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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Jeff, I am blessed and highly favored. How

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<v Speaker 1>are you today?

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<v Speaker 2>I am doing great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The reason why I'm blessed in highly favored is

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday's podcast. We were Matthew seven and then this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>which happens, you know, right after we record right in

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<v Speaker 1>a row the next day. The next day. So I

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<v Speaker 1>actually took my Bible and I just flipped and it

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<v Speaker 1>went directly to the page.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's exactly right. So you are blessed and highly favored.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, I turned to the exact page.

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<v Speaker 2>So if that's how you want to use today's blessings,

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that starts. That is the tip of the iceberg.

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<v Speaker 2>What if that's the only one you're getting today?

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<v Speaker 1>Now? Are you kidding? Are you kidd I'm blessed sitting

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<v Speaker 1>next to you, Jeff, I'm blessing.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, both of them. Then you got both your

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<v Speaker 2>blessings already five minutes into the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Here, Wow, the day I'm all used up. Well, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the guys. I'm Christ this is Jeff, and

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<v Speaker 1>we are excited that you've joined us. Today, we are

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<v Speaker 1>in a series what if Jesus had a podcast covering

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<v Speaker 1>the famous sayings of Jesus? And today is this is

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<v Speaker 1>the saying called do you want to leave too?

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<v Speaker 2>That's a pretty that's oh, this is a big story.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a big, big question.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we get into that, we have a segment

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<v Speaker 1>by Desiree and it's one of my favorite segments, Who's

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<v Speaker 1>most likely?

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<v Speaker 2>Who's most likely?

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<v Speaker 1>I like these because it just forces us to pick.

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<v Speaker 2>We should have like a who's most likely likely?

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<v Speaker 1>I like you think everything is that voice with you? Though? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I know, yeah, it's like you like Stomp the pastor

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<v Speaker 1>Yesterday everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Every commercial I would do would always sound like a

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<v Speaker 2>truck pull right right, a monster truck.

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<v Speaker 1>Sound like a movie trailer in the world where people

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<v Speaker 1>are most likely to do things?

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<v Speaker 2>So who's most likely?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? So anyway, I like the would you rather? And

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<v Speaker 1>I like the Who's most likely because it forced you

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<v Speaker 1>to pick a choice. Yes, so here's the first one.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's most likely to survive a zombie apocalypse with style?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that'd be you.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know with style? You have better style than me.

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<v Speaker 1>I might have the style part, but I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>any guns. Well there's that, and you have multiple guns,

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<v Speaker 1>well yeah, and so I and not not to mention,

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<v Speaker 1>you have more survival skills, uh, in the outdoors, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming that you're gonna have to run. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be you know, bolted up in your gun room, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you probably have to be on the go, right, walking

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<v Speaker 1>dead and such out in the wood, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or growing food, yeah, finding something? Yeah. Who's most

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<v Speaker 2>likely to crash a wedding and give a toast? That

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<v Speaker 2>is definitely you? Well I used to, did you used to?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? So this is the honest, goodness truth, Me and

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<v Speaker 1>my buddy Jeff Miller, who you know who's listening right now?

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, Hi Jeff, Hi Jeff. We invented the

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<v Speaker 1>movie Wedding Crashers. We invented that concept when we were teenagers, fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Years before the movie because nobody else was even doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I'm sure they were, but I remember.

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<v Speaker 2>You just came up with the idea on your own. O.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. We didn't read about it. We didn't hear

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<v Speaker 1>about it. We just said hey, and because my girlfriend

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<v Speaker 1>was working at a place that did weddings and so

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, and so I remember literally one night

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<v Speaker 1>in particular where Jeff says, hey, get dressed up, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going out, and so he actually invited Julie, I invited Sharon.

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<v Speaker 1>We all got dressed up. I was in a suit.

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<v Speaker 1>I was only sixteen. We picked him up and they're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>where are we going? We're going out to fancy dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>We went to the Mayrinight Center on Meridian Road and

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<v Speaker 1>there's a there's three weddings happening, and so we went

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<v Speaker 1>from wedding reception to wedding reception to wedding reception. And

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<v Speaker 1>in Youngstown they're really big, you know, weddings with big

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<v Speaker 1>Italian families with all these great food, right, and we

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<v Speaker 1>were going there. We would dance and Jeff literally caught

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<v Speaker 1>the garter. No, he caught the garter in a mafia wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a mafia wedding. And then he put the

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<v Speaker 1>garter on the brine. Oh no, and then they asked

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<v Speaker 1>who are you and we had to run through the

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<v Speaker 1>kitchen and we had to run out and escape crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you guys give a toast?

