Fritz's favorite historian, Marcus Rediker, joins The State Between Us to unearth long-lost nautical stories of bold and brilliant people liberating themselves from American slavery in the 19th century, and the incredible revolutionary life and fight of the 18th century Quaker, Benjamin Lay. Blood-spewing bibles, sailor solidarity, clever conspiracies, and the ruling-class' paranoid scramble to retain their inhuman systems of control await!
This episode focuses on these excellent titles by Marcus Rediker, but check out his website for a full list of his work: *The Many-Headed Hydra: Sailors, Slaves, Commoners, and the Hidden History of the Revolutionary Atlantic. Co-authored by Peter Linebaugh. Beacon Press, 2000. *The Fearless Benjamin Lay: The Quaker Dwarf Who Became the First Revolutionary Abolitionist. Beacon Press, 2017. *Freedom Ship: The Uncharted History of Escaping Slavery by Sea. Viking Press, 2025.
Intro Song: "Follow The Drinking Gourd" performed by Roger McGuinn feat. Nedra Talley Ross (2005). Here it here! Outro Song: "Cello and Voice" by Ramona
My name is Fritz McAlinden and this is The State Between Us, the anti-fascist podcast for dark dives into the ruling class insanity and fashy political cultures as well as our defenses against them through mutual aid and building each other up, sharing knowledge, and connecting the disparate voices in our overlapping struggles. Also TTRPGs, Sci-Fi, and other nerd shit. Let's get weird with it!
