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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Hey, everybody, welcome to the Bible Guys. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle and this is Chris Yes, and today we are

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<v Speaker 1>your Bible Guys because Jeff is out of town across

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<v Speaker 1>the world doing great work with the Timothy Initiative and

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<v Speaker 1>which you can google and learn about. But today we're

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<v Speaker 1>actually in the third day of the second week of

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<v Speaker 1>a series, the brand new series that we're talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>Dangerous Prayers, and today is actually the theme of this

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<v Speaker 1>week is surrender, Prayers of Surrender, which is pretty crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's been great, Yeah, it's been great. And then so

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<v Speaker 1>today before we get into that, we have a brand

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<v Speaker 1>new segment and this is pretty crazy. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever done this segment Like this. Desire is coming

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<v Speaker 1>up with new ideas all the time, and this one's

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<v Speaker 1>called Advice Booth.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so yeah, what we're gonna do here is we're

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<v Speaker 2>each going to give each other advice on a topic

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<v Speaker 2>and then we're gonna let the listeners vote. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>assuming that's gonna be through YouTube. Correct if you're watching

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<v Speaker 2>on YouTube or even if you're listening on Spotify.

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<v Speaker 1>Or who knows that nobody will do it, Kyle, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I bet they will, but I but I hope they.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you take just a second and respond to us,

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<v Speaker 1>because we love seeing feedback and I read.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you do too. I read the comments. I

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<v Speaker 2>love seeing this stuff, so this will be a chance

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<v Speaker 2>to get people's responses.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that I actually don't read the comments.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't know, do they always talk about I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even I don't even have it on my phone YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen since I've done a fab this is the episode

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<v Speaker 1>seven seventy three, and then HG Daily we did one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty episodes, so we've done like a thousand

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<v Speaker 1>episodes and I don't think I've ever once read a

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<v Speaker 1>single comment.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, well they're usually pretty favorable. I like you

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<v Speaker 2>a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's cool, but but I probably need to. I

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<v Speaker 1>probably need to. I probably should. But Jeff reads a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and so he tells you almost to like me spoilt. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, so now for this, you guys comments, let

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<v Speaker 2>us know who you think you gave it a better advice? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so advice booth. Here's the first one. How do you

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<v Speaker 2>stop hitting snooze in the morning? Give people some invites? Chris, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you do it. But if I

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<v Speaker 1>if that was my goal, if my goal is to

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<v Speaker 1>not hit snooze, then my life hack is I would

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<v Speaker 1>take whatever the alarm is and I would put it

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<v Speaker 1>far from the bed forced me to get out of

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<v Speaker 1>the bed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was Is that what you're gonna say? See,

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't talk about this beforehand, and so I was

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<v Speaker 2>worried we're going to steal each other's Hey.

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<v Speaker 1>But that that is that is the I mean, isn't

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<v Speaker 1>that the best one?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? Which shows yourself to get up.

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<v Speaker 1>Which shows that you and I are both intelligent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So you put it way across the room, so you

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<v Speaker 1>literally have to get up, yes, And so it's like

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<v Speaker 1>that that way, you're not gonna hit snooze at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And that's only if.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a promised snooze. So my daughter, God bless her,

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<v Speaker 1>we love her so much, Tory, she's so great. But

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<v Speaker 1>she'll set like six alarms on the horn.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, right, my daughters do that too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And so it's like it's like, oh, seven thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seven thirty five, seven forty seven forty five, So she

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<v Speaker 1>knows that she can hit uh, you know, off or

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<v Speaker 1>snooze or whatever. And uh and I'm just thinking, why

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<v Speaker 1>do you even want to play that game?

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<v Speaker 2>So I had a season of life. I cannot remember

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<v Speaker 2>the year, but it was not that one maybe within

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<v Speaker 2>the last ten years where I went probably a year

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<v Speaker 2>or two where I would snooze for an hour and

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<v Speaker 2>ten every morning. I would set my alarm early, and

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<v Speaker 2>I knew that I had up until this time, so

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<v Speaker 2>be an hour. For some reason, it was this weird thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed doing it. Okay, so since you stole what

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<v Speaker 2>I think is great advice, I'm going to give a

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<v Speaker 2>second potential option, which is to make your ring tone

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<v Speaker 2>so annoying and so loud that you don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>hear it again. That could be an o pack.

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<v Speaker 1>Give us an example, Kyle. Yeah, like what like like

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<v Speaker 1>like a song?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't know about a song? Yeah, I pick

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<v Speaker 2>a song, Okay, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be anything girly for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Shoot, yeah, I don't know. I think you'd have to.