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<v Speaker 1>No, we didn't give a toast, Okay, but I've done

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<v Speaker 1>everything but the toast.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go.

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<v Speaker 1>I let a congo line in a dance. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>let a congo line, which is great.

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<v Speaker 2>This is this is the difference between the two of us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, most likely, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>This is why I don't mind talking about obeying the

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<v Speaker 2>laws of God and why you only only depend on

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<v Speaker 2>the grace and mercy of.

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<v Speaker 1>Say that is not why I would argue to say

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<v Speaker 1>those things are not connected whatsoever. But but yeah, real breakers.

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy man, Yeah for sure. Okay, who's most likely to

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<v Speaker 2>deliver a TED talk that accidentally goes viral? That's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be you us. Oh yeah, you're a way better

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<v Speaker 2>speaker than me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, but you have you're the content guy. How about this?

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<v Speaker 1>How about this? You would help me develop the content

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<v Speaker 1>of a TED talk that I might deliver.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't. I'm too busy. You would do it. You're

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<v Speaker 2>on your own.

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<v Speaker 1>Good luck with that.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to do great.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you saying that, though I'm I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure that's true, But no, I have no doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Number four, who's most likely to turn a

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<v Speaker 1>five minute story into an epic trilogy? That is definitely both.

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<v Speaker 2>Of us, both of us.

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<v Speaker 1>That's going to say, yeah, but I honestly think you

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<v Speaker 1>have the slight edge.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I will take a story and make it

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<v Speaker 2>much longer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would take you have a slight edge. But

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, I would say barely.

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<v Speaker 2>But when when we start telling stories, what happens is

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<v Speaker 2>I tell a story and then you go that's nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you tell the story and I go, that's nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's how we would get the trilogy, would be

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<v Speaker 2>both of us.

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<v Speaker 1>That's funny. That is really funny. Well, we are definitely

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<v Speaker 1>like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So if we're at a dinner, oh man, it's dangerous.

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<v Speaker 2>We just did this. We did this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we sort of went back and forth, didn't we. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's sort of.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a dinner at my house. We had some

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<v Speaker 2>other friends over, and you and I got to telling

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<v Speaker 2>stories and and.

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<v Speaker 1>It turned into it that's nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So then we had to kind of change shift gears

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<v Speaker 2>that were And it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was so obvious. I'm like, hell, so do you guys

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<v Speaker 1>own a boat?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, so, so talk about yourselves a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, Look how awesome. We are. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>do you do anything interesting?

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<v Speaker 1>I know that, I know that. I don't mean it

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<v Speaker 1>that way, but that is probably how it comes across.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably across, all right, go ahead. Number five.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's most likely to win an argument using Shakespeare quotes?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you just you just read them.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just reading some Shakespeare quotes.

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<v Speaker 1>Too literally, right before we started recording.

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<v Speaker 2>I kept typing in different quotes to just make sure,

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<v Speaker 2>like the lady doth protest too much?

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<v Speaker 1>And yes those kinds, yes, yes, so that be you.

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<v Speaker 2>It was that when much ado about nothing. One of

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<v Speaker 2>the quotes was I will eat his heart in the marketplace.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, he's going to devour that guy publicly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was great. And then the one from Julius Caesar.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I remember you just quoted it. You said a

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<v Speaker 1>coward dies many deaths, but the valiants only die once.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, It's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that a great quote?

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great So that's great. So yeah, so that's you.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyways, you win Number five.

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<v Speaker 2>I have the of Julius Caesar of Shakespeare in a

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<v Speaker 2>leather bound book on my shelves. I had to read

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of Shakespeare in high school. That's great, and

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<v Speaker 2>re reading Shakespeare in the King James Bible. They were

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<v Speaker 2>both written in the sixteen hundreds and so it's very

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<v Speaker 2>very similar. We grew up to King James Bible. So

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<v Speaker 2>reading Shakespeare was easy. You know that these and the

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<v Speaker 2>dows wasn't a hard thing. Really, it was easy to

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<v Speaker 1>I read Shakespeare through a mediator called cliff.

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<v Speaker 2>Cliffs Notes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, cliffs notes, just.

