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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of The

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<v Speaker 1>Bible Guys. Here we are, we are right here, great here,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are excited once again because we believe that

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible is exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>It is it is. Yeah, so we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it in fun and practical ways.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go. You remember you remember when that one

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<v Speaker 1>guy said he thought for a very long time that

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<v Speaker 1>it was fun, fun in practical ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, impractical. Yeah, yeah, you thought we were talking about

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<v Speaker 2>fun and impractical ways about the Bible, which may speak

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<v Speaker 2>more to his view of how we do this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's really funny. Hey, I was just told yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>that by a friend, John Borgland, who is now attending

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<v Speaker 1>our new campus, the Shelby Campus or no, the Stony.

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<v Speaker 2>Rochester Hills in Rochester Hills. Oh it's in Rochester Hills.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was in Shelby. No, Shelby, I know

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<v Speaker 2>it's Stony Creek. Stony Creek High School is in Rochester Hills.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, but anyway, the Point Church, yeah, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, I was just informed by John that he

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<v Speaker 1>is now a daily listener of the Bible guests. Oh good, well,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome John. Yeah, and his wife Betsy.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and Betsy.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, just real quick trivia. When I

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<v Speaker 1>first moved to Michigan in two thousand and four, I

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<v Speaker 1>moved a month before my wife did, and I had

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<v Speaker 1>nowhere to stay, and I had they had to find

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere for me to stay. So I stayed in John's basement.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, and he had five kids. Wow at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>five boys. And I was in his basement for a month.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so then he had six boys.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, he had six boys. That's right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Anyway, Okay, Well, so here we go. It says

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<v Speaker 2>we haven't done this segment in a while, so we

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<v Speaker 2>need to make sure that we really the two of us,

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<v Speaker 2>really know each other. Well, okay, so I'm supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>ask you five questions yep, about myself and see if

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<v Speaker 2>you know the quick answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's kind of a catch twenty two because then

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<v Speaker 1>now you're searching for things that you think I won't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no, no, I'm I was searching for things I

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<v Speaker 2>thought you probably did know that I've said before.

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<v Speaker 1>So if I don't know them, then I'm really bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well thanks for that. Thanks for that intro.

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<v Speaker 2>These are things you probably don't know. Okay, okay, what

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<v Speaker 2>village was I born in?

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<v Speaker 1>Village? Well, it's it's it's.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, I'm sorry. I wasn't born in the village.

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<v Speaker 2>What village did I grew up in?

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry? Is it LaPier?

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's the town I was born in.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So there's a village. Wait a minute, I know this.

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<v Speaker 1>I know this. You said this before, because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's where it's it's the island where Napoleon was banished.

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<v Speaker 1>Elba.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, Elba, Yeah, Elba, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, so have begun. So, so explain that to me.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a village in a town.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's the city of LaPier in the county of LaPier.

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<v Speaker 2>But I lived eleven miles outside of the city of LaPier,

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<v Speaker 2>in the county of LaPier, in the village of Elba.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, gracious. Yeah, okay, all right, very good.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good one. Yeah, okay, So you know I

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<v Speaker 2>like to grill. Yes, yeah, it's one of my favorite things.

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<v Speaker 2>To do. What's my favorite kind of meat to grill?

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<v Speaker 1>Favor kind of meat?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, Okay, that's just tough. I'm not sure I

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<v Speaker 1>know this, but I am going to say steak.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmmm, pork.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say.

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<v Speaker 2>Loud, yeah, that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good one, because because barbecue is your favorite.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love it. I love it, yep, I love

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. Okay, so there's two. How many brothers

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<v Speaker 2>and sisters do I have?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, this is this is really I'll just say siblings.

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<v Speaker 2>How about siblings?

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<v Speaker 1>Siblings total? I know for a fact you have well

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<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't say fact, you have at least three, So

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I have ten siblings. Wait are these every step

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<v Speaker 2>mom's right, uh and my my biological fathers. That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I have ten step siblings.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know? I'm not I'm not sure I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>heard that before. Really yeah, yeah, no, I'm I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to register my brain. I just mentioned to

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<v Speaker 1>you that John Borgland had five kids. Yeah, right, so

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<v Speaker 1>five boys is like, wow, that's a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up in five boys right.