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<v Speaker 1>Be like Friday Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what's that?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Was I persue, saying, the song, uh, something like something

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<v Speaker 2>black Rebecca Black, Friday, Yeah Friday, be up there. It

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<v Speaker 2>may be a show tune.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh, showtunes would do it for that would do it? No? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd lay there and be like the show too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's keep this time. But I think that could

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<v Speaker 2>be a good hack. Right, is put whatever the ring

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<v Speaker 2>tone is, or a song that's so annoying that it

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<v Speaker 2>forces you to get up because you don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>hear that ring tone again?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, good advice yep. And number two, number two,

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<v Speaker 1>what is the ultimate life hack for getting free food?

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<v Speaker 1>What a question? What is the ultimate life hack for

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<v Speaker 1>getting free food? You know what? I thought about this

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<v Speaker 1>for two seconds before we started filming, and I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>the only ideas that I can come up with are

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<v Speaker 1>all bad ideas.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good, then share your best bad idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, for instance, like I would never do any of

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<v Speaker 1>these things willingly because they're they're they're wrong, right, because

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<v Speaker 1>I can't think of a life hack to get free

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<v Speaker 1>food in an honest way, right, like, like, how could

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<v Speaker 1>you honestly get free food in an honest way?

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<v Speaker 2>I think an app would be an option. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>ever do food apps. No, no, okay. So for example,

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<v Speaker 2>I have friends of mine who are big into like

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<v Speaker 2>the McDonald's app if they you know, I know that

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<v Speaker 2>may not be everyone's Fortepe, but Taco Bell, McDonald there's

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<v Speaker 2>apps that allows you to get a lot of free food.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah really, yeah, okay, all right, that's one honest way

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<v Speaker 2>you could do it, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>But that means you have to spend a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>Get Sometimes sometimes they'll just be going there and it'll

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<v Speaker 2>be like with your ordernay, you get free French fries.

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<v Speaker 1>So free food, okay, all right, So that that is

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a hack.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, a way that you would say is a

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<v Speaker 2>bad advice.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay there, Yes, Well, let me tell you. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>tell you a story. When I was in the eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like it was like mid eighties, and there

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<v Speaker 1>was a really fancy restaurant our area called the Brown Derby. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And and and so we we Jeff and I and

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<v Speaker 1>my buddy would go in and we'd sit down, and

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<v Speaker 1>they bring us fresh bread and uh with and we'd say,

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<v Speaker 1>we just want waters, okay, And so they give us

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<v Speaker 1>ice water, and then we would sit down and we

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<v Speaker 1>would do the loaf of bread, eat bread and butter,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was so good. It was just this massive

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<v Speaker 1>piece of bread. And then they come over and they say,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you going to order? They say, oh, we

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<v Speaker 1>just want the bread.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, that's a good life hack.

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<v Speaker 1>And then and then they go what do you mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, we just want the bread. So they

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<v Speaker 1>brought us over another loaf of bread. They're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>well you have to order something. I'm like, no, we don't.

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<v Speaker 1>It's free. It's free bread. So can you please bring

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<v Speaker 1>us more free bread?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And we were sort of like, you know, sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, telling the waiter like, uh, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're I think you're obligated to bring us bread. So

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<v Speaker 1>the waiter agrees, so he brings us more bread, so

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<v Speaker 1>he literally waits on us. We go through like three

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<v Speaker 1>whole loaves of bread and butter like like wonderful bread,

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<v Speaker 1>drink the water, and then walk out without pan of dime.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we only did that like three times. Yeah, before

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<v Speaker 1>the management somehow caught on because apparently enough waiters complained.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the fourth time we went in there, we

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<v Speaker 1>sat down and they recognized us and they said, uh.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a charge for bread, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And they said it's like four ninety five or something

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not getting anything else. And I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they caught on, gotcha, gotcha, But that was my life act.

