WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:03.680 You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a 2 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.440 couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in 3 00:00:06.559 --> 00:00:07.480 practical ways. 4 00:00:11.560 --> 00:00:14.759 Hey, everybody, welcome to the Bible Guys. Jeff, we are 5 00:00:14.880 --> 00:00:16.440 so glad to have you back. 6 00:00:16.559 --> 00:00:18.280 Man, it is good to be back. I've been gone 7 00:00:18.280 --> 00:00:18.800 a long time. 8 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:19.960 Well two full weeks. 9 00:00:20.000 --> 00:00:22.760 Yeah, yeah, I missed you. I missed you, Chris, I 10 00:00:22.800 --> 00:00:25.519 missed you. Every time I knew you were in the studio, 11 00:00:25.960 --> 00:00:27.039 I was just so sad. 12 00:00:27.359 --> 00:00:28.760 Yeah. 13 00:00:29.440 --> 00:00:32.560 Hey, Wesley called his his addition. You didn't know this, 14 00:00:33.000 --> 00:00:35.240 he said, he said, Bible Guys, Platinum Edition. 15 00:00:36.399 --> 00:00:40.000 I heard that. I heard. Yeah, so yeah, it's a 16 00:00:40.000 --> 00:00:40.600 big upgrade. 17 00:00:40.640 --> 00:00:43.039 Yeah that's great. That's right. Yeah, Well he's just. 18 00:00:43.159 --> 00:00:45.240 We couldn't afford the rent. So now it's back to Jeff. 19 00:00:45.320 --> 00:00:47.240 Well, when I said, when I said, that means it's 20 00:00:47.240 --> 00:00:48.880 an upgrade, he goes, No, no, no, it's an upgrade. 21 00:00:48.880 --> 00:00:51.159 And that's it. He goes. He goes, Jeff's the diamond Edition. 22 00:00:52.399 --> 00:00:52.600 Yeah. 23 00:00:52.840 --> 00:00:55.159 Hey, Kyle did a great job. Wessey did a great job. 24 00:00:55.200 --> 00:00:56.640 But we're glad to have you. 25 00:00:56.560 --> 00:00:58.320 Back, and it is good to be back. 26 00:00:58.520 --> 00:01:00.399 We are on the Heritage stage and we don't know 27 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:02.880 how long that's gonna last. But if you're watching and 28 00:01:03.079 --> 00:01:04.200 the studio looks different. 29 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:06.719 That's why we had some studio changes, Yes. 30 00:01:06.560 --> 00:01:09.000 Studio changes. Yeah, and we'll update you more on that. 31 00:01:09.480 --> 00:01:13.760 And also we are diving into a brand new series today. 32 00:01:14.439 --> 00:01:18.840 Yes, so we've gone through this is like, how many 33 00:01:18.879 --> 00:01:21.120 episodes have we done? Seven hundred and something. 34 00:01:20.879 --> 00:01:22.239 Else seven six today? 35 00:01:22.319 --> 00:01:22.480 Yeah? 36 00:01:22.560 --> 00:01:24.079 Yeah, yeah, something like that. Well that's the one that's 37 00:01:24.079 --> 00:01:28.560 playing today, right, right, yeah, while we're recording. Yes, So anyways, 38 00:01:28.560 --> 00:01:32.519 we're over seven hundred episodes, and we've gone through the 39 00:01:32.959 --> 00:01:37.840 entire New Testament, that's right, the entire Old Testament. Well, 40 00:01:37.879 --> 00:01:41.239 we went through highlight virtually the Old Testament, almost every 41 00:01:41.319 --> 00:01:43.120 verse of the New Testament, most of the Old Testament. 42 00:01:43.680 --> 00:01:47.480 Then we did every and we've also done all two 43 00:01:47.560 --> 00:01:49.680 hundred and fifty events in the Life of Jesus, that's right, 44 00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:51.719 And you just go on and on. I mean, we're 45 00:01:51.799 --> 00:01:53.719 very prolific, very prolific. 46 00:01:53.719 --> 00:01:57.159 We've also done verse by verse certain books of the 47 00:01:57.159 --> 00:01:57.879 Old Testament as well. 48 00:01:57.959 --> 00:01:58.159 Yeah. 49 00:01:58.200 --> 00:02:01.959 Yeah, so this one, I thought because I was trying 50 00:02:02.000 --> 00:02:03.719 to think about it, and I was talking with Dez 51 00:02:04.239 --> 00:02:07.359 and des Ray and I couldn't remember what it was 52 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:09.960 I committed to do. And because we had this big 53 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:13.560 planning meeting. Yeah, and I don't know, I slept since 54 00:02:13.560 --> 00:02:15.199 then or something. I do know if it rolled out 55 00:02:15.199 --> 00:02:18.120 my ears, it slept, yeah, yeah, and it rolled out 56 00:02:18.159 --> 00:02:21.000 my ears. I don't remember. So I was working on 57 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:23.599 this idea, and I was thinking, I'd really like to 58 00:02:23.599 --> 00:02:26.479 get back into talking about the teachings of Jesus. Sure, 59 00:02:26.599 --> 00:02:29.159 and then I thought, what if Jesus had his own podcast? 