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<v Speaker 1>To hear the word ten.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and then I would be the I'm the eleventh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm you know, so.

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<v Speaker 1>I would make a total So to hear the word

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<v Speaker 1>eleven then.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it was kind of one of those yours

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<v Speaker 2>mine and ours right is kind of one of those

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<v Speaker 2>those deals.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that would register my brain, so I won't

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<v Speaker 1>forget that. Yeah, eleven, it's astounding. Yeah, it's truly astounding.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that crazy?

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, I should have known that four

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<v Speaker 1>years in. I should know that. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>how many bathrooms did you have?

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<v Speaker 2>One? I grew up in an eight hundred square foot

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<v Speaker 2>house with eleven. No, no, eleven, so that the most

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<v Speaker 2>we had, like three or four.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so it's constantly shifting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's always shifting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, all right. Wow. Bonnie's at home listening right now.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, she's like, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>And Liz is going come on, Chris, Yeah, yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>what's that?

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<v Speaker 1>I know these things?

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<v Speaker 2>That's three, So I need to give you one more,

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<v Speaker 2>don't I?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, okay, I think I said this one time maybe

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<v Speaker 2>on the podcast. I'm actually or in conversation, do you

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<v Speaker 2>know what my first car was.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I think you told me a story about like

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<v Speaker 1>driving home and breaking down at Christmas or something. Car.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no, but yeah, that's a that's a story that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>That was our on our honeymoon.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well that's what that's probably that was your car. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>try to think of whether or not you told me

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<v Speaker 1>think you have, but I'm going to take a guess.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to say that your first car was a Chavette.

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<v Speaker 2>It was not. No, I never got a Chavette. My

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<v Speaker 2>first car was a Buick Skylark. It was it was

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<v Speaker 2>like a tan Buicks car. I know. That's why. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why I said it. I remember that you.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned that was my first car. I would have

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't, so I didn't want it. So I had

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<v Speaker 2>I had a a moped and I was fine with that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was able to go to work do all those things,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And my sister wanted me to take uh

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<v Speaker 2>this Skylark and she was going to give it to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want it, so I don't want it. And

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<v Speaker 2>then she's like, if you come and get it today.

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I really don't. As my second oldest sister,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I just I don't want to don't want

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a mechanic. And she's like, no, it runs

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<v Speaker 2>really good. Just coming get it. And then she goes, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>i'll give you a full tank of guess and fifty bucks.

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<v Speaker 2>So my sister filled the tank of guests and gave

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, she want to get rid of it.

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<v Speaker 2>They were moving. They used to live in Troy and

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<v Speaker 2>they were moving. They sold their businesses and they were

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<v Speaker 2>moving to Ohio and she wanted me to take the car.

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<v Speaker 2>How were you at the time, Like seventeen? Wow, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's funny. Okay, well it's just I remember that you

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<v Speaker 2>had a Skylark. That's why I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was over that entire get Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I still feel loved by you, Chris, because you wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to know and that's what's important.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well that is true. That is true. So eleven

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<v Speaker 1>siblings total buick Skylark pork, which I by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Knew I have ten siblings. I'm I make That's why

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah. And then and then what was the other one?

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<v Speaker 2>Elba elba elba elba Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So my

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<v Speaker 2>old oldest sister and my youngest brother are over thirty

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<v Speaker 2>years apart.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye isn't that crazy. I'm twenty years older than my

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<v Speaker 1>That is super crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing. Okay, here we go, we're going to jump into this.

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<v Speaker 2>This is very exciting. This is there's so much intrigue

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<v Speaker 2>in the next two days, right, it's it's a very

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<v Speaker 2>big thing. Before these things happened, David had wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>begin building the temple for God. Remember yep, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>not reading this, and God.