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<v Speaker 2>But I got It's not a terrible concept when you

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<v Speaker 2>consider the fact there's a lot of restaurants out there

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<v Speaker 2>that will almost fill you up before the food comes, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think of like Texas Roadhouse is one, yeah, I'll back,

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<v Speaker 2>or what's one place down roadhouse?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh don Horns, Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Long Horns takeout. That is great bread before you even

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<v Speaker 2>get the food.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, a lot of Mexican restaurants do free chips

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<v Speaker 1>and saws.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and there's my meal arrived. I'm like, I'm halfway

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<v Speaker 2>full before the food even got here. So all right,

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<v Speaker 2>that is a good life hacked. I'm gonna go with

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go with terrible advice. But I'll just say

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<v Speaker 2>because you, well, I guess yours is kind of like, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Mine's terrible. Yea, yeah, I would never do that today. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's bad advice. I would say the way that was

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<v Speaker 1>before I was a Christian, Oh that was that was

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<v Speaker 1>b C.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, mine, I would say is terrible advice, just for anybody,

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<v Speaker 2>Christian or non Christian, is just to put it all

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<v Speaker 2>on a credit card. Oh, just put a credit card.

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<v Speaker 1>Not free. Ultimately that's more expensive.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna be paying for it. Yeah yeah, yeah, seven

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<v Speaker 2>percent interest on the long run. No, but but for real,

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<v Speaker 2>i'd say the app you just say seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Percent, isn't that what it is? No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, they're a twenty five Okay, sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, like seven percent of the sales tax?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay. So I to just one thing about I Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>when I use my credit card, I try to pay

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<v Speaker 2>it off. And I think popest people should try to write.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you're gonna you're gonna you have to throw that.

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<v Speaker 2>In there, yes, because honestly, I didn't even know how much.

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<v Speaker 2>How much are they used it?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it depends, it depends. I was just gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have a seven percent interest on your credit card,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good card.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'd say hang on to that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's so funny is I will I will

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<v Speaker 1>do McDonald's and I'm good for like a year. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then and then it'll be literally a year later

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm a little bit I'm in the same boat.

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<v Speaker 2>But but I do know that a couple of years

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<v Speaker 2>So I have the app and actually does have a

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<v Speaker 2>good deal. So there's my life hack. Get the McDonald's out.

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what that was. That was difficult. It was

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<v Speaker 1>The teaching is about forgiveness and faith that we're about

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just say, you're doing a great job this week

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know what, good I've taken all three of

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So for.

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<v Speaker 1>The remainder of the week, I'm now announcing to our

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, sounds good. All right, that's difficult, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no, I've already done that.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Luke seventeen, verses one through six. The section

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<v Speaker 2>But what sorrow awaits the person who does the tempting.

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<v Speaker 2>one of these little ones to fall into sin. So

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<v Speaker 2>watch yourselves. If another believer sins, rebuke that person. Then

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<v Speaker 2>if there is repentance, forgive. Even if that person wrongs

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<v Speaker 2>you seven times a day, and each time turns again

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<v Speaker 2>and asks forgiveness, you must forgive. The apostles said to

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<v Speaker 2>Lord answered, if you had faith even as small as

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<v Speaker 1>Is that it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>There one through six.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep. Okay, So the dangerous prayer then, is just that

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>The apostles said, to the Lord, show us how to

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<v Speaker 1>increase our faith. And they said that, of course, in

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you were two thousand years post Jesus. And

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<v Speaker 1>so the concept of loving one another and loving your

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<v Speaker 1>and so it's not unusual. It's not mind blowing to

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<v Speaker 1>hear love your enemies. But isn't it odd and strange

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<v Speaker 1>It was a brand new thought, which is why Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>love your enemies, forgive those that persecute you. Right, And

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<v Speaker 1>would be there's there's social law, there's there's there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the ability to take revenge that you were

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<v Speaker 1>within your right a lot of times. You know, think

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<v Speaker 1>about the wild wild West, only only worse than that,

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<v Speaker 1>right where it's like you were allowed to it was justified. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember watching a movie, an old Western, where somebody

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<v Speaker 1>you saw it. He provoked it. You saw it, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was the only thing he needed, apparently, right, He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody here witnessed it, he provoked it. And I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>apparently that's okay, right, you know, killing somebody in the

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<v Speaker 2>Because because everybody saw it and can say, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody can say you were justified in what you were saying. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So the idea, the idea that Jesus would come along

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<v Speaker 1>in Luke chapter seventeen right here and say, okay, ready

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<v Speaker 1>for this. Somebody is going to offend you seven times

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<v Speaker 1>and you are probably you have probably grown up either

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<v Speaker 1>teaching you know, that your parents, or you're even your priest,

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<v Speaker 1>or your your pharisee, your local leader has taught you

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<v Speaker 1>to either hate them or to shun them, or to

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<v Speaker 1>excommunicate them, or to even get revenge on them. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here to tell you you are to forgive them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>even if they offend you seven times every single days.

