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But balance"},{"speaker":"Henny Flynn","startTime":2730.3,"endTime":2737.23,"body":"that out with the compassion, of"},{"speaker":"Henny Flynn","startTime":2730.3,"endTime":2737.23,"body":"softening into ourselves when"},{"speaker":"Henny Flynn","startTime":2737.38,"endTime":2744.79,"body":"we're facing into things that"},{"speaker":"Henny Flynn","startTime":2737.38,"endTime":2744.79,"body":"feel tough for us. So, you know,"},{"speaker":"Henny Flynn","startTime":2744.79,"endTime":2750.91,"body":"I'm very mindful as well as"},{"speaker":"Henny Flynn","startTime":2744.79,"endTime":2750.91,"body":"ever, that this stuff can"},{"speaker":"Henny Flynn","startTime":2750.97,"endTime":2755.83,"body":"activate feelings, thoughts"},{"speaker":"Henny Flynn","startTime":2750.97,"endTime":2755.83,"body":"within us, maybe old stories,"},{"speaker":"Henny Flynn","startTime":2755.83,"endTime":2760.48,"body":"old memories. 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I"},{"speaker":"Henny Flynn","startTime":2787.36,"endTime":2792.64,"body":"think that's where her group"},{"speaker":"Henny Flynn","startTime":2792.64,"endTime":2796.39,"body":"begins, then you might be"},{"speaker":"Henny Flynn","startTime":2792.64,"endTime":2796.39,"body":"interested in the age of"},{"speaker":"Henny Flynn","startTime":2796.39,"endTime":2801.49,"body":"becoming group on Facebook. It's"},{"speaker":"Henny Flynn","startTime":2796.39,"endTime":2801.49,"body":"a really lovely space where"},{"speaker":"Henny Flynn","startTime":2801.49,"endTime":2807.28,"body":"Susan shares some of her wisdom,"},{"speaker":"Henny Flynn","startTime":2801.49,"endTime":2807.28,"body":"her philosophy and also shares"},{"speaker":"Henny Flynn","startTime":2807.28,"endTime":2813.16,"body":"the the movement practice that"},{"speaker":"Henny Flynn","startTime":2807.28,"endTime":2813.16,"body":"she offers as well. 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