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<v Speaker 1>Said no, no, because there's too much blood in your hands.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, you're a killer, that's right. And so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to have you build my temple, but I

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<v Speaker 2>will let your air build my temple. And so instead,

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<v Speaker 2>David collected all the stuff. He began to reach out

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<v Speaker 2>and get as much of the stuff as he could. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So he began to get the wood and the stone

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<v Speaker 2>and all these things. He began to set up the

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<v Speaker 2>priests and he began to set up the music and

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<v Speaker 2>began to set up a lot of the structure, even

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<v Speaker 2>though he wasn't allowed to build the temple. And then

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<v Speaker 2>he's coming kind of towards the end of his life.

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<v Speaker 2>He's an old man, and that's where we pick up

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<v Speaker 2>is he's about to die, and then we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>look into the succession. So we're going to read first

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<v Speaker 2>King's chapter one, and we're going to read through verse

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seven. It says King David was now very old,

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<v Speaker 2>and no matter how many blankets covered, and he cannot

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<v Speaker 2>keep you warm. So his advisors told him, let us

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<v Speaker 2>find a young virgin to wait on you and look

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<v Speaker 2>after you, my lord, and she will lie in your

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<v Speaker 2>arms and keep you warm. And so they searched throughout

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<v Speaker 2>the land of Israel for a beautiful girl, and they

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<v Speaker 2>The girl was very beautiful, and she looked after the

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<v Speaker 2>Ada Nija, whose mother was Hagath, began boasting, I will

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<v Speaker 2>make myself king. So he provided himself with chariots and

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<v Speaker 2>of him, just like Absolom did right yep. Now, his father,

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<v Speaker 2>King David, had never disciplined him at any time, even

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<v Speaker 2>by asking him, why are you doing that. Adamnijah had

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<v Speaker 2>Ada and Nijah took joe Abs son of Zuriah, and

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<v Speaker 2>help him become king. So Zadok the priest Benaiah son

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<v Speaker 2>Solomon's mother, and asked her, haven't you heard that Hageth's

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<v Speaker 2>son Adanija has made himself king and our Lord David

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<v Speaker 2>you make a vow and say to me your son

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<v Speaker 2>Solomon will surely be the next king and will sit

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<v Speaker 2>And while you are still talking with him, I will

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<v Speaker 2>come and confirm everything you've said. So Bathsheba went into

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<v Speaker 2>the king's bedroom and he was very old now, and

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<v Speaker 2>Abhishak was taking care of him. Bathsheba bowed down before

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<v Speaker 2>Solomon will surely be the next king and I will

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<v Speaker 2>sit on my throne. But instead Adanija has made himself king,

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<v Speaker 2>and my lord the King does not even know about it.

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<v Speaker 2>He has sacrificed many cattle and fat, and cabs and sheep,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's invited all the king's sons to attend the celebration.

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<v Speaker 2>He also invited Abiathar the priest and Joe Abb, the

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<v Speaker 2>commander of the army, but he did not invite your

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<v Speaker 2>servant Solomon. And now, my lord the king, all Israel

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<v Speaker 2>is waiting for you to announce who will become king

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<v Speaker 2>after you. If you do not act, my son Solomon

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<v Speaker 2>and I will be treated as criminals as soon as

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<v Speaker 2>my lord the king has died. While she was still

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<v Speaker 2>speaking with the king, Nathan the Prophet arrived. The king's

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<v Speaker 2>Nathan went in and bowed before the king with his

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<v Speaker 2>face to the ground. Nathan asked, my lord the King,

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<v Speaker 2>have you decided that Ada and Nija will be the

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<v Speaker 2>next king and that he will sit on your throne? Today?

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<v Speaker 2>He has sacrificed many cattle, fat and calves and sheep,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's invited all the king's sons attend the celebration.

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<v Speaker 2>He also invited the commanders of the army and Abiathar

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<v Speaker 2>the priest. They're feasting and drinking with him and shouting

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<v Speaker 2>long lean, long live King ad Inaijah. But he did

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<v Speaker 2>not invite me or Zadok the priest, or ben a

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<v Speaker 2>Ayah or your servant Solomon. Has my lord the king

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<v Speaker 2>really done this without letting any of his officials know

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<v Speaker 2>who would be the next king? And that's where we end,

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<v Speaker 2>because tomorrow we find out what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't don't don't. And well, first of all, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>long passage and a very good story.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a cliffhanger of a kind of a thing. And

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, this is very much like a Game

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<v Speaker 1>of Thrones, Yeah, the type thing happening, because you could

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<v Speaker 1>only imagine, you know, he's doing the same thing that

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<v Speaker 1>his brother did, right, just pretending to be king when

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<v Speaker 1>he's not king. Just hey, hire fifty bodyguards that run

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<v Speaker 1>in front of him, and then just go out and

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<v Speaker 1>just start announcing that you're king. And you could imagine

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day, all you really had to do

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<v Speaker 1>is persuade the people. As long as you persuade the

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<v Speaker 1>people who didn't know any better, then all of a sudden, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Still pretty much back in today's day, Isn't it just

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<v Speaker 2>persuade the people who don't know any better?

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<v Speaker 1>You are correct? I mean again, this is being recorded

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<v Speaker 1>before our election. And I mean, you know, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>you see commercials and you're like, unless you really know,

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<v Speaker 1>why wouldn't you believe that.

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<v Speaker 2>I literally had somebody come and ask me and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>who are you going to vote for? Because you and

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<v Speaker 2>I are shooting this before the election? Correct, And I said, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't ever tell anybody who I vote for. And

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<v Speaker 2>this person said, if you made me a list, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>just vote the way you vote. And I was like what,

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<v Speaker 2>and the lady said, I just don't even know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know any of this stuff. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>these people. I don't know anything about them. I've never

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<v Speaker 2>met ay these people. I don't know anything about this.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I wonder how many people just check boxes

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<v Speaker 2>on the things. Sure, I didn't know anything, they do

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<v Speaker 2>any research or nothing. They just you know. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's pretty easy to fool the people.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, did you ever see the movie with Michael Douglas

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<v Speaker 1>the American President? No? Well, an At Benning, Oh my goodness,

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<v Speaker 1>you would love this movie. I'm not even kidding. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's great. But anyway, during this speech, Michael J. Fox

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<v Speaker 1>back then, you know, he was still able to act

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<v Speaker 1>in things and anyway, Michael J. Fox was his advisor

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<v Speaker 1>to Michael Douglas, and he's and he'd get this big speech,

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<v Speaker 1>and what he was trying to say is he was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to say to the leader, to his president, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>please provide some leadership. And the comment that he used

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<v Speaker 1>is he said, mister president, and he said, people are

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<v Speaker 1>so desperate for leadership they will crawl through the desert

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<v Speaker 1>just for a glass of water. And he said they'll

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<v Speaker 1>drink the sand. And then Michael J. Fox looks back

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<v Speaker 1>and says, he says, hey, he is. What you don't

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<v Speaker 1>realize is people drink the sand not because they're thirsty,

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<v Speaker 1>but because they don't know the difference. Well, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was just a comment that is exactly like what we're

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<v Speaker 1>saying now. And he's and he's like, yeah, you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>I forget the guy's name in the movie, but he says,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right. He says they'll drink the sand, but not

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<v Speaker 1>because they're thirsty for real knowledge, they'll drink it just

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<v Speaker 1>because they have no idea what they're drinking. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was just it was just this comment that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sort of shines light and says, yeah, that's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the way it is. Well, that's I mean, think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>how many thousands of years ago did this take place?

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<v Speaker 1>And as much as as much as has changed, so

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<v Speaker 1>much has remained the same, and not much has changed.

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<v Speaker 2>You just have more technology. We're not any smarter.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's right, right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>So I will say this, just to clarify for some

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<v Speaker 2>of the surprise, I refused to give this person my

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<v Speaker 2>my voting list, right, I said, hey, go look at

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<v Speaker 2>some of this material. Right, as I said, here's here's

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<v Speaker 2>where you can find some answers. But I wouldn't I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't tell. So anyways, here you have David. He's so

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<v Speaker 2>old he can't even regulate his own body temperature. So

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<v Speaker 2>he has a nurse maid. He's not it's not an

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<v Speaker 2>intimacy thing, but he has a nurse maid who helps

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<v Speaker 2>take care of him Lewis And uh, well, no, her

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<v Speaker 2>name is Abas Shagg, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy's name in the movie, Michael J. Fox's character of Lewis.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you were saying Louis was the nurse maid

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<v Speaker 2>keeping him warm. Just ki, her name is Abshag. But sorry, yeah, so,

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<v Speaker 2>and then, uh so, basically that's letting you know he's

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<v Speaker 2>so old at this point, he can't regulate his own

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<v Speaker 2>body temperature. He's he's on his last legs. He's about

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<v Speaker 2>to die, this great warrior. And adam Ija rises up

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<v Speaker 2>man and he's like, man, I'm going to go get

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<v Speaker 2>this thing. I'm going to take it. He sees a

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<v Speaker 2>weak moment in David's life and he decides he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to do the same thing that Abslom did, but this

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<v Speaker 2>time he's not going to be able to fight because

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't have the strength to do it. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>interesting to me. There's a couple of quick things. One

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<v Speaker 2>ada Nija invites the people who agree with him, and

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<v Speaker 2>he does not invite any feedback from the people who don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And there's a lot of danger when you and

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<v Speaker 2>I both know, and most of our listeners know. It's

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<v Speaker 2>already been brought out on social media that they give

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<v Speaker 2>you more of what you want. The algorithms give you

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<v Speaker 2>more of what they know you are. They don't give

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<v Speaker 2>you hardly any opposing views. The opposing views they give

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<v Speaker 2>you are the ones you're going to get the maddest

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<v Speaker 2>about to drive you more towards your opinion already, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But they don't give. And so what's happening is we

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<v Speaker 2>start living if we're not careful. We only watch certain news,

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<v Speaker 2>start to live in this echo chamber that reaffirms every

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<v Speaker 2>what you find an at a night you're doing is

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<v Speaker 2>he's not listening to the Man of God, Nathan, right,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Alls he got was a soldier. He got a soldier

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<v Speaker 2>and a couple of priests to come along with him.

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<v Speaker 2>But he didn't get the most important people in the

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<v Speaker 2>in the in the kingdom because he didn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>hear what they wanted, what they were going to say. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he wanted affirmation for his opinion rather than to find

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<v Speaker 2>out what's the best thing to do or what's the truth. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a temptation for us as humans.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a person on staff on my previous staff

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<v Speaker 1>that used to say, if you're on staff with a

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<v Speaker 1>person who's exactly like you, then one of you is irrelevant.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the same thing in friendships.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the same thing in marriage, right and everything. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're exactly the same one of you's irrelevant.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And so we need people with opposing views in

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<v Speaker 1>our lives. We need people to challenge us. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what the Bible says. In fact, even in Corinthians,

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<v Speaker 1>says that we're different. Right, the hand needs the foot,

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<v Speaker 1>and the ear needs the eye, and we're all different

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<v Speaker 1>members with different functions with the same body. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>such as life, we're supposed to live our lives with

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<v Speaker 1>people around us that have different and opposing views than us.

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<v Speaker 1>Because when we want to do our selfish things and

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<v Speaker 1>don't want anybody to challenge us. Imagine if we were

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<v Speaker 1>only to surround ourselves with people who are just yes men,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, people who are not going to say

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<v Speaker 1>the right things or speak truth and love, Well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>just a terrible life because then we have no accountability,

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<v Speaker 1>we have no opportunity to grow, we don't become better people.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to have people around you that are going

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<v Speaker 1>to challenge you. And so that's what he's doing here.

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<v Speaker 1>He's eliminating the people who are going to check him

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<v Speaker 1>on this, right, the ones are going to say, man,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>So remember when we talked about it, so you can

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<v Speaker 2>differentiate between you know, a little bit of self centered narcissism,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, self inflicted echo chamber bubble that Abiathar decides

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<v Speaker 2>to live in as or at ny jump sorry, decides

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<v Speaker 2>to put himself in as opposed to if you look

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<v Speaker 2>back to David, when David was kind of at his peak,

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<v Speaker 2>he remember Abner had come gone against him with Absolom,

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<v Speaker 2>and David had the guts to bring Abner back in right,

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<v Speaker 2>remember that, and he protected Abner in that moment. So

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<v Speaker 2>you got Joe ab going what in the.

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<v Speaker 1>World, right?

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<v Speaker 2>But David wasn't afraid of different opinions or different people

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<v Speaker 2>coming from different places. And I think it's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that made David great later on. When you

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<v Speaker 2>look at some of the other kings, Solomon for instance,

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<v Speaker 2>being you know, the wisest king ever, Solomon had a

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<v Speaker 2>very diverse group of people that were advising him. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that there's some advantage on that only if you

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<v Speaker 2>are wise. Lots of opinions don't help if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have wisdom. And so you know, the Bible says that

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<v Speaker 2>if anybody lacks wisdom, you have to ask of God,

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<v Speaker 2>and he gives generously to everybody. Yeah, that will ask.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I think that we where we get God's

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<v Speaker 2>wisdom is from his word. So the Holy Spirit is

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<v Speaker 2>our teacher as Christians. His word tells us what God thinks,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it gives us his wisdom. And then Solomon also

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<v Speaker 2>tells us in the Book of Proverbs there's wisdom and

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<v Speaker 2>a multitude of counselors. And that doesn't mean having twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five opinions about one idea. I think it's having the

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<v Speaker 2>right counselors, a group of counselors that can count you

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<v Speaker 2>in all the counsel you in all the specific areas.

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<v Speaker 2>You need a really good financial advisor, you need a

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<v Speaker 2>really good marriage counselor, you need a really good parenting advisor.

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<v Speaker 2>You need a really good career advisor. You need you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for me, I need somebody who can do maintenance and

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<v Speaker 2>construction because I, you know, cut my fingers off when

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<v Speaker 2>I work on stuff. Right, there's wisdom when you have

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<v Speaker 2>a group of people around you that can advise you

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<v Speaker 2>in every area.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I just saw You're gonna laugh the Broadway

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<v Speaker 1>show Newsy's with Jeremy Jordan, and there's a line in

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<v Speaker 1>there where it says where the lady challenged him as

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<v Speaker 1>the leader and said, a good leader doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>always come up with the good ideas. He just have

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<v Speaker 1>to it has to be smart enough to recognize the

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<v Speaker 1>good idea when he hears it. Yeah, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>a principle that is like, first of all, it's incredibly insightful,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's also this exact same thing with the advice

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<v Speaker 1>that God gives us. What you're saying, godly counsel, surround

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<v Speaker 1>yourself with godly counsel. And then also if that advice

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<v Speaker 1>is based on God's word, right, so godly counsel has

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<v Speaker 1>advice based on God's word. Sometimes advice is practical, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's a human advice, it's human wisdom. But

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<v Speaker 1>the majority of the time, if we surround ourselves with

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<v Speaker 1>people with godly counsel, all truth comes from God. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what the Bible says, All truth comes from God. All

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<v Speaker 1>if it is true, it comes from God. So therefore

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<v Speaker 1>chances are it's like that guy. I'm quoting a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of movies now, but it's like that guy and my

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<v Speaker 1>big fact Greek wedding when he goes, give me a

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<v Speaker 1>word and I tell you where it comes from from

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<v Speaker 1>the Greek, right, it's all truth. I could you give

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<v Speaker 1>me a truth and I can tell you where that

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<v Speaker 1>comes from, because all truth is God's truth, is God's truth,

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<v Speaker 1>and so godly counsel can give you good advice, but

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<v Speaker 1>chances are it is connected to what God already says

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<v Speaker 1>is true, and it's it's the best piece of advice.

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<v Speaker 1>We are to recognize God's word as the final authority

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<v Speaker 1>in our lives. And if we're able as as wise

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<v Speaker 1>people to recognize, oh, that's a Godly truth, then we

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<v Speaker 1>need people around us to feed us that even when

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<v Speaker 1>we're not thinking that way.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good. So there's something to this where you can

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<v Speaker 2>see the weakness of David's son, and I think it

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<v Speaker 2>leads to his downfall. So hey, tomorrow, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>find out what happens. The rest of this super exciting,

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<v Speaker 2>So you don't want to miss tomorrow's episode.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, We'll see you then on the Baba Gus