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<v Speaker 2>This revolutionary idea. And I think for me, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>the thing that stands out right before that it talks

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<v Speaker 2>about he says of another believer sins, rebuke that person.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about you, but when you hear that

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<v Speaker 2>word rebuke, it's not It's not like a hot word.

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<v Speaker 2>You know a lot of times like rebuke, you're kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like, oh. But the point it makes in the

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<v Speaker 2>notes here in this Bible is here. It says Luke

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<v Speaker 2>to point out every sin we see. It means to

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<v Speaker 2>restoring that person's relationship with God and with fellow humans.

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<v Speaker 2>So that says, when you feel you must rebuke another

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<v Speaker 2>Christian for sin, check your attitudes before you speak. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you love that person? Are you willing to forgive. Unless

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<v Speaker 2>rebuke is tied to forgiveness, it will not help the

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<v Speaker 2>sinning person. I love that. If it's not tied to forgiveness,

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<v Speaker 2>it will not help the sinning person. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>what he's saying is, if you're going to go rebuke somebody,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not a bad thing. That's a good thing. Even

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<v Speaker 2>if you're receiving rebuke, it can be a good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But you have to really check your heart. If your

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<v Speaker 2>goal is to find mutual reconciliation to eventually lead to forgiveness.

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<v Speaker 2>If your goal is not that, then you're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to help the person and your heart's in the wrong place.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and a lot of Christians, a lot of Christians

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<v Speaker 1>miss this. Yeah, you know, one of the worst stories

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<v Speaker 1>And she said that one time the pastor was standing

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<v Speaker 1>turn around and go get a haircut. And when you

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<v Speaker 1>promise you when I say, I have a physical, visceral

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<v Speaker 1>reaction just telling that story. Right, so you know, that

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<v Speaker 1>guy's eternity, you know, could be at stake. He could

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<v Speaker 1>have walked away from God and everything else. Right, the

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<v Speaker 1>damage that that causes not only to that man's eternity,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying God still can't reach that boy,

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<v Speaker 1>but I am saying that I personally know the hundreds

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and then that person the pastor might have referenced,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and whatsover. It's it's a proverb about an

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<v Speaker 2>open rebuke. Yes, like, but people take that out of context, right,

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly that was my point. Rebuke you I'm gonna,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna. And it's like no if your heart is

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<v Speaker 2>I just I was just thinking about that. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that oftentimes people see the rebuke thing and it does

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<v Speaker 2>been used as as a justification for unkind or ungodly

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<v Speaker 2>or or hurtful words that are said and unproductive. Yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like it's like rebuke. Think about the purpose

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<v Speaker 1>of rebuke. So the purpose of rebuke is directly tied

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<v Speaker 1>to restoration, repentance, restoration, and everything else. So the purpose

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<v Speaker 1>of rebuke is not for the sake of rebuke. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like to all the Christians who type in caps,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, that's not the purpose of you know, your platform.

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<v Speaker 1>The purpose of your platform is for the purpose for

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<v Speaker 1>So I think of it about as effective as this.

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<v Speaker 1>And I actually said this literally, I just said this.

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<v Speaker 1>close in my mind. Well, just an unbelievable, over the

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder walking, there's the preacher on the microphone, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>They're true, but they're about as effective as you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm trying to think of an illustration of

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<v Speaker 1>to go back there and say, hey, thanks guy for

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<v Speaker 1>making all of us look like idiots. Yeah, thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>taking down all preachers are notch and making religion something

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<v Speaker 1>to avoid, and thank you for being the most ineffective

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<v Speaker 1>person in the world. And repel people. It's almost as

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<v Speaker 1>if your goal isn't to have people know the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost as if your goal is to repel people. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>guess what ready for this transition. That's the same person

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<v Speaker 1>who types in caps.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, no ifs, no ads, no butts. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>a Christian who all you do is just scream truth

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<v Speaker 1>on a platform on a social media platform. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care where your heart is. It's about as effective as

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<v Speaker 1>that guy out. I'm not kidding. That's true, right, because

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<v Speaker 1>the number of people you persuade is let me think,

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<v Speaker 1>carry the two zero.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, you think you're making an impact because you're

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<v Speaker 2>speaking the truth, But it doesn't matter. It's the way.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's the First Corinthians thirteen where it says, if

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<v Speaker 2>I speak in the tongues of men and ev angels

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<v Speaker 2>but have not love or don't have love, I'm only

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<v Speaker 2>a resounding gong or clinging symbol.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's literally, It's like it's your your approaches. You can

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<v Speaker 2>say right things, the wrong one and the wrong way

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<v Speaker 2>at the wrong time to the wrong people at the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong place. Okay, so what do you think about this?