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<v Speaker 2>A quick summary. Yeah, and now it's chet GTP chet

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<v Speaker 2>gbt A summarize Julius Caesar for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then read it to me. Yes, yeah, out

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<v Speaker 1>I sleep, Yeah, oh mercy, Okay, So hey, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>move on to our sigma or to our scripture for today.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're gonna leave that conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Woh, there it is.

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<v Speaker 2>U huh, there it is, and go to another conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>And do you think we'll leave that one too?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh? Well that's the question Jesus is gonna ask, do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to leave too? Yes, there's the terrible transition.

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<v Speaker 2>It was horrible. Yes, So we're gonna read quite a

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<v Speaker 2>few verses here, but this is a really powerful story.

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<v Speaker 2>In verse twenty five, it says they found him on

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<v Speaker 2>the other side of the lake.

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<v Speaker 1>John chapter six, John chapter six, Yes, you didn't say

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<v Speaker 1>John six.

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<v Speaker 2>John six, verse twenty five through sixty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, go ahead. Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>They found him on the other side of the lake

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<v Speaker 2>and ask Rabbi, when did you get here. Jesus replied,

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<v Speaker 2>I tell you the truth. You want to be with

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<v Speaker 2>me because I fed you, not because you understood the

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<v Speaker 2>miraculous science. But don't be so concerned about perishable things

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<v Speaker 2>like food. Spend your energy seeking the eternal life that

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<v Speaker 2>the son of Man can give you. For God, the

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<v Speaker 2>Father has given me the seal of his approval. They replied,

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<v Speaker 2>we want to perform God's works too, What should we do?

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus told them this is the only work God wants

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<v Speaker 2>from you. Believe in the one he has sent. They answered,

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<v Speaker 2>show us a miraculous sign. If you want us to

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<v Speaker 2>believe in you, what can you do? After all, our

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<v Speaker 2>bread every day. Jesus replied, I am the bread of life.

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<v Speaker 2>and believe in him should have eternal life. I will

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<v Speaker 2>raise them up that last day. Then the people began

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<v Speaker 2>But Jesus replied, stop complaining, about what I said, For

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<v Speaker 2>day I will raise them up. As it is written

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<v Speaker 2>in the scriptures, they will all be taught by God.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone who listens to the Father and learns from him

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<v Speaker 2>I tell you the truth. Anyone who believes has eternal life. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>who eats this bread will live forever. And this bread,

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<v Speaker 2>flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I

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<v Speaker 2>my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyone who eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains

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<v Speaker 2>I am the true Bread that came down from heaven.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyone who eats this bread will not die as your

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus was aware that his disciples were complaining, so he

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<v Speaker 2>to heaven again. The spirit alone gives eternal life. Human

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<v Speaker 2>effort accomplishes nothing. And the very words I have spoken

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<v Speaker 2>to you are spirit and life. But some of you

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<v Speaker 2>do not believe me. For Jesus knew from the beginning

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<v Speaker 2>which ones didn't believe, and he knew who would betray him.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he said, that is why I said that people

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<v Speaker 2>At this point, many of his disciples turned away and

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<v Speaker 2>deserted him. Then Jesus turned to the twelve and asked,

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<v Speaker 2>are you also going to leave? Simon Peter said, Lord,

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<v Speaker 2>to whom would we go? You have the words that

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<v Speaker 1>I love that question, Lord, to whom shall we go?

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<v Speaker 1>You have the words of a life. It reminds me

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<v Speaker 1>of the Old Testament scripture is what God is as

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<v Speaker 1>great as our God? You know? To whom shall we run? To?

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<v Speaker 1>Right those concepts? He looks and says, do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to leave too? And that is the title of the segment.

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<v Speaker 1>you want to leave too? And what Jesus is asking

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<v Speaker 1>is actually an extremely relevant question because whenever there is

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<v Speaker 1>a truth that offends, then then the question is, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>are you going to love me, believe me, follow me enough?

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<v Speaker 1>To continue on or are you going to get offended

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<v Speaker 1>and leave? Think about how many Christians you know they're

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<v Speaker 1>in for all the they're in for all the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they do the Bible buffet, they love all the happy truths.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you know they take what they want and

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<v Speaker 1>then right, and then you say.

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<v Speaker 2>Like this and this and this, I just don't like.