60 00:02:29.400 --> 00:02:32.479 Oh right, yeah, and so let's just take the sayings 61 00:02:32.520 --> 00:02:35.280 of Jesus. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. So we're 62 00:02:35.280 --> 00:02:37.240 just going to go through a bunch of the sayings 63 00:02:37.240 --> 00:02:38.560 of Jesus for the next several weeks. 64 00:02:38.560 --> 00:02:40.599 Can we call it Jesus's famous. 65 00:02:40.319 --> 00:02:41.840 Quotes Jesus Famous quotes? 66 00:02:41.919 --> 00:02:43.280 Yeah, famous quotes by Jesus. 67 00:02:43.280 --> 00:02:44.039 Famous quotes. 68 00:02:44.280 --> 00:02:45.479 Okay, very cool. 69 00:02:45.800 --> 00:02:49.080 They still work today, by the way, I'm a big fan, 70 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:50.479 big fan of them. 71 00:02:50.759 --> 00:02:52.919 They still work today. Yeah, that's funny. 72 00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:54.479 So that's what we're gonna do for the next I 73 00:02:54.479 --> 00:02:55.960 don't know, like ten twelve weeks something like. 74 00:02:56.000 --> 00:02:58.039 Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, so next three months you hang 75 00:02:58.080 --> 00:03:01.159 in there, oh no, no, twelve oh yeah, yeah, it is. 76 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:03.240 Well, I thought you met twelve episodes, but no, you 77 00:03:03.240 --> 00:03:03.800 met twelve. 78 00:03:03.639 --> 00:03:05.199 Weeks, ten or twelve weeks? 79 00:03:05.240 --> 00:03:06.360 Okay, okay, all. 80 00:03:06.400 --> 00:03:08.439 Right, So before we dive into that, we have a 81 00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:09.599 segment today. 82 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:14.280 Called mail bags, and both of our voices are struggling. 83 00:03:14.360 --> 00:03:15.400 So yes, reason why. 84 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:17.680 I couldn't get my harmonies up that was as high 85 00:03:17.680 --> 00:03:18.199 as I could go. 86 00:03:18.360 --> 00:03:22.120 Okay, So mail bags today here is. This is written 87 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:25.039 in called Stephen H or Steve Hyeah. 88 00:03:25.479 --> 00:03:28.120 Steve H says my wife and I love listening to 89 00:03:28.199 --> 00:03:32.039 you too every morning. Oh I've always wanted to send 90 00:03:32.039 --> 00:03:34.759 in a mail bag question, so I'm finally doing it. 91 00:03:34.800 --> 00:03:35.560 Oh, there you go. 92 00:03:35.759 --> 00:03:36.360 That's awesome. 93 00:03:36.360 --> 00:03:37.199 Congratulations. 94 00:03:37.319 --> 00:03:40.759 So here it is, as fellow pet owners dot dot dot, 95 00:03:41.120 --> 00:03:44.280 if your pet could talk, what do you think they 96 00:03:44.360 --> 00:03:45.680 might say about? 97 00:03:47.199 --> 00:03:47.400 Oh? 98 00:03:47.520 --> 00:03:50.159 No, okay, listen. 99 00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:52.719 First of all, Steve, I have never had that thought 100 00:03:52.759 --> 00:03:53.199 in my life. 101 00:03:53.240 --> 00:03:53.960 I have not either. 102 00:03:54.360 --> 00:03:55.960 Wow, what might they say about me? 103 00:03:56.479 --> 00:04:03.479 What for us? Yes, pet owners if your pets talk's. 104 00:04:01.840 --> 00:04:03.759 See okay, let me just start with the fact that 105 00:04:03.800 --> 00:04:07.680 I have cats, yes, and so cats are devious in nature. 