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<v Speaker 2>So before that even he gets into this idea of

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<v Speaker 2>causing the little ones to stumble, and it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>sorrow awaits a person who does the tempting. It'd be

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<v Speaker 2>better to be thrown into the sea with a millstone

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<v Speaker 2>hung around your neck than to cause one of these

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<v Speaker 2>little ones to fall into sin. So watch yourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I I just I preached on this a

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<v Speaker 1>year ago I should say we did right across the campuses.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, we talked about how you know, there's this

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<v Speaker 1>there seems to be this righteous indignation that Jesus has

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<v Speaker 1>when it when it comes attached to children, especially right,

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<v Speaker 1>and so for those who prey on children or or

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<v Speaker 1>cause children to sin or stumble or you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>after all, think about all the times in the Bible

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<v Speaker 1>where God talks about us having the faith of a

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<v Speaker 1>childe right, He says, our goal is to have the

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<v Speaker 1>faith and innocence of a child. Even even to get

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<v Speaker 1>into heaven, the requirement is childlike faith. Yeah right, so

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<v Speaker 1>so so you know, think about innocence in the faith

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<v Speaker 1>of a child. There seems to be this h you know, protection,

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<v Speaker 1>protection and in a warning against those who take advantage

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<v Speaker 1>of those who you know can't help themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's I think it just shows obviously

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<v Speaker 2>God's heart for young people for sure that they are

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<v Speaker 2>the future, and also just the protection of them, not

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<v Speaker 2>just in a physical way, but also in this is

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<v Speaker 2>a spiritual that the things that you tempt them to

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<v Speaker 2>do or and especially in our culture nowadays, there's so much,

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<v Speaker 2>so many temptations out there for young people but also

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<v Speaker 2>I also think there's a possibility to that idea of

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<v Speaker 2>Missy here.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way at millstone is you know what that is?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's actually a little Yeah you want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about Does it have a little note in there?

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<v Speaker 1>Now go ahead read your not Yeah, that actually has

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<v Speaker 1>the note and explained it better than I would.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's great. It says. A hand mill is made

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<v Speaker 2>of two circular stones used for grain grinding grain the

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<v Speaker 2>grinding of grain using concave stones with flat grinding pieces

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<v Speaker 2>to depict the ancient art dating back says the stone

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<v Speaker 2>commonly uses black and the number of them. See we

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<v Speaker 2>get to the point here. The handmill was so important

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<v Speaker 2>in the life of the people that it was illegal

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<v Speaker 2>to take someone's millstone as a pledge against the payment

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<v Speaker 2>of a debt, for this would deprive the family of

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<v Speaker 2>the means of making flour for bread. These stones were

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<v Speaker 2>heavy enough to kill a man when thrown on his head,

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<v Speaker 2>as in the case of be Malecan judges, if tied

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<v Speaker 2>to the neck. They were also heavy enough to drown

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<v Speaker 2>a person the sea. So yeah, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeez, that's what And so Jesus says, ready for this

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<v Speaker 1>better it would be better for you to put a

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<v Speaker 1>millstone on your neck and jump into the sea than

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<v Speaker 1>to offend one of these littles drowning and cause them

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<v Speaker 1>to send So so yeah, a millstone, basically, I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to say, in a shortened version, it's a really

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<v Speaker 1>really heavy stone used to grind grain. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>times it would have a hole in the middle because

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<v Speaker 1>there'd be a string. So instead of rolling the stone,

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<v Speaker 1>they would pull the string and it would roll back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth, and it would separate the wheat from the chaff,

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<v Speaker 1>and it would it would do all these different kinds.

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<v Speaker 1>It was grind right basically to make flour and things

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<v Speaker 1>like this. So so yeah, a millstone was a very

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<v Speaker 1>useful thing, but very heavy.

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<v Speaker 2>And so yeah, and you know some of the little ones.

