourselves progress over
perfection, right?

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That is the message.

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so that it doesn't hold you back from
doing something.

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So I love that you made that point

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100%.

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Well, thank you so much for having me.

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It's been an absolute pleasure talking to
all things plastic and hormone health with

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you.

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I loved this conversation.

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Thank you for joining me.

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And for everyone who wants to have links
for how to connect with Maritza, they will

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be in the show notes as well as a link to
my guide.

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So thank you for joining me on this
episode.