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<v Speaker 1>That or that, right, right, right? And then and then

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<v Speaker 2>Read the Bible with an eraser in your hand.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And then you have a verse that says remain

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<v Speaker 1>sexually pure, and they go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, not

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<v Speaker 1>on that. And and it's like, hey, does this offend you?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you gonna do? You want to leave? Also? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>And so the and there's a couple of different things

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<v Speaker 1>about this passage number one. He says some of the

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<v Speaker 1>disciples turned and left, and on the on the surface,

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<v Speaker 1>people may think he was referring to the twelve disciples, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But then he says he turned to the twelve, which

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<v Speaker 1>means the twelve are still there, right. And the word

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<v Speaker 1>disciple is actually used for anybody who's a follower of

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus so sometimes there may be hundreds of followers, and

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<v Speaker 1>he referred to the crowds the followers as disciples. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why you and I could be referred to as disciples,

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<v Speaker 1>but the twelve were actually the title was apostles. So

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<v Speaker 1>so not every disciple is an apostle, but yet every

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<v Speaker 1>apostle is a disciple.

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<v Speaker 2>That's correct.

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<v Speaker 1>So so it's it's a little confusing sometimes because sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>Well they started off his disciples. They weren't apostles until.

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<v Speaker 1>Until later on, right right, but they were the twelve

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<v Speaker 1>in this case, there was twelve capital T right right.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, that was something that stood out to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And and then I have a lot to say here,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead. I used to work for a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>context all the time. Where Jesus looked at the disciples

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<v Speaker 1>and said, the only thing that God requires of you

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<v Speaker 1>the work, the only work of God that you require

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<v Speaker 1>believe now the way that I take this, and by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, I don't just take it as in my

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<v Speaker 1>to believe. That's it. You don't have to do anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>And all of a sudden, it was translated, is in

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<v Speaker 1>long as you believe, you know, it's almost like as

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<v Speaker 1>a Christian, you're not required to evangelize, you're not required

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<v Speaker 1>to do this, you're not required to obey, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>only thing that's really required. And I'd say, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that is not how Jesus meant it. What he is

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<v Speaker 1>saying is if a person truly believes, then everything else

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<v Speaker 1>will naturally come. Because if you don't believe, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to act right. So if you believe the chair

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't believe the church is gonna hold you,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't sit. So belief is the only thing that's required,

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<v Speaker 1>true belief, because if you have true belief, everything else

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<v Speaker 1>I won't have to talk to you to doing anything right.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll just naturally do all the things that you believe

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<v Speaker 1>are true. You believe, you'll have the right perspective, you

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<v Speaker 1>the priorities, you'll have everything in place because the only

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<v Speaker 1>thing that's required belief. Because what happens the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the chapters, he said he knew who didn't believe, and

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<v Speaker 1>he knew who believed. He knew that some would walk away,

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<v Speaker 1>he knew that some would follow. He knew their hearts.

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<v Speaker 1>And so he's saying, the only thing that's required is belief,

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<v Speaker 1>But that does not exempt.

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<v Speaker 2>Us belief in the one he sent.

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<v Speaker 2>Believe in Christ? Yeah, the one that God the Father sent?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, yes, yes, And anyway, all that to say,

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if I truly believe what in Christ, the one

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<v Speaker 2>who God sent, then what does that mean? What does

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<v Speaker 2>it mean to really believe Jesus?

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<v Speaker 2>At this point, Jesus hadn't died. Now he's talking about

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<v Speaker 2>So he's talking about his death later. But when he

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<v Speaker 2>so believing Jesus means I believe your words. I believe

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<v Speaker 2>what you say. I believe you are who you say

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<v Speaker 2>if you love me, keep my commandments right. So so

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<v Speaker 2>this belief goes beyond just just a belief that I

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<v Speaker 2>believe Jesus existed. You know, the Bible tells us the

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<v Speaker 2>devil believes right, right, the devil believes that Jesus existed.

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<v Speaker 2>So surely Jesus saying, believe in the one he has

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<v Speaker 2>that he was a real person. There's this I believe

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<v Speaker 2>that he is the Messiah, the son of the Living God.