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<v Speaker 2>What if it's a little one in your faith. It

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<v Speaker 2>could be somebody who's a new believer. You mentioned earlier

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<v Speaker 2>about the story about somebody walking into church and their

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<v Speaker 2>hair being long. What if that person was open to

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<v Speaker 2>the idea of Jesus for the first time, or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>even recently accept the Christ in life. Then they come

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<v Speaker 2>and they're told. So I think that we have to

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<v Speaker 2>be very careful in how we handle per what Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>is saying protecting those who are younger in general, but

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<v Speaker 2>also younger in faith as well. Just protecting them, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>keeping an eye out for them, not tempting them, more

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<v Speaker 2>helping to show them the truth in love.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's no wonder why the disciples said, show us

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<v Speaker 1>how to increase our faith, because without the context, that

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<v Speaker 1>may seem like a detached and kind of a thought.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think, you know, based on what we said

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<v Speaker 1>earlier about the mentality of like forgiving somebody was a

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<v Speaker 1>brand new thought and right, so Jesus is saying forgive

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<v Speaker 1>them every time. I would imagine that disciples would be like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know how to do that, Like, like,

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<v Speaker 1>how would a person ever do that? That's the dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>prayer that they prayed. It's a prayer of surrender. It's like, okay, God,

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<v Speaker 1>you're giving us a truth that we don't want to hear.

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<v Speaker 1>You're giving us a truth that is extremely hard, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for us to even accept or get around because, after all,

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<v Speaker 1>those who offend are you know, if you're gonna use

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<v Speaker 1>the word offend, that seems like justifiable. And you're telling

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<v Speaker 1>me to forgive this person. So in order to do

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<v Speaker 1>that increase my faith, because I don't know how to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. And then Jesus of course responds and says,

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<v Speaker 1>if you had faith even as small as a mustard seed,

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<v Speaker 1>you would say to this mulberry tree, be uprooted and

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<v Speaker 1>be thrown in a seed. It would obey you. And

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<v Speaker 1>so he says faith as small as a mustard seed.

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<v Speaker 1>In other places he talks about it's the smallest of seeds.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever seen a mustard seed?

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<v Speaker 2>No number?

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<v Speaker 1>So if you take like a sunflower seed, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like it's three to four to five times

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<v Speaker 1>as big as a mustard seed, I mean, maybe even more.

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<v Speaker 1>A mustard seed is so incredibly small. And he says,

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<v Speaker 1>if you had faith as small as a mustard seed,

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting because it brings up that whole I've mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>this so many times before, but it brings up that

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<v Speaker 1>whole idea of it's not quantity of faith that Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>is referring to, it's quality of faith, right, because he says,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, right here, he's not saying you have to

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<v Speaker 1>have more faith. He's saying you have to have a

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<v Speaker 1>very small amount of true faith. Right. So that's why.

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<v Speaker 1>One of my favorite sayings is, it's not the size

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<v Speaker 1>of your faith that matters. It's the size of your God.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the quality of your faith that matters, not the quantity.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not the size of your faith that matters.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop saying I need more faith, more faith, more faith. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you just need some true faith.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right. I remember hearing about the mustard seed that

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<v Speaker 2>the thing that separates it is that it's alive and growing,

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<v Speaker 2>even though which is odd to think that it's so small,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's actually alive and growing. I think that faith

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<v Speaker 2>as long as your faith is alive and growing and

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<v Speaker 2>not dead and decreasing or stagnant, and that's what what

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<v Speaker 2>really is hoping hoping for it like a faith. It

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<v Speaker 2>could be small, like you're saying, but at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>as long as it's alive and growing. So yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's powerful.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and just a little bit of faith of saying,

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<v Speaker 1>like I believe in who God is. I believe one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent completely that God can give me the power

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<v Speaker 1>to forgive, right, you know, for people who can't even

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<v Speaker 1>imagine that. There's probably people listening right now who have

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<v Speaker 1>a really hard time forgiving. Maybe even your spouse. You

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<v Speaker 1>have a hard time forgiving your spouse. Maybe you're just

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<v Speaker 1>angry at your spouse for something, and it's and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a continual, chronic kind of a thing, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>you'd say, hey, will there ever be a day where

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<v Speaker 1>I could live with complete forgiveness and I could move

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<v Speaker 1>past this? Well, yeah, it takes a lot of work

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<v Speaker 1>to do that, right, because faith is a choice, or

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me, forgiveness is a choice. But you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>also a process that we should go through to allow

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<v Speaker 1>God to heal our hearts as well. But it is possible,

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<v Speaker 1>and God, through the power of the Holy Spirit, is

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<v Speaker 1>able to give you that power to live. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>life destined for you that is free of bitterness and hatred. There,

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<v Speaker 1>it really is. It is possible if you have that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of faith that God can do that for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Then that's how Jesus is responding. He's saying, just believe

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<v Speaker 1>because I can do it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great, so great insight.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Well, that's our time for today and so hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>we will see you tomorrow. Thanks for tuning in on

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible. Guys,