106 00:04:07.719 --> 00:04:10.319 Have you ever seen those Have you ever seen those 107 00:04:10.319 --> 00:04:11.879 things where it says what a dog. 108 00:04:11.719 --> 00:04:14.159 Is thinking what a cat is thinking, yes, yeah, yeah. 109 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:17.680 Yeah, they're so funny. The dog is like, hey, you're home. 110 00:04:17.720 --> 00:04:19.839 I'm so happy, and give me a bone. And then 111 00:04:19.959 --> 00:04:23.199 and then the cat is like day number three hundred 112 00:04:23.199 --> 00:04:25.480 and eighty five of my captivity. 113 00:04:25.680 --> 00:04:30.800 It's like they refuse to fill my bowl. They're trying 114 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:31.399 to starve me. 115 00:04:31.639 --> 00:04:33.560 If I could eat them, I would, If I could 116 00:04:33.600 --> 00:04:34.040 eat them. 117 00:04:33.959 --> 00:04:34.360 I would. 118 00:04:34.839 --> 00:04:38.160 They never five hundred captivity And it says something like 119 00:04:38.879 --> 00:04:42.240 the attack me with the with the large vacuum or something. 120 00:04:42.839 --> 00:04:45.360 It's so funny because. 121 00:04:45.160 --> 00:04:47.879 Because they're just angry. Yes, yeah, cats are deep. 122 00:04:48.959 --> 00:04:51.680 They're sort of non appreciative, although you know they love you, 123 00:04:51.759 --> 00:04:55.800 they have affection, right, but they sort of are that way. 124 00:04:55.959 --> 00:04:57.360 They're independent. They don't need you. 125 00:04:58.279 --> 00:05:01.680 So uh well, I think. So I have two dogs, 126 00:05:01.879 --> 00:05:03.519 my wife, My wife and daughter have to go. 127 00:05:03.720 --> 00:05:05.319 And don't forget that. Don't forget their names. 128 00:05:05.319 --> 00:05:08.720 Gucci and Chanel. Right, that's your name. 129 00:05:08.720 --> 00:05:10.040 It's the least manly thing about it. 130 00:05:10.120 --> 00:05:18.000 Yeah, I know you're like hunting, dear, so Gucci Gucci 131 00:05:18.120 --> 00:05:21.360 is very emotional, and so I would say Gucci probably 132 00:05:22.399 --> 00:05:23.680 if he could talk to me, he'd want to make 133 00:05:23.680 --> 00:05:25.920 sure we're okay, are we okay? I mean, he looks 134 00:05:25.959 --> 00:05:27.959 deeply in your eyes, he gets up on your lap. 135 00:05:28.120 --> 00:05:31.079 He wants to make sure everything's okay right, And Chanel 136 00:05:31.120 --> 00:05:35.439 would be like, do you have any snacks? That's that's 137 00:05:35.439 --> 00:05:37.720 pretty much it. I don't know that Chanelle has any 138 00:05:37.759 --> 00:05:40.000 deep thoughts in her head at all. We can't teach 139 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:43.240 her any tricks, we can't. She's just she dumber in 140 00:05:43.279 --> 00:05:45.959 a box of rocks. But she's sweet. She's just dumb, 141 00:05:46.600 --> 00:05:49.160 but she just wants treats. But Gucci seems to be 142 00:05:49.360 --> 00:05:53.480 very dialed into the emotional temperature of the room all 143 00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:55.920 the time. So okay, I imagine he'd want to know, 144 00:05:56.120 --> 00:05:57.040 make sure we're okay. 145 00:05:57.240 --> 00:05:59.560 So excuse me, I have two cats. 146 00:05:59.560 --> 00:06:02.399 You're already board. We're five minutes into the episode board. 147 00:06:03.079 --> 00:06:04.360 I uh no, I uh. 148 00:06:04.519 --> 00:06:07.560 I used to have more cats, and uh and they've 149 00:06:07.560 --> 00:06:11.439 they've slowly, sadly, sadly enough, they've slowly sort of died 150 00:06:11.480 --> 00:06:13.680 because we got them all at the same time, and 151 00:06:13.720 --> 00:06:16.199 then one by one they've just sort of gave up 152 00:06:16.199 --> 00:06:19.319 the ghost. And so I'm now down to two. So 153 00:06:19.560 --> 00:06:22.439 uh so Max is like thirteen years old? 154 00:06:22.759 --> 00:06:23.160 Wow? 155 00:06:23.199 --> 00:06:26.199 And then I had one that went to twenty one. 156 00:06:26.279 --> 00:06:26.480 Yeah. 157 00:06:26.519 --> 00:06:28.360 Wow, Champlin twenty one champ. 158 00:06:28.439 --> 00:06:29.079 He was the champ. 159 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:29.839 He was the champ. 160 00:06:29.959 --> 00:06:32.160 Now that's like Guinness World Record, I know, I know. 161 00:06:32.319 --> 00:06:35.920 And then and then I uh, then I have Cleo, 162 00:06:36.519 --> 00:06:38.759 and Cleo is I think, like ten years old. 163 00:06:39.279 --> 00:06:39.800 Wow. 164 00:06:39.879 --> 00:06:43.879 So anyway, Max is getting old enough to where I 165 00:06:43.920 --> 00:06:47.000 think all he wants are treats all the time. So 166 00:06:47.040 --> 00:06:49.839 I think it's just feed me. Why do you starve me? 167 00:06:50.199 --> 00:06:52.240 And when you give him treats he throws up. Actually, 168 00:06:52.399 --> 00:06:54.480 oh nice, So because he's old enough to where he 169 00:06:54.519 --> 00:06:57.000 can't really handle it, so you give him more, you know, 170 00:06:57.240 --> 00:06:59.160 so what he wants is not good for him, right, 171 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:01.759 So it's just why why do you deny me treats? 172 00:07:01.879 --> 00:07:04.279 Is really sort of what he would say, wow, And 173 00:07:04.279 --> 00:07:09.519 then I would say Cleo would say, am I safe? 174 00:07:09.560 --> 00:07:09.839 Now? 175 00:07:10.360 --> 00:07:12.920 You know she spends like ninety percent of her time 176 00:07:13.040 --> 00:07:16.480 hidden under Liz's bed and she doesn't come out, and 177 00:07:16.480 --> 00:07:19.120 so we'll have a house guest. And and look, my 178 00:07:19.120 --> 00:07:21.959 mom and dad came in from osday weekend and I said, 179 00:07:22.600 --> 00:07:28.000 I guarantee you you're not going to see Cleo at all, 180 00:07:28.079 --> 00:07:30.279 not even once. And if you do it'll be a 181 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:34.720 miracle and you may see Cleo once. She'll hide and 182 00:07:34.759 --> 00:07:37.879 she only comes out like at midnight when everybody's gone 183 00:07:37.920 --> 00:07:40.160 to bed, and she'll sneak out and come down. 184 00:07:40.199 --> 00:07:43.439 If you're watching TV. Wow, I know terrible. 185 00:07:43.560 --> 00:07:44.199 It's terrible. 186 00:07:44.360 --> 00:07:45.680 And you know the reason why. 187 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:49.279 I think it's because of childhood trauma. She was thrown 188 00:07:49.319 --> 00:07:50.040 out of a car in a. 189 00:07:50.079 --> 00:07:53.040 Busy traffic, so she's trying to avoid that. 190 00:07:53.399 --> 00:07:55.920 Yeah, traumatized. 191 00:07:57.199 --> 00:08:01.399 And then somebody saved somebody saved the kitten on the 192 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:02.000 side of the road. 193 00:08:02.160 --> 00:08:02.319 Huh. 194 00:08:02.560 --> 00:08:04.920 She was just thrown out of a moving car and 195 00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:06.439 then we took. 196 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:08.120 Her, and you took her. You guys rescued her. 197 00:08:08.199 --> 00:08:08.639 That's right. 198 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:11.560 So I looked it up. Twenty one years was how 199 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:14.040 long your cat lived? Yeah, and this says the world 200 00:08:14.120 --> 00:08:16.680 record for the age of a domestic house cat is 201 00:08:16.720 --> 00:08:20.839 held by Creampuff, who lived an astounding thirty eight years 202 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:21.680 in three days. 203 00:08:21.800 --> 00:08:23.839 Oh my word. 204 00:08:24.240 --> 00:08:28.639 She was born August third, nineteen sixty seven and passed 205 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:32.399 on August six, two thousand and five, in Austin, Texas. 206 00:08:32.919 --> 00:08:35.440 That's the officially verified longevity champ. 207 00:08:36.440 --> 00:08:36.759 Wow. 208 00:08:36.799 --> 00:08:45.440 So your champ is chump Champ Jump that's right. The context. 209 00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:48.480 For context, the average lifespan of indoor cats typically falls 210 00:08:48.600 --> 00:08:51.559 between thirteen and twenty years. Yeah, so that's the average. 211 00:08:52.159 --> 00:08:56.320 The current oldest verified living cat is Flossie, which was 212 00:08:56.360 --> 00:09:03.279 born December twenty ninth, nineteen ninety five. So coming up 213 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:07.440 on thirty years. Wow, Yeah, it's impressives. 214 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:07.879 We go. 215 00:09:08.440 --> 00:09:12.240 So your champ was nothing, Well, i'll. 216 00:09:12.080 --> 00:09:12.519 Tell you what. 217 00:09:12.600 --> 00:09:15.200 We've had some we've had some pretty cool cats. I've 218 00:09:15.279 --> 00:09:16.639 liked my cats. 219 00:09:16.480 --> 00:09:22.480 Will yeah yeah, good talking about nothing and champs. Okay, 220 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:25.000 I've got nothing about either of those things. We've got 221 00:09:25.000 --> 00:09:27.759 to get into the we're trying to transition. 222 00:09:27.919 --> 00:09:30.679 Into this this speaking of champs, you know who is 223 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:31.840 the champ Jesus. 224 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:34.919 Jesus, Jesus is a champ. And he said, I'm going 225 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:38.399 to make you champion fishermen. No, no, no, that's not 226 00:09:38.399 --> 00:09:38.840 going to work. 227 00:09:38.919 --> 00:09:41.240 That's not gonna work. No, just leave it at that, okay, 228 00:09:41.639 --> 00:09:42.879 just take take the wind. 229 00:09:42.679 --> 00:09:46.480 All right. I'm sorry. So we are in this in 230 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:51.000 these like famous sayings of Jesus. Yes, right, and today 231 00:09:51.039 --> 00:09:53.519 there's lots of them. We're clearly not going to cover 232 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:55.799 them all. No, but we're just kind of there's this 233 00:09:56.000 --> 00:10:00.639 random selection of get to know Jesus, and and when 234 00:10:00.679 --> 00:10:05.240 he comes to his disciples, he has when he's picking 235 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:08.519 them at the beginning of his ministry, he's choosing his disciples, 236 00:10:08.840 --> 00:10:12.600 he has a really clear vision of what he wants 237 00:10:12.600 --> 00:10:15.799 for them. And so in Matthew chapter four, verse seventeen, 238 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:18.879 it says, from then on Jesus began to preach repent 239 00:10:18.919 --> 00:10:22.159 of your sins and turned to God, for the Kingdom 240 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:24.200 of Heaven is near. That was his message. That's what 241 00:10:24.240 --> 00:10:27.200 he's preaching. So one day, as Jesus was walking along 242 00:10:27.279 --> 00:10:29.360 the shore of the Sea of Galilee, he saw two brothers, 243 00:10:29.399 --> 00:10:33.000 Simon also called Peter and Andrew, throwing a net into 244 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:35.840 the water, for they fished for a living, and Jesus 245 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:37.840 called out to them, come follow me, and I will 246 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:40.639 show you how to fish for people. And they left 247 00:10:40.639 --> 00:10:43.600 their nets at once and followed him. A little further 248 00:10:43.679 --> 00:10:46.000 up the shore, he saw two other brothers, James and John, 249 00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:49.159 sitting on the boat with their father's zebede, repairing their nets, 250 00:10:49.159 --> 00:10:52.279 and he called to them too, and they immediately followed him, 251 00:10:52.639 --> 00:10:57.000 leaving the boat and their father behind. So there you go. 252 00:10:57.159 --> 00:10:58.759 So what is the famous quote. 253 00:10:59.240 --> 00:11:02.080 The famous quote come follow me, and I'll show you 254 00:11:02.120 --> 00:11:04.639 how to be fishers of men or this this translation 255 00:11:04.679 --> 00:11:05.519 says fish for people. 256 00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:09.200 Yes, now you remember that song. I will make you 257 00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:13.080 fishers of men, fishers and men, fishers of men. 258 00:11:13.720 --> 00:11:17.879 I will make you no fishers have been if you follow. 259 00:11:18.360 --> 00:11:20.440 Me, okay, yeah, at least get to the following me. 260 00:11:20.519 --> 00:11:21.240 Okay, okay. 261 00:11:21.679 --> 00:11:24.720 So so yeah, so that's a song in what Sunday school? 262 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:26.120 If you grew up with a Sunday. 263 00:11:25.919 --> 00:11:30.120 School, that's right, and then uh and then yeah, anyway, 264 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:32.639 the point is I was gonna tell you children's story, 265 00:11:32.639 --> 00:11:34.799 but that's okay. I did children's ministry. Did you do 266 00:11:34.879 --> 00:11:35.320 children's men? 267 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:35.600 Yes? 268 00:11:35.679 --> 00:11:38.960 Yes, yes, yeah, so so I have all those child 269 00:11:39.039 --> 00:11:39.679 songs in my head. 270 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:42.559 Yeah yeah. I had my number one rule when I 271 00:11:42.679 --> 00:11:47.000 was a children's worker was no crying. I would tell 272 00:11:47.039 --> 00:11:49.080 the kids that, all right, what's pastor Jeff's number one rule? 273 00:11:49.159 --> 00:11:52.799 And then all yo, no crying? Is that right? Yep? 274 00:11:53.120 --> 00:11:57.399 Oh my goodness. That means you made them cry a lot. 275 00:11:57.480 --> 00:11:59.879 No no, no, no, they didn't cry, stop crying out. 276 00:12:00.360 --> 00:12:02.840 They placed each other. Yeah, a pastro justtion on one rules, 277 00:12:02.879 --> 00:12:04.679 we don't cry. 278 00:12:04.679 --> 00:12:07.159 Okay. So I was children's director well off and on. 279 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:09.360 I mean, you know, like I had volunteers that took 280 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:12.240 that role. But I was over children's ministry for like 281 00:12:12.519 --> 00:12:15.080 eight years, and I'm not sure I've ever had a 282 00:12:15.159 --> 00:12:17.919 problem with anybody crying. Yeah, why'd you have to create 283 00:12:17.919 --> 00:12:19.120 a number one rule about it? 284 00:12:19.279 --> 00:12:22.799 Yeah, Cuse I didn't want any crying. Wow, the little winers, 285 00:12:22.840 --> 00:12:25.200 they want to go home, they want their mommy, dad, whatever. 286 00:12:26.440 --> 00:12:28.480 I don't think I was wired for children's ministry. 287 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:30.440 Well, my church was also a small church. We kind 288 00:12:30.480 --> 00:12:33.000 of knew each other too, right, so you know, we 289 00:12:33.039 --> 00:12:34.080 just leveraged the relationship. 290 00:12:34.080 --> 00:12:35.559 I'm going to call your mom in here. 291 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:37.919 I was. I was running on a wana program that 292 00:12:38.039 --> 00:12:40.000 had like two hundred and fifty kids in it. 293 00:12:40.519 --> 00:12:42.320 Wow. Okay, so that's a little bit different. Yeah yeah, 294 00:12:42.440 --> 00:12:42.960 yeah yeah. 295 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:46.279 And he had everything from like kindergarten to sixth grade. 296 00:12:46.519 --> 00:12:46.840 Yeah. 297 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:50.559 So I ran a vacation Bible school. My biggest that 298 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:52.799 I've ever had with kids. I ran a vacation Bible 299 00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:55.759 school in the year of nineteen ninety eight, and I 300 00:12:55.840 --> 00:12:58.399 had it was it was a fair theme, like a 301 00:12:58.600 --> 00:13:01.639 like a like a festival carnival kind of theme, and 302 00:13:01.879 --> 00:13:04.720 we had five hundred kids in the parking lot with 303 00:13:04.759 --> 00:13:09.120 a bunch of carnival made makeshift carnival rides, and it 304 00:13:09.159 --> 00:13:11.759 was kind of cool. And our auditorium only held three hundred, 305 00:13:12.440 --> 00:13:15.600 so we had standing wall to wall all the way 306 00:13:15.600 --> 00:13:19.240 into the lobby, hundreds of people for the message. 307 00:13:19.279 --> 00:13:19.559 It was. 308 00:13:19.600 --> 00:13:24.039 It was probably the highlight of that of that what 309 00:13:24.600 --> 00:13:26.759 of my eight years there, that was that was the 310 00:13:26.759 --> 00:13:27.440 most we've ever had. 311 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:28.759 It was kind of cool. 312 00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:33.919 So to give some background on this this story, these 313 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:37.559 guys already knew Jesus. Yeah, right, Peter and Andrew already 314 00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:40.519 knew Jesus. James and John already knew Jesus because they 315 00:13:40.559 --> 00:13:45.759 were also part time followers of John the Baptist. And 316 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:51.200 so in John chapter one, it tells us that Peter 317 00:13:51.279 --> 00:13:56.279 and Andrew had already had an interaction with Jesus and that 318 00:13:56.320 --> 00:13:59.559 they had and then when Jesus called them, they knew 319 00:13:59.600 --> 00:14:01.840 who he was. They knew that John the Baptist said, 320 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:03.240 this is the Lamb of God who's going to take 321 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:06.519 away the sins of the world. They had see, perhaps 322 00:14:06.600 --> 00:14:10.720 been witnesses to his baptism. You know, the dove, the 323 00:14:10.720 --> 00:14:13.720 Holy Spirit descends from heaven, the voice from God, said, 324 00:14:13.759 --> 00:14:15.840 the Father says, this is my beloved, soigning whom I'm 325 00:14:15.879 --> 00:14:19.799 well pleased. So they had an awareness of who Jesus is, 326 00:14:22.080 --> 00:14:26.960 and that is like, hey, we're big fans. Good job, Jesus. 327 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:29.120 We think you're a good guy. But I don't know 328 00:14:29.120 --> 00:14:32.559 that they'd ever contemplated I'm going to quit my business. 329 00:14:32.720 --> 00:14:35.720 Peter was a business owner, right, As a matter of fact. 330 00:14:35.960 --> 00:14:39.679 At one point it mentions Peter and James and John 331 00:14:39.720 --> 00:14:41.440 and Andrew and all those us and that there were 332 00:14:41.559 --> 00:14:44.879 multiple boats, many boats. So this is like a fishing operation. 333 00:14:45.000 --> 00:14:47.440 These aren't two guys out there with a pole in 334 00:14:47.480 --> 00:14:50.679 the water. These are guys that are running a fishing 335 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:54.399 operation with nets and men and boats and all this stuff. 336 00:14:54.559 --> 00:14:56.360 And so Jesus asked him, I want you to leave 337 00:14:56.399 --> 00:15:00.240 your business and come and follow me. And I'm going 338 00:15:00.279 --> 00:15:01.879 to make you fishers of men. I think what he's 339 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:04.879 doing is he's giving purpose to their life. You know, Uh, 340 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:08.679 you're fishing for fish. You know, okay, good, that's necessary. 341 00:15:08.879 --> 00:15:10.559 But let me let me give you something that's even 342 00:15:10.639 --> 00:15:11.600 more important than that. 343 00:15:11.879 --> 00:15:14.559 Right and uh, and and by the way, that's a 344 00:15:14.600 --> 00:15:16.879 great message, because I want to talk about something else. 345 00:15:16.919 --> 00:15:17.080 Too. 346 00:15:17.080 --> 00:15:20.039 But let's not get off of that topic right away, 347 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:25.000 because we understand that if you make widgets for a living, yeah, 348 00:15:25.519 --> 00:15:28.720 and you make a great you know, salary, and you 349 00:15:28.759 --> 00:15:31.399 provide for your family. Uh, those are important things. 350 00:15:31.480 --> 00:15:33.679 That's important and exactly right, and we we. 351 00:15:33.639 --> 00:15:37.200 Can find purpose in those things. We could provide excellent 352 00:15:37.240 --> 00:15:40.879 customer service, We could help humanity, uh, you know, and 353 00:15:40.879 --> 00:15:42.519 and and so we can try to find you know, 354 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:45.440 and and and even if widgets are just for fun 355 00:15:45.799 --> 00:15:47.679 and they're not essential and you don't feel like you're 356 00:15:47.720 --> 00:15:51.480 helping humanity, you're still providing for your family. So right, 357 00:15:51.600 --> 00:15:54.519 But that's the reason why a lot of people get 358 00:15:54.559 --> 00:15:57.039 to the end of their lives and even though they 359 00:15:57.120 --> 00:15:59.240 spent their life making money and they you know, they 360 00:15:59.279 --> 00:16:02.399 could even be successful at it, they sort of transition. 361 00:16:02.600 --> 00:16:05.039 And what they do is they go from what is 362 00:16:05.039 --> 00:16:08.200 it into significance. It's the search for significance. 363 00:16:08.360 --> 00:16:10.919 That book, Yeah, from success to significant Yeah, that's right, 364 00:16:10.919 --> 00:16:12.879 that's right, the book's halftime, that's right. 365 00:16:12.960 --> 00:16:16.039 Yeah, yeah, from success to significance. And a lot of 366 00:16:16.039 --> 00:16:21.240 people they know what success is, but then they just realize, geez, you. 367 00:16:21.200 --> 00:16:23.240 Know, what is it all for? You know, making a living. 368 00:16:23.320 --> 00:16:26.440 Sure, I'm eating and my kids are living indoors and 369 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:29.720 they're well clothed and provided for, but you know, I 370 00:16:29.759 --> 00:16:31.639 want to do something that really matters in the life 371 00:16:31.679 --> 00:16:33.840 of people. And so a lot of people they try 372 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:38.600 to find things, especially you know, midlife crisis type age, 373 00:16:38.600 --> 00:16:41.759 your retirement age, right where they say, I want to 374 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:45.919 do something significant. Now this isn't everybody, but I do 375 00:16:46.039 --> 00:16:48.360 have a feeling that there are a number of people 376 00:16:48.440 --> 00:16:51.519 even listening that are probably right at that crossroads that 377 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:54.840 think the same thing. And it's not that you haven't 378 00:16:54.879 --> 00:16:58.000 done important things, it's just that there are things that 379 00:16:58.039 --> 00:17:01.320 are more important right right, Like remember when Jesus was 380 00:17:01.360 --> 00:17:05.279 meeting with Mary and Martha, and and remember Martha was 381 00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:08.920 upset that Mary was sitting at the feet of Jesus. 382 00:17:09.240 --> 00:17:11.960 And Martha says, hey, I'm I'm the host and we're 383 00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:14.519 supposed to be host together and these are important things 384 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:18.480 and and uh, and Jesus essentially said, hey, Martha, what 385 00:17:18.519 --> 00:17:22.039 you're doing is important, but there is something more important, 386 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:25.920 right and then and this eternal significance right like she's 387 00:17:25.920 --> 00:17:28.680 sitting at the feet of Jesus. Mary has chosen what 388 00:17:28.839 --> 00:17:30.759 is more important and I'm not going to deny that 389 00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:34.079 from her. And so that's sort of what we're saying here. 390 00:17:34.119 --> 00:17:37.400 It's like, hey, they're fishermen. It's an important thing, but 391 00:17:37.480 --> 00:17:40.839 there's something more important. We're going to have you reverberate 392 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:43.799 your effects all throughout eternity. Right, You're going to do 393 00:17:43.880 --> 00:17:46.359 things that last beyond this world. 394 00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:47.160 Right. 395 00:17:47.359 --> 00:17:49.920 If you feed a kid of fish and he'll leave 396 00:17:49.960 --> 00:17:52.519 for a day, but that's right. You fish for a 397 00:17:52.559 --> 00:17:54.039 soul and they last for an eternity. 398 00:17:55.119 --> 00:17:58.680 So I think that that that conversation we were having 399 00:17:58.680 --> 00:18:04.079 about work, all work that is legal, right and moral. Yes, 400 00:18:04.279 --> 00:18:07.920 all work that is legal and moral has value, I think. Right, 401 00:18:09.640 --> 00:18:13.039