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<v Speaker 2>This is where Peter begins to head towards in that

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<v Speaker 2>statement here when he says, well else are we going

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<v Speaker 2>to go? Later on, Jesus said, who do you guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Say I am, and Peter says, you are the You're

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<v Speaker 2>the Messiah, You're the son of the Living God, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And Jesus goes there you go, buddy, yeah, right, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a whole other thing from what the devil was saying,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, believes And then and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think that other big thing that's in this passage that

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<v Speaker 1>is so glaring that needs to be addressed. What's that is, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>is drinking blood and eating flesh. You know, it's so

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<v Speaker 1>interesting how Jesus uses metaphors throughout the whole entire Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>Just last podcast we said, uh oh no, two podcasts ago,

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<v Speaker 1>we said, he says I'm the gate right, right, but

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<v Speaker 1>we know that Jesus wasn't a physical gait, right, that's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty weird. Jesus said I'm the rock. Jesus said, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the door. You know. Jesus said, I'm the bread. Jesus,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the light, I'm the shepherd. He wasn't a shepherd.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus wasn't any of those things, right, But he but

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<v Speaker 1>the metaphorically, Well, here's what he's saying. He's saying, just

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<v Speaker 1>as the children of Israel in the wilderness has physical

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<v Speaker 1>salvation from the miraculous provision of the bread. Actually the mana,

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<v Speaker 1>which is sort of like a what is it bread

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<v Speaker 1>like substance, yet literally translates into what is it? Which

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<v Speaker 1>is great? But you love that translation. The word mana

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<v Speaker 1>literally means what is it? Anyway? But we assume it's

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<v Speaker 1>something like bread, right, but anyway or to bully right.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be well, Jesus is referring to it as bread.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's right. And then he's saying and then

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<v Speaker 1>he's saying, in the same way, the sacrifice that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to give you on the cross is the bread

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<v Speaker 1>of life for spiritual salvation. So there's a physical salvation

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's a spiritual salvation. By the way, not

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<v Speaker 1>very much different than him saying I have living water

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<v Speaker 1>to the woman at the well. Right, Hey, if you

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<v Speaker 1>drink this water, you'll be satisfied, but you'll thirst it

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<v Speaker 1>again eventually. That's temporary. But if you drink of the

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<v Speaker 1>living water, you'll never thirst again. It doesn't mean that

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus was water. It doesn't mean he's literally saying I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna grind up my flesh and blood and turn it

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<v Speaker 1>into water and have you drink it. And so Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>was not, I repeat not, saying that there has to

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<v Speaker 1>be a physical consumption of physical flesh and blood. And

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why I'm emphasizing that so much you already

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<v Speaker 1>know the reason why, because some people interpret that as communion.

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<v Speaker 1>When Jesus broke the bread and he says, this is

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<v Speaker 1>my body, and he pours the cup and says this

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<v Speaker 1>is my blood. And they're like and they're like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well I was taught that you know that that that

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<v Speaker 1>the religious figure had the power to literally, uh transform

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<v Speaker 1>the Eucharist into uh uh actual flesh and actual blood.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, this is a staple for an

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<v Speaker 1>entire world religion. Yeah, I mean, this is the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that they say differentiates them from everybody else. And uh

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<v Speaker 1>and yet what we understand is is that Jesus, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all the way throughout the New Testament, uh didn't did

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<v Speaker 1>not listen. It's just it's just it's a little silly

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<v Speaker 1>to believe I shouldn't say that that sounds disrespectful I have,

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<v Speaker 1>I have.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a misinterpretation of yes, so it's a it's a

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<v Speaker 2>false connection between this passage and the Last Supper passages.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't mean to say silly. I have tried. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>who knows me knows I have tremendous respect, Yes, tremendous

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<v Speaker 1>respect for different world religions and the good that they

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<v Speaker 1>have brought. Right, but this is a very big differentiation.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, so Jesus is saying here that your

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<v Speaker 2>my life has to become yours. That's right right. The

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<v Speaker 2>life is in the blood is what the Book of

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<v Speaker 2>Deuteronomy says. It's what Hebrews quotes. He's saying that my

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<v Speaker 2>life has to become yours, and that is received by faith.

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<v Speaker 2>He's already doult that. Another passage where he references eating

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<v Speaker 2>bread with the devil, he said, man shall not live

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<v Speaker 2>by bread alone, but by every word that comes from

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<v Speaker 2>in the mouth of God.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you you still need to eat physical

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<v Speaker 2>bread or you're gonna die, right right. So he's talking

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<v Speaker 2>on a spiritual level. There's a spiritual conversation about bread.

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<v Speaker 2>There's another time when they come and they tell Jesus, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>why don't you come and eat with us? And Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>has been spending time with the Father, and he says,

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<v Speaker 2>I have bread that you know, not of what's he's

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<v Speaker 2>been hiding bread? Right, he's sneaking out My brother, my

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<v Speaker 2>brother when we were we had bunk beds, and my

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<v Speaker 2>brother used to steal Swiss cake rolls, the whole boxes

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<v Speaker 2>and hide underneath the bed. He'd have cookies under the

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<v Speaker 2>bed and I'd be like, hey, Mark, Mark, can I

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<v Speaker 2>have some cookies? He's like I don't have any cookies,

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<v Speaker 2>Like what, I know you got cookies, right, And he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have the cookies. I said, that's it. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to tell mommy, Oh I got these cookies. I

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<v Speaker 2>have bread that you know. What was Jesus hiding out

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<v Speaker 2>on bread or is he talking about something spiritual?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Napoleon, Napoleon, give me your tots, right exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So when he's talking to the devil and he says,

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<v Speaker 2>man shall not live by bread alone, but by every

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<v Speaker 2>word that comes from the mouth of God, he's talking

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<v Speaker 2>about a spiritual When he's talking about I have bread

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<v Speaker 2>that you know not of he's not talking that he's

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<v Speaker 2>got secret bread somewhere, that's right. He's talking that he

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<v Speaker 2>has a spiritual connection that's feeding his soul. Right, And

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<v Speaker 2>so this is the same. This is what he's saying

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<v Speaker 2>is you have to have a spiritual connection to my life, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And and that's that's the issue. And so then we

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<v Speaker 2>receive communion and remembrance of right, this spiritual connection, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what first is eleven tells us, right, Right, So where

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus said, do this in remembrance of me, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>it's a spiritual connection that we're remembering because of what

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus did, uh in his body and with his blood.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, and no, and nowhere in the scripture does

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<v Speaker 1>that line up with anything else. So the so you

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<v Speaker 1>know that that there's no transubstantiation transforming, uh, you know

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<v Speaker 1>elements there there is a symbolism of Jesus saying, and

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, that's not the one last observation. And

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<v Speaker 1>let's not forget that when they were eating the last

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<v Speaker 1>supper that was that was the passover feast, right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And when you had the passover feast or any meal

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<v Speaker 1>for that matter, Uh, it meant something for you to

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<v Speaker 1>accept an invitation by somebody's house. It meant that you

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<v Speaker 1>approved of them. It meant that when they give you something,

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<v Speaker 1>if you had disrespect for that person, you refuse to eat.

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<v Speaker 1>Even to accept something is to accept that person that household.

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<v Speaker 1>All of all of the eating with somebody, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>inviting somebody over all, that was very significant. And so

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<v Speaker 1>therefore when Jesus says, eat of the bread that I

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<v Speaker 1>give you, is it is an accepting of who's offering

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<v Speaker 1>it as the host. And Jesus is saying, this is

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<v Speaker 1>my gift of salvation, and once again, it lines up

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<v Speaker 1>with the symbolism of every other scripture that Jesus uses.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, this is the reason why we believe

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<v Speaker 1>that communion. It remains bread and it remains the cup

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<v Speaker 1>because that's what Jesus said.

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<v Speaker 2>And so the famous quote for this podcast today is

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<v Speaker 2>the do you want to leave? Too? So they start

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<v Speaker 2>off saying, hey, Jesus, give us some more food. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>you're only following me because I fed you last time.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're like, hey, let us do some magic tricks

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<v Speaker 2>like you do. We want to do miracles too, And

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, if you believe, what are you guys doing right?

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<v Speaker 2>And then finally at the end, they all leave, So

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<v Speaker 2>many of them leave, and Jesus is disappointed, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of challenging the twelve that stay and some of

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<v Speaker 2>the other followers. You know, why are you really following me?

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that that's a challenge to every one

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<v Speaker 2>of us.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Am I following him because of the cool stuff he

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<v Speaker 2>might do for me? Or Am I following him because

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<v Speaker 2>I genuinely don't have anywhere else to go. Jesus is

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<v Speaker 2>my only way to heaven?

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<v Speaker 1>That's right? And he's the Lord. He's the Lord, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So whether he says good things are bad things, things

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<v Speaker 1>that a like or don't like, to whom else shall

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<v Speaker 1>we go? Right? Right? So it's a great question do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to leave too? It's a question everybody should

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<v Speaker 1>ask themselves. That's right, all right. Well, hey, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>good place to end, and we are out of time

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, so we'll see you next time on the Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys,