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      "title": "Cold open\r",
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      "title": "Who’s Buck Shlegeris?\r",
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      "title": "The cheapest AI control techniques\r",
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      "title": "Can we get untrusted models to do trusted work?\r",
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      "title": "If we catch a model escaping... will we do anything?\r",
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      "title": "Getting AI models to think they've already escaped\r",
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      "title": "Will they be able to tell it's a setup?\r",
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      "title": "Will AI companies do any of this stuff?\r",
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      "title": "Can we just give AIs fewer permissions?\r",
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      "title": "Can we stop human spies the same way?\r",
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    {
      "title": "The pitch to AI companies to do this\r",
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    {
      "title": "Will AIs get superhuman so fast that this is all useless?\r",
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    {
      "title": "Risks from AI deliberately doing a bad job\r",
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      "title": "Is alignment still useful?\r",
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    {
      "title": "Current alignment methods don't detect scheming\r",
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      "title": "How to tell if AI control will work\r",
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    {
      "title": "How can listeners contribute?\r",
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    {
      "title": "Is 'controlling' AIs kind of a dick move?\r",
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    {
      "title": "Could 10 safety-focused people in an AGI company do anything useful?\r",
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      "title": "Benefits of working outside frontier AI companies\r",
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      "title": "Why Redwood Research does what it does\r",
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      "title": "What other safety-related research looks best to Buck?\r",
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      "title": "If an AI escapes, is it likely to be able to beat humanity from there?\r",
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      "title": "Will misaligned models have to go rogue ASAP, before they're ready?\r",
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      "title": "Is research on human scheming relevant